Re: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)

2002-01-09 Thread Peter J. Schoenster

On 7 Feb 2002, at 23:21, Sander Peters wrote:

 Hello,
 
 
 This is my problem:
 
 $today = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d),date(Y)));
 $last_week = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d)-7,date(Y)));
 echo ($today - $last_week); The result is a number like 8876
 (20020107-20011231 = 8876) But in date thinking it should be 7!
 
 How can I let php count in real days/month/years in stead of numbers?


Sanders,

I've not prorammed PHP much (Perl), but I looked in the docs and 
could not find anything. I tested your above code and on my 
FreeBSD box with PHP Version 4.0.6 it returned 7.

Peter



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Re: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)

2002-01-08 Thread Henning Sprang

Sander Peters wrote:

 Hello,
 
 
 This is my problem:
 
 $today = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d),date(Y)));
 $last_week = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d)-7,date(Y)));
 echo ($today - $last_week);

 The result is a number like 8876 (20020107-20011231 = 8876)


which is completely correct.
with date as you use it up there you only generate numerical values in a 
format you specify, and then you substract those numericals from each 
other, echoing the rest of 8876


 But in date thinking it should be 7!


I think if you want to get the number of days you have to

1) substract the  mktime values you used in the date statement to get 
the difference in seconds

2) count how many days you have with this amount of seconds by dividing 
the seconds through 86400

date is a function to give you representations of a date and time at any 
given moment as expressed in unix time in a lot of different, 
configurable formats. after you generated a date representation with 
date, the program doesn't know anything at all about the date/time 
meanings of that string or number.

hth

henning




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[PHP] counting with dates (help!)

2002-01-07 Thread Sander Peters

Hello,


This is my problem:

$today = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d),date(Y)));
$last_week = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d)-7,date(Y)));
echo ($today - $last_week);
The result is a number like 8876 (20020107-20011231 = 8876)
But in date thinking it should be 7!

How can I let php count in real days/month/years in stead of numbers?

Maybe this is a silly question, but anyone who has the answer would help
me very much!

Thanks in advance!


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RE: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)

2002-01-07 Thread Martin Towell

You'll need to use Julian format (I think that the name for it) which is
DDD -  is the year and DDD is the number of days into the year. I'm
unsure as to how to do this in PHP so you'll need to do some searching -
unless someone knows... Would be nice to know exactly how to do it in case
it crops up for me in the future sometime...

Martin

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Subject: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)


Hello,


This is my problem:

$today = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d),date(Y)));
$last_week = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d)-7,date(Y)));
echo ($today - $last_week);
The result is a number like 8876 (20020107-20011231 = 8876)
But in date thinking it should be 7!

How can I let php count in real days/month/years in stead of numbers?

Maybe this is a silly question, but anyone who has the answer would help
me very much!

Thanks in advance!


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RE: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)

2002-01-07 Thread Boget, Chris

 $today = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d),date(Y)));
 $last_week = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d)-7,date(Y)));
 echo ($today - $last_week);
 The result is a number like 8876 (20020107-20011231 = 8876)
 But in date thinking it should be 7!

No, that's the difference in time represented by the number of seconds.
You still need to work with it a little more.

8876 / 60 = number of hours  /* 60 = number of seconds in an hour */
8876 / 60 / 24 = number of days.  /* 24 = number of hours in a day */

Chris



Re: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)

2002-01-07 Thread Steve Cayford

Well, I'll chime in as well. I'd recommend doing all your calculations 
in timestamps in seconds, then convert the results into days, dates, or 
whatever. If you only have a date to start with then convert to a 
timestamp, do the calculation, and convert back. You could wrap it in a 
function like this:

?php
function dateDiffInDays($date1,$date2) {
 $date1Tm = strtotime($date1);
 $date2Tm = strtotime($date2);
 $diff = abs($date1Tm - $date2Tm) / 86400;
 return $diff;
}

$today = date(Ymd,mktime(0,0,0, date(m), date(d), date(Y)));
$last_week = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m), date(d)-7, 
date(Y)));

print(today: $today br\n);
print(last_week: $last_week br\n);
print(diff in days:  . dateDiffInDays($last_week, $today) . br\n);
?


