[PHP] Re: Dan Brown
'Twas brillig, and Daniel Brown at 03/08/09 17:29 did gyre and gimble: my basement office flooded I think everyone on this list has been inconsiderate to the clearly massive tragedy of your flooded basement. May I be the first to pass on my condolences for all the dead computers that are now bobbing around downstairs. I hope they've gone to Silicon Heaven. Sad news indeed. Col PS Oh yeah and congrats on the whole baby thing too although it's hardly the most poignant story :p -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Congratulations Dan! On a side note, next time you go down the glorious path to having a munchkin, go and get a puppy. Between the labor pains and the morning sickness, the wife can break you in on getting up at night with the puppy. :) Glad to hear that the family is doing well. Always a good thing. Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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At 10:34 PM -0400 8/3/09, Sam Stelfox wrote: tedd wrote: Everything is backed up at least three fold. I am considering online backup and waiting for the cost to go down. You should add paper backups to that list! http://ollydbg.de/Paperbak/ Sam Stelfox Sam: That's interesting. I wasn't aware that paper could be used in such a fashion but I can't help but think that the cost of the paper would exceed the cost of optical disk storage for the same data. And paper is more sensitive to environmental exposure than DVD's. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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At 6:13 PM -0400 8/3/09, Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:54:05PM -0400, tedd wrote: snip Everything is backed up at least three fold. I am considering online backup and waiting for the cost to go down. Tried Carbonite.com? I think they're like US$55 / year. Work on Mac and PC, but I doubt Linux, and I don't know about their space limits. Paul That's really neat -- too bad my Mac is not Intel. The writing is on the wall -- the dark-side is calling and resistance is futile. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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tedd wrote: Sam: That's interesting. I wasn't aware that paper could be used in such a fashion but I can't help but think that the cost of the paper would exceed the cost of optical disk storage for the same data. And paper is more sensitive to environmental exposure than DVD's. Cheers, tedd I don't know how successful it would be for using real backups by I personally use it to backup my private keys. It has held up to a coffee ring on the page so I imagine if it's protected by a metal filing cabinet it would be safe enough. Course if there was a fire... Sam Stelfox -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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ALL: It's far easier to drop a line to the mailing lists and BCC a few others than to write back to many individually. Thanks for the concern and well-wishes from the many who wrote to me during the last 10 days. It's very, very kind of you, and much appreciated. I'm honored that you would think of me at all outside of the context of the various mailing lists. For those of you who do not know, on Sunday my wife, Debi, and I went into the hospital because she was nine months pregnant, but had not felt the baby move for several hours. She was attached to a monitor, and while everything seemed fine at first, that quickly changed. The baby's heart rate - which should be between 120 and 160 beats per minute - dropped as low as 49, which is very, very, very bad. It happened a couple of times, and during an emergency ultrasound scan, the baby - on the screen - stuck her tongue right out at us, then proceeded to bring her fist to her mouth to suck. And inside her little fist was her umbilical cord --- she was literally squeezing it so tight that she was cutting off the blood and oxygen flow to herself. Because of this, they decided to induce labor in Debi. After several hours of labor with no pain relief, the baby's condition was continuing to deteriorate, so at approximately 02:30 EDT, the doctor made the decision to perform a Caesarean section (surgical delivery) of the baby. Things were rushed along, and I walked into the delivery room just in time to see a purple leg sticking out of a hole in Debi's belly. As I walked past, they lifted the baby out, cut the cord, and rushed her past me to get her to breathe. Her skin was purple, as is normal, but her eyes were wide open as she went past. At about 02:46 EDT, she cried for the first time. So Haileigh Grace Brown, born at 02:45 EDT Monday morning, 27 July, 2009, weighed in at 6lbs 4oz and was 17.5 inches long. She has blue(-ish) eyes and a full head of hair. There have been several other life-threatening complications in both her and Debi, including