Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-15 Thread Richard Lynch
On Sat, January 5, 2008 4:04 pm, Nisse Engström wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 01:08:13 -0500, tedd wrote: At 1:41 AM +0100 1/5/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:16:54 -0500, tedd wrote: At 10:33 AM +0100 1/4/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:39:36 -0500, tedd

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-09 Thread Nisse Engström
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:29:45 -0500, tedd wrote: At 12:03 PM +0100 1/7/08, Nisse Engström wrote: How does the following pages compare? The display should be identical: http://luden.se/test/t-1252.html http://luden.se/test/t-utf8.html Nisse: No, there is quite a difference depending upon

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-09 Thread tedd
At 1:19 PM +0100 1/9/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:29:45 -0500, tedd wrote: At 12:03 PM +0100 1/7/08, Nisse Engström wrote: How does the following pages compare? The display should be identical: http://luden.se/test/t-1252.html http://luden.se/test/t-utf8.html Nisse:

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-09 Thread Nisse Engström
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:30:59 -0500, tedd wrote: Yes, I said that there is no windows-1252 setting for Safari. It does not offer that named setting in it's list of text encodings available. There is no 1252 mentioned either -- however, that does not mean that it's not there under a

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-08 Thread Zoltán Németh
2008. 01. 7, hétfő keltezéssel 12.14-kor tedd ezt írta: At 4:36 PM +0100 1/7/08, Zoltán Németh wrote: 2008. 01. 7, hétf‘ keltezéssel 10.29-kor tedd ezt írta: however, on firefox with encoding auto-detection both page looks correctly and the same. greets Zoltán Németh Not that you are

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-07 Thread Nisse Engström
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:28:55 -0500, tedd wrote: At 11:04 PM +0100 1/5/08, Nisse Engström wrote: The page encoding is determined by the HTTP `Content-Type:´ header. Period. A meta element may provide hints to a browser if the HTTP header is missing (eg. when saving a page to disc). In the

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-07 Thread tedd
At 12:03 PM +0100 1/7/08, Nisse Engström wrote: How does the following pages compare? The display should be identical: http://luden.se/test/t-1252.html http://luden.se/test/t-utf8.html Nisse: No, there is quite a difference depending upon the text encoding used in my browser (Safari). For

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-07 Thread Zoltán Németh
2008. 01. 7, hétfő keltezéssel 10.29-kor tedd ezt írta: At 12:03 PM +0100 1/7/08, Nisse Engström wrote: How does the following pages compare? The display should be identical: http://luden.se/test/t-1252.html http://luden.se/test/t-utf8.html Nisse: No, there is quite a difference

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-07 Thread Robert Cummings
All of these look the same for me in Opera under Linux. Character sets are not a browser war issue, they're a character set/font issue. Just because a character set supports a character, doesn't mean the character font exists. Cheers, Rob. On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 10:29 -0500, tedd wrote: At

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-07 Thread tedd
At 4:36 PM +0100 1/7/08, Zoltán Németh wrote: 2008. 01. 7, hétf‘ keltezéssel 10.29-kor tedd ezt írta: however, on firefox with encoding auto-detection both page looks correctly and the same. greets Zoltán Németh Not that you are claiming otherwise, but FF will render the pages incorrectly if

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-07 Thread tedd
At 10:41 AM -0500 1/7/08, Robert Cummings wrote: Character setsare not a browser war issue, they're a character set/font issue. Just because a character set supports a character, doesn't mean the character font exists. Cheers, Rob. Rob: What I meant by browser wars was that there is a

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-06 Thread tedd
At 11:04 PM +0100 1/5/08, Nisse Engström wrote: The page encoding is determined by the HTTP `Content-Type:´ header. Period. A meta element may provide hints to a browser if the HTTP header is missing (eg. when saving a page to disc). In the presence of a `Content-Type:´ header, the meta

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-05 Thread Nisse Engström
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 01:08:13 -0500, tedd wrote: At 1:41 AM +0100 1/5/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:16:54 -0500, tedd wrote: At 10:33 AM +0100 1/4/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:39:36 -0500, tedd wrote: Nisse: Thanks again for your time and guidance.

