[PHP] File Upload MultiPart

2013-02-24 Thread user

Hello,

I have been looking how to upload big files more than 1GB , with php but 
it doesn't work well. I guess php POST multipart method is to memory 
consuming.
Is there a way , like in the apache.commons to catch the stream and 
handle it ?
I've looked at the rfc1867.c file implementation and it seems that this 
is where the memory goes really up. Is there a way we could change this ?


Kind Regards
Wim

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Re: [PHP] File Upload MultiPart

2013-02-24 Thread tamouse mailing lists
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM,  user@domain.invalid wrote:
 Hello,

 I have been looking how to upload big files more than 1GB , with php but it
 doesn't work well. I guess php POST multipart method is to memory consuming.
 Is there a way , like in the apache.commons to catch the stream and handle
 it ?
 I've looked at the rfc1867.c file implementation and it seems that this is
 where the memory goes really up. Is there a way we could change this ?

 Kind Regards
 Wim

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Although loathe to respond to someone listed as user@domain.local...

Maybe look at 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10961538/uploading-very-large-files-5gb-to-15gb

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[PHP] File upload in map drive with PHP

2012-01-26 Thread Mehmet YAYLA

Hello everyone,
I've a question.

I'm using map drive for file upload but dos'nt work.

How can i do file upload map drive with php?

Best Regards.


  

[PHP] File Upload Problem

2011-04-06 Thread tedd

Hi gang:

I wrote a simple script to upload image files from my desktop to a 
server -- the exact same code works on two servers, but fails on a 
third.


I suspect there is something set different between the servers, but I 
can't find it.


Oddly enough, I can upload image files directly to the database, but 
not to the file system.


What could be wrong? What should I be looking for?

Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] File Upload Problem

2011-04-06 Thread Bastien Koert
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, tedd t...@sperling.com wrote:
 Hi gang:

 I wrote a simple script to upload image files from my desktop to a server --
 the exact same code works on two servers, but fails on a third.

 I suspect there is something set different between the servers, but I can't
 find it.

 Oddly enough, I can upload image files directly to the database, but not to
 the file system.

 What could be wrong? What should I be looking for?

 Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] File Upload Problem

2011-04-06 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 13:10, tedd t...@sperling.com wrote:
 Hi gang:

 I wrote a simple script to upload image files from my desktop to a server --
 the exact same code works on two servers, but fails on a third.

 I suspect there is something set different between the servers, but I can't
 find it.

 Oddly enough, I can upload image files directly to the database, but not to
 the file system.

 What could be wrong? What should I be looking for?

Are file uploads enabled and is the size of the file less than the
upload size limitation?  Is the disk or partition to which the
temporary files are being uploaded out of space, whereas the database
- perhaps on a different physical disk or partition - still has
sufficient free space?  Are you sure the user as which the web server
(presumably Apache) runs has permission to write to the temporary and
target directory?  Is the account near or at its disk quota?

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[PHP] file upload utility ?

2011-02-07 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

I'm searching for a utility that let our users upload a file
on a server , then generate a temporary link that point
to the real file.

As this is for internal use we don't need security, the file
can be read by anyone.

The goal is to distribute the file to our users by sending
them an email containing the address of the http temporary
link instead of sending it as an email attachement X 1000 ...

Thank you




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Re: [PHP] file upload utility ?

2011-02-07 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:56, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
 Hello

 I'm searching for a utility that let our users upload a file
 on a server , then generate a temporary link that point
 to the real file.

 As this is for internal use we don't need security, the file
 can be read by anyone.

 The goal is to distribute the file to our users by sending
 them an email containing the address of the http temporary
 link instead of sending it as an email attachement X 1000 ...

Sounds great.  Good luck in your Google search.

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Re: [PHP] file upload utility ?

2011-02-07 Thread Frank Bonnet

On 02/07/2011 05:01 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:56, Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr  wrote:

Hello

I'm searching for a utility that let our users upload a file
on a server , then generate a temporary link that point
to the real file.

As this is for internal use we don't need security, the file
can be read by anyone.

The goal is to distribute the file to our users by sending
them an email containing the address of the http temporary
link instead of sending it as an email attachement X 1000 ...

 Sounds great.  Good luck in your Google search.


I found nothing that's why I wrote this !!!



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Re: [PHP] file upload utility ?

2011-02-07 Thread Ashley Sheridan
Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:

On 02/07/2011 05:01 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:56, Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr  wrote:
 Hello

 I'm searching for a utility that let our users upload a file
 on a server , then generate a temporary link that point
 to the real file.

 As this is for internal use we don't need security, the file
 can be read by anyone.

 The goal is to distribute the file to our users by sending
 them an email containing the address of the http temporary
 link instead of sending it as an email attachement X 1000 ...
  Sounds great.  Good luck in your Google search.

I found nothing that's why I wrote this !!!



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Try googling for the following bits:

File upload form
move_uploaded_file()
file_get_contents()

That will get you going, then if you have written a script and get stuck then 
you can ask us on specifics here. We don't write whole code for you.


Thanks
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Re: [PHP] file upload utility ?

2011-02-07 Thread Jim Lucas
On 2/7/2011 8:03 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote:
 On 02/07/2011 05:01 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:56, Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr  wrote:
 Hello

 I'm searching for a utility that let our users upload a file
 on a server , then generate a temporary link that point
 to the real file.

 As this is for internal use we don't need security, the file
 can be read by anyone.

 The goal is to distribute the file to our users by sending
 them an email containing the address of the http temporary
 link instead of sending it as an email attachement X 1000 ...
  Sounds great.  Good luck in your Google search.

 I found nothing that's why I wrote this !!!
 
 
 

Frank,

Not sure what words you used, here was mine

php file upload examples

Those words resulted in these two at the top of the list

http://www.tizag.com/phpT/fileupload.php
http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/php_file_upload.asp

I briefly read each of them and they are sufficient for what you are trying to
do.  All you have to do is tie in the email portion and that's that.

So, again, to google, I typed these wonderful words of wisdom.

php email example

The first result was this

http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/php_mail.asp

This will get you a very simple email script working.  Personally, I would not
do it this way, but since you mention that this will be all internal, it will
probably do just fine.  If you want a little more control over the email or plan
to use this to send email to outside recipients, I would recommend doing it
differently.

phpmailer

Download that package, then follow its tutorials on how to set it up and send
emails.

phpmailer examples

The first result is this

http://phpmailer.worxware.com/index.php?pg=examples

It has a variety of examples that should cover almost any scenario you can
possibly think of.

Just one thing, do not try and be a cut/paste god here.  Actually take time to
read the examples and understand what they do before you put them into 
production.

This will now end my How to use Google segment for the day.

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Re: [PHP] file upload utility ?

2011-02-07 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:03, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:
 I found nothing that's why I wrote this !!!

My point is, you only told everyone what you're trying to do.  Not
once did you ask a question or mention where you're seeking guidance,
other than your ambivalence on file uploads and distribution.  The
ambiguous nature of your expression makes it even more difficult: you
want a utility, not help in authoring it in PHP.  This is a PHP
programming mailing list for peer-to-peer support by members of the
community, not a tell me the name of software I can download to do
this job group.

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Re: [PHP] File-Upload per Drag-N-Drop?

2010-12-30 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 07:23:25PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:

 Hello,
 
 my users have an Online-File-Store with nearly anything  they  need  but
 one feature is missing:  Drag-D-Drop.
 
 I like to implement Drag-D-Drop so users can Drag a file  from  a  File-
 Manager and Drop it on the Upload-Icon in my Webinterface.
 
 Can someone tell me HOW THIS WORKS?

This is a client-side question. Javascript can handle drag-n-drop;
WordPress does this in its site administration screens. However, it does
not do it from a file manager window.

In any case, this is a client side, not a PHP question.

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[PHP] File-Upload per Drag-N-Drop?

2010-12-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

my users have an Online-File-Store with nearly anything  they  need  but
one feature is missing:  Drag-D-Drop.

I like to implement Drag-D-Drop so users can Drag a file  from  a  File-
Manager and Drop it on the Upload-Icon in my Webinterface.

Can someone tell me HOW THIS WORKS?

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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Re: [PHP] File-Upload per Drag-N-Drop?

2010-12-29 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 13:23, Michelle Konzack
linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote:
 Hello,

 my users have an Online-File-Store with nearly anything  they  need  but
 one feature is missing:  Drag-D-Drop.

 I like to implement Drag-D-Drop so users can Drag a file  from  a  File-
 Manager and Drop it on the Upload-Icon in my Webinterface.

 Can someone tell me HOW THIS WORKS?

That's more of a frontend question to which you and your
six-million-line signature should check Google to find the answer.
Don't get me wrong, Michelle, we've always tried to help out even with
off-topic questions, but this is really pushing it a bit too far with
all of the non-PHP questions you've been asking lately.

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RE: [PHP] File-Upload per Drag-N-Drop?

2010-12-29 Thread Tommy Pham
 -Original Message-
 From: Michelle Konzack [mailto:linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:23 AM
 To: PHP - General
 Subject: [PHP] File-Upload per Drag-N-Drop?
 
 Hello,
 
 my users have an Online-File-Store with nearly anything  they  need  but
 one feature is missing:  Drag-D-Drop.
 
 I like to implement Drag-D-Drop so users can Drag a file  from  a  File-
 Manager and Drop it on the Upload-Icon in my Webinterface.
 
