Re: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-12 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
I Agree with you that it's probably not manual, there are too many sites 
really for anyone to do it manually.

IT can be done quite easily with java swing and though i am not a 
windows expert i am sure it can be done with visual basic as well. PHP 
was designed for different things.

Stuart wrote:

PHP Email List wrote:

Not sure that you wanted to know this or if this was mentioned 
already as
I'm just now going through my 13,000+ emails from this list, but this 
isn't
done dynamically. I'm betting that this Alexa company gets the urls 
that are
posted for viewing and then goes out to grab the site's pictures 
manually, I
tried 4 sites in my own town and none had pictures, but said Coming 
soon
where the pic was to be.


I highly doubt they do it manually. I would say it's more likely that 
the first request for a site gets it added to a queue to be grabbed at 
some later date and is then periodically updated unless no requests 
are made for it after a certain period. But I'm just making a slightly 
educated guess.



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RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-11 Thread PHP Email List
Not sure that you wanted to know this or if this was mentioned already as
I'm just now going through my 13,000+ emails from this list, but this isn't
done dynamically. I'm betting that this Alexa company gets the urls that are
posted for viewing and then goes out to grab the site's pictures manually, I
tried 4 sites in my own town and none had pictures, but said Coming soon
where the pic was to be.

roughridershockey.com
wolf-smart.com ---my site
techwiz.net --friends site
collinscu.org --my friends bank

So hope that helps in your pursuit of the unknown! Good Luck!


-Original Message-
From: Ryan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] picturing webpage


Hey,
if they are paying for this service of getting thumbnails.maybe I can
write a script that keeps on hitting their site with different random
URLs
Would be a good way to make them pay for spamming me anyway.

Whos with me?


Cheers,
-Ryan

*
Getting closer.. Did a little digging.. The script goes to alexa.com,
from what I see, alexa is doing the work then sending the pics out.

http://pages.alexa.com/prod_serv/xml_feed.html

Does this help with anyone explaining how this works?

Thanks,

Jake McHenry
Nittany Travel MIS Coordinator
http://www.nittanytravel.com
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RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-11 Thread Ryan A
Hey,
Thanks for that info, I checked a couple of other sites like
jumac.com,securecents.com etc there and it showed me the same results as you
got.
Cheers,
-Ryan

On 1/11/2004 8:34:01 PM, PHP Email List ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Not sure that you wanted to know this or if this was mentioned already as
 I'm just now going through my 13,000+ emails from this list, but this
isn't
 done dynamically.
 I'm betting that this Alexa company gets the urls that are
 posted for viewing and then goes out to grab the site's
 pictures manually, I
 tried 4 sites in my own town and none had pictures, but said
 Coming soon
 where the pic was to be.

 roughridershockey.com
 wolf-smart.com ---my site
 techwiz.net --friends site
 collinscu.org --my friends bank

 So hope that helps in your pursuit of the unknown! Good Luck!


 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP] picturing webpage


 Hey,
 if they are paying for this service of getting thumbnails.maybe I can
 write a script that keeps on hitting their site with different random
 URLs
 Would be a good way to make them pay for spamming me anyway.

 Whos with me?


 Cheers,
 -Ryan

 *
 Getting closer.. Did a little digging.. The script goes to ale

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Re: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-11 Thread Stuart
PHP Email List wrote:
Not sure that you wanted to know this or if this was mentioned already as
I'm just now going through my 13,000+ emails from this list, but this isn't
done dynamically. I'm betting that this Alexa company gets the urls that are
posted for viewing and then goes out to grab the site's pictures manually, I
tried 4 sites in my own town and none had pictures, but said Coming soon
where the pic was to be.
I highly doubt they do it manually. I would say it's more likely that 
the first request for a site gets it added to a queue to be grabbed at 
some later date and is then periodically updated unless no requests are 
made for it after a certain period. But I'm just making a slightly 
educated guess.

