Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:37:09 -0600 impersonator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Charette) planted I saw in php.general: -Original Message- From: ~~~i LeoNid~~ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] It could be stated on the site, or (and) tar could be re-moved. As far as I am concerned, as soon as something is placed on the web, you have no control over reference to it.. And access you can regulate of c0urse:) Or you could remember that picking up unannounced software from _any_ site is generally a very bad idea ... you may get a lot more than you bargained for ... As if viruses/spyware can not be inserted in announced software, as well.. even in additions to original developers bugs/eggs btw:). Of course you have more rights to complain with announced ones, and this IS (theoretically atleast:) important. Not exactly about this case, but I received (not downloaded by myself:) the other day, an unsolicited e-mail with a virus, from (and via) my ISP based address, which I am going to report. In the described case though, the site for download packages is widely known. Its not for one time release, but for subsequent versions. Besides, warning is in most cases included _inside_ the package's license, that no-body is responsible for damage, use it 4 your own risk, etc, etc.. Anyway, I am not encouraging dounloading to quick, but just am stating that forbidding refference to something already placed on the WEB - is absurd. Mark C. L. S. made DS:) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:57:41 +0100 impersonator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zeev Suraski) planted I saw in php.general: There were some last minute issues that required further testing... It could be stated on the site, or (and) tar could be re-moved. As far as I am concerned, as soon as something is placed on the web, you have no control over reference to it.. And access you can regulate of c0urse:) Zeev At 20:53 28/11/2001, Julio Nobrega Trabalhando wrote: Mind if I ask why? I do have a few ideas, but I feel I am terribly wrong about them :-) -- Julio Nobrega No matter where you go, this. Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 5.1.0.14.2.20011128204245.01e71090@localhost">news:5.1.0.14.2.20011128204245.01e71090@localhost... And for a good reason. Please don't publish such URLs in the future... Zeev At 18:56 28/11/2001, Mike Eheler wrote: Try it: http://www.php.net/distributions/php-4.1.0.tar.gz No word on the website, though. Mike i Leon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
-Original Message- From: ~~~i LeoNid~~ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] It could be stated on the site, or (and) tar could be re-moved. As far as I am concerned, as soon as something is placed on the web, you have no control over reference to it.. And access you can regulate of c0urse:) Or you could remember that picking up unannounced software from _any_ site is generally a very bad idea ... you may get a lot more than you bargained for ... Mark C. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
Ahh I see. Thanks! :) Mike Andrey wrote: Already known. 4.1.0 is 4.1.0RC3 . Final tests are in progress. Regards, Andrey Hristov - Original Message - From: Mike Eheler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out? Try it: http://www.php.net/distributions/php-4.1.0.tar.gz No word on the website, though. Mike -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
Hello, Another thing, php 4.1.0 is NOT 4.1.0 RC3 Derick Rethans The PHP QA Team Mike Eheler [EMAIL PROTECTED] scrawled: Try it: http://www.php.net/distributions/php-4.1.0.tar.gz No word on the website, though. Mike -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
And for a good reason. Please don't publish such URLs in the future... Zeev At 18:56 28/11/2001, Mike Eheler wrote: Try it: http://www.php.net/distributions/php-4.1.0.tar.gz No word on the website, though. Mike -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
Mind if I ask why? I do have a few ideas, but I feel I am terribly wrong about them :-) -- Julio Nobrega No matter where you go, this. Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 5.1.0.14.2.20011128204245.01e71090@localhost">news:5.1.0.14.2.20011128204245.01e71090@localhost... And for a good reason. Please don't publish such URLs in the future... Zeev At 18:56 28/11/2001, Mike Eheler wrote: Try it: http://www.php.net/distributions/php-4.1.0.tar.gz No word on the website, though. Mike -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
