Re: [PHP] Most current non-beta version, and bcc

2002-11-10 Thread Jill S
Thanks to everyone who kindly responded with 
their views regarding whether or not PHP v.4.2.3.
is a beta version or not a beta version.

Because the opinions offered were so adamant and 
so contradictory, I contacted Zend.   I just received
the reply (below)...

  Hi Jill,  Nice talking with you the other day and thanks 
  for your follow-up email.  PHP v. 4.2.3 is definitely not 
  a beta version. I checked with Zev Suraski who is one 
  of the developers of the Zend engine, the scripting 
  language that powers PHP.




At 09:16 PM 11/7/02 -0700, you wrote:
At 02:38 PM 11/7/02 -0600, Jill S wrote:
so again I'll ask - Are the  4.2.3 downloads at the top of the
page at: http://www.php.net/downloads/  beta versions or
non-beta versions?

4.2.3 is currently the latest stable released version of PHP.  Yes, that 
means NOT BETA.

Anything that makes it to the downloads page is stable code.


4.3.0 should be out soon, but is not yet considered stable.  It has also 
passed the BETA state and is in its second pre-release final testing.


If you want to get it you have to look at snaps.php.net or the CVS 
server.  Code from these sources is under active development and at any 
given time may not even compile. (Not that it happens often.) I can 
understand why a hosting provider might not want to run them.  On the other 
hand I switched to PHP4 at Beta 2 and never looked back.

Rick


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Re: [PHP] Most current non-beta version, and bcc

2002-11-10 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Who in the world told you that 4.2.3 was beta?

On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Jill S wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who kindly responded with
 their views regarding whether or not PHP v.4.2.3.
 is a beta version or not a beta version.

 Because the opinions offered were so adamant and
 so contradictory, I contacted Zend.   I just received
 the reply (below)...

   Hi Jill,  Nice talking with you the other day and thanks
   for your follow-up email.  PHP v. 4.2.3 is definitely not
   a beta version. I checked with Zev Suraski who is one
   of the developers of the Zend engine, the scripting
   language that powers PHP.

 


 At 09:16 PM 11/7/02 -0700, you wrote:
 At 02:38 PM 11/7/02 -0600, Jill S wrote:
 so again I'll ask - Are the  4.2.3 downloads at the top of the
 page at: http://www.php.net/downloads/  beta versions or
 non-beta versions?
 
 4.2.3 is currently the latest stable released version of PHP.  Yes, that
 means NOT BETA.
 
 Anything that makes it to the downloads page is stable code.
 
 
 4.3.0 should be out soon, but is not yet considered stable.  It has also
 passed the BETA state and is in its second pre-release final testing.
 
 
 If you want to get it you have to look at snaps.php.net or the CVS
 server.  Code from these sources is under active development and at any
 given time may not even compile. (Not that it happens often.) I can
 understand why a hosting provider might not want to run them.  On the other
 hand I switched to PHP4 at Beta 2 and never looked back.
 
 Rick


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RE: [PHP] Most current non-beta version, and bcc

2002-11-08 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]
 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Widmer [mailto:php3;developersdesk.com]
 Sent: 08 November 2002 04:16
 To: Jill S; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Most current non-beta version, and bcc
 
 
 At 02:38 PM 11/7/02 -0600, Jill S wrote:
 so again I'll ask - Are the  4.2.3 downloads at the top of the
 page at: http://www.php.net/downloads/  beta versions or
 non-beta versions?
 
 4.2.3 is currently the latest stable released version of PHP. 
  Yes, that 
 means NOT BETA.
 
 Anything that makes it to the downloads page is stable code.
 
 
 4.3.0 should be out soon, but is not yet considered stable.  
 It has also 
 passed the BETA state and is in its second pre-release final testing.

Nope, I'd still class that as BETA-testing.  Actually, I might even call it
pre-BETA!

When they actually get around to making Release Candidates available (as in
4.3.0RC1), I'd call that real BETA testing.

I wonder how the members of the PHP development group themselves would class
these?

Cheers!

Mike

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Re: [PHP] Most current non-beta version, and bcc

2002-11-07 Thread Ernest E Vogelsinger
At 20:48 07.11.2002, Jill S said:
[snip]
never install a beta version and that
http://www.php.net/downloads/ - Latest version of PHP
Complete Source Code
* PHP 4.2.3 (tar.bz2) [2,694Kb] - 6 September 2002
  md5: a0c7531f3d53a7736742c780f72a0f41
* PHP 4.2.3 (tar.gz) [3,334Kb] - 6 September 2002
  md5: 2a4a963d79d97ea2725c860c77e908a2
are betas.
He also referred me to a blurb on the php.net Home page
reading:

   PHP 4.3.0pre2 Released
   http://qa.php.net/
   [27-Oct-2002] PHP 4.3.0pre2 is available for download. 
   This is the second pre-release version and incorporates a 
   large number of bug fixes since the first pre-release. 
  Still, to help us catch as many bugs as possible, please
  download it and start testing.

... So, my questions are - Is the tech support guy correct?

and Is there a workaround for sending a bcc using mail()
with v.4.1.2?