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Re: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-10 Thread Stuart
Mike Brum wrote:
It could be similar to how you can build a PDF. They could just take your
HTML and then use that to build a .JPG. I'm sure it's a very *expensive*
process (server  CPU -wise) though.
There's an addon for LiveStats (www.mediahouse.com) that does this so it 
can display thumbs of pages on your site in its reports. It runs on 
Windows and appears to load the page in and embedded IE instance then 
takes a screenshot.

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Re: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-09 Thread David T-G
Eli --

...and then Eli Hen said...
% 
% Hello All,

Hi!


% 
% I wanted to know if it is possible to picture a webpage via PHP.
% By picturing I mean that the program can generate a picture, a view, out

Hmmm...  An interesting concept.


% of the page URL given. (Like sometimes you have in search engines, that you
% see the site URL and besides is the picture of the first page of the site).

Can you provide an example?  I know I've never seen this feature, and I'm
not sure I follow what you mean.


% What technologies I use for that? Is it possible with PHP?

Dunno and dunno, but let's find out :-)


% 
% -thanks, Eli


HTH  HAND  Happy New Year

:-D
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RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-09 Thread Jake McHenry
 -Original Message-
 From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:29 AM
 To: PHP General list
 Cc: Eli Hen
 Subject: Re: [PHP] picturing webpage
 
 
 Eli --
 
 ...and then Eli Hen said...
 % 
 % Hello All,
 
 Hi!
 
 
 % 
 % I wanted to know if it is possible to picture a webpage via 
 PHP. % By picturing I mean that the program can generate a 
 picture, a view, out
 
 Hmmm...  An interesting concept.
 
 
 % of the page URL given. (Like sometimes you have in search 
 engines, that you % see the site URL and besides is the 
 picture of the first page of the site).
 
 Can you provide an example?  I know I've never seen this 
 feature, and I'm not sure I follow what you mean.
 
 
 % What technologies I use for that? Is it possible with PHP?
 
 Dunno and dunno, but let's find out :-)
 
 
 % 
 % -thanks, Eli
 
 
 HTH  HAND  Happy New Year
 
 :-D
 -- 
 David T-G  * There is too much animal courage in

 (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient 
 moral courage.
 (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -- Mary Baker Eddy, 
 Science and Health
 http://justpickone.org/davidtg/  Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf 
 Qrprapl Npg!
 
 




I've seen this many times, in spam emails sent to me, and in search
engines. It takes a dynamic screen shot of the url and shows you the
image. It's dynamic, I was playing with one I found, which I can't
now, but I made changes to the site and it showed up on that page. I
also thought it was very cool. I'll try to find the page, this was
about a year ago when I found it before.

Thanks,

Jake McHenry
Nittany Travel MIS Coordinator
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RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-09 Thread Ed Curtis

  Hi!
 
 
  %
  % I wanted to know if it is possible to picture a webpage via
  PHP. % By picturing I mean that the program can generate a
  picture, a view, out


 Don't know if this is exactly what you're looking for but this might be
what you're after. It was posted on Freshmeat just this week.

http://www.babysimon.co.uk/khtml2png/

Ed Curtis

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Re: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-09 Thread Ryan A
Hey,
These sons of bitches at top--sites have done this, I call them that coz I
regularly get spam from them.

Try this URL: http://top--sites.com/update.htm?d=spamcop.come=p

change spamcop to any other url...

Cheers,
-Ryan



On 1/9/2004 4:28:33 PM, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Eli --

 ...and then Eli Hen said...
 %
 % Hello All,

 Hi!


 %
 % I wanted to know if it is possible to picture a webpage via PHP.
 % By picturing I mean that the program can generate a picture, a view,
 out

 Hmmm...  An interesting concept.


 % of the page URL given. (Like sometimes you have in search engines, that
 you
 % see the site URL and besides is the picture of the first page of the
 site).

 Can you provide an example?  I know I've never seen this feature, and I'm
 not sure I follow what you mean.


 % What technologies I use for that? Is it possible with PHP?

