Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-23 Thread Kim Steinhaug \(php list\)
You are referring to this page : 
http://www.opensourcecms.com/

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From: Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Erik Gyepes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice


 On Mon, August 22, 2005 3:48 am, Erik Gyepes wrote:
  Zachary Kessin wrote:
 
  I am about to start on a project that seems like it would be right
  for
  a CMS system. It will be about 80% rather boring stuff with about
  20%
  custom database work. I have looked at XOOPS and a few others.
  However
  I can not seem to find one rather important thing about XOOPS. I
  understand how to use a module that someone else wrote, but I have
  not
  found any documentation on how to build my own blocks or application
  components.
 
  I am not yet committed to XOOPS, so if there is different system
  that
  would be better that could work as well
 
 There is a pretty cool site out there that lets you kick the tires
 on a BUNCH of different PHP/MySQL CMS products/projects.
 
 opencms.org or something like that.
 
 I always have a tough time finding it with Google and whatnot, but
 it's there.
 
 Anyway, they basically installed a couple dozen CMS systems, and you
 can set yourself up with your own sandbox install on THEIR server with
 just a click of a button, then administer it and play with it, and
 then they wipe it out in about 2 hours.
 
 So you get a chance to play with it to see if you like each CMS, and
 you've got 2 hours to check it out -- Or more, since you can start
 over with a new sandbox.  They just don't want you to try to run your
 site through theirs.
 
 I doubt that it will actually let you write/upload arbitrary PHP for
 the missing 20%, but they MIGHT have some examples or user comments on
 their site on these issues, and at least you can play with the 80% to
 see if the features you need for that part are there.
 
 HTH
 
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Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-23 Thread Raz
 opencms.org or something like that.

It is http://www.opensourcecms.com/

Raz

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Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-23 Thread Richard Lynch
On Mon, August 22, 2005 3:48 am, Erik Gyepes wrote:
 Zachary Kessin wrote:

 I am about to start on a project that seems like it would be right
 for
 a CMS system. It will be about 80% rather boring stuff with about
 20%
 custom database work. I have looked at XOOPS and a few others.
 However
 I can not seem to find one rather important thing about XOOPS. I
 understand how to use a module that someone else wrote, but I have
 not
 found any documentation on how to build my own blocks or application
 components.

 I am not yet committed to XOOPS, so if there is different system
 that
 would be better that could work as well

There is a pretty cool site out there that lets you kick the tires
on a BUNCH of different PHP/MySQL CMS products/projects.

opencms.org or something like that.

I always have a tough time finding it with Google and whatnot, but
it's there.

Anyway, they basically installed a couple dozen CMS systems, and you
can set yourself up with your own sandbox install on THEIR server with
just a click of a button, then administer it and play with it, and
then they wipe it out in about 2 hours.

So you get a chance to play with it to see if you like each CMS, and
you've got 2 hours to check it out -- Or more, since you can start
over with a new sandbox.  They just don't want you to try to run your
site through theirs.

I doubt that it will actually let you write/upload arbitrary PHP for
the missing 20%, but they MIGHT have some examples or user comments on
their site on these issues, and at least you can play with the 80% to
see if the features you need for that part are there.

HTH

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Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-23 Thread Jay Paulson
Everyone has already told you about opensourcecms.org, which is a 
really good site to test things out.  However, about 6 months ago I had 
to do research for the same kind of thing.  As of now with the split of 
the Mambo dev team from the parent company Miro I think I would go with 
Dupral because who knows when Mambo or whatever the fork of Mambo by 
the dev team is going to back on it's feet again.  Even with that said 
I've been working with Mambo for about 6 months as well and I must say 
it's the easiest CMS that I have ever worked with.  The 
component/module coding is a no brainer and the documentation is pretty 
good (it was getting better but with the dev team gone who knows).  At 
any rate I would say check out Dupral, Mambo, and XOOPS.  Then decide 
what you need and which one has the most features that you need.  I 
choose Mambo for the fast development of customization of features, the 
huge community (that now seems split), and the vast number of 3rd party 
modules that have already been written. :)


On Aug 21, 2005, at 6:16 AM, Zachary Kessin wrote:

I am about to start on a project that seems like it would be right for 
a CMS system. It will be about 80% rather boring stuff with about 20% 
custom database work. I have looked at XOOPS and a few others. However 
I can not seem to find one rather important thing about XOOPS. I 
understand how to use a module that someone else wrote, but I have not 
found any documentation on how to build my own blocks or application 
components.


I am not yet committed to XOOPS, so if there is different system that 
would be better that could work as well


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Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-23 Thread Marcus Bointon

On 23 Aug 2005, at 14:05, Jay Paulson wrote:


I would say check out Dupral, Mambo, and XOOPS.


Drupal looks great, but whenever I've tried to get into it, nothing  
seems to work properly. Xoops is capable (I've used it on a couple of  
sites), but generally a complete mess internally. Both of them have  
massive, cryptic control panels and it's inordinately complicated to  
do simple things like put this bit of text at the top of the front  
page. Unless you want your site to look and work like everyone  
else's Nuke clone, I'd steer clear of these.


The majority of so-called content management systems actually fail  
dismally at managing content. I don't know why they even use the name.


For simple sites, Website Baker is great, especially if the intended  
admin wants little hassle. It's one of the few that seems to put a  
strong emphasis on usability over feature bloat.


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Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-22 Thread Erik Gyepes

Zachary Kessin wrote:

I am about to start on a project that seems like it would be right for 
a CMS system. It will be about 80% rather boring stuff with about 20% 
custom database work. I have looked at XOOPS and a few others. However 
I can not seem to find one rather important thing about XOOPS. I 
understand how to use a module that someone else wrote, but I have not 
found any documentation on how to build my own blocks or application 
components.


I am not yet committed to XOOPS, so if there is different system that 
would be better that could work as well


--Zach


Nucleus seems to be good CMS too, see the: http://nucleuscms.org/.

Erik

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Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-22 Thread Erik Gyepes

Zachary Kessin wrote:

I am about to start on a project that seems like it would be right for 
a CMS system. It will be about 80% rather boring stuff with about 20% 
custom database work. I have looked at XOOPS and a few others. However 
I can not seem to find one rather important thing about XOOPS. I 
understand how to use a module that someone else wrote, but I have not 
found any documentation on how to build my own blocks or application 
components.


I am not yet committed to XOOPS, so if there is different system that 
would be better that could work as well


--Zach


Nucleus seems to be good CMS too, see the: http://nucleuscms.org/.

Erik

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Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-22 Thread Shafiq Rehman
Hey Michael, 

Visit the site for excellent open source CMS http://www.ez.no

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[PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-21 Thread Zachary Kessin
I am about to start on a project that seems like it would be right for a 
CMS system. It will be about 80% rather boring stuff with about 20% 
custom database work. I have looked at XOOPS and a few others. However I 
can not seem to find one rather important thing about XOOPS. I 
understand how to use a module that someone else wrote, but I have not 
found any documentation on how to build my own blocks or application 
components.


I am not yet committed to XOOPS, so if there is different system that 
would be better that could work as well


--Zach

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Re: [PHP] Looking for CMS advice

2005-08-21 Thread Esteamedpw
I would check out Mambo:  _http://mamboserver.com_ (http://mamboserver.com)  
 
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