Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-15 Thread Stuart Dallas
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Daniel Brown  wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 18:37, Robert Cummings 
> wrote:
> >
> > Damn... here I thought the hint was-- it begins with "tme". If only I had
> > caught that abso-bloody-lutely embodied the principle, then I could have
> > back-frickin-tracked from the principle, to the meaning, to the word
> itself.
> > That would have been so much more efficient... NOT!
>
> Have I told you lately you can bite me?


Haven't you been told before that offers of and requests for services of a
personal nature should be kept off the list!!

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Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-15 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 20:04, Stuart Dallas  wrote:
>
> Haven't you been told before that offers of and requests for services of a
> personal nature should be kept off the list!!

I don't believe so, but then - if I had - I would've ignored the
order just as now.

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Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-15 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 18:37, Robert Cummings  wrote:
>
> Damn... here I thought the hint was-- it begins with "tme". If only I had
> caught that abso-bloody-lutely embodied the principle, then I could have
> back-frickin-tracked from the principle, to the meaning, to the word itself.
> That would have been so much more efficient... NOT!

Have I told you lately you can bite me?

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Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-15 Thread Robert Cummings

On 11-07-15 04:21 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 16:04, Ashley Sheridan  
wrote:



I'm still not getting it, and the only dictionary I have about is some
tiny pocket one I've had since I was 9!


 The word was 'tmesis', which is a linguistic phenomenon in which
words or phrases have other words or phrases thrown into the mix.  The
hint to which I believe George referred was Richard's
"abso-bloody-lutely" statement, which is a perfect example of tmesis.


Damn... here I thought the hint was-- it begins with "tme". If only I 
had caught that abso-bloody-lutely embodied the principle, then I could 
have back-frickin-tracked from the principle, to the meaning, to the 
word itself. That would have been so much more efficient... NOT!


:)

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-15 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 16:04, Ashley Sheridan  
wrote:
>
>
> I'm still not getting it, and the only dictionary I have about is some
> tiny pocket one I've had since I was 9!

The word was 'tmesis', which is a linguistic phenomenon in which
words or phrases have other words or phrases thrown into the mix.  The
hint to which I believe George referred was Richard's
"abso-bloody-lutely" statement, which is a perfect example of tmesis.

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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-15 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 10:42 +0100, Richard Quadling wrote:

> On 15 July 2011 01:42, Micky Hulse  wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:19 PM, George Langley  
> > wrote:
> >> He gave you a beautiful hint:
> >
> > :: slaps self on forehead ::
> >
> > I should've known!!! :D
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Micky
> 
> 
> He he!
> 
> Well done. It's a great word. My wife and I really didn't think
> anything started with "tme". I have yet to be in a position to use it
> in normal conversation.
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I'm still not getting it, and the only dictionary I have about is some
tiny pocket one I've had since I was 9!

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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-15 Thread Richard Quadling
On 15 July 2011 01:42, Micky Hulse  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:19 PM, George Langley  
> wrote:
>> He gave you a beautiful hint:
>
> :: slaps self on forehead ::
>
> I should've known!!! :D
>
> Thanks!
> Micky


He he!

Well done. It's a great word. My wife and I really didn't think
anything started with "tme". I have yet to be in a position to use it
in normal conversation.

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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-14 Thread Micky Hulse
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:19 PM, George Langley  wrote:
> He gave you a beautiful hint:

:: slaps self on forehead ::

I should've known!!! :D

Thanks!
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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-14 Thread George Langley
- Original Message -
From: Micky Hulse 

> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Richard Quadling 
>  wrote:
> > My daughter (6 or 7 at the time) came up with T, M and E. I was
> > abso-bloody-lutely amazed she managed to find a word starting 
> with T,
> > M and E.
> 
> What was the word?
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He gave you a beautiful hint:

tmesis |təˈmēsis|
noun ( pl. -ses |-sēz|)
the separation of parts of a compound word by an intervening word or words, 
heard mainly in informal speech (e.g., a whole nother story; shove it back 
any-old-where in the pile).
ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from Greek tmēsis ‘cutting,’ from temnein ‘to cut.’

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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-14 Thread Micky Hulse
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Richard Quadling  wrote:
> My daughter (6 or 7 at the time) came up with T, M and E. I was
> abso-bloody-lutely amazed she managed to find a word starting with T,
> M and E.

What was the word?

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Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-14 Thread George Langley
On 2011-07-14, at 4:36 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

> 
> That's a massive pet hate of mine, along with using here/hear in the wrong 
> way and those who have no idea of the difference between "there", "their" & 
> "they're". Makes me want to beat them upside the head with a dictionary :)

Mine are it's and its (Remember: it's its!), people who say "people 
that" (It should be "People WHO!") and the complete lack of regard to plural 
versus singular verbs ("There's lots?" "No, there ARE lots of examples of that 
out there!").
As far as the original list:

http://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#PHP_sucks_because:

it's just a tongue-in-cheek way to point out inconsistencies in the various 
languages. However, is kind of out-dated, referring to PHP 4 and CSS 2, so am 
wondering how many of the entries have been rectified? (For instance, CSS 3 
does have multiple background images.) As well, I suspect that some of them may 
actually make sense if analyzed as to why they are that way, instead of how the 
author has grouped them.


