RE: [PHP] something weird is going on...

2002-03-20 Thread Kevin Stone

Could be a browser cache issue.  Open just the image in the browser
(http://kulchitski.com/problem/images/bottomcell_bg.gif) and hit
Ctrl+Refresh.  Go back to the page and see if it doesn't show up.

Attractive looking page by the way.  :)

-Kevin

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From: Vlad Kulchitski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:28 PM
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Subject: [PHP] something weird is going on...


Sorry bringing Netscape issue up again but I seem to have found
something...

Here's the issue, I am talking about image-background in table cell
td/td... the problem is that one of the cells shows background, one
of them does... the index.html file attached...

This cells shows background:

TD width=100% background=images/topcell_bg.gifnbsp;/TD

This doesn't:

TD width=100% background=images/bottomcell_bg.gifnbsp;/TD

NOTE: the weird thing is that when I change the image name the the one
on the first cell where it works, it shows the image, but when I change
it back to  bottomcell_bg.gif it doesn't... I went to change GIF files
and they have the same property, both GIF(indexed colour)...

And to illustrate the problem, here's the file: 
http://kulchitski.com/problem/

Vlad




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Re: [PHP] something weird is going on...

2002-03-20 Thread heinisch

At 20.03.2002  16:28, you wrote:

Sorry bringing Netscape issue up again but I seem to have found
something...
snip
And to illustrate the problem, here's the file:
http://kulchitski.com/problem/
Hi Val,
for me it looks OK, no fault to see. (NS405,451,475)
I´d suggest, that you enclose your width and height values
in parentesis , so that they look height=100 width=200
also all other values. I had problems with the NS46 family on
this.
Also the vals topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0
added to the body tag, make your left side notes look more real, as ther´s 
a cutted
left side.
HTH Oliver 


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Re: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-07 Thread Chris Anderson

So how is that weird?
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[PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread David OBrien

I just installed a fresh RH 7.1 server with compiled apache and php 4.0.6


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[PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread David OBrien

Sorry...

I just installed a fresh RH 7.1 server with compiled apache 1.3.16 and php 
4.0.6
if I make a change on a page it doesn't show


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RE: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread scott [gts]

check the browser cache settings.

for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen
has the default option set to cache everything and never 
look for updates


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 Sorry...
 
 I just installed a fresh RH 7.1 server with compiled apache 1.3.16 and php 
 4.0.6
 if I make a change on a page it doesn't show
 
 
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Re: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread David OBrien

Half the message didn't get sent ...

If I manually do a apachectl restart the page updates with the correct 
changes on it
the other 3 apache / php servers I have all work correctly just this one on 
7.1 the rest are 6.2 redhat installs.
-Dave


At 02:04 PM 7/6/2001 -0400, David OBrien wrote:
Sorry...

I just installed a fresh RH 7.1 server with compiled apache 1.3.16 and php 
4.0.6
if I make a change on a page it doesn't show


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Re: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread Inércia Sensorial

 for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen
 has the default option set to cache everything and never
 look for updates

   Connection speed. Cached pages load faster

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RE: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread scott [gts]

maybe it's just me, but caches drive me nuts...

i know... but IMO, i'll take a slight performance
hit any day to make sure i get the most recent page...

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 From: Inércia Sensorial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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  for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen
  has the default option set to cache everything and never
  look for updates

Connection speed. Cached pages load faster


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Re: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread Inércia Sensorial

  Me too. I always put 'check for new versions' or 'don´t cache' or similar.
While I am aware that cached pages doesn't perform well with dinamic pages,
the browser developers are also aware that what the user want is to see the
page.

  If you ask any average user what is his preference 'Load faster or don't
cache?'... he will probaly answer 'load faster', IF he knows what the hell a
cached page is...

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 maybe it's just me, but caches drive me nuts...

 i know... but IMO, i'll take a slight performance
 hit any day to make sure i get the most recent page...

  -Original Message-
  From: Inércia Sensorial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird
 
   for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen
   has the default option set to cache everything and never
   look for updates
 
 Connection speed. Cached pages load faster




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Re: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread Kevin Pratt

Why not just make all your pages force a no cache or a refresh?

Kevin
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Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird


   Me too. I always put 'check for new versions' or 'don´t cache' or
similar.
 While I am aware that cached pages doesn't perform well with dinamic
pages,
 the browser developers are also aware that what the user want is to see
the
 page.

   If you ask any average user what is his preference 'Load faster or don't
 cache?'... he will probaly answer 'load faster', IF he knows what the hell
a
 cached page is...

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 scott [gts] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  maybe it's just me, but caches drive me nuts...
 
  i know... but IMO, i'll take a slight performance
  hit any day to make sure i get the most recent page...
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Inércia Sensorial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird
  
for some bizarre reason, almost every browser i've seen
has the default option set to cache everything and never
look for updates
  
  Connection speed. Cached pages load faster
 



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Re: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread Inércia Sensorial

  Kevin, we were talking about cache in an user point of view...

  :-D



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Re: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread Kevin Pratt

okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about something
that can be changed .

:)

and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I completely
agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting the
old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the country
and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache..


Have fun!
Kevin
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   Kevin, we were talking about cache in an user point of view...

   :-D



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Re: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread Inércia Sensorial

  Me too. Once I changed browser and took me days to find out why some pages
weren´t changing :-)

  Does the header(); function returns some kind of true or false? Maybe we
could tell users to don´t cache to show all dynamic stuff. I heard somewhere
(not sure about this) that Refresh on meta and similar techniques doesn't
always work... (well, like everything! :))

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 okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about
something
 that can be changed .

 :)

 and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I
completely
 agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting
the
 old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the country
 and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache..


 Have fun!
 Kevin



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RE: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread scott [gts]

even when i had 28.8, i'd always turn the cache off
... a cache isnt a feature, it's a bug. :)

i wish everybody did the same... i get calls every once
in a while from clients asking why isnt our page updated
or why doesnt this work 9 times out of 10,
it's their browsers showing them outdated information.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Pratt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird
 
 okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about something
 that can be changed .
 
 :)
 
 and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I completely
 agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting the
 old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the country
 and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache..
 
 Have fun!
 Kevin

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Re: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread Kevin Pratt

dunno... I just make all my pages force a reload for everyone :)

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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird


   Me too. Once I changed browser and took me days to find out why some
pages
 weren´t changing :-)

   Does the header(); function returns some kind of true or false? Maybe we
 could tell users to don´t cache to show all dynamic stuff. I heard
somewhere
 (not sure about this) that Refresh on meta and similar techniques doesn't
 always work... (well, like everything! :))

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 Kevin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 00a901c10659$00c74580$0300a8c0@ouelong">news:00a901c10659$00c74580$0300a8c0@ouelong...
  okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about
 something
  that can be changed .
 
  :)
 
  and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I
 completely
  agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting
 the
  old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the
country
  and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache..
 
 
  Have fun!
  Kevin



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RE: [PHP] Something weird

2001-07-06 Thread PHPBeginner.com

Gezz...

hope you use a web mail or something for this list.
Otherwise all these emails on 26.4 (what a strange number) would take ages
to download in cases like when you are coming back from a vacation or was
too busy last week

-maxim maletsky




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Subject: Re: [PHP] Something weird


okie :) just thought it was funny that everybody is talking about something
that can be changed .

:)

and it was also a little bit of a shot at everybody's rants... I completely
agree that taking the small performance hit is much better than getting the
old version of a site... and I can say this because I live in the country
and only get 26.4k so I should really want to have a cache..


Have fun!
Kevin
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   Kevin, we were talking about cache in an user point of view...

   :-D



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