 Dunno and dunno, but let's find out :-)


 %
 % -thanks, Eli


 HTH  HAND  Happy New Year

 :-D
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 (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage.
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RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-09 Thread Jake McHenry
 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:55 PM
 To: David T-G
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] picturing webpage
 
 
 Hey,
 These sons of bitches at top--sites have done this, I call 
 them that coz I regularly get spam from them.
 
 Try this URL: http://top--sites.com/update.htm?d=spamcop.come=p
 
 change spamcop to any other url...
 
 Cheers,
 -Ryan
 
 
 
 On 1/9/2004 4:28:33 PM, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
  Eli --
 
  ...and then Eli Hen said...
  %
  % Hello All,
 
  Hi!
 
 
  %
  % I wanted to know if it is possible to picture a webpage 
 via PHP. % 
  By picturing I mean that the program can generate a 
 picture, a view, 
  out
 
  Hmmm...  An interesting concept.
 
 
  % of the page URL given. (Like sometimes you have in search 
 engines, 
  that you % see the site URL and besides is the picture of the
first 
  page of the site).
 
  Can you provide an example?  I know I've never seen this 
 feature, and 
  I'm not sure I follow what you mean.
 
 
  % What technologies I use for that? Is it possible with PHP?
 
  Dunno and dunno, but let's find out :-)
 
 
  %
  % -thanks, Eli
 
 
  HTH  HAND  Happy New Year
 
  :-D
  --
  David T-G  * There is too much animal courage
in
  (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral 
  courage.
  (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science
and
 Health
  http://justpickone.org/davidtg/  Shpx gur 
 Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
 
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This is where I saw it! They're using a script, pic.cfm on a windows
box which somehow grabs a screenshot of the url.

Any clues how this is done?



Thanks,

Jake McHenry
Nittany Travel MIS Coordinator
http://www.nittanytravel.com

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RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-09 Thread Mike Brum
I can tell you this much, .cfm is ColdFusion. And CF is somewhat similar to
PHP in it's embedded-in style of scripting. 

It could be similar to how you can build a PDF. They could just take your
HTML and then use that to build a .JPG. I'm sure it's a very *expensive*
process (server  CPU -wise) though.

-M 

-Original Message-
From: Jake McHenry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:11 PM
To: 'Ryan A'
Cc: 'Php-general'
Subject: RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:55 PM
 To: David T-G
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] picturing webpage
 
 
 Hey,
 These sons of bitches at top--sites have done this, I call them that 
 coz I regularly get spam from them.
 
 Try this URL: http://top--sites.com/update.htm?d=spamcop.come=p
 
 change spamcop to any other url...
 
 Cheers,
 -Ryan
 
 
 
 On 1/9/2004 4:28:33 PM, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
  Eli --
 
  ...and then Eli Hen said...
  %
  % Hello All,
 
  Hi!
 
 
  %
  % I wanted to know if it is possible to picture a webpage
 via PHP. %
  By picturing I mean that the program can generate a
 picture, a view,
  out
 
  Hmmm...  An interesting concept.
 
 
  % of the page URL given. (Like sometimes you have in search
 engines,
  that you % see the site URL and besides is the picture of the
first 
  page of the site).
 
  Can you provide an example?  I know I've never seen this
 feature, and
  I'm not sure I follow what you mean.
 
 
  % What technologies I use for that? Is it possible with PHP?
 
  Dunno and dunno, but let's find out :-)
 
 
  %
  % -thanks, Eli
 
 
  HTH  HAND  Happy New Year
 
  :-D
  --
  David T-G  * There is too much animal courage
in
  (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral 
  courage.
  (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science
and
 Health
  http://justpickone.org/davidtg/  Shpx gur 
 Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
 
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 http://www.php.net/unsub.php
 





This is where I saw it! They're using a script, pic.cfm on a windows box
which somehow grabs a screenshot of the url.

Any clues how this is done?



Thanks,

Jake McHenry
Nittany Travel MIS Coordinator
http://www.nittanytravel.com

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RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-09 Thread Jake McHenry
 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:55 PM
 To: David T-G
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] picturing webpage
 
 
 Hey,
 These sons of bitches at top--sites have done this, I call 
 them that coz I regularly get spam from them.
 
