Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread Mark Charette
Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
Hi list:
I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than PHP, so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put me some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to response ?
Rather than get into an open ended discussion/argument, perhaps it would 
be best to ask the community why ASP.NET is better? Perhaps for the 
usage they envision is _is_ better, perhaps not.

I have found over the past 32 years that passionate 
discussions/arguments over what language is better than another to be 
less than constructive anyway. Better to just do your work and let it 
speak for itself.

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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread hanez
On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
 Hi list:

 I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to
 solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than PHP,
 so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put me
 some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to response ?

My meaning about this:

ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for Enterprise 
(web) applications.  It really has many more features then PHP and i would 
compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE.  I don't know much about ASP .NET since 
i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA.  I think it is 
better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby.  You could 
compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was nearly the same.  I 
never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but it 
looked like VisualBasic code.

Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):

http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html


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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread M Saleh EG
I don't recommand this article at Oracle at all!!
It's a very biased one and intends to misguide as a marketting gig. I'd like 
you to read healthy articles that truely compare. BTW
ASP.nethttp://ASP.netcan not be compared with PHP5 because they are
totaly different.
It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. PHP can be compared to ASP not 
ASP.net http://ASP.net because it's totaly a different thing. HTH. Been 
there, done that.

On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
  Hi list:
 
  I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to
  solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than 
 PHP,
  so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put me
  some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to response 
 ?
 
 My meaning about this:
 
 ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for 
 Enterprise
 (web) applications. It really has many more features then PHP and i would
 compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE. I don't know much about ASP .NET 
 since
 i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA. I think it is
 better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby. You could
 compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was nearly the same. 
 I
 never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but it
 looked like VisualBasic code.
 
 Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):
 
 http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
 
 Regards
 
 Johannes Findeisen
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread hanez
On Saturday 23 April 2005 20:27, M Saleh EG wrote:
 On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
   Hi list:
  
   I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to
   solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than
  PHP,
 
   so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put me
   some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to
   response
 
  My meaning about this:
 
  ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for
  Enterprise
  (web) applications. It really has many more features then PHP and i would
  compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE. I don't know much about ASP .NET
  since
  i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA. I think it is
  better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby. You
  could compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was nearly
  the same. I
  never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but it
  looked like VisualBasic code.
 
  Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):
 
  http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
 
 I don't recommand this article at Oracle at all!!
 It's a very biased one and intends to misguide as a marketting gig. I'd
 like you to read healthy articles that truely compare. BTW
 ASP.nethttp://ASP.netcan not be compared with PHP5 because they are
 totaly different.
 It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. PHP can be compared to ASP not
 ASP.net http://ASP.net because it's totaly a different thing. HTH. Been
 there, done that.

Okay, please read my post again!

I would not compare PHP with ASP .NET. This is what i wrote. I found that link 
to Oracle within 5 seconds via Google and did not read the whole text but 
Reynier Perez Mira could understand the difference with it.

Please read carefully before reply and please don't top post!


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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread M Saleh EG
I did not say that you compared! Sorry if I put it that way. I said the 
article at Oracle does that.
In all the cases that article does not fairly illustrate anything. It's a 
merketing trick for novices!

On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Saturday 23 April 2005 20:27, M Saleh EG wrote:
  On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
Hi list:
   
I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need 
 to
solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than
   PHP,
  
so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you put 
 me
some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to
response
  
   My meaning about this:
  
   ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for
   Enterprise
   (web) applications. It really has many more features then PHP and i 
 would
   compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE. I don't know much about ASP .NET
   since
   i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA. I think it 
 is
   better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby. You
   could compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was nearly
   the same. I
   never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but 
 it
   looked like VisualBasic code.
  
   Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):
  
   http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
  
  I don't recommand this article at Oracle at all!!
  It's a very biased one and intends to misguide as a marketting gig. I'd
  like you to read healthy articles that truely compare. BTW
  ASP.net http://ASP.nethttp://ASP.netcan not be compared with PHP5 
 because they are
  totaly different.
  It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. PHP can be compared to ASP not
  ASP.net http://ASP.net http://ASP.net because it's totaly a 
 different thing. HTH. Been
  there, done that.
 