 Can someone tell me HOW THIS WORKS?
 

This sounds like RIA = Rich Internet Application.  Try google'ing for it.
YMMV depends on platform  technology supported.

Regards,
Tommy

 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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Re: [PHP] File-Upload per Drag-N-Drop?

2010-12-29 Thread Michael Shadle
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Daniel P. Brown
daniel.br...@parasane.net wrote:

    That's more of a frontend question to which you and your
 six-million-line signature should check Google to find the answer.
 Don't get me wrong, Michelle, we've always tried to help out even with
 off-topic questions, but this is really pushing it a bit too far with
 all of the non-PHP questions you've been asking lately.

a) +1 - this isn't php-general anymore this feels like
michelle-development-requests (with a horribly long signature) - but I
don't mean to be harsh.

b) HTML5 should be what you want, at some point very soon.

Silverlight isn't fully cross platform
Java is your most universal applet language
fFash has odd issues, but would be second best
but HTML5, that's going to address it all.

Google for plupload it has all the different upload applet types and
tries to determine which one will be best for you. has the client side
and server side pieces included.

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Re: [PHP] File-Upload per Drag-N-Drop?

2010-12-29 Thread a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
On a slight tangent, but is that signature why I'm not able to read any of 
michelles emails on my phone? For some reason, only her emails get stuck and 
won't download, so I have to wait til someone else replies.

To answer the question on this, I've not yet seen a cross platform answer to 
this question; only several different platform dependent solutions from one 
vendor to handle each main OS.

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From: Michael Shadle mike...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Dec 29, 2010 21:38
Subject: [PHP] File-Upload per Drag-N-Drop?
To: Michelle Konzack linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net
Cc: PHP - General php-general@lists.php.net


On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Daniel P. Brown
daniel.br...@parasane.net wrote:

    That's more of a frontend question to which you and your
 six-million-line signature should check Google to find the answer.
 Don't get me wrong, Michelle, we've always tried to help out even with
 off-topic questions, but this is really pushing it a bit too far with
 all of the non-PHP questions you've been asking lately.

a) +1 - this isn't php-general anymore this feels like
michelle-development-requests (with a horribly long signature) - but I
don't mean to be harsh.

b) HTML5 should be what you want, at some point very soon.

Silverlight isn't fully cross platform
Java is your most universal applet language
fFash has odd issues, but would be second best
but HTML5, that's going to address it all.

Google for plupload it has all the different upload applet types and
tries to determine which one will be best for you. has the client side
and server side pieces included.

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[PHP] File Upload

2010-01-30 Thread Ali Reza Sajedi

Hello,

When uploading a file the variable $_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'] is not 
set and when debugging I get the following error although /tmp folder exists 
and the permissions are set to 777:


$_FILES['userfile']['error'] = 6

which says

UPLOAD_ERR_NO_TMP_DIR
Value: 6; Missing a temporary folder. Introduced in PHP 4.3.10 and PHP 
5.0.3.


Has anyone encountered such a problem or has a clue as to what the cause 
could be?


Thank you.

Kind regards

Ali 



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Re: [PHP] File Upload

2010-01-30 Thread Kim Madsen

Ali Reza Sajedi wrote on 30/01/2010 12:27:


UPLOAD_ERR_NO_TMP_DIR
Value: 6; Missing a temporary folder. Introduced in PHP 4.3.10 and PHP 
5.0.3.


Has anyone encountered such a problem or has a clue as to what the cause 
could be?


What does print phpinfo(); tell you about the upload_tmp_dir?

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Re: [PHP] File Upload

2010-01-30 Thread Eric Lee
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Ali Reza Sajedi arsaj...@khanehjou.comwrote:

 Hello,

 When uploading a file the variable $_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'] is not
 set and when debugging I get the following error although /tmp folder exists
 and the permissions are set to 777:

 $_FILES['userfile']['error'] = 6

 which says

 UPLOAD_ERR_NO_TMP_DIR
 Value: 6; Missing a temporary folder. Introduced in PHP 4.3.10 and PHP
 5.0.3.

 Has anyone encountered such a problem or has a clue as to what the cause
 could be?


It might be the upload_tmp_dir no pointing to the right dir !
What is the current of it ?



Regards,
Eric,



Thank you.

 Kind regards

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Re: [PHP] File Upload

2010-01-30 Thread Ali Reza Sajedi
Thank you for your replys.

In php.ini  upload_tmp_dir is not set, so that the system should use its 
default tmp folder.

It used to work properly. But, after a system update from centos5.3 to 
centos5.4 this malfunction is now observed.

Any idea?

Kind regards

Ali

 
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  From: Eric Lee 
  To: Ali Reza Sajedi 
  Cc: phpList list 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [PHP] File Upload





  On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Ali Reza Sajedi arsaj...@khanehjou.com 
wrote:

Hello,

When uploading a file the variable $_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'] is not 
set and when debugging I get the following error although /tmp folder exists 
and the permissions are set to 777:

$_FILES['userfile']['error'] = 6

which says

UPLOAD_ERR_NO_TMP_DIR
Value: 6; Missing a temporary folder. Introduced in PHP 4.3.10 and PHP 
5.0.3.

Has anyone encountered such a problem or has a clue as to what the cause 
could be?



  It might be the upload_tmp_dir no pointing to the right dir !
  What is the current of it ?



  Regards,
  Eric,




Thank you.

Kind regards

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Re: [PHP] File Upload

2010-01-30 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 14:40 +0100, Ali Reza Sajedi wrote:

 Thank you for your replys.
 
 In php.ini  upload_tmp_dir is not set, so that the system should use its 
 default tmp folder.
 
 It used to work properly. But, after a system update from centos5.3 to 
 centos5.4 this malfunction is now observed.
 
 Any idea?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Ali
 
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Eric Lee 
   To: Ali Reza Sajedi 
   Cc: phpList list 
   Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:21 PM
   Subject: Re: [PHP] File Upload
 
 
 
 
 
   On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Ali Reza Sajedi arsaj...@khanehjou.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 When uploading a file the variable $_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'] is not 
 set and when debugging I get the following error although /tmp folder exists 
 and the permissions are set to 777:
 
 $_FILES['userfile']['error'] = 6
 
 which says
 
 UPLOAD_ERR_NO_TMP_DIR
 Value: 6; Missing a temporary folder. Introduced in PHP 4.3.10 and PHP 
 5.0.3.
 
 Has anyone encountered such a problem or has a clue as to what the cause 
 could be?
 
 
 
   It might be the upload_tmp_dir no pointing to the right dir !
   What is the current of it ?
 
 
 
   Regards,
   Eric,
 
 
 
 
 Thank you.
 
 Kind regards
 
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The upgrade just changed the setting. If you set this in your php.ini,
it should work again.

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Re: [PHP] File upload directive: $_FILES['filename']['name'] instead of $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name']

2009-12-26 Thread Richard Quadling
2009/12/23 Andrei Iarus poni1...@yahoo.com

 Found the problem: I use Zend Framework, and after using a procedre, it is 
 automatically moved. :( Thanks very much, I thought it was a problem with 
 PHP, but from now on, it is a Zend Framework problem. Thanks again.

 --- On Wed, 12/23/09, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: [PHP] File upload directive: $_FILES['filename']['name'] instead 
 of $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name']
 To: Andrei Iarus poni1...@yahoo.com, PHP General list 
 php-general@lists.php.net
 Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 7:52 PM

 2009/12/23 Andrei Iarus poni1...@yahoo.com:
  Of course: also tried the is_uploaded_file, exactly like in the manual. And
  it fails :(
 
  --- On Wed, 12/23/09, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  From: Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com
  Subject: Re: [PHP] File upload directive: $_FILES['filename']['name']
  instead of $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name']
  To: Andrei Iarus poni1...@yahoo.com
  Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
  Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 6:10 PM
 
  2009/12/22 Andrei Iarus poni1...@yahoo.com:
  Hello,
 
  On my production  testing servers (production runs on a centrino and
  testing runs on Windows) I can only access the temporary uploaded file 
  using
  ini_get( 'upload_tmp_dir' . '/' . $_FILES['filename']['name'];
  while the file $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name'] simply does not exist
  (checked with file_exists() function, and also looking in the temporary
  folder).
 
  Is there a problem with my PHP installations? Is there any directive to
  change this bihaviour?
 
  On production: PHP 5.2.10 and on testing: PHP 5.2.8 and 5.3.0
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
 
  2 functions to get to grips with:
 
  1 - is_uploaded_file()
  2 - move_uploaded_file()
 
  Example from http://php.net/is_uploaded_file
 
  ?php
 
  if (is_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'])) {
     echo File . $_FILES['userfile']['name'] . uploaded successfully.\n;
     echo Displaying contents\n;
     readfile($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name']);
  } else {
     echo Possible file upload attack: ;
     echo filename '. $_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'] . '.;
  }
 
  ?
 
 
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 What version of Windows?

 Can you provide a really basic test?

 And a var_dump($_FILES) please?

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Re: [PHP] File upload directive: $_FILES['filename']['name'] instead of $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name']

2009-12-23 Thread Richard Quadling
2009/12/22 Andrei Iarus poni1...@yahoo.com:
 Hello,

 On my production  testing servers (production runs on a centrino and testing 
 runs on Windows) I can only access the temporary uploaded file using
 ini_get( 'upload_tmp_dir' . '/' . $_FILES['filename']['name'];
 while the file $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name'] simply does not exist (checked 
 with file_exists() function, and also looking in the temporary folder).

