RE: [PHP] 3rd include
-Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] 3rd include Has the 3rd include bug (where variable definitions are lost at the 3rd include), been fixed yet? The obvious way to answer this question would be to look it up in the database at bugs.php.net. Any idea whether it's actually gotten entered there? (I tried searching for '3rd', 'third', and 'three' -- 'include' just got way more results than I was interested in sifting through -- and didn't see anything that appeared to match what you're describing... --- Mark Roedel | This is the perversity of software. It Systems Programmer| is *always* more complex than you LeTourneau University | anticipate, even when you know this and Longview, Texas, USA | compensate for it. --Robert Martin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] 3rd include
Has the 3rd include bug (where variable definitions ar lost at the 3rd include), been fixed yet? --Drew Vogel Drew, I hadn't heard about this one. If you find anything, would you please post back your results to the list? TIA Kirk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] 3rd include
I searched the database and did not find anything. I was not sure if the bug could possibly be entered under a different title, though. It is discussed in the manual errata for the include() function, so I would assume the developers at least know of it. --Drew Vogel On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Mark Roedel wrote: -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] 3rd include Has the 3rd include bug (where variable definitions are lost at the 3rd include), been fixed yet? The obvious way to answer this question would be to look it up in the database at bugs.php.net. Any idea whether it's actually gotten entered there? (I tried searching for '3rd', 'third', and 'three' -- 'include' just got way more results than I was interested in sifting through -- and didn't see anything that appeared to match what you're describing... --- Mark Roedel | This is the perversity of software. It Systems Programmer| is *always* more complex than you LeTourneau University | anticipate, even when you know this and Longview, Texas, USA | compensate for it. --Robert Martin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] 3rd include
I don't see anything in the annotations for include() about losing variable definitions...the notes that I see that look remotely relevant are those regarding what PHP considers to be the current directory when doing nested includes, which would cause problems in locating the include files themselves, not in losing their contents. If that's what you're referring to, see bug#11362 - per Zeev, the current CVS (as well as PHP 4.0.7 when it's released), has changed to a behavior that should be more likely to do WhatTheScriptProgrammerMeant in most cases. --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:13 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include I searched the database and did not find anything. I was not sure if the bug could possibly be entered under a different title, though. It is discussed in the manual errata for the include() function, so I would assume the developers at least know of it. --Drew Vogel On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Mark Roedel wrote: -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] 3rd include Has the 3rd include bug (where variable definitions are lost at the 3rd include), been fixed yet? The obvious way to answer this question would be to look it up in the database at bugs.php.net. Any idea whether it's actually gotten entered there? (I tried searching for '3rd', 'third', and 'three' -- 'include' just got way more results than I was interested in sifting through -- and didn't see anything that appeared to match what you're describing... --- Mark Roedel | This is the perversity of software. It Systems Programmer| is *always* more complex than you LeTourneau University | anticipate, even when you know this and Longview, Texas, USA | compensate for it. --Robert Martin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] 3rd include
You're right. It is not discuessed there. My memory served me incorrectly. In index.php (the file loaded by php), 'echo( $HTTP_POST_VARS[last_name] );' will print the variable contents, but in save_script.php (the 3rd file included) the same function call will print nothing. Am I mis understanding something? --Drew Vogel On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Mark Roedel wrote: I don't see anything in the annotations for include() about losing variable definitions...the notes that I see that look remotely relevant are those regarding what PHP considers to be the current directory when doing nested includes, which would cause problems in locating the include files themselves, not in losing their contents. If that's what you're referring to, see bug#11362 - per Zeev, the current CVS (as well as PHP 4.0.7 when it's released), has changed to a behavior that should be more likely to do WhatTheScriptProgrammerMeant in most cases. --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:13 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include I searched the database and did not find anything. I was not sure if the bug could possibly be entered under a different title, though. It is discussed in the manual errata for the include() function, so I would assume the developers at least know of it. --Drew Vogel On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Mark Roedel wrote: -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] 3rd include Has the 3rd include bug (where variable definitions are lost at the 3rd include), been fixed yet? The obvious way to answer this question would be to look it up in the database at bugs.php.net. Any idea whether it's actually gotten entered there? (I tried searching for '3rd', 'third', and 'three' -- 'include' just got way more results than I was interested in sifting through -- and didn't see anything that appeared to match what you're describing... --- Mark Roedel | This is the perversity of software. It Systems Programmer| is *always* more complex than you LeTourneau University | anticipate, even when you know this and Longview, Texas, USA | compensate for it. --Robert Martin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] 3rd include
-Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:19 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include You're right. It is not discuessed there. My memory served me incorrectly. In index.php (the file loaded by php), echo( $HTTP_POST_VARS[last_name] ); will print the variable contents, but in save_script.php (the 3rd file included) the same function call will print nothing. Are you quite sure there's not something else going on here? (An issue of the $HTTP_POST_VARS array being out-of-scope inside a function, for example?) I'm sure I would have run into this behavior by now if it were a system bug. For whatever it's worth, I just did a test, with includes nested ten deep, and $HTTP_POST_VARS kept its value at every level. (PHP 4.0.6, Apache 1.3.20, FreeBSD 4-Stable) --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] 3rd include
If a file is included from within a function, this would limit the variable cope of this file, correct? --Drew Vogel On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Mark Roedel wrote: -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:19 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include You're right. It is not discuessed there. My memory served me incorrectly. In index.php (the file loaded by php), echo( $HTTP_POST_VARS[last_name] ); will print the variable contents, but in save_script.php (the 3rd file included) the same function call will print nothing. Are you quite sure there's not something else going on here? (An issue of the $HTTP_POST_VARS array being out-of-scope inside a function, for example?) I'm sure I would have run into this behavior by now if it were a system bug. For whatever it's worth, I just did a test, with includes nested ten deep, and $HTTP_POST_VARS kept its value at every level. (PHP 4.0.6, Apache 1.3.20, FreeBSD 4-Stable) --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] 3rd include
-Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:14 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include If a file is included from within a function, this would limit the variable cope of this file, correct? Yes it would. (Specifically, it would mean that everything in that file operates at the same scope as the function in which it's included. That, in turn, means that $HTTP_POST_VARS is likely only available if it's been declared as global within that function. --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Mark Roedel wrote: -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:19 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include You're right. It is not discuessed there. My memory served me incorrectly. In index.php (the file loaded by php), echo( $HTTP_POST_VARS[last_name] ); will print the variable contents, but in save_script.php (the 3rd file included) the same function call will print nothing. Are you quite sure there's not something else going on here? (An issue of the $HTTP_POST_VARS array being out-of-scope inside a function, for example?) I'm sure I would have run into this behavior by now if it were a system bug. For whatever it's worth, I just did a test, with includes nested ten deep, and $HTTP_POST_VARS kept its value at every level. (PHP 4.0.6, Apache 1.3.20, FreeBSD 4-Stable) --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] 3rd include
For reference, in case anyone cares-- from within functions, I usually just do: global $HTTP_POST_VARS; extract($HTTP_POST_VARS); ...to account for the scope of the form vars. -Original Message- From: Mark Roedel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:08 PM To: Drew P. Vogel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:14 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include If a file is included from within a function, this would limit the variable cope of this file, correct? Yes it would. (Specifically, it would mean that everything in that file operates at the same scope as the function in which it's included. That, in turn, means that $HTTP_POST_VARS is likely only available if it's been declared as global within that function. --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Mark Roedel wrote: -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:19 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include You're right. It is not discuessed there. My memory served me incorrectly. In index.php (the file loaded by php), echo( $HTTP_POST_VARS[last_name] ); will print the variable contents, but in save_script.php (the 3rd file included) the same function call will print nothing. Are you quite sure there's not something else going on here? (An issue of the $HTTP_POST_VARS array being out-of-scope inside a function, for example?) I'm sure I would have run into this behavior by now if it were a system bug. For whatever it's worth, I just did a test, with includes nested ten deep, and $HTTP_POST_VARS kept its value at every level. (PHP 4.0.6, Apache 1.3.20, FreeBSD 4-Stable) --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] 3rd include
Ok. That is it. Sorry for the confusion and thank you for the help. --Drew Vogel On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Mark Roedel wrote: -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:14 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include If a file is included from within a function, this would limit the variable cope of this file, correct? Yes it would. (Specifically, it would mean that everything in that file operates at the same scope as the function in which it's included. That, in turn, means that $HTTP_POST_VARS is likely only available if it's been declared as global within that function. --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Mark Roedel wrote: -Original Message- From: Drew P. Vogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:19 PM To: Mark Roedel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] 3rd include You're right. It is not discuessed there. My memory served me incorrectly. In index.php (the file loaded by php), echo( $HTTP_POST_VARS[last_name] ); will print the variable contents, but in save_script.php (the 3rd file included) the same function call will print nothing. Are you quite sure there's not something else going on here? (An issue of the $HTTP_POST_VARS array being out-of-scope inside a function, for example?) I'm sure I would have run into this behavior by now if it were a system bug. For whatever it's worth, I just did a test, with includes nested ten deep, and $HTTP_POST_VARS kept its value at every level. (PHP 4.0.6, Apache 1.3.20, FreeBSD 4-Stable) --- Mark Roedel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) || There cannot be a crisis next week. Systems Programmer / WebMaster || My schedule is already full. LeTourneau University ||-- Henry Kissinger -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