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On Jan 5, 2008 5:04 PM, Nisse Engström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] The page encoding is determined by the HTTP `Content-Type:´ header. Period. [snip=again] Negative. If that were the case, what would be the sense in providing browser encoding translation? Have you noticed, for

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-04 Thread Nisse Engström
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:39:36 -0500, tedd wrote: At 4:24 PM +0100 1/3/08, Nisse =?utf-8?Q?Engstr=C3=B6m?= wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:36:56 -0500, tedd wrote: To find out, I did put the operation through FireFox and reversed the POST/GET operations to get a look at the string -- it is:

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-04 Thread tedd
At 10:33 AM +0100 1/4/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:39:36 -0500, tedd wrote: Nisse: I thank you for your most enlightened and informative reply. I cut/pasted your post into my list of things to remember. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-04 Thread Nisse Engström
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:16:54 -0500, tedd wrote: At 10:33 AM +0100 1/4/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:39:36 -0500, tedd wrote: Nisse: I thank you for your most enlightened and informative reply. I cut/pasted your post into my list of things to remember. A few more random

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-04 Thread tedd
At 1:41 AM +0100 1/5/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:16:54 -0500, tedd wrote: At 10:33 AM +0100 1/4/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:39:36 -0500, tedd wrote: Nisse: Thanks again for your time and guidance. As you said, it's my understanding that a web

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-03 Thread Nisse Engström
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:36:56 -0500, tedd wrote: To find out, I did put the operation through FireFox and reversed the POST/GET operations to get a look at the string -- it is: %C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0Z%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0 where Z is the value passed. Now, C2 (HEX) is a linefeed (194 DEC)

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-03 Thread tedd
At 4:24 PM +0100 1/3/08, Nisse =?utf-8?Q?Engstr=C3=B6m?= wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:36:56 -0500, tedd wrote: To find out, I did put the operation through FireFox and reversed the POST/GET operations to get a look at the string -- it is: %C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0Z%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0 where Z is

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-03 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, January 3, 2008 11:39 am, tedd wrote: At 4:24 PM +0100 1/3/08, Nisse Engström wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:36:56 -0500, tedd wrote: To find out, I did put the operation through FireFox and reversed the POST/GET operations to get a look at the string -- it is:

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-03 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, January 2, 2008 6:36 pm, tedd wrote: Now, why does a POST operation add in C2's? I'll leave that for another post. :-) I believe the POST operation adds nothing. The BROWSER interprets your nbsp; as whatever it finds most appropriate to slap into a button VALUE, given the charset and

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-03 Thread tedd
At 3:35 PM -0600 1/3/08, Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, January 2, 2008 6:36 pm, tedd wrote: Now, why does a POST operation add in C2's? I'll leave that for another post. :-) I believe the POST operation adds nothing. The BROWSER interprets your nbsp; as whatever it finds most appropriate

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-03 Thread tedd
At 3:33 PM -0600 1/3/08, Richard Lynch wrote: On Thu, January 3, 2008 11:39 am, tedd wrote: That's a valid point. Not only the encoding that's declared for the page via it's html DOCTYPE, but also what encoding was used to actually save that file on the server. This entire encoding

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-02 Thread tedd
At 6:42 PM -0500 1/2/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Jan 2, 2008 6:32 PM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, it produces: %C2%C2%C2%C2%C2A%C2%C2%C2 Thanks for trying :-) Why is it that things work perfectly for me until you test them? It's because I have a tester. You see, it's easy

Re: [PHP] First stupid post of the year. [SOLVED]

2008-01-02 Thread Daniel Brown
On Jan 2, 2008 7:36 PM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 6:42 PM -0500 1/2/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Jan 2, 2008 6:32 PM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, it produces: %C2%C2%C2%C2%C2A%C2%C2%C2 Thanks for trying :-) Why is it that things work perfectly for me until