 Is there a problem with my PHP installations? Is there any directive to 
 change this bihaviour?

 On production: PHP 5.2.10 and on testing: PHP 5.2.8 and 5.3.0

 Thanks in advance.




2 functions to get to grips with:

1 - is_uploaded_file()
2 - move_uploaded_file()

Example from http://php.net/is_uploaded_file

?php

if (is_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'])) {
   echo File . $_FILES['userfile']['name'] . uploaded successfully.\n;
   echo Displaying contents\n;
   readfile($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name']);
} else {
   echo Possible file upload attack: ;
   echo filename '. $_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'] . '.;
}

?


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Re: [PHP] File upload directive: $_FILES['filename']['name'] instead of $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name']

2009-12-23 Thread Richard Quadling
2009/12/23 Andrei Iarus poni1...@yahoo.com:
 Of course: also tried the is_uploaded_file, exactly like in the manual. And
 it fails :(

 --- On Wed, 12/23/09, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: [PHP] File upload directive: $_FILES['filename']['name']
 instead of $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name']
 To: Andrei Iarus poni1...@yahoo.com
 Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
 Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 6:10 PM

 2009/12/22 Andrei Iarus poni1...@yahoo.com:
 Hello,

 On my production  testing servers (production runs on a centrino and
 testing runs on Windows) I can only access the temporary uploaded file using
 ini_get( 'upload_tmp_dir' . '/' . $_FILES['filename']['name'];
 while the file $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name'] simply does not exist
 (checked with file_exists() function, and also looking in the temporary
 folder).

 Is there a problem with my PHP installations? Is there any directive to
 change this bihaviour?

 On production: PHP 5.2.10 and on testing: PHP 5.2.8 and 5.3.0

 Thanks in advance.




 2 functions to get to grips with:

 1 - is_uploaded_file()
 2 - move_uploaded_file()

 Example from http://php.net/is_uploaded_file

 ?php

 if (is_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'])) {
    echo File . $_FILES['userfile']['name'] . uploaded successfully.\n;
    echo Displaying contents\n;
    readfile($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name']);
 } else {
    echo Possible file upload attack: ;
    echo filename '. $_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'] . '.;
 }

 ?


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What version of Windows?

Can you provide a really basic test?

And a var_dump($_FILES) please?

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[PHP] File upload directive: $_FILES['filename']['name'] instead of $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name']

2009-12-22 Thread Andrei Iarus
Hello,
 
On my production  testing servers (production runs on a centrino and testing 
runs on Windows) I can only access the temporary uploaded file using 
ini_get( 'upload_tmp_dir' . '/' . $_FILES['filename']['name'];
while the file $_FILES['filename']['tmp_name'] simply does not exist (checked 
with file_exists() function, and also looking in the temporary folder).
 
Is there a problem with my PHP installations? Is there any directive to change 
this bihaviour?
 
On production: PHP 5.2.10 and on testing: PHP 5.2.8 and 5.3.0
 
Thanks in advance.


  

[PHP] file upload question

2009-08-03 Thread seb

Hey all,

i am using move_upload function to upload files to the server, but i 
want to add a feature that will allow files to be archived that have 
been uploaded already.


so, the problem is:

i upload a file that i want to upgrade and move the old file to an 
archive directory but I want to verify the NEW file is upload BEFORE 
moving the old file (the file being uploaded might not have the same 
filename as the old file currently on the server)..


i want to move the old file only when the new file was successfully 
uploaded. something like:


if(move_uploaded_file())
{
   rename(...);
}

only one problem.. then if both files have the same name it will be 
overwritten before it moves the old one i want to save. if i move the 
old one first, there still the possibility of the new upload failing so 
i am back to square one..


i guess i can move_upload to a different directory, verify it's been 
uploaded, move the old to the archive file, then move the new file back 
to where it should be (where the archive file was)..


is that my only option? any suggestions?

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Re: [PHP] file upload question

2009-08-03 Thread Phpster





On Aug 3, 2009, at 7:04 AM, seb sebast...@triponthis.net wrote:


Hey all,

i am using move_upload function to upload files to the server, but i  
want to add a feature that will allow files to be archived that have  
been uploaded already.


so, the problem is:

i upload a file that i want to upgrade and move the old file to an  
archive directory but I want to verify the NEW file is upload BEFORE  
moving the old file (the file being uploaded might not have the same  
filename as the old file currently on the server)..


i want to move the old file only when the new file was successfully  
uploaded. something like:




only one problem.. then if both files have the same name it will be  
overwritten before it moves the old one i want to save. if i move  
the old one first, there still the possibility of the new upload  
failing so i am back to square one..


i guess i can move_upload to a different directory, verify it's been  
uploaded, move the old to the archive file, then move the new file  
back to where it should be (where the archive file was)..


is that my only option? any suggestions?

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Do an check for the file before moving it

If(file_exists($filename)){
  // copy file out to archive
}

}if(move_uploaded_file())
{


}

Bastien






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RE: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: Per Jessen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:09 AM
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)
 
 Boyd, Todd M. wrote:
 
  I had to use Java for the simple fact that PHP by itself cannot
 access
  the local file system in a way that allows for the partial loading of
  files.
 
 Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for anything
 written in PHP to access anything on the client.

Gee.. I get the feeling that you didn't read what I wrote in that post.

PHP can't access client stuff.

No, PHP _CAN'T_ access client stuff!

Um... kay?


Todd Boyd
Web Programmer





[PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:47 PM
 To: Richard Heyes
 Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)



 On Aug 9, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for
  anything
  written in PHP to access anything on the client.
 
  Wouldn't it be fun though if it could? :-)
 
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 Years ago someone made an activex component to run php on the client.
 Apparently it went nowhere.

Willing to bet it had been completely squashed due to ActiveX
vulnerabilities and that Firefox actively refuses ADO.
 
 
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RE: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread Per Jessen
Boyd, Todd M. wrote:

 I had to use Java for the simple fact that PHP by itself cannot
 access the local file system in a way that allows for the partial
 loading of files.
 
 Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for
 anything written in PHP to access anything on the client.
 
 Gee.. I get the feeling that you didn't read what I wrote in that
 post.
 
 PHP can't access client stuff.
 
 No, PHP _CAN'T_ access client stuff!
 
 Um... kay?

Todd, I just wanted to stress that there is NO way for PHP to access
anything on the client.  The way you wrote it, you sort of implied that
there might be other ways:

PHP by itself cannot access the local file system in a way that
allows ... 

That's all. 


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RE: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread tedd

At 6:33 PM +0200 8/11/08, Per Jessen wrote:

Boyd, Todd M. wrote:


 I had to use Java for the simple fact that PHP by itself cannot
 access the local file system in a way that allows for the partial
 loading of files.


 Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for

  anything written in PHP to access anything on the client.
-snip-
Todd, I just wanted to stress that there is NO way for PHP to access
anything on the client.  The way you wrote it, you sort of implied that
there might be other ways:

PHP by itself cannot access the local file system in a way that
allows ...

That's all.


The above is saying two different things.

1). PHP by itself cannot access the local file system  -- true.

2) ... there is NO way for PHP to access anything on the client. 
-- not true.


Javascript can access some stuff on the client -- true.

Javascript and php can communicate  -- also true.

Therefore, anything that javascript can access can be provided to 
php, thus proving [2] wrong.


Now, if I'm wrong, please show me something that javascript can get 
that can't be provided to php.


Cheers,

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RE: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread Per Jessen
tedd wrote:

Todd, I just wanted to stress that there is NO way for PHP to access
anything on the client.  The way you wrote it, you sort of implied
that there might be other ways:

PHP by itself cannot access the local file system in a way that
allows ...

That's all.
 
 The above is saying two different things.
 
 1). PHP by itself cannot access the local file system  -- true.
 
 2) ... there is NO way for PHP to access anything on the client.
 -- not true.

Statement 2 _is_ 100% true.  Sorry, end of discussion for my part.


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RE: RE: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: Per Jessen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 1:17 PM
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: RE: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)
 
 tedd wrote:
 
 Todd, I just wanted to stress that there is NO way for PHP to access
 anything on the client.  The way you wrote it, you sort of implied
 that there might be other ways:
 
 PHP by itself cannot access the local file system in a way that
 allows ...
 
 That's all.
 
  The above is saying two different things.
 
  1). PHP by itself cannot access the local file system  -- true.
 
  2) ... there is NO way for PHP to access anything on the client.
  -- not true.
 
 Statement 2 _is_ 100% true.  Sorry, end of discussion for my part.

I think there is a difference in definition going on here. An object in the 
local filesystem (though not the original copy of it, but a facsimile rendered 
through Javascript) can be accessed from PHP, though not in its original form, 
but wrapped in an AJAX request--or hidden INPUT tag, etc. (in the form of 
encoded text)--and then manipulated.

That's what I *MEANT* to say. :P


Todd Boyd
Web Programmer





RE: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread tedd

At 8:17 PM +0200 8/11/08, Per Jessen wrote:

tedd wrote:

  2) ... there is NO way for PHP to access anything on the client.

 -- not true.


Statement 2 _is_ 100% true.  Sorry, end of discussion for my part.