 Okay, please read my post again!
 
 I would not compare PHP with ASP .NET. This is what i wrote. I found that 
 link
 to Oracle within 5 seconds via Google and did not read the whole text but
 Reynier Perez Mira could understand the difference with it.
 
 Please read carefully before reply and please don't top post!
 
 
 Regards
 
 Johannes Findeisen
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread Johannes Findeisen
On Saturday 23 April 2005 20:57, M Saleh EG wrote:
 On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 23 April 2005 20:27, M Saleh EG wrote:
   On 4/23/05, hanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 23 April 2005 19:33, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
 Hi list:

 I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need
 
  to
 
 solve it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better
 than
   
PHP,
   
 so I need information to response they about this theme. Can you
 put
 
  me
 
 some sites, statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to
 response
   
My meaning about this:
   
ASP .NET is not just a scripting language but more a plattform for
Enterprise
(web) applications. It really has many more features then PHP and i
 
  would
 
compare ASP .NET more with JAVA/J2EE. I don't know much about ASP
.NET since
i am more familiar with PHP and maybe some little bit JAVA. I think
it
 
  is
 
better to compare with a scripting language like Python or Ruby. You
could compare the old versions of ASP with PHP because this was
nearly the same. I
never have coded with ASP since i very rarely touch a windows box but
 
  it
 
looked like VisualBasic code.
   
Take a look here (Search Google: asp .net vs php5 ):
   
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
  
   I don't recommand this article at Oracle at all!!
   It's a very biased one and intends to misguide as a marketting gig. I'd
   like you to read healthy articles that truely compare. BTW
   ASP.net http://ASP.nethttp://ASP.netcan not be compared with PHP5
 
  because they are
 
   totaly different.
   It's like comparing Apples and Oranges. PHP can be compared to ASP not
   ASP.net http://ASP.net http://ASP.net because it's totaly a
 
  different thing. HTH. Been
 
   there, done that.
 
  Okay, please read my post again!
 
  I would not compare PHP with ASP .NET. This is what i wrote. I found that
  link
  to Oracle within 5 seconds via Google and did not read the whole text but
  Reynier Perez Mira could understand the difference with it.
 I did not say that you compared! Sorry if I put it that way. I said the
 article at Oracle does that.
 In all the cases that article does not fairly illustrate anything. It's a
 merketing trick for novices!

Okay, but it defenitly says this:

snip from=http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html
The latest incarnation of ASP, ASP.NET, is not completely backward-compatible 
with previous versions of ASP, as it is a complete rewrite of the software. 
Previous ASP technology actually has a lot more in common with PHP than with 
ASP.NET, which is a complete framework for building Web applications. One of 
the principal features of this model is the flexibility to choose your 
programming language. ASP.NET works with scripted languages such as VBScript, 
JScript, Perlscript, and Python, as well as compiled languages such as VB, 
C#, C, Cobol, Smalltalk, and Lisp. The new framework uses the common language 
runtime (CLR); your language source is compiled into Microsoft Intermediate 
Language code, which the CLR then executes.
/snip

This text says, that ASP .NET is a complete framework for building web 
applications.  All the other stuff maybe is some marketing strategy for 
selling Oracle software but i don't take care about that.

BTW, i think there is some more usefull information in this article (Anyway, i 
will not buy Oracle software).

Sorry for starting this flamewar. This was not my goal... ;-)

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Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP .NET

2005-04-23 Thread Greg Donald
On 4/23/05, Reynier Perez Mira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a problem with ASP .NET community in my Universty and I need to solve
 it. The thing is that they say me that ASP .NET is better than PHP, so I need
 information to response they about this theme. Can you put me some sites,
 statics, intrview to big personalities, articles to response ?

.NET is a framework, not a language.  Many other languages qualify as
.NET languages besides just C# and VB.net.  So if you don't like the
Microsoft ones you can try others:

http://php-sharp.sourceforge.net/
http://www.startvbdotnet.com/dotnet/languages.aspx


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RE: [PHP] PHP vs. ASP

2003-01-07 Thread See kok Boon
There is one minor difference that caused a major change