the baby being completely unable to breathe due to fluid in her lungs, requiring emergency response and suction, but as of today, she is doing much better. Because of all of this, and some complications in the days just before her birth, I've been rather silent, which is what apparently gained the attention of the thirty-four (yes, I counted! ;-P) people who sent me emails privately to see if I was alright. Yes, I am, and thankfully, so is my little family. Both Debi and Haileigh are doing well now. Haileigh doesn't sleep through the night yet, of course, but she doesn't yet sleep through the day, either. She remains awake, wide-eyed, and very alert and aware of her surroundings --- which is great, except for the fact that it means that, during the day, we need to pay more attention to her, and at night, I'm awake the whole time with her. In the hospital (we had her in our room) and here at home, I've been allowing Debi to sleep through the night in bed, to heal from the surgery, and I stay awake with the baby. I sleep between one and four hours per day, at maximum. I can't so nobody warned me about this! ;-P On a different note, thanks to all of the rain we've had here in the northeast US this year, my basement office flooded while I was away in the hospital, tending to more important issues. As a result, both my development and backup machines were destroyed, including all of my undelivered work, research projects, et cetera. So in addition to no sleep, I get to enjoy no peace as I work to deliver what I can (behind schedule) and distribute refunds to clients. Having a baby is difficult enough; having a baby and a career is more difficult; having a baby and working as a freelancer or owner/operator of a company is the epitome of masochism --- I'm learning that quite thoroughly through experience. Still, all in all, everything is fine. It'll be tight and stressful until things are caught back up work-wise, but I'm just fine with that. Because from the moment my little girl filled those lungs and executed her first Hello, World! application at quarter-to-three in the morning last Monday, there's been a completely new Dan Brown. Thanks for everyone's checking in and well-wishing, once again, and I'll get back to everyone personally as soon as I can. In the meantime, I'll be back here at my desk, so zip me an email if you need me. It may take a bit longer for me to reply until I get caught up, but I will. For those of you with no interest in this, please exercise your email-delete capabilities at this time. Thanks! -- /Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/ Check out our great hosting and dedicated server deals at http://twitter.com/pilotpig -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Oh wow, I didn't know your wife had gone into labour or anything :( Sorry to hear of the stress and very glad to hear both are alive and doing well. Congratulations! Cheers, Rob. Daniel Brown wrote: ALL: It's far easier to drop a line to the mailing lists and BCC a few others than to write back to many individually. Thanks for the concern and well-wishes from the many who wrote to me during the last 10 days. It's very, very kind of you, and much appreciated. I'm honored that you would think of me at all outside of the context of the various mailing lists. For those of you who do not know, on Sunday my wife, Debi, and I went into the hospital because she was nine months pregnant, but had not felt the baby move for several hours. She was attached to a monitor, and while everything seemed fine at first, that quickly changed. The baby's heart rate - which should be between 120 and 160 beats per minute - dropped as low as 49, which is very, very, very bad. It happened a couple of times, and during an emergency ultrasound scan, the baby - on the screen - stuck her tongue right out at us, then proceeded to bring her fist to her mouth to suck. And inside her little fist was her umbilical cord --- she was literally squeezing it so tight that she was cutting off the blood and oxygen flow to herself. Because of this, they decided to induce labor in Debi. After several hours of labor with no pain relief, the baby's condition was continuing to deteriorate, so at approximately 02:30 EDT, the doctor made the decision to perform a Caesarean section (surgical delivery) of the baby. Things were rushed along, and I walked into the delivery room just in time to see a purple leg sticking out of a hole in Debi's belly. As I walked past, they lifted the baby out, cut the cord, and rushed her past me to get her to breathe. Her skin was purple, as is normal, but her eyes were wide open as she went past. At about 02:46 EDT, she cried for the first time. So Haileigh Grace Brown, born at 02:45 EDT Monday morning, 27 July, 2009, weighed in at 6lbs 4oz and was 17.5 inches long. She has blue(-ish) eyes and a full head of