/Per Jessen, Zürich


Per Jessen:

I am sure you are smarter than this -- you're 
probably not understanding what I am saying.


I write code daily that communicates between 
javascript and php. As such, data that is on the 
client-side can passed to the server-side 
effortlessly -- javascript does that very well 
and if you don't want to entertain a refresh, you 
can even use ajax.


PHP can even write javascript to do this and sit 
waiting for a reply back -- it's simply a matter 
of timing.


Here's an example of php and javascript playing well together:

http://webbytedd.com/b/timed-php/

Are you saying that this is not possible? I think 
not -- I think one of us is not understanding 
what the other is saying -- which is it?


Cheers,

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Re: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread mike
On 8/11/08, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Per Jessen:

 I am sure you are smarter than this -- you're probably not understanding
 what I am saying.

No, Per is correct.

PHP itself cannot access anything on the client. It is a server-parsed
language. The client never executes PHP, period.

Javascript, other applets, etc. can *inform* or push information to
PHP about the client or files on the client, but PHP itself has no
idea what is going on other than $_SERVER, $_COOKIE vars and whatnot
identifying the browser. That's all it gets without something else
helping it, and that is still not -PHP- itself.

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RE: RE: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread tedd

At 2:07 PM -0500 8/11/08, Boyd, Todd M. wrote:

I think there is a difference in definition going on here.
-snip-


Todd:

I think you are right -- there must be some type of disconnect going 
on here because it's obvious that php can receive data from 
javascript.


It's also obvious that javascript works client-side.

Therefore, php can receive data from client-side -- to claim 
otherwise is nonsense.


Per Jessen must be talking about something else.

Cheers,

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Re: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread tedd

At 12:19 PM -0700 8/11/08, mike wrote:

On 8/11/08, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Per Jessen:

 I am sure you are smarter than this -- you're probably not understanding
 what I am saying.


No, Per is correct.

PHP itself cannot access anything on the client. It is a server-parsed
language. The client never executes PHP, period.

Javascript, other applets, etc. can *inform* or push information to
PHP about the client or files on the client, but PHP itself has no
idea what is going on other than $_SERVER, $_COOKIE vars and whatnot
identifying the browser. That's all it gets without something else
helping it, and that is still not -PHP- itself.


Arrrggg!!!

Read!

I said:

1). PHP by itself cannot access the local file system  -- true.

Now, do you agree with that?! Isn't that the SAME as what you said above?!

Now, why not read the rest of what I wrote?

Sometimes it's hard to get an idea across because some people refuse 
to read, but love to comment about the obvious.


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Re: RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-11 Thread mike
On 8/11/08, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now, do you agree with that?! Isn't that the SAME as what you said above?!

 Now, why not read the rest of what I wrote?

 Sometimes it's hard to get an idea across because some people refuse to
 read, but love to comment about the obvious.

Or this conversation has become a hassle to pay attention to and I'm
not going to waste time since gmail has compressed all the common text
on each conversation trying to flip through it.

Originally this was a decent idea for discussion since this interests
me, but the thread has been hijacked into a semantics discussion now.
So I decided I've seen enough of this back and forth and posted
something.

I therefore request we stop this discussion or put it into another
thread about PHP vs. clientside crap, and let POST vs. PUT resume
discussion if that's even still alive.

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RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-09 Thread Per Jessen
Boyd, Todd M. wrote:

 I had to use Java for the simple fact that PHP by itself cannot access
 the local file system in a way that allows for the partial loading of
 files. 

Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for anything
written in PHP to access anything on the client. 


/Per Jessen, Zürich


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Re: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-09 Thread Richard Heyes
 Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for anything
 written in PHP to access anything on the client.

Wouldn't it be fun though if it could? :-)

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Re: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-09 Thread tedd

At 3:50 PM +0100 8/9/08, Richard Heyes wrote:

  Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for anything

 written in PHP to access anything on the client.


Wouldn't it be fun though if it could? :-)

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In a round about way it can, but it's limited.

You see, anything that javascript can discover can be passed to php. 
The limits are those limits imposed on javascript.


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Re: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-09 Thread Luke

Except if paired with javadcript.

Luke Slater
Lead Developer
NuVoo

On 9 Aug 2008, at 15:09, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Boyd, Todd M. wrote:

I had to use Java for the simple fact that PHP by itself cannot  
access

the local file system in a way that allows for the partial loading of
files.


Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for anything
written in PHP to access anything on the client.


/Per Jessen, Zürich


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Re: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-09 Thread Per Jessen
tedd wrote:

 At 3:50 PM +0100 8/9/08, Richard Heyes wrote:
   Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for
   anything
  written in PHP to access anything on the client.

Wouldn't it be fun though if it could? :-)

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 In a round about way it can, but it's limited.
 

No, it cannot. 

 You see, anything that javascript can discover can be passed to php.
 The limits are those limits imposed on javascript.

Ah, so you mean that _javascript_ can access something on the client -
very true, but javascript!=PHP.  

Of course PHP can do all sorts if you combine it with javascript, black
magic, or what have you, but PHP alone is a server side scripting
language, nothing more nor less.



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Re: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-09 Thread mike



On Aug 9, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


Given that PHP doesn't run on the client, there is no way for  
anything

written in PHP to access anything on the client.


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Years ago someone made an activex component to run php on the client.  
Apparently it went nowhere. 


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Re: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-09 Thread tedd

At 8:20 PM +0200 8/9/08, Per Jessen wrote:

tedd wrote:

  You see, anything that javascript can discover can be passed to php.

 The limits are those limits imposed on javascript.


Ah, so you mean that _javascript_ can access something on the client -
very true, but javascript!=PHP. 


Of course PHP can do all sorts if you combine it with javascript, black
magic, or what have you, but PHP alone is a server side scripting
language, nothing more nor less.



While js != php, they can communicate and that's what I was saying.

There's nothing that js can discover that can't be passed to php and 
back again -- js and php can communicate and play together. Here's an 
example:


http://webbytedd.com/b/timed-php/

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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Jim Lucas wrote:

 What Apache starts, it reads the PHP memory limits in to the running
 Apache process.  When you try and upload a file, it is a straight HTTP
 upload.  PHP plays no part in the actual upload, except for the upload
 limits set in place by the php settings found in the php.ini or other
 Apache config files. 

Correct.

 Now, Apache actually handles the Upload.  Once the file has been
 received completely, Apache then passes the file and process running
 to PHP. 

Also correct.

 I have never seen a case where Apache has stored the file on the file
 system. In my past experience it has always held the file in memory,
 therefor limited to the max physical memory that was install, minus a
 little for other things.

Well, I can easily show you such a case - I can upload a 1Gb file
without apache memory usage changing one bit.  Even if Apache did
upload into memory, why would that make the file limited to the max
amount of physical memory?? 

How about if I upload a 1Gb file to a webserver on a machine that only
has 256Mb memory - would you say that's impossible?


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Luke
I think the sentiment is that you can't fit all of the file in the  
memory at once


Luke Slater

On 8 Aug 2008, at 07:59, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Jim Lucas wrote:


What Apache starts, it reads the PHP memory limits in to the running
Apache process.  When you try and upload a file, it is a straight  
HTTP
upload.  PHP plays no part in the actual upload, except for the  
upload

limits set in place by the php settings found in the php.ini or other
Apache config files.


Correct.


Now, Apache actually handles the Upload.  Once the file has been
received completely, Apache then passes the file and process running
to PHP.


Also correct.


I have never seen a case where Apache has stored the file on the file
system. In my past experience it has always held the file in memory,
therefor limited to the max physical memory that was install, minus a
little for other things.


Well, I can easily show you such a case - I can upload a 1Gb file
without apache memory usage changing one bit.  Even if Apache did
upload into memory, why would that make the file limited to the max
amount of physical memory??

How about if I upload a 1Gb file to a webserver on a machine that only
has 256Mb memory - would you say that's impossible?


/Per Jessen, Zürich


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Luke wrote:

 I think the sentiment is that you can't fit all of the file in the
 memory at once
 

Which would be absolutely true, but irrelevant - the question is whether
that would prevent me from uploading it?  That is the problem Tom seems
to be having. 


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Torsten Rosenberger
Hello

 on a linux system (Suese 10.2) with 1 GB memory its not possible to upload 
 via http a  1 Gb File. Thats no limit problem  on my php config. i can look 
 the mem stats when uploading and the growing tmp file. If the temp file has 
 900 MB, Main Memory free is 0 and the script aborts and php deletes the tmp 
 file.
 
 Why don't php use swap memory ?
no need for swap

my system OpenSuSE 10.3 512MB RAM

my uploaded file
-rw-r--r-- 1 wwwrun www 10  8. Aug 09:39 mytestfile.out

memory befor upload and during upload are nearly the same
and no swap
 total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem:510488 504728   5760  0  60728
301476
-/+ buffers/cache: 142524 367964
Swap:  2104432  287562075676

a du shows that the tmp file is greater as the memory

du -h /tmp/phpMmAGdN
659M/tmp/phpMmAGdN
and grows
 du -h /tmp/phpMmAGdN
663M/tmp/phpMmAGdN


So i think your script is wrong
maybe you trie to read the hole contend from the upload file in a
variable so you reach the memory

post your script ro see if its is correct.

BR/Torsten


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Luke
Maybe there is some configuration in the server somewhere causing it  
to incorrectly use the tmp?


