Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts

2007-08-13 Thread tedd

At 8:52 PM -0500 8/12/07, Jay Blanchard wrote:

Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)

We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
that seems to be missing from the group...a best practices book. We
all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at
this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of
the best.

I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am
talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or
the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with
databases.

If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing
complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.)
Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive
your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me.

Thanks

Jay


Jay:

That might be a good subject, but I find that best practices is a 
moving target. By the time you finish the book, some of your best 
practices will be old practices.


Cheers,

tedd

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Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts

2007-08-13 Thread tedd

At 8:06 PM -0700 8/12/07, Janet Valade wrote:

Jay Blanchard wrote:


If there was a best practices book would you buy it?


I would buy it. But, I buy tons of books.

Janet



Same here.

In college, if I didn't have time to read something I Xeroxed it -- 
now I just buy the book. :-)


Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts

2007-08-13 Thread Richard Lynch
On Sun, August 12, 2007 8:52 pm, Jay Blanchard wrote:
 Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)

 We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
 that seems to be missing from the group...a best practices book. We
 all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems
 at
 this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best
 of
 the best.

 I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I
 am
 talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations
 or
 the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP
 with
 databases.

 If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing
 complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.)
 Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to
 derive
 your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me.

I personally would not buy it.

But I suppose it might sell as well as any of the other zillion PHP
books.

But you'd have a heck of a time getting even a large minority of PHP
developers to agree on best practices for an lot of stuff...

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[PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts

2007-08-12 Thread Jay Blanchard
Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)

We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
that seems to be missing from the group...a best practices book. We
all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at
this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of
the best.

I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am
talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or
the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with
databases.

If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing
complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.)
Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive
your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me.

Thanks

Jay

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Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts

2007-08-12 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 20:52 -0500, Jay Blanchard wrote:
 Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)
 
 We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
 that seems to be missing from the group...a best practices book. We
 all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at
 this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of
 the best.
 
 I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am
 talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or
 the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with
 databases.
 
 If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing
 complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.)
 Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive
 your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me.

I don't buy books on tech. I search the web and read what people post
*shrug*. All the knowledge is out there for free. I'm not the type to
need it all bundled up fancy schmancy.

Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts

2007-08-12 Thread Larry Garfield
The vast majority of my work these days is done using the Drupal CMS, which 
has its own coding standards and best practices and conventions that are 
(IMO) pretty darned good.  I've adopted most of it in my non-Drupal work, 
too, for simplicity.  

So um, maybe, but I probably wouldn't jump at it as I feel I'm already 
using good enough practices.

On Sunday 12 August 2007, Jay Blanchard wrote:
 Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)

 We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
 that seems to be missing from the group...a best practices book. We
 all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at
 this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of
 the best.

 I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am
 talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or
 the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with
 databases.

 If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing
 complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.)
 Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive
 your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me.

 Thanks

 Jay


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Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts

2007-08-12 Thread Janet Valade

Jay Blanchard wrote:


Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)

We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
that seems to be missing from the group...a best practices book. We
all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at
this stage in the life of PHP that there would be a guide to the best of
the best.

I am not talking about the holy wars here (like bracket placement) I am
talking about things like testing variable in conditional situations or
the proper use of constructors or ways to leverage the power of PHP with
databases.

If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing
complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.)
Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive
your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me.

Thanks

Jay



I would buy it. But, I buy tons of books.

Janet


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Re: [PHP] PHP Books - A poll of sorts

2007-08-12 Thread Paul Scott

On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 20:52 -0500, Jay Blanchard wrote:
 If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing
 complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.)
 Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive
 your own set of practices? Thanks for indulging me.

The team that delivers the Chisimba framework (http://avoir.uwc.ac.za),
has also developed our own best practices, as well as documentation
standards and coding standards. These standards are pretty much in line
with most of the large projects out there (I have never needed to look
at Drupal, so I cannot comment there), but I am willing to bet that
there isn't much of a difference.

We publish our coding and doc standards, as well as a bunch of HOWTO's
etc to get started, under a CC BY-SA license, so that if people would
like to adopt that, or build on it, they are free to do so.

I would not mind seeing at least *some* homogeneity in PHP code, across
projects, but I still don't think that *all* projects need stick to the
same standards - this will ultimately stifle creativity, which is what
PHP is all about anyway.

Just my R0.02

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