hair. There have been several other life-threatening complications in both her and Debi, including the baby being completely unable to breathe due to fluid in her lungs, requiring emergency response and suction, but as of today, she is doing much better. Because of all of this, and some complications in the days just before her birth, I've been rather silent, which is what apparently gained the attention of the thirty-four (yes, I counted! ;-P) people who sent me emails privately to see if I was alright. Yes, I am, and thankfully, so is my little family. Both Debi and Haileigh are doing well now. Haileigh doesn't sleep through the night yet, of course, but she doesn't yet sleep through the day, either. She remains awake, wide-eyed, and very alert and aware of her surroundings --- which is great, except for the fact that it means that, during the day, we need to pay more attention to her, and at night, I'm awake the whole time with her. In the hospital (we had her in our room) and here at home, I've been allowing Debi to sleep through the night in bed, to heal from the surgery, and I stay awake with the baby. I sleep between one and four hours per day, at maximum. I can't so nobody warned me about this! ;-P On a different note, thanks to all of the rain we've had here in the northeast US this year, my basement office flooded while I was away in the hospital, tending to more important issues. As a result, both my development and backup machines were destroyed, including all of my undelivered work, research projects, et cetera. So in addition to no sleep, I get to enjoy no peace as I work to deliver what I can (behind schedule) and distribute refunds to clients. Having a baby is difficult enough; having a baby and a career is more difficult; having a baby and working as a freelancer or owner/operator of a company is the epitome of masochism --- I'm learning that quite thoroughly through experience. Still, all in all, everything is fine. It'll be tight and stressful until things are caught back up work-wise, but I'm just fine with that. Because from the moment my little girl filled those lungs and executed her first Hello, World! application at quarter-to-three in the morning last Monday, there's been a completely new Dan Brown. Thanks for everyone's checking in and well-wishing, once again, and I'll get back to everyone personally as soon as I can. In the meantime, I'll be back here at my desk, so zip me an email if you need me. It may take a bit longer for me to reply until I get caught up, but I will. For those of you with no interest in this, please exercise your email-delete capabilities at this time. Thanks! -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List
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Congratulations to you and your wife and best wishes for the future. That's quite a few issues to have to deal with at once and I'm happy to see you emerge from the other side more or less ok. -Stuart 2009/8/3 Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net: ALL: It's far easier to drop a line to the mailing lists and BCC a few others than to write back to many individually. Thanks for the concern and well-wishes from the many who wrote to me during the last 10 days. It's very, very kind of you, and much appreciated. I'm honored that you would think of me at all outside of the context of the various mailing lists. For those of you who do not know, on Sunday my wife, Debi, and I went into the hospital because she was nine months pregnant, but had not felt the baby move for several hours. She was attached to a monitor, and while everything seemed fine at first, that quickly changed. The baby's heart rate - which should be between 120 and 160 beats per minute - dropped as low as 49, which is very, very, very bad. It happened a couple of times, and during an emergency ultrasound scan, the baby - on the screen - stuck her tongue right out at us, then proceeded to bring her fist to her mouth to suck. And inside her little fist was her umbilical cord --- she was literally squeezing it so tight that she was cutting off the blood and oxygen flow to herself. Because of this, they decided to induce labor in Debi. After several hours of labor with no pain relief, the baby's condition was continuing to deteriorate, so at approximately 02:30 EDT, the doctor made the decision to perform a Caesarean section (surgical delivery) of the baby. Things were rushed along, and I walked into the delivery room just in time to see a purple leg sticking out of a hole in Debi's belly. As I walked past, they lifted the baby out, cut the cord, and rushed her past me to get her to breathe. Her skin was purple, as is normal, but her eyes were wide open as she went past. At about 02:46 EDT, she cried for the first time. So Haileigh Grace Brown, born at 02:45 EDT Monday morning, 27 July, 2009, weighed in at 6lbs 4oz