Luke Slater

On 8 Aug 2008, at 08:48, Torsten Rosenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Hello

on a linux system (Suese 10.2) with 1 GB memory its not possible to  
upload
via http a  1 Gb File. Thats no limit problem  on my php config. i  
can look
the mem stats when uploading and the growing tmp file. If the temp  
file has
900 MB, Main Memory free is 0 and the script aborts and php deletes  
the tmp

file.

Why don't php use swap memory ?

no need for swap

my system OpenSuSE 10.3 512MB RAM

my uploaded file
-rw-r--r-- 1 wwwrun www 10  8. Aug 09:39 mytestfile.out

memory befor upload and during upload are nearly the same
and no swap
total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem:510488 504728   5760  0  60728
301476
-/+ buffers/cache: 142524 367964
Swap:  2104432  287562075676

a du shows that the tmp file is greater as the memory

du -h /tmp/phpMmAGdN
659M/tmp/phpMmAGdN
and grows
du -h /tmp/phpMmAGdN
663M/tmp/phpMmAGdN


So i think your script is wrong
maybe you trie to read the hole contend from the upload file in a
variable so you reach the memory

post your script ro see if its is correct.

BR/Torsten


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Torsten Rosenberger

Am Freitag, den 08.08.2008, 09:00 +0100 schrieb Luke:
 Maybe there is some configuration in the server somewhere causing it  
 to incorrectly use the tmp?
normla config php.ini

; Whether to allow HTTP file uploads.
file_uploads = On

; Temporary directory for HTTP uploaded files (will use system default
if not
; specified).
upload_tmp_dir = /tmp

; Maximum allowed size for uploaded files.
upload_max_filesize = 1500M




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[PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Tom
Problem solved (at one machine)!

I can upload  a ~ 2 GB File now on a machine with 1 GB Main Memory! No 
Problem, swap is used but no break now.
The answer is, i think, the dramatical overhead for http upload, simply my 
post_max_size and upload_max_size are to small. If i will upload 1 GB it 
must minimum 1.5 GB (better more) on this limit variables.
Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other machine 
(but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now)  php.ini with limits 
to 5000M now and i can't upload a File greater than 900MB.
A file under 900MB i see the tmp file growing. A File with +1 GB no temp 
file seeing at all and break after a view minutes. It's horrible with no 
error codes and wasting pure of time :-(
Now i begin at bottom on this machine.

Thanx for alle, who look for this problem.
Now we are the very only that can say that php 100% working file uploads if 
memory lower than the file size :-)




Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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 Hi,

 on a linux system (Suese 10.2) with 1 GB memory its not possible to upload 
 via http a  1 Gb File. Thats no limit problem  on my php config. i can 
 look the mem stats when uploading and the growing tmp file. If the temp 
 file has 900 MB, Main Memory free is 0 and the script aborts and php 
 deletes the tmp file.

 Why don't php use swap memory ?

 Greets Tom
 



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Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other
 machine (but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now)  php.ini
 with limits to 5000M now and i can't upload a File greater than 900MB.
 A file under 900MB i see the tmp file growing. A File with +1 GB no
 temp file seeing at all and break after a view minutes. It's horrible
 with no error codes and wasting pure of time :-(

The maximum size of an HTTP request is 2Gb. 


/Per Jessen, Zürich


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Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Peter Ford

Per Jessen wrote:

Tom wrote:


Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other
machine (but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now)  php.ini
with limits to 5000M now and i can't upload a File greater than 900MB.
A file under 900MB i see the tmp file growing. A File with +1 GB no
temp file seeing at all and break after a view minutes. It's horrible
with no error codes and wasting pure of time :-(


The maximum size of an HTTP request is 2Gb. 



/Per Jessen, Zürich



Also bear in mind that the file is MIME encoded (so probably actually a base-64 
stream or some such) and the actual size of the data sent in the request is 
therefore likely to be some fraction bigger than the file itself (like 33% 
bigger for base-64 encoding)



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Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Luke
You could always program in something (perhaps in Ajax) to monitor the  
progress of the file upload and check for errors periodically.


Luke Slater

On 8 Aug 2008, at 11:55, Peter Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Per Jessen wrote:

Tom wrote:

Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other
machine (but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now)   
php.ini
with limits to 5000M now and i can't upload a File greater than  
900MB.

A file under 900MB i see the tmp file growing. A File with +1 GB no
temp file seeing at all and break after a view minutes. It's  
horrible

with no error codes and wasting pure of time :-(

The maximum size of an HTTP request is 2Gb. /Per Jessen, Zürich


Also bear in mind that the file is MIME encoded (so probably  
actually a base-64 stream or some such) and the actual size of the  
data sent in the request is therefore likely to be some fraction  
bigger than the file itself (like 33% bigger for base-64 encoding)



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Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Tom
What is set this limit?

Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom wrote:

 Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other
 machine (but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now)  php.ini
 with limits to 5000M now and i can't upload a File greater than 900MB.
 A file under 900MB i see the tmp file growing. A File with +1 GB no
 temp file seeing at all and break after a view minutes. It's horrible
 with no error codes and wasting pure of time :-(

The maximum size of an HTTP request is 2Gb.


/Per Jessen, Zürich



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Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Tom wrote:
 
 Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other
 machine (but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now) 
 php.ini with limits to 5000M now and i can't upload a File greater
 than 900MB. A file under 900MB i see the tmp file growing. A File
 with +1 GB no temp file seeing at all and break after a view minutes.
 It's horrible with no error codes and wasting pure of time :-(
 
 The maximum size of an HTTP request is 2Gb.

 
 What is set this limit?
 

I can't find it, but I'm pretty certain it's in RFC2616.


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 Hi Per,
 
 your result is on a suse 8.2 ?
 hmm, i don't know the reason why my suse 10.2 machines do that
 failure. My limits for for post_max_size and upload_max_size is both
 1500M.
 
 Greets  thanx, Tom

Tom, 

check your maximum PHP execution time.  I've just done some testing
where the upload was interrupted after 60seconds with this error:

PHP Fatal error:  Maximum execution time of 60 seconds exceeded in
Unknown on line 0, referer: http://tintin/uploadbig.php

I increased time to 240seconds, and had no problem uploading a 1Gb file. 
This was on a openSUSE 10.3 system with only 256M RAM. 


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 Jim Lucas wrote:
 
 I have never seen a case where Apache has stored the file on the file
 system. In my past experience it has always held the file in memory,
 therefor limited to the max physical memory that was install, minus a
 little for other things.
 
 Well, I can easily show you such a case - I can upload a 1Gb file
 without apache memory usage changing one bit.  Even if Apache did
 upload into memory, why would that make the file limited to the max
 amount of physical memory??
 
 How about if I upload a 1Gb file to a webserver on a machine that only
 has 256Mb memory - would you say that's impossible?

Just did that (1Gb file uploaded to machine with 256M RAM) - Apache
definitely does _not_ store the uploaded file in memory, I also straced
the upload, and it's 1) read from socket followed by 2) write to disk. 


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Tom
Hi Per,

Execution Time ist set to 72000, i learned to set it not to low for tests 
:-)
I learned also the last days many things about the php.ini. Many changes 
affect later, its mostly for me a trial and error thing and results in much 
phenomenon.

At moment its okay, i can upload 1.2 Gb, no problem. I test to upload a 1.9 
GB file (reading the max is 2GB a browser can handle), but this failes. I 
don't know is this the overhead or what else.
Now i search the max value Browseres can handle for input type=hidden 
name=MAX_FILE_SIZE value= /. Know you this value?



Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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Tom wrote:

 Hi Per,

 your result is on a suse 8.2 ?
 hmm, i don't know the reason why my suse 10.2 machines do that
 failure. My limits for for post_max_size and upload_max_size is both
 1500M.

 Greets  thanx, Tom

Tom,

check your maximum PHP execution time.  I've just done some testing
where the upload was interrupted after 60seconds with this error:

PHP Fatal error:  Maximum execution time of 60 seconds exceeded in
Unknown on line 0, referer: http://tintin/uploadbig.php

I increased time to 240seconds, and had no problem uploading a 1Gb file.
This was on a openSUSE 10.3 system with only 256M RAM.


/Per Jessen, Zürich



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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 Hi Per,
 
 Execution Time ist set to 72000, i learned to set it not to low for
 tests
 :-)
 I learned also the last days many things about the php.ini. Many
 changes affect later, its mostly for me a trial and error thing and
 results in much phenomenon.
 
 At moment its okay, i can upload 1.2 Gb, no problem. I test to upload
 a 1.9 GB file (reading the max is 2GB a browser can handle), but this
 failes. I don't know is this the overhead or what else.

Well, it seems to me that you've achieved what you need, right?  You
don't need one big upload, you need many smaller but concurrent
uploads, yeah?
I'll try a bigger file later today and see what happens.


/Per Jessen, Zürich


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Tom
Practical i  implement a robust filebase in my new gamer portal and go to 
max. at upload values. If the users make a big upload, it should be stable.
I think, later (after release) i will enhance it with a ftp port. But not 
yet.

Here you can see, what i have in filebase, but a 1.9 GB upload fails. I 
don't know if this is the overhead.
http://www.guildmeets.de/index.php?onlydirid=78

(in Folder Neue Game Demos)



Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom wrote:

 Hi Per,

 Execution Time ist set to 72000, i learned to set it not to low for
 tests
 :-)
 I learned also the last days many things about the php.ini. Many
 changes affect later, its mostly for me a trial and error thing and
 results in much phenomenon.

