Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes
At 9:59 AM -0400 3/10/09, Gary wrote: Thanks again for all the help. I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns). I mixed the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, works fine. Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 page declarations along with an extra set of and tags was playing havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php page and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file. I did get some strange results in that all of the were highlighted after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct. So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html tags and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3) Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a page of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the server...is this normal? Gary: If you want to see how this all plays out in a demo, try this: http://sperling.com/examples/include-demo/ Go through the complete demo and you'll see how the header/footer/menu include things work. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Gary wrote: > Jochem > > Thanks for your reply, the project seven and DW was just for a point of > information, same as if you have an issue with a computer you generally > find > it a good idea to list your operating system and other pertinent facts. What Jochem told is true, IDEs like DW is good for mainly designers but could be a feeder for a matured man (coder). For IDE I support using something like Netbeans PDT. > > I had coded the scripts and files by hand. The way you asked about the files you included reflects you have some basic lack of understanding of the way they should look like /organized(not intended any slightest offense). But this discussion would open your eyes. The file where your include other files is rendered as a single HTML file so, think in that way, it would be just easy to understand. > > > The file was not on the server and it did not point back to my hard drive, > it was hand coded and not uploaded to the server, which is why it was > curious. Yes this curiosity is really helpful. As I mentioned about the intrusion probability this way. Try collecting the ZCE exam Guide and you can study the 'Security' Chapter there. > > > "Jochem Maas" wrote in message > news:49b6fddd.20...@iamjochem.com... > > Gary schreef: > >> I'm sorry you were not able to understand the questions, but thank you > >> for > >> trying. > > > > a few tips: > > > > 1. don't assume people know what 'projectseven PMM' > > 2. it's doubtful anyone worth their salt on this list uses or > > knows much about a mind-bending, soul-destroyer like DreamWeaver. > > 3. try your hand at building a page by hand using a simple text editor > > and copious ammounts of searching/reading about HTML structure ... doing > > it this way will help you to understand what goes wrong and why, when > > DW tries to 'help you'. > > > > > > > >> The path to the include is not an absolute path. > > > > then it is on the server, somewhere on your php include_path. > > > >> "Jochem Maas" wrote in message > >> news:49b6b6d8.7050...@iamjochem.com... > >>> Gary schreef: > Thanks again for all the help. > > I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns). I > mixed > the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library > item, > works fine. Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having > 2 > page > declarations along with an extra set of and tags was > playing > havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a > php > page > and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations > and > tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file. > > I did get some strange results in that all of the were > highlighted > after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct. > > So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html > tags > and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3) > >>> I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess > >>> and so "no it's not the best way" > >>> > Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a > page > of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the > server...is > this normal? > > >>> it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g. > >>> file://C:/path/to/file.txt, > >>> that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/ >>> WYSIWYG-PITA-editor here>. > >>> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
RE: [PHP] More PHP Includes
-Original Message- From: Gary [mailto:gwp...@ptd.net] Sent: 11 March 2009 00:17 To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes >Jochem > >Thanks for your reply, the project seven and DW was just for a point of >information, same as if you have an issue with a computer you generally find >it a good idea to list your operating system and other pertinent facts. >I had coded the scripts and files by hand. >The file was not on the server and it did not point back to my hard drive, >it was hand coded and not uploaded to the server, which is why it was >curious. The way I sometimes go about making a website is to fully code up the entire first page with a design I would like. Menus/headers/footers/layout and all. Then, when I'm happy with it, I cut it up into componant parts which I then include back in. This way there is no chance of having repeated tags, and everything is neatly organised. By the time you've cut it up, your index.php file will likely have nothing more than a bunch of includes and possibly the text specific to the index page. Don't think that each included file needs to work on its own. It doesn't matter if the included file doesn't open a tag if the page calling it has opened the tag already (such as ). I've had an include that formed part of a table, with the table created by a different included file, and closed by yet another. "Jochem Maas" wrote in message news:49b6fddd.20...@iamjochem.com... > Gary schreef: >> I'm sorry you were not able to understand the questions, but thank you >> for >> trying. > > a few tips: > > 1. don't assume people know what 'projectseven PMM' > 2. it's doubtful anyone worth their salt on this list uses or > knows much about a mind-bending, soul-destroyer like DreamWeaver. > 3. try your hand at building a page by hand using a simple text editor > and copious ammounts of searching/reading about HTML structure ... doing > it this way will help you to understand what goes wrong and why, when > DW tries to 'help you'. > > > >> The path to the include is not an absolute path. > > then it is on the server, somewhere on your php include_path. > >> "Jochem Maas" wrote in message >> news:49b6b6d8.7050...@iamjochem.com... >>> Gary schreef: >>>> Thanks again for all the help. >>>> >>>> I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns). I >>>> mixed >>>> the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library >>>> item, >>>> works fine. Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 >>>> page >>>> declarations along with an extra set of and tags was >>>> playing >>>> havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php >>>> page >>>> and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and >>>> tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file. >>>> >>>> I did get some strange results in that all of the were >>>> highlighted >>>> after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct. >>>> >>>> So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html >>>> tags >>>> and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3) >>> I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess >>> and so "no it's not the best way" >>> >>>> Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a >>>> page >>>> of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the >>>> server...is >>>> this normal? >>>> >>> it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g. >>> file://C:/path/to/file.txt, >>> that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/>> WYSIWYG-PITA-editor here>. >>> >>>> >> >> >> > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes
Jochem Thanks for your reply, the project seven and DW was just for a point of information, same as if you have an issue with a computer you generally find it a good idea to list your operating system and other pertinent facts. I had coded the scripts and files by hand. The file was not on the server and it did not point back to my hard drive, it was hand coded and not uploaded to the server, which is why it was curious. "Jochem Maas" wrote in message news:49b6fddd.20...@iamjochem.com... > Gary schreef: >> I'm sorry you were not able to understand the questions, but thank you >> for >> trying. > > a few tips: > > 1. don't assume people know what 'projectseven PMM' > 2. it's doubtful anyone worth their salt on this list uses or > knows much about a mind-bending, soul-destroyer like DreamWeaver. > 3. try your hand at building a page by hand using a simple text editor > and copious ammounts of searching/reading about HTML structure ... doing > it this way will help you to understand what goes wrong and why, when > DW tries to 'help you'. > > > >> The path to the include is not an absolute path. > > then it is on the server, somewhere on your php include_path. > >> "Jochem Maas" wrote in message >> news:49b6b6d8.7050...@iamjochem.com... >>> Gary schreef: Thanks again for all the help. I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns). I mixed the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, works fine. Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 page declarations along with an extra set of and tags was playing havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php page and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file. I did get some strange results in that all of the were highlighted after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct. So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html tags and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3) >>> I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess >>> and so "no it's not the best way" >>> Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a page of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the server...is this normal? >>> it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g. >>> file://C:/path/to/file.txt, >>> that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/>> WYSIWYG-PITA-editor here>. >>> >> >> >> > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes
Gary schreef: > I'm sorry you were not able to understand the questions, but thank you for > trying. a few tips: 1. don't assume people know what 'projectseven PMM' 2. it's doubtful anyone worth their salt on this list uses or knows much about a mind-bending, soul-destroyer like DreamWeaver. 3. try your hand at building a page by hand using a simple text editor and copious ammounts of searching/reading about HTML structure ... doing it this way will help you to understand what goes wrong and why, when DW tries to 'help you'. > The path to the include is not an absolute path. then it is on the server, somewhere on your php include_path. > "Jochem Maas" wrote in message > news:49b6b6d8.7050...@iamjochem.com... >> Gary schreef: >>> Thanks again for all the help. >>> >>> I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns). I >>> mixed >>> the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, >>> works fine. Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 >>> page >>> declarations along with an extra set of and tags was >>> playing >>> havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php >>> page >>> and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and >>> tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file. >>> >>> I did get some strange results in that all of the were highlighted >>> after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct. >>> >>> So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html >>> tags >>> and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3) >> I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess >> and so "no it's not the best way" >> >>> Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a >>> page >>> of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the >>> server...is >>> this normal? >>> >> it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g. >> file://C:/path/to/file.txt, >> that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/> WYSIWYG-PITA-editor here>. >> >>> > > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes
I'm sorry you were not able to understand the questions, but thank you for trying. The path to the include is not an absolute path. "Jochem Maas" wrote in message news:49b6b6d8.7050...@iamjochem.com... > Gary schreef: >> Thanks again for all the help. >> >> I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns). I >> mixed >> the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, >> works fine. Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 >> page >> declarations along with an extra set of and tags was >> playing >> havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php >> page >> and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and >> tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file. >> >> I did get some strange results in that all of the were highlighted >> after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct. >> >> So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html >> tags >> and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3) > > I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess > and so "no it's not the best way" > >> Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a >> page >> of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the >> server...is >> this normal? >> > > it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g. > file://C:/path/to/file.txt, > that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/ WYSIWYG-PITA-editor here>. > >> >> > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Gary wrote: > Thanks again for all the help. > > I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns). I mixed > the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, > works fine. Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 > page > declarations along with an extra set of and tags was playing > havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php > page > and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and > tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file. > > I did get some strange results in that all of the were highlighted > after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct. > > So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html tags > and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3) If you think of the whole layout you know how to place the tags. that is there cant be twotags or two tags etc. So, it should be maintained well, that tags dont break and the html gets valid and you do have working and expected output. > > > Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a page > of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the > server...is > this normal? As mentioned, for security reasons its not wise to include files without .php extentions. you should include like myincludefile.inc.php or sometext.txt.php etc. As you said you are allowing the txt file from outside the server, it is another security risk as well. allow_url_fopen lets this to open others file. But lets say the file is at the hand of a bad guy, and he modifies that with malicious code to intrude into your server. Please read php Security issues to know about them in details. CSRF, XSS, ClickJacking, Phishing, Code-injections, SQL injections etc etc etc. http://shiflett.org/ for PHP Web Security issues is a must read. also http://phpsec.org > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
Re: [PHP] More PHP Includes
Gary schreef: > Thanks again for all the help. > > I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns). I mixed > the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, > works fine. Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 page > declarations along with an extra set of and tags was playing > havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php page > and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and > tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file. > > I did get some strange results in that all of the were highlighted > after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct. > > So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html tags > and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3) I'm quite sure I don't understand any of that ... so I'd hazard a guess and so "no it's not the best way" > Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a page > of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the server...is > this normal? > it's probably pointing to a file on your machine, e.g. file://C:/path/to/file.txt, that's something you see quite often with DW/FrontPage/. > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] More PHP Includes
Thanks again for all the help. I created a simple page of all includes (header, menu, 3 columns). I mixed the file types up. The menu (projectseven PMM) I saved as a library item, works fine. Had an HTML file in there, but I am guessing that having 2 page declarations along with an extra set of and tags was playing havoc with the code, so I removed them. Same thing when I created a php page and saved it as filename.inc.php, so I removed all the declarations and tags, again seems to work fine. Also included a simple .txt file. I did get some strange results in that all of the were highlighted after the menu, and I had to remove and insert again to correct. So is this the best way, to create a php page, remove all of the html tags and page declarations and name it filename.inc.php? (I'm using DW CS3) Also, something I do not understand, I included a small txt file in a page of a customer and it shows fine, however this file is not on the server...is this normal? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