and was 17.5 inches long. She has blue(-ish) eyes and a full head of hair. There have been several other life-threatening complications in both her and Debi, including the baby being completely unable to breathe due to fluid in her lungs, requiring emergency response and suction, but as of today, she is doing much better. Because of all of this, and some complications in the days just before her birth, I've been rather silent, which is what apparently gained the attention of the thirty-four (yes, I counted! ;-P) people who sent me emails privately to see if I was alright. Yes, I am, and thankfully, so is my little family. Both Debi and Haileigh are doing well now. Haileigh doesn't sleep through the night yet, of course, but she doesn't yet sleep through the day, either. She remains awake, wide-eyed, and very alert and aware of her surroundings --- which is great, except for the fact that it means that, during the day, we need to pay more attention to her, and at night, I'm awake the whole time with her. In the hospital (we had her in our room) and here at home, I've been allowing Debi to sleep through the night in bed, to heal from the surgery, and I stay awake with the baby. I sleep between one and four hours per day, at maximum. I can't so nobody warned me about this! ;-P On a different note, thanks to all of the rain we've had here in the northeast US this year, my basement office flooded while I was away in the hospital, tending to more important issues. As a result, both my development and backup machines were destroyed, including all of my undelivered work, research projects, et cetera. So in addition to no sleep, I get to enjoy no peace as I work to deliver what I can (behind schedule) and distribute refunds to clients. Having a baby is difficult enough; having a baby and a career is more difficult; having a baby and working as a freelancer or owner/operator of a company is the epitome of masochism --- I'm learning that quite thoroughly through experience. Still, all in all, everything is fine. It'll be tight and stressful until things are caught back up work-wise, but I'm just fine with that. Because from the moment my little girl filled those lungs and executed her first Hello, World! application at quarter-to-three in the morning last Monday, there's been a completely new Dan Brown. Thanks for everyone's checking in and well-wishing, once again, and I'll get back to everyone personally as soon as I can. In the meantime, I'll be back here at my desk, so zip me an email if you need me. It may take a bit longer for me to reply until I get caught up, but I will. For those of you with no interest in this, please exercise your email-delete capabilities at this time. Thanks! -- /Daniel P.
Re: [PHP] Re: Dan Brown
Daniel Brown wrote: (behind schedule) and distribute refunds to clients. Having a baby is difficult enough; having a baby and a career is more difficult; having a baby and working as a freelancer or owner/operator of a company is the epitome of masochism --- I'm learning that quite thoroughly through experience. Congratulations! Welcome to the club :) We just had a very similar (we don't have a basement) experience with baby #2, so I feel you! It gets better, sleep is for sissies anyway :) -- -- Paul http://www.paulscott.za.net/ http://twitter.com/paulscott56 http://avoir.uwc.ac.za -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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So Haileigh Grace Brown, born at 02:45 EDT Monday morning, 27 July, 2009, weighed in at 6lbs 4oz and was 17.5 inches long. Oh, wow, congrats! My best wishes to Haileigh and her parents! I: (a) approve the choice of middle name, since that's what we called our daughter ;) (b) sympathise, as Grace was also born by emergency Caesarian (although not in the middle of the night!), weighing 2.49kg (5lb 8oz), and spent her first 48 hours in the premature babies unit and the next 10 days with her mother in the regular maternity ward until she started feeding properly. Like my Grace, who is now nearly 10 years old, I hope Haileigh overcomes her shaky start to grow up healthy, happy, charming and beautiful. Cheers! Mike -- Mike Ford, Electronic Information Developer, Libraries and Learning Innovation, Leeds Metropolitan University, C507, Civic Quarter Campus, Woodhouse Lane, LEEDS, LS1 3HE, United Kingdom Email: m.f...@leedsmet.ac.uk Tel: +44 113 812 4730 To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Dan Brown