 At moment its okay, i can upload 1.2 Gb, no problem. I test to upload
 a 1.9 GB file (reading the max is 2GB a browser can handle), but this
 failes. I don't know is this the overhead or what else.

Well, it seems to me that you've achieved what you need, right?  You
don't need one big upload, you need many smaller but concurrent
uploads, yeah?
I'll try a bigger file later today and see what happens.


/Per Jessen, Zürich



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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Luke
Is a 1.9 gb file upload even sustainable on even a fairly small scale  
web application? Maybe you could implement FTP if you trust the people  
that want to upload the file.


Luke Slater
Lead Developer
NuVoo

On 9 Aug 2008, at 14:52, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Practical i  implement a robust filebase in my new gamer portal and  
go to
max. at upload values. If the users make a big upload, it should be  
stable.
I think, later (after release) i will enhance it with a ftp port.  
But not

yet.

Here you can see, what i have in filebase, but a 1.9 GB upload  
fails. I

don't know if this is the overhead.
http://www.guildmeets.de/index.php?onlydirid=78

(in Folder Neue Game Demos)



Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom wrote:


Hi Per,

Execution Time ist set to 72000, i learned to set it not to low for
tests
:-)
I learned also the last days many things about the php.ini. Many
changes affect later, its mostly for me a trial and error thing and
results in much phenomenon.

At moment its okay, i can upload 1.2 Gb, no problem. I test to upload
a 1.9 GB file (reading the max is 2GB a browser can handle), but this
failes. I don't know is this the overhead or what else.


Well, it seems to me that you've achieved what you need, right?  You
don't need one big upload, you need many smaller but concurrent
uploads, yeah?
I'll try a bigger file later today and see what happens.


/Per Jessen, Zürich



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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Jim Lucas

Per Jessen wrote:


How about if I upload a 1Gb file to a webserver on a machine that only
has 256Mb memory - would you say that's impossible?


/Per Jessen, Zürich




In my experience that would the correct.


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 Practical i  implement a robust filebase in my new gamer portal and go
 to max. at upload values. If the users make a big upload, it should be
 stable. I think, later (after release) i will enhance it with a ftp
 port. But not yet.
 
 Here you can see, what i have in filebase, but a 1.9 GB upload fails.
 I don't know if this is the overhead.
 http://www.guildmeets.de/index.php?onlydirid=78

OK, I've also just tried uploading bigger files - 1280Mb,1536Mb,180MB
are fine, but 1900Mb fails.  I'll do that again with strace and see if
I can spot something obvious - I didn't see any errors etc. 


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 Tom wrote:
 
 Practical i  implement a robust filebase in my new gamer portal and
 go to max. at upload values. If the users make a big upload, it
 should be stable. I think, later (after release) i will enhance it
 with a ftp port. But not yet.
 
 Here you can see, what i have in filebase, but a 1.9 GB upload fails.
 I don't know if this is the overhead.
 http://www.guildmeets.de/index.php?onlydirid=78
 
 OK, I've also just tried uploading bigger files - 1280Mb,1536Mb,180MB
 are fine, but 1900Mb fails.  I'll do that again with strace and see if
 I can spot something obvious - I didn't see any errors etc.
 

This time I had set the upload_file_size and post_max_size to 3000Mb
each, which probably didn't work.  When I tried the 1900Mb file again I
got this error:

[Fri Aug 08 16:57:28 2008] [error] [client 192.168.2.113] PHP Warning: 
POST Content-Length of 1992294868 bytes exceeds the limit
of -1149239296 bytes in Unknown on line 0, referer


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Per Jessen wrote:

 Tom wrote:

 Practical i  implement a robust filebase in my new gamer portal and
 go to max. at upload values. If the users make a big upload, it
 should be stable. I think, later (after release) i will enhance it
 with a ftp port. But not yet.

 Here you can see, what i have in filebase, but a 1.9 GB upload fails.
 I don't know if this is the overhead.
 http://www.guildmeets.de/index.php?onlydirid=78

 OK, I've also just tried uploading bigger files - 1280Mb,1536Mb,180MB
 are fine, but 1900Mb fails.  I'll do that again with strace and see if
 I can spot something obvious - I didn't see any errors etc.


 This time I had set the upload_file_size and post_max_size to 3000Mb
 each, which probably didn't work.  When I tried the 1900Mb file again I
 got this error:

 [Fri Aug 08 16:57:28 2008] [error] [client 192.168.2.113] PHP Warning:
 POST Content-Length of 1992294868 bytes exceeds the limit
 of -1149239296 bytes in Unknown on line 0, referer


 /Per Jessen, Zürich

Just a guess 3000MB exceeds the value of a 4-byte integer when
converted to bytes. -1149239296 is the signed equivalent of
3145728000, which is 3000 * 1024 * 1024. I'm guessing that since the
upload size is greater than a (really large) negative number, PHP is
throwing an error. That's probably where the 2GB figure comes from.

Andrew


Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Andrew Ballard wrote:

 This time I had set the upload_file_size and post_max_size to 3000Mb
 each, which probably didn't work.  When I tried the 1900Mb file again
 I got this error:

 [Fri Aug 08 16:57:28 2008] [error] [client 192.168.2.113] PHP
 [Warning:
 POST Content-Length of 1992294868 bytes exceeds the limit
 of -1149239296 bytes in Unknown on line 0, referer


 /Per Jessen, Zürich
 
 Just a guess 3000MB exceeds the value of a 4-byte integer when
 converted to bytes. -1149239296 is the signed equivalent of
 3145728000, which is 3000 * 1024 * 1024. 

Ah, well spotted.  So the max request size is stored as a signed 32bit
number. 

 I'm guessing that since the upload size is greater than a (really
 large) negative number, PHP is throwing an error. That's probably
 where the 2GB figure comes from. 

That's certainly one place, but the 2Gb limitation is from HTTP or from
apache.  It's mentioned in the apache manual under LimitRequestBody'.

This directive specifies the number of bytes from 0 (meaning unlimited)
to 2147483647 (2GB) that are allowed in a request body.


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Tom
Andrew write the answer:
-1149239296 Bytes is indiz for to big.


This time I had set the upload_file_size and post_max_size to 3000Mb
each, which probably didn't work.  When I tried the 1900Mb file again I
got this error:

[Fri Aug 08 16:57:28 2008] [error] [client 192.168.2.113] PHP Warning:
POST Content-Length of 1992294868 bytes exceeds the limit
of -1149239296 bytes in Unknown on line 0, referer


/Per Jessen, Zürich



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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread mike
On 8/8/08, Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is a 1.9 gb file upload even sustainable on even a fairly small scale web
 application? Maybe you could implement FTP if you trust the people that want
 to upload the file.

This is why I am pushing for people to use PUT.

Still over HTTP, uploaders can be coded to be 'smart' and resume,
re-transmit on failure, etc.

It does however require applet (java, flash, etc) or thick client
support on the client, and a server that understands the DAV request.
I have it working in nginx right now. Need to test large files and
watch PHP's memory consumption, since I am spoonfeeding the file to
PHP.

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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:08 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/8/08, Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is a 1.9 gb file upload even sustainable on even a fairly small scale web
 application? Maybe you could implement FTP if you trust the people that want
 to upload the file.

 This is why I am pushing for people to use PUT.

 Still over HTTP, uploaders can be coded to be 'smart' and resume,
 re-transmit on failure, etc.

 It does however require applet (java, flash, etc) or thick client
 support on the client, and a server that understands the DAV request.
 I have it working in nginx right now. Need to test large files and
 watch PHP's memory consumption, since I am spoonfeeding the file to
 PHP.


I've not had to upload such large files over HTTP, so forgive my
ignorance, but on the request end isn't the only difference between
PUT and POST the verb used in the request (and the intent of the
operation)? What can you do with PUT that cannot also be handled the
same in POST? I don't see any implementations doing it, but from what
I can tell the spec allows you to use Content-Range in the request
headers that your client sends to PUT/POST the same way the server
sends them in the response headers when serving a GET request.

Andrew

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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread mike
On 8/8/08, Andrew Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've not had to upload such large files over HTTP, so forgive my
 ignorance, but on the request end isn't the only difference between
 PUT and POST the verb used in the request (and the intent of the
 operation)? What can you do with PUT that cannot also be handled the
 same in POST? I don't see any implementations doing it, but from what
 I can tell the spec allows you to use Content-Range in the request
 headers that your client sends to PUT/POST the same way the server
 sends them in the response headers when serving a GET request.

POST sends mime-encoded
PUT is raw (AFAIK)

It's basically file exchange friendly. People usually say HTTP isn't
for files, FTP is but that's a whole other can of worms especially
when you're accepting uploads from -anyone- you have to implement a
wacky two-step process, ensure people know how to use FTP, blahblah.

Using PUT you can do pure file uploads, have smart clients that tell
the server where to resume, it's not mime encoded (so not extra
bytes), it can be processed as a web request via PHP, it can be done
over SSL for security ...