 Try this URL: http://top--sites.com/update.htm?d=spamcop.come=p
 
 change spamcop to any other url...
 
 Cheers,
 -Ryan
 
 
 
 On 1/9/2004 4:28:33 PM, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
  Eli --
 
  ...and then Eli Hen said...
  %
  % Hello All,
 
  Hi!
 
 
  %
  % I wanted to know if it is possible to picture a webpage 
 via PHP. % 
  By picturing I mean that the program can generate a 
 picture, a view, 
  out
 
  Hmmm...  An interesting concept.
 
 
  % of the page URL given. (Like sometimes you have in search 
 engines, 
  that you % see the site URL and besides is the picture of the
first 
  page of the site).
 
  Can you provide an example?  I know I've never seen this 
 feature, and 
  I'm not sure I follow what you mean.
 
 
  % What technologies I use for that? Is it possible with PHP?
 
  Dunno and dunno, but let's find out :-)
 
 
  %
  % -thanks, Eli
 
 
  HTH  HAND  Happy New Year
 
  :-D
  --
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in
  (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral 
  courage.
  (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science
and
 Health
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 Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
 
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Getting closer.. Did a little digging.. The script goes to alexa.com,
from what I see, alexa is doing the work then sending the pics out.

http://pages.alexa.com/prod_serv/xml_feed.html

Does this help with anyone explaining how this works?

Thanks,

Jake McHenry
Nittany Travel MIS Coordinator
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RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-09 Thread Ryan A
Yep,
They might be spammers and lowlifes but they have a pretty nice program
running there.
I wrote to them twice but didnt get a replyI wonder if its because I
kind of  said a few
bad words directed at them, their mothers, fathers and family.???
Cheers,
-Ryan



On 1/9/2004 7:10:35 PM, Jake McHenry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Ryan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:55 PM
  To: David T-G
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [PHP] picturing webpage
 
 
  Hey,
  These sons of bitches at top--sites have done this, I call
  them that coz I regularly get spam from them.
 
  Try this URL: http://top--sites.com/update.htm?d=spamcop.come=p
 
  change spamcop to any other url...
 
  Cheers,
  -Ryan
 
 
 
  On 1/9/2004 4:28:33 PM, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 wrote:
   Eli --
  
   ...and then Eli Hen said...
   %
   % Hello All,
  
   Hi!
  
  
   %
   % I wanted to know if it is possible to picture a webpage
  via PHP. %
   By picturing I mean that the program can generate a
  picture, a view,
   out
  
   Hmmm...  An interesting concept.
  
  
   % of the page URL given. (Like sometimes you have in search
  engines,
   that you

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RE: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-09 Thread Ryan A
Hey,
if they are paying for this service of getting thumbnails.maybe I can
write a script that keeps on hitting their site with different random
URLs
Would be a good way to make them pay for spamming me anyway.

Whos with me?


Cheers,
-Ryan

*
Getting closer.. Did a little digging.. The script goes to alexa.com,
from what I see, alexa is doing the work then sending the pics out.

http://pages.alexa.com/prod_serv/xml_feed.html

Does this help with anyone explaining how this works?

Thanks,

Jake McHenry
Nittany Travel MIS Coordinator
http://www.nittanytravel.com
*

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Re: [PHP] picturing webpage

2004-01-07 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
Hi.
Tough one for php since php is a server side scripting langauge as you 
would have no doubt seen in the list newbie guide.
HTML rendering is typically a client side thing. Try java, c++ or if you 
are on on windows maybe even vb.



Eli Hen wrote:

Hello All,

I wanted to know if it is possible to picture a webpage via PHP.
By picturing I mean that the program can generate a picture, a view, out
of the page URL given. (Like sometimes you have in search engines, that you
see the site URL and besides is the picture of the first page of the site).
What technologies I use for that? Is it possible with PHP?
-thanks, Eli

 



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