George Langley
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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-14 Thread Richard Quadling
> On 14 July 2011 11:36, Ashley Sheridan  wrote:
> Makes me want to beat them upside the head with a dictionary :)

In our house, our Big Red Book _IS_ a massive Oxford Dictionary.

We play a game with the kids. Think of 3 random letters and find a
word starting with it.

My daughter (6 or 7 at the time) came up with T, M and E. I was
abso-bloody-lutely amazed she managed to find a word starting with T,
M and E.

Richard.

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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-14 Thread Richard Quadling
On 14 July 2011 11:36, Ashley Sheridan  wrote:
> That's a massive pet hate of mine, along with using here/hear in the wrong 
> way and those who have no idea of the difference between "there", "their" & 
> "they're". Makes me want to beat them upside the head with a dictionary :)
> Thanks,
> Ash

Its all a matter of perspective isnt it? ;-) (here fishy fishy)

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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-14 Thread Ashley Sheridan



>Particularly as it's written by a fathead who thinks that "lose" is
>spelt "loose".
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That's a massive pet hate of mine, along with using here/hear in the wrong way 
and those who have no idea of the difference between "there", "their" & 
"they're". Makes me want to beat them upside the head with a dictionary :)
Thanks,
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Re: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-14 Thread Tim Streater
On 14 Jul 2011 at 01:59, Lester Caine  wrote: 

> Daevid Vincent wrote:
>> (at the risk of starting another $h!t storm like the last time)
>>
>> http://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#PHP_sucks_because:
>
> Perhaps when they get around to checking the facts ... most of the content
> will
> be deleted? A number of the -ve's I'd personally flag as +ve's and complain if
> anybody changed them ...
> Generally I'd say the whole page simply sucks :)

Particularly as it's written by a fathead who thinks that "lose" is spelt 
"loose".

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RE: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-13 Thread Alex Nikitin
I'm actually interested in finding out if there are any languages that don't
suck in any way... I know and have programmed in about 29, i have yet to
find a language that makes 100% sense and i have no complaints about.
However i still choose PHP over many, many other languages and i implement
php apis because its such an easy to learn, versatile, and as advanced as
you want to make it language; i mean i've written vfat in php for fun, as
well as self-documenting or self-correcting libraries with reflection,
advanced sorting algorithms (like a pimped radix sort that did positive, and
negative integers and floats), and yet teach people how to write stuff in
php in minutes, people never exposed to programming...

In short, PHP does suck, but so do all languages, so when compared, php
actually doesn't suck anywhere near as much as some other oftenly used
languages.

Anyways, just my $.02

With Regards...

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On Jul 13, 2011 9:15 PM, "Florian Müller"  wrote:


RE: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-13 Thread Florian Müller

Well . do you have any hobbies or such?
I think if you like it to complain about languages sucking and so on, please do 
NOT spam this mailing list with this really USELESS content.
There are some people out there who are using these languages for some good 
reasons, and I guess they give a f*ck on somebody telling that all languages 
suxx.
Please ask somebody for a hobby.

> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:59:27 +0100
> From: les...@lsces.co.uk
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...
> 
> Daevid Vincent wrote:
> > (at the risk of starting another $h!t storm like the last time)
> >
> > http://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#PHP_sucks_because:
> 
> Perhaps when they get around to checking the facts ... most of the content 
> will 
> be deleted? A number of the -ve's I'd personally flag as +ve's and complain 
> if 
> anybody changed them ...
> Generally I'd say the whole page simply sucks :)
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Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-13 Thread Lester Caine

Daevid Vincent wrote:

(at the risk of starting another $h!t storm like the last time)

http://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#PHP_sucks_because:


Perhaps when they get around to checking the facts ... most of the content will 
be deleted? A number of the -ve's I'd personally flag as +ve's and complain if 
anybody changed them ...

Generally I'd say the whole page simply sucks :)

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Re: [PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-13 Thread Micky Hulse
Under the CSS section:

No way to modularize or programmatically generate lengths. Can't say:
{ width:50% - 2px; }

That's so true!! I wish I could do the above...

Oh, and why is the PHP section so damned long?!?

Good read, thanks. :)

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[PHP] Your language sucks because...

2011-07-13 Thread Daevid Vincent
(at the risk of starting another $h!t storm like the last time)
 
http://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#PHP_sucks_because:
 
;-)