On Thursday, February 7, 2002, at 04:21  PM, Sander Peters wrote:

 Hello,


 This is my problem:

 $today = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d),date(Y)));
 $last_week = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d)-7,date(Y)));
 echo ($today - $last_week);
 The result is a number like 8876 (20020107-20011231 = 8876)
 But in date thinking it should be 7!

 How can I let php count in real days/month/years in stead of numbers?

 Maybe this is a silly question, but anyone who has the answer would help
 me very much!

 Thanks in advance!


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Re: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)

2002-01-07 Thread DL Neil

RE: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)Hi Sander,
(and Chris, and Martin)

 $today = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d),date(Y)));
 $last_week = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d)-7,date(Y)));
 echo ($today - $last_week);
 The result is a number like 8876 (20020107-20011231 = 8876)
 But in date thinking it should be 7!
No, that's the difference in time represented by the number of seconds.
You still need to work with it a little more.
8876 / 60 = number of hours  /* 60 = number of seconds in an hour */
8876 / 60 / 24 = number of days.  /* 24 = number of hours in a day */

=I'm sorry but neither the above, nor the suggestion of Julian dates was correct (in 
all cases). The two numbers
($today and $last_week) generated in the PHP code above are in CCYYMMDD format (as 
used by MySQL to store dates,
BTW).

=So you are correct (Sander):
20020107 less
20011231 equals
8876

=but this number is meaningless. If the formulae proposed above are applied, the 
answer is not 7 days.

=Similarly (Julian dates = CCYYDDD format)
2002007 less
2001365 equals
642

=However let's jump forward in time, to tomorrow (hey what's 45 minutes between 
friends?):
20020108 less
20020101 equals
0007

=and:
2002008 less
2002001 equals
007

=woohoo! How come they 'work' tomorrow but not today? Because (using the first format) 
whilst the last and
second to last digits represent days (hence it 'works' tomorrow), the preceding pair 
of digits represent months,
and the procession of days into months is not a decimal progression. (smack your 
forehead into the wall
now...but don't do it too often, because no matter how good it feels, it'll feel a 
whole lot better when you
stop!)

=this is also the reason that using a Julian date format won't work - they look like 
decimal numbers (look like
a duck), you can perform arithmetic on them (walk like a duck), but if your 
calculation spans a year-break you
will discover that they are not really decimal numbers (and they bark like a dog).

=The three main date formats are:

1 CCYYMMDD (as mentioned above) because it is the way MySQL does things. You can't use 
this for 'real
arithmetic' as we've just discussed, but you can do comparisons,
eg is 'today'  'yesterday' (when I was young...)

2 dd-mm-ccyy (or variant) which is the way humans like to read their dates. This 
is for appearances, and
once again not for arithmetic/logic.
PS never, never, never (did I say never) use dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy because of the 
ambiguities it causes -
particularly between Americans and the rest of the world (and date-guessing functions 
- see your manual)

3 UNIX Epoch timestamp which is a count of the number of seconds since midnight 1 Jan 
1970 (GMT). This is an
absolutely ugly way to look at dates (and times), but it is really easy to use for 
arithmetic and after a while
you don't think it at all odd that without any effort you can recall that there are 
86,400 seconds in one day.

=Now that piece of trivia, a pocket protector, and band-aid keeping your spectacle 
frames together will make you
a babe-magnet in every bar (well those that serve Heineken anyway).

=Putting aside several HOURS to study the two manuals to get your head around date 
functions is time well spent
(yes I know, it takes me a little longer...) - particularly the sheer number of SQL 
date functions (the power of
which is all too frequently overlooked). Regarding the PHP functions, I made a page 
list, and as I made notes
about each one, I annotated it with a 'purpose' so that I could keep them straight in 
my mind. Well, enough of
me and there reasons why girls in bars don't talk to me...

=Let me do my usual frustrating thing and ask you what you are REALLY wanting to do. 
You don't actually want to
subtract those two numbers/PHP variables, because you already know the answer in their 
very creation...

=Regards,
=dn



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RE: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)

2002-01-07 Thread Martin Towell

Soon after I sent my email, I realised that it was wrong - oops :(

As Steve Cayford said, use timestamps and then convert it back into whatever
format you want

I think the best way to work with dates is not to :) find someone else's
code that works and use that - dates are awful!!