On http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mail.php there is an interesting
article in the user notes - I paste it here for convenience, his solution
should solve your problems:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
16-Aug-2002 05:46 

If you need to send an e-mail with an html content and the same e-mail have
Bcc headers.
Place the Bcc (and why not also Cc) at the end of your additional headers.
Otherwise, people receiving the email in copy may have the html code in
their screen. The one who are designed as main recipient will not have this
problem.

Explanation :
=
The e-mail headers are broken when the PHP parser delete the Bcc line
(Removed cause hidden, obvious !).

Example :
===

This is bad

$header = From: \.addslashes($sender_name).\ .$sender_email.\r\n;
$header .= Reply-To: .$sender_email.\r\n;
$header .= Cc: .$other_email.\r\n;
$header .= Bcc: .$another_email.\r\n;
$header .= MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n;
$header .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\r\n;
$header .= X-Priority: 1\r\n;
$header .= X-Mailer: PHP / .phpversion().\r\n;

The following is good

$header = From: \.addslashes($sender_name).\ .$sender_email.\r\n;
$header .= Reply-To: .$sender_email.\r\n;
$header .= MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n;
$header .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\r\n;
$header .= X-Priority: 1\r\n;
$header .= X-Mailer: PHP / .phpversion().\r\n;
$header .= Cc: .$other_email.\r\n;
$header .= Bcc: .$another_email.\r\n;

Sorry for my bad english. :-)

Redy Ramamonjisoa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [PHP] Most current non-beta version, and bcc

2002-11-07 Thread Jill S
:-(  Nope, thanks.  I had tried that before posting to the list
but unfortunately it doesn't work - at least when using v.v.4.1.2,
so again I'll ask - Are the  4.2.3 downloads at the top of the 
page at: http://www.php.net/downloads/  beta versions or
non-beta versions?

Thanks,
Jill


At 08:54 PM 11/7/02 +0100, you wrote:
At 20:48 07.11.2002, Jill S said:
[snip]
never install a beta version and that
http://www.php.net/downloads/ - Latest version of PHP
Complete Source Code
* PHP 4.2.3 (tar.bz2) [2,694Kb] - 6 September 2002
  md5: a0c7531f3d53a7736742c780f72a0f41
* PHP 4.2.3 (tar.gz) [3,334Kb] - 6 September 2002
  md5: 2a4a963d79d97ea2725c860c77e908a2
are betas.
He also referred me to a blurb on the php.net Home page
reading:

   PHP 4.3.0pre2 Released
   http://qa.php.net/
   [27-Oct-2002] PHP 4.3.0pre2 is available for download. 
   This is the second pre-release version and incorporates a 
   large number of bug fixes since the first pre-release. 
  Still, to help us catch as many bugs as possible, please
  download it and start testing.

... So, my questions are - Is the tech support guy correct?

and Is there a workaround for sending a bcc using mail()
with v.4.1.2?

On http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mail.php there is an interesting
article in the user notes - I paste it here for convenience, his solution
should solve your problems:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
16-Aug-2002 05:46 

If you need to send an e-mail with an html content and the same e-mail have
Bcc headers.
Place the Bcc (and why not also Cc) at the end of your additional headers.
Otherwise, people receiving the email in copy may have the html code in
their screen. The one who are designed as main recipient will not have this
problem.

Explanation :
=
The e-mail headers are broken when the PHP parser delete the Bcc line
(Removed cause hidden, obvious !).

Example :
===

This is bad

$header = From: \.addslashes($sender_name).\ .$sender_email.\r\n;
$header .= Reply-To: .$sender_email.\r\n;
$header .= Cc: .$other_email.\r\n;
$header .= Bcc: .$another_email.\r\n;
$header .= MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n;
$header .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\r\n;
$header .= X-Priority: 1\r\n;
$header .= X-Mailer: PHP / .phpversion().\r\n;

The following is good

$header = From: \.addslashes($sender_name).\ .$sender_email.\r\n;
$header .= Reply-To: .$sender_email.\r\n;
$header .= MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n;
$header .= Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\r\n;
$header .= X-Priority: 1\r\n;
$header .= X-Mailer: PHP / .phpversion().\r\n;
$header .= Cc: .$other_email.\r\n;
$header .= Bcc: .$another_email.\r\n;

Sorry for my bad english. :-)

Redy Ramamonjisoa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [PHP] Most current non-beta version, and bcc

2002-11-07 Thread Rick Widmer
At 02:38 PM 11/7/02 -0600, Jill S wrote:

so again I'll ask - Are the  4.2.3 downloads at the top of the
page at: http://www.php.net/downloads/  beta versions or
non-beta versions?


4.2.3 is currently the latest stable released version of PHP.  Yes, that 
means NOT BETA.

Anything that makes it to the downloads page is stable code.


4.3.0 should be out soon, but is not yet considered stable.  It has also 
passed the BETA state and is in its second pre-release final testing.


If you want to get it you have to look at snaps.php.net or the CVS 
server.  Code from these sources is under active development and at any 
given time may not even compile. (Not that it happens often.) I can 
understand why a hosting provider might not want to run them.  On the other 
hand I switched to PHP4 at Beta 2 and never looked back.

Rick


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