Daniel: As I previously said privately -- congratulations. Kids are wonderful (until they reach teenage years) At 12:29 PM -0400 8/3/09, Daniel Brown wrote: On a different note, thanks to all of the rain we've had here in the northeast US this year, my basement office flooded while I was away in the hospital, tending to more important issues. As a result, both my development and backup machines were destroyed, including all of my undelivered work, research projects, et cetera. I had that happen a few years ago. I had/have a $20k insurance policy on my office computers and data. However, I was very surprised to find that it didn't cover flooding. Since then I keep a HD backup of everything in a waterproof safe inside a larger fireproof safe located in my garage. There's nothing there but data. I also keep another HD backup in another waterproof/fireproof safe hidden in my office and yet another dedicated HD backup in my computer to backup my development HD. I also have DVD backups for every year and have those stored at various locations. Everything is backed up at least three fold. I am considering online backup and waiting for the cost to go down. So, the most I will ever lose is the work I did today -- unless I lose my house, garage, and my kids houses -- and if that happens, I have larger problems than data loss. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hi, ... As said over IM, best wishes. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 graphing: RGraph - www.rgraph.net (updated 25th July) Lots of PHP and Javascript code - http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 13:54, teddtedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: I had that happen a few years ago. I had/have a $20k insurance policy on my office computers and data. However, I was very surprised to find that it didn't cover flooding. Since then I keep a HD backup of everything in a waterproof safe inside a larger fireproof safe located in my garage. There's nothing there but data. We had just moved my office from the second floor of our house to the basement, which has never had a drop of water in it in the two-plus years we've been here. My office was converted to a nursery for Haileigh. I do have things backed up elsewhere, including multiple redundant off-site backups but work I'd done in the last couple of weeks was only backed up locally, and despite the systems being raised above the floor in typical datacenter fashion, the water found its way to one system and waterlogged it, and hit the power strip of the backup and fried the entire unit. I may be able to recover some - perhaps even most - of the data forensically, but the time to do so is neither cost-effective nor prudent. And, as in your situation, I have about $65k in renter's insurance for my computer systems alone, but it does not cover flooding either. I'd be better to file a false claim that it was stolen, or that I accidentally dropped it down the stairs, but insurance fraud wasn't on my to-do list this week. ;-P All in all, the equipment I lost amounts to less than $3,000 --- and if I can reuse the parts from some of the stuff as I believe I can, it'll be limited to a motherboard, some various components, and three hard drives. So the loss of data and work is a pain in the butt, and is semi-catastrophic, but could've been worse. I'm nearly done making my adjustments to the basement office and network now to avoid having it recur. I should've taken the precautions despite the lack of water we've had, but in all honesty, there were other things we were trying to rush along, and this went by the wayside. Once again, live and learn. Your phrase about learning something new every day is applicable here. ;-P -- /Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/ Check out our great hosting and dedicated server deals at http://twitter.com/pilotpig -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 12:29 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: ALL: It's far easier to drop a line to the mailing lists and BCC a few others than to write back to many individually. Thanks for the concern and well-wishes from the many who wrote to me during the last 10 days. It's very, very kind of you, and much appreciated. I'm honored that you would think of me at all outside of the context of the various mailing lists. For those of you who do not know, on Sunday my wife, Debi, and I went into the hospital because she was nine months pregnant, but had not felt the baby move for several hours. She was attached to a monitor, and while everything seemed fine at first, that quickly changed. The baby's heart rate - which should be between 120 and 160 beats per minute - dropped as low as 49, which is very, very, very bad. It happened a couple of times, and during an emergency ultrasound scan, the baby - on the screen - stuck her tongue right out at us, then proceeded to bring her fist to her mouth to suck. And inside her little fist was her umbilical cord --- she was literally squeezing it so tight that she was cutting off the blood and oxygen flow to herself. Because of this, they decided to induce labor in Debi. After several hours of labor with no pain relief, the baby's condition was continuing to deteriorate, so at approximately 02:30 EDT, the