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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
mike wrote:

 On 8/8/08, Andrew Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've not had to upload such large files over HTTP, so forgive my
 ignorance, but on the request end isn't the only difference between
 PUT and POST the verb used in the request (and the intent of the
 operation)? What can you do with PUT that cannot also be handled the
 same in POST? I don't see any implementations doing it, but from what
 I can tell the spec allows you to use Content-Range in the request
 headers that your client sends to PUT/POST the same way the server
 sends them in the response headers when serving a GET request.
 
 POST sends mime-encoded
 PUT is raw (AFAIK)

That's not necessarily a big difference between the two - mime-encoded
can also be plain 8-bit.

 Using PUT you can do pure file uploads, have smart clients that tell
 the server where to resume, it's not mime encoded (so not extra
 bytes), it can be processed as a web request via PHP, it can be done
 over SSL for security ...

Same as POST then :-)  (except for the resume bit).

I still don't see much of a difference.  It doesn't matter much to me,
I'd just like to understand what the real difference is.  Maybe I need
to go and read RFC2616.


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread mike
On 8/8/08, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Same as POST then :-)  (except for the resume bit).

 I still don't see much of a difference.  It doesn't matter much to me,
 I'd just like to understand what the real difference is.  Maybe I need
 to go and read RFC2616.

I'm all for using existing POST but it seems like a lot of
configuration needs to occur, and PHP is expecting a single stream of
data. If the stream is broken, how do you resume it? If you accepted
the data raw you could dump the stream to a file until it ends, and
then fseek($fp, $offset) when you get a resume request...

PUT seems to be expected to be straight old file $x goes here ... I
actually am not allowing the file to be put on the filesystem directly
but fed to a PHP script.

I am totally down for POST since POST is supported by browsers, flash,
everything, and PUT has some limitations (java applets aplenty, flash
can do it i think but you have to do actual raw socket communication
and I haven't found an applet for that yet)

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[PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
mike wrote:

 On 8/8/08, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Same as POST then :-)  (except for the resume bit).

 I still don't see much of a difference.  It doesn't matter much to
 me,
 I'd just like to understand what the real difference is.  Maybe I
 need to go and read RFC2616.
 
 I'm all for using existing POST but it seems like a lot of
 configuration needs to occur, 

Well, that's not really true unless your requirements for upload go
beyond what is considered the norm/default.  Large files for instance
are not considered the norm, so yes, some additional configuration is
necessary.

 and PHP is expecting a single stream of data. If the stream is broken,
 how do you resume it? If you accepted the data raw you could dump the
 stream to a file until it ends, and then fseek($fp, $offset) when you
 get a resume request... 

Yes, but that does seem to be the only point about PUT vs. POST.

 PUT seems to be expected to be straight old file $x goes here ... I
 actually am not allowing the file to be put on the filesystem directly
 but fed to a PHP script.
 
 I am totally down for POST since POST is supported by browsers, flash,
 everything, and PUT has some limitations (java applets aplenty, flash
 can do it i think but you have to do actual raw socket communication
 and I haven't found an applet for that yet)

I am not for or against either, I'm just looking for the right argument
for PUT support as it seems to be lacking (and I've never found myself
in a situation where PUT was the solution).


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Tom
 PUT is raw (AFAIK)

That sounds good. Have you any link to a basicly methode description? This 
is a really new methode for me but sounds better than http upload btw. 
resume function is not bad.




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Re: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-08 Thread mike
On 8/8/08, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am not for or against either, I'm just looking for the right argument
 for PUT support as it seems to be lacking (and I've never found myself
 in a situation where PUT was the solution).

I need to accept files of various sizes - up to 2GB, maybe even more
(if it can be supported) - videos, code samples, zips, pdfs, anything.

They're coming from various geographies - so slow unreliable
connections must be factored in.

HTTP upload even with -large- files on a fast connection can be
spotty, due to how many systems are in place between client - server.
There is no resume either with straight browser upload...

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RE: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)

2008-08-08 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:36 PM
 To: Per Jessen
 Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PUT vs. POST (was: php File upload)
 
 On 8/8/08, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am not for or against either, I'm just looking for the right
 argument
  for PUT support as it seems to be lacking (and I've never found
 myself
  in a situation where PUT was the solution).
 
 I need to accept files of various sizes - up to 2GB, maybe even more
 (if it can be supported) - videos, code samples, zips, pdfs, anything.
 
 They're coming from various geographies - so slow unreliable
 connections must be factored in.
 
 HTTP upload even with -large- files on a fast connection can be
 spotty, due to how many systems are in place between client - server.
 There is no resume either with straight browser upload...

My buddy is/was hosting a free licensed-music service that needed segmented 
uploads. I wrote a Java applet that communicates with a receiver PHP page to 
upload the file in segments rather than all at once. I got it to successfully 
upload an MP3, but a few bytes were missing from the destination file. I'll try 
to go digging through the receiver code and see if I can't find something to 
post that may give you guys a push in (hopefully) the right direction.

I had to use Java for the simple fact that PHP by itself cannot access the 
local file system in a way that allows for the partial loading of files. If 
I/we get the source to work, 2GB, 4GB, the contents of the library of 
congress... all will be feasible.

More news at 11,


Todd Boyd
Web Programmer




[PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
Hi,

on a linux system (Suese 10.2) with 1 GB memory its not possible to upload 
via http a  1 Gb File. Thats no limit problem  on my php config. i can look 
the mem stats when uploading and the growing tmp file. If the temp file has 
900 MB, Main Memory free is 0 and the script aborts and php deletes the tmp 
file.

Why don't php use swap memory ?

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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 Hi,
 
 on a linux system (Suese 10.2) with 1 GB memory its not possible to
 upload via http a  1 Gb File. Thats no limit problem  on my php
 config. i can look the mem stats when uploading and the growing tmp
 file. If the temp file has 900 MB, Main Memory free is 0 and the
 script aborts and php deletes the tmp file.
 
 Why don't php use swap memory ?

It doesn't need to - as you've noticed, the uploaded file is being
written to disk, it's not being kept in memory. 

This sounds like a php limit problem to me. 


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
No, ist'not a php limit.  The upload is written in main memory, if i look 
with vmstat, free is going to 0 and the php upload breaks at 0 bytes free. 
Nothing swap used. Any other ideas?

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Tom wrote:

 Hi,

 on a linux system (Suese 10.2) with 1 GB memory its not possible to
 upload via http a  1 Gb File. Thats no limit problem  on my php
 config. i can look the mem stats when uploading and the growing tmp
 file. If the temp file has 900 MB, Main Memory free is 0 and the
 script aborts and php deletes the tmp file.

 Why don't php use swap memory ?

It doesn't need to - as you've noticed, the uploaded file is being
written to disk, it's not being kept in memory.

This sounds like a php limit problem to me.


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 No, ist'not a php limit.  The upload is written in main memory, if i
 look with vmstat, free is going to 0 and the php upload breaks at 0
 bytes free. Nothing swap used. Any other ideas?
 

Interesting problem - maybe an apache limit?  Lack of diskspace? 
Permissions? Which error do you get?  


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
No Apache limit, enough diskspace, no permission problem.
Fact is: During upload looking at main memory, goes to 0 and if 0 uploadet 
tmp File was deleted and no error occur.

It was great, if anybody can test such a upload. The uploaded File musst be 
greater as main memory. While teh uload is running, take a look at memory 
with vmstat. free is goin to 0, no swap is used. I don't know, that is a 
suse 10.2 effcet only.



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Tom wrote:

 No, ist'not a php limit.  The upload is written in main memory, if i
 look with vmstat, free is going to 0 and the php upload breaks at 0
 bytes free. Nothing swap used. Any other ideas?


Interesting problem - maybe an apache limit?  Lack of diskspace?
Permissions? Which error do you get?


/Per Jessen, Zürich



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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Richard Heyes
 No Apache limit, enough diskspace, no permission problem.
 Fact is: During upload looking at main memory, goes to 0 and if 0 uploadet
 tmp File was deleted and no error occur.

 It was great, if anybody can test such a upload. The uploaded File musst be
 greater as main memory. While teh uload is running, take a look at memory
 with vmstat. free is goin to 0, no swap is used. I don't know, that is a
 suse 10.2 effcet only.

What happens with a smaller file? Say 500Mb? You could gradually
increase the file size until you get the error.

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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
smaller files is no problem. The error occoured, if the uploaded File is 
bigger than the installed  main memory.
Ok, i know that http ist not designed for big uploads. But on a big website 
with upload enabled and 30 users upload simultan a 20 MB File, they lost the 
upload while php hold all in memory/Cache and swap is not used. I  don't 
understand why php write the upload chunck for chunck (i can look this)  in 
upload temp file AND holds the upload in main memory.



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 No Apache limit, enough diskspace, no permission problem.
 Fact is: During upload looking at main memory, goes to 0 and if 0 
 uploadet
 tmp File was deleted and no error occur.

 It was great, if anybody can test such a upload. The uploaded File musst 
 be
 greater as main memory. While teh uload is running, take a look at memory
 with vmstat. free is goin to 0, no swap is used. I don't know, that is a
 suse 10.2 effcet only.

 What happens with a smaller file? Say 500Mb? You could gradually
 increase the file size until you get the error.

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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Richard Heyes
Well, you lost me right about... Well when you started. But memory is
cheap...:-/

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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
hmm, memory buying is okay, not the final solution. I think php design fault 
on this function.  It's not comprehensible why php use such a lot main 
memory for an upload.