?
  $today = mktime(0, 0, 0, date(m), date(d), date(Y));
  $last_week = mktime(0, 0, 0, date(m), date(d)-7, date(Y));
  $diff = $today - $last_week;
  echo $diff / 86400; // (60 sec/min * 60 min/hr * 24 hr/day)
?

Your comment about not using dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy I totally agree with - I
use dd-Mon- format for my dates for that reason...

Martin

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From: DL Neil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:42 AM
To: Boget, Chris; 'Sander Peters'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin
Towell
Subject: Re: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)


RE: [PHP] counting with dates (help!)Hi Sander,
(and Chris, and Martin)

 $today = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d),date(Y)));
 $last_week = date(Ymd, mktime(0,0,0, date(m),date(d)-7,date(Y)));
 echo ($today - $last_week);
 The result is a number like 8876 (20020107-20011231 = 8876)
 But in date thinking it should be 7!
No, that's the difference in time represented by the number of seconds.
You still need to work with it a little more.
8876 / 60 = number of hours  /* 60 = number of seconds in an hour */
8876 / 60 / 24 = number of days.  /* 24 = number of hours in a day */

=I'm sorry but neither the above, nor the suggestion of Julian dates was
correct (in all cases). The two numbers
($today and $last_week) generated in the PHP code above are in CCYYMMDD
format (as used by MySQL to store dates,
BTW).

=So you are correct (Sander):
20020107 less
20011231 equals
8876

=but this number is meaningless. If the formulae proposed above are applied,
the answer is not 7 days.

=Similarly (Julian dates = CCYYDDD format)
2002007 less
2001365 equals
642

=However let's jump forward in time, to tomorrow (hey what's 45 minutes
between friends?):
20020108 less
20020101 equals
0007

=and:
2002008 less
2002001 equals
007

=woohoo! How come they 'work' tomorrow but not today? Because (using the
first format) whilst the last and
second to last digits represent days (hence it 'works' tomorrow), the
preceding pair of digits represent months,
and the procession of days into months is not a decimal progression. (smack
your forehead into the wall
now...but don't do it too often, because no matter how good it feels, it'll
feel a whole lot better when you
stop!)

=this is also the reason that using a Julian date format won't work - they
look like decimal numbers (look like
a duck), you can perform arithmetic on them (walk like a duck), but if your
calculation spans a year-break you
will discover that they are not really decimal numbers (and they bark like a
dog).

=The three main date formats are:

1 CCYYMMDD (as mentioned above) because it is the way MySQL does things. You
can't use this for 'real
arithmetic' as we've just discussed, but you can do comparisons,
eg is 'today'  'yesterday' (when I was young...)

2 dd-mm-ccyy (or variant) which is the way humans like to read their
dates. This is for appearances, and
once again not for arithmetic/logic.
PS never, never, never (did I say never) use dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy because
of the ambiguities it causes -
particularly between Americans and the rest of the world (and date-guessing
functions - see your manual)

3 UNIX Epoch timestamp which is a count of the number of seconds since
midnight 1 Jan 1970 (GMT). This is an
absolutely ugly way to look at dates (and times), but it is really easy to
use for arithmetic and after a while
you don't think it at all odd that without any effort you can recall that
there are 86,400 seconds in one day.

=Now that piece of trivia, a pocket protector, and band-aid keeping your
spectacle frames together will make you
a babe-magnet in every bar (well those that serve Heineken anyway).

=Putting aside several HOURS to study the two manuals to get your head
around date functions is time well spent
(yes I know, it takes me a little longer...) - particularly the sheer number
of SQL date functions (the power of
which is all too frequently overlooked). Regarding the PHP functions, I made
a page list, and as I made notes
about each one, I annotated it with a 'purpose' so that I could keep them
straight in my mind. Well, enough of
me and there reasons why girls in bars don't talk to me...

=Let me do my usual frustrating thing and ask you what you are REALLY
wanting to do. You don't actually want to
subtract those two numbers/PHP variables, because you already know the
answer in their very creation...

=Regards,
=dn