doctor made the decision to perform a Caesarean section (surgical delivery) of the baby. Things were rushed along, and I walked into the delivery room just in time to see a purple leg sticking out of a hole in Debi's belly. As I walked past, they lifted the baby out, cut the cord, and rushed her past me to get her to breathe. Her skin was purple, as is normal, but her eyes were wide open as she went past. At about 02:46 EDT, she cried for the first time. So Haileigh Grace Brown, born at 02:45 EDT Monday morning, 27 July, 2009, weighed in at 6lbs 4oz and was 17.5 inches long. She has blue(-ish) eyes and a full head of hair. There have been several other life-threatening complications in both her and Debi, including the baby being completely unable to breathe due to fluid in her lungs, requiring emergency response and suction, but as of today, she is doing much better. Because of all of this, and some complications in the days just before her birth, I've been rather silent, which is what apparently gained the attention of the thirty-four (yes, I counted! ;-P) people who sent me emails privately to see if I was alright. Yes, I am, and thankfully, so is my little family. Both Debi and Haileigh are doing well now. Haileigh doesn't sleep through the night yet, of course, but she doesn't yet sleep through the day, either. She remains awake, wide-eyed, and very alert and aware of her surroundings --- which is great, except for the fact that it means that, during the day, we need to pay more attention to her, and at night, I'm awake the whole time with her. In the hospital (we had her in our room) and here at home, I've been allowing Debi to sleep through the night in bed, to heal from the surgery, and I stay awake with the baby. I sleep between one and four hours per day, at maximum. I can't so nobody warned me about this! ;-P On a different note, thanks to all of the rain we've had here in the northeast US this year, my basement office flooded while I was away in the hospital, tending to more important issues. As a result, both my development and backup machines were destroyed, including all of my undelivered work, research projects, et cetera. So in addition to no sleep, I get to enjoy no peace as I work to deliver what I can (behind schedule) and distribute refunds to clients. Having a baby is difficult enough; having a baby and a career is more difficult; having a baby and working as a freelancer or owner/operator of a company is the epitome of masochism --- I'm learning that quite thoroughly through experience. Still, all in all, everything is fine. It'll be tight and stressful until things are caught back up work-wise, but I'm just fine with that. Because from the moment my little girl filled those lungs and executed her first Hello, World! application at quarter-to-three in the morning last Monday, there's been a completely new Dan Brown. Thanks for everyone's checking in and well-wishing, once again, and I'll get back to everyone personally as soon as I can. In the meantime, I'll be back here at my desk, so zip me an email if you need me. It may take a bit longer for me to reply until I get caught up, but I will. For those of you with no interest in this, please exercise your email-delete capabilities at this time. Thanks! -- /Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/ Check out our great hosting and dedicated server deals at
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On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 12:29 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: ALL: It's far easier to drop a line to the mailing lists and BCC a few others than to write back to many individually. My favorite of my teachers told us repeatedly to just maintain ourselves. He meant hold on to the unchanging, inside, at our silent core.. despite the pressure to 'lose it' in the outside field of change.. ..and so then when things get easier again, we find that our tenacity had served us well; now we have a new level of strength, 'staying power'. Sounds like you are having one of these times Dan. Hang in there! Sounds like you are. :-) Hats off to you. And best wishes, of course! -Govinda -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:54:05PM -0400, tedd wrote: snip Everything is backed up at least three fold. I am considering online backup and waiting for the cost to go down. Tried Carbonite.com? I think they're like US$55 / year. Work on Mac and PC, but I doubt Linux, and I don't know about their space limits. Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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tedd wrote: Everything is backed up at least three fold. I am considering online backup and waiting for the cost to go down. You should add paper backups to that list! http://ollydbg.de/Paperbak/ Sam Stelfox -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