There were some last minute issues that required further testing... Zeev At 20:53 28/11/2001, Julio Nobrega Trabalhando wrote: Mind if I ask why? I do have a few ideas, but I feel I am terribly wrong about them :-) -- Julio Nobrega No matter where you go, this. Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 5.1.0.14.2.20011128204245.01e71090@localhost">news:5.1.0.14.2.20011128204245.01e71090@localhost... And for a good reason. Please don't publish such URLs in the future... Zeev At 18:56 28/11/2001, Mike Eheler wrote: Try it: http://www.php.net/distributions/php-4.1.0.tar.gz No word on the website, though. Mike -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
Interesting. I'll hold off, but people will still try stuff like that. I'm not trying to tell ya what to do, but I've found it best never to put files with release-names in their primary download spots, regardless of how hidden they may seem, until your absolutely positive that will be the release file. I've been randomly trying various filenames with wget for the past week or so, and last night it worked. One of the older tricks in the books for getting pre-releases. Also, beyond this.. other than grabbing from CVS, does php ever publish milestone development versions for download anywhere? Mike Zeev Suraski wrote: And for a good reason. Please don't publish such URLs in the future... Zeev At 18:56 28/11/2001, Mike Eheler wrote: Try it: http://www.php.net/distributions/php-4.1.0.tar.gz No word on the website, though. Mike -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 01:03 pm, Mike Eheler wrote: I'll hold off, but people will still try stuff like that. I'm not trying to tell ya what to do, but I've found it best never to put files with release-names in their primary download spots, regardless of how hidden they may seem, until your absolutely positive that will be the release file. FWIW (not much), I agree with this. If it looks like a released version and talks like a released version, then it probably is a released version, even if the announcement hasn't come out. That may be faulty logic, but it's what most folks are likely to assume. Also, beyond this.. other than grabbing from CVS, does php ever publish milestone development versions for download anywhere? Yes -- follow the php-dev mailling list -- they're announced there. RC versions are generally posted under someone's home directory rather than in the distributions directory. Not sure why that wasn't the case with the not-really-4.1.0 version. --kurt -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
Well, the big difference is that people who try out stuff like that are usually aware of the fact that they may very well be downloading something bogus. However, when you paste a URL that is typically a click away from a download with today's mailers, it goes to a much broader and unsuspecting audience. As for snapshots, you can take a look at snaps.php.net. No need to blindly browse for pre-releases anymore :) Zeev At 23:03 28/11/2001, Mike Eheler wrote: Interesting. I'll hold off, but people will still try stuff like that. I'm not trying to tell ya what to do, but I've found it best never to put files with release-names in their primary download spots, regardless of how hidden they may seem, until your absolutely positive that will be the release file. I've been randomly trying various filenames with wget for the past week or so, and last night it worked. One of the older tricks in the books for getting pre-releases. Also, beyond this.. other than grabbing from CVS, does php ever publish milestone development versions for download anywhere? Mike Zeev Suraski wrote: And for a good reason. Please don't publish such URLs in the future... Zeev At 18:56 28/11/2001, Mike Eheler wrote: Try it: http://www.php.net/distributions/php-4.1.0.tar.gz No word on the website, though. Mike -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out?
http://snaps.php.net/ Again, the whole not fully tested issue comes to play... I'd avoid using these on a production server, obviously. :) -Original Message- From: Mike Eheler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:04 PM To: Zeev Suraski; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP 4.1 out? Interesting. I'll hold off, but people will still try stuff like that. I'm not trying to tell ya what to do, but I've found it best never to put files with release-names in their primary download spots, regardless of how hidden they may seem, until your absolutely positive that will be the release file. I've been randomly trying various filenames with wget for the past week or so, and last night it worked. One of the older tricks in the books for getting pre-releases. Also, beyond this.. other than grabbing from CVS, does php ever publish milestone development versions for download anywhere? Mike Zeev Suraski wrote: And for a good reason. Please don't publish such URLs in the future... Zeev At 18:56 28/11/2001, Mike Eheler wrote: Try it: http://www.php.net/distributions/php-4.1.0.tar.gz No word on the website, though. Mike -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