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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 But on a big website with upload enabled and 30 users upload simultan
 a 20 MB File, they lost the upload while php hold all in memory/Cache
 and swap is not used. I  don't understand why php write the upload
 chunck for chunck (i can look this)  in upload temp file AND holds the
 upload in main memory. 

Well, I can't reproduce the problem - I uploaded a 1Gb file, and I never
saw apache memory usage go beyond 15Mb. 
Might this problem be in your code processing the uploaded file(s)?  In
this test I just uploaded the file, I never tried to process it.


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 hmm, memory buying is okay, not the final solution. I think php design
 fault on this function.  It's not comprehensible why php use such a
 lot main memory for an upload.

Well, PHP doesn't - the upload is apaches job. Once the file is
uploaded, PHP is invoked to process it.  You do your
move_uploaded_file() etc.  What do you do to the uploaded file?


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
With what linux BS have you tested?
No, it isn't the apaches job/problem.
I do nothing with the file. Looking for $_FILES Varables and then 
move_uploaded_file.

But i said it before, the problem is not at this point.
If i upload the file and watch memory with vmstat, free is going 0, cache is 
going to top and if free is 0 = temp file was deleted and script witout an 
error comes back. At the crash point, the File is not complete  uploaded, so 
my $_FILES  have no entry about the file specs.

Im hanging some days with many tests on differnet machines (alls suse) on 
this Problem and can't solve it :-(


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Tom wrote:

 hmm, memory buying is okay, not the final solution. I think php design
 fault on this function.  It's not comprehensible why php use such a
 lot main memory for an upload.

Well, PHP doesn't - the upload is apaches job. Once the file is
uploaded, PHP is invoked to process it.  You do your
move_uploaded_file() etc.  What do you do to the uploaded file?


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 With what linux BS have you tested?

It was an older SUSE Linux 8.2.  But the OS shouldn't matter - maybe the
PHP release and maybe the apache ditto. 

 No, it isn't the apaches job/problem.
 I do nothing with the file. Looking for $_FILES Varables and then
 move_uploaded_file.

That's exactly what I just did.

 But i said it before, the problem is not at this point.
 If i upload the file and watch memory with vmstat, free is going 0,
 cache is going to top and if free is 0 = temp file was deleted and
 script witout an error comes back. At the crash point, the File is not
 complete uploaded, so my $_FILES  have no entry about the file specs.

Ah, so it's not PHP and it's not apache using up your memory - it's your
filesystem cache.  Check how many files you have in the tmp directory
and the destination directory. 



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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
Ah, so it's not PHP and it's not apache using up your memory - it's your
filesystem cache.  Check how many files you have in the tmp directory
and the destination directory.

Okay, thats light in the darkness. But i don't have any idea what i can do 
here. tmp is empty.

Look at the first entry, its after the upload start. The last entry is after 
free = 0 and break. I really have no idea whats going on here.
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  0  0 677076  28020 216052001758  370  166  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 1  0  0 667404  28028 225536001758  371  167  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  1  0 660088  28036 231456001760  371  168  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  1  0 656616  28040 235820001760  372  168  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  0  0 653640  28052 239364001760  372  168  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  0  0 650044  28056 242948001760  372  168  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 1  0  0 642480  28060 250432001760  372  169  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  0  0 635536  28068 257244001760  373  170  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 1  0  0 630080  28072 262440001760  373  170  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  0  0 624500  28080 267892001760  374  170  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  2  0 620532  28080 270440001762  374  171  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  2  0 620904  28080 270440001762  374  171  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 2  0  0 618672  28092 273756001762  374  171  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  0  0 613960  28096 278432001762  374  171  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  2  0 114984  28668 768276001788  406  209  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  0  0 105932  28684 778608001788  407  210  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa
 0  0  0  96756  28692 787448001788  407  211  1  0 98 
1
linuxserver:/tmp # vmstat
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us 

Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

Ah, so it's not PHP and it's not apache using up your memory - it's
your
filesystem cache.  Check how many files you have in the tmp directory
and the destination directory.
 
 Okay, thats light in the darkness. But i don't have any idea what i
 can do here. tmp is empty.
 

What about the destination directory?  Which filesystem are you using? 

I'll try the 1Gb upload again and see how vmstat reacts. 


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
i use ext3
Im realy on no limit. destination ist /tmp and is  fairly empty.
The question is now, if cache full = must hypothetical swap used?
ok, im glad to see your result.



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Tom wrote:

Ah, so it's not PHP and it's not apache using up your memory - it's
your
filesystem cache.  Check how many files you have in the tmp directory
and the destination directory.

 Okay, thats light in the darkness. But i don't have any idea what i
 can do here. tmp is empty.


What about the destination directory?  Which filesystem are you using?

I'll try the 1Gb upload again and see how vmstat reacts.


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote:

 i use ext3
 Im realy on no limit. destination ist /tmp and is  fairly empty.
 The question is now, if cache full = must hypothetical swap used?
 ok, im glad to see your result.

No, high utilization of file system cache will not cause any swapping -
file system caching uses whatever is spare.  If there's nothing, no
caching.  AFAIU.

I can confirm what you're seeing about the cache being used up - I
saw that too.  My cache-number only went to about 485000, and free only
down to 6000-7000.  My webserver also has 1Gb RAM, but it does a few
more things. 

Does your free memory actually go as low as 0?  I don't think this is
about the file system cache - I know you said no limits, but what do
you have for post_max_size and upload_max_size ?  I'm using 1200M for
both for this test.


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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Tom
Hi Per,

your result is on a suse 8.2 ?
hmm, i don't know the reason why my suse 10.2 machines do that failure.
My limits for for post_max_size and upload_max_size is both 1500M.

Greets  thanx, Tom



Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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Tom wrote:

 i use ext3
 Im realy on no limit. destination ist /tmp and is  fairly empty.
 The question is now, if cache full = must hypothetical swap used?
 ok, im glad to see your result.

No, high utilization of file system cache will not cause any swapping -
file system caching uses whatever is spare.  If there's nothing, no
caching.  AFAIU.

I can confirm what you're seeing about the cache being used up - I
saw that too.  My cache-number only went to about 485000, and free only
down to 6000-7000.  My webserver also has 1Gb RAM, but it does a few
more things.

Does your free memory actually go as low as 0?  I don't think this is
about the file system cache - I know you said no limits, but what do
you have for post_max_size and upload_max_size ?  I'm using 1200M for
both for this test.


/Per Jessen, Zürich



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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Jim Lucas

Tom wrote:

Hi,

on a linux system (Suese 10.2) with 1 GB memory its not possible to upload 
via http a  1 Gb File. Thats no limit problem  on my php config. i can look 
the mem stats when uploading and the growing tmp file. If the temp file has 
900 MB, Main Memory free is 0 and the script aborts and php deletes the tmp 
file.


Why don't php use swap memory ?

Greets Tom 






After reading this thread, I would like to add my thoughts.

What Apache starts, it reads the PHP memory limits in to the running Apache 
process.  When you try and upload a file, it is a straight HTTP upload.  PHP 
plays no part in the actual upload, except for the upload limits set in place 
by the php settings found in the php.ini or other Apache config files.  Now, 
Apache actually handles the Upload.  Once the file has been received 
completely, Apache then passes the file and process running to PHP.


I have never seen a case where Apache has stored the file on the file system. 
 In my past experience it has always held the file in memory, therefor 
limited to the max physical memory that was install, minus a little for other 
things.


I have worked on Debian (potato|woody|sarge), Redhat 5.0 - 9, Fedora 1 - 7, 
OpenBSD 3.6-current, and older versions of NetBSD and FreeBSD.


I have also frequented a number of friends installs and I have never seen 
uploads happen any other way.  Nor have I heard of uploads happening any other 
way.


Just my 2cents :)

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Re: [PHP] php File upload

2008-08-07 Thread Luke
Tom's machine only has 1 GB of physical memory doesn't it? Could that be the
problem?

2008/8/7 Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Tom wrote:

 Hi,

 on a linux system (Suese 10.2) with 1 GB memory its not possible to upload
 via http a  1 Gb File. Thats no limit problem  on my php config. i can look
 the mem stats when uploading and the growing tmp file. If the temp file has
 900 MB, Main Memory free is 0 and the script aborts and php deletes the tmp
 file.

 Why don't php use swap memory ?

 Greets Tom



 After reading this thread, I would like to add my thoughts.

 What Apache starts, it reads the PHP memory limits in to the running Apache
 process.  When you try and upload a file, it is a straight HTTP upload.  PHP
 plays no part in the actual upload, except for the upload limits set in
 place by the php settings found in the php.ini or other Apache config files.
  Now, Apache actually handles the Upload.  Once the file has been received
 completely, Apache then passes the file and process running to PHP.

 I have never seen a case where Apache has stored the file on the file
 system.  In my past experience it has always held the file in memory,
 therefor limited to the max physical memory that was install, minus a little
 for other things.

 I have worked on Debian (potato|woody|sarge), Redhat 5.0 - 9, Fedora 1 -
 7, OpenBSD 3.6-current, and older versions of NetBSD and FreeBSD.

 I have also frequented a number of friends installs and I have never seen
 uploads happen any other way.  Nor have I heard of uploads happening any
 other way.

 Just my 2cents :)

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 Jim Lucas

   Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness,
   and some have greatness thrust upon them.

 Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V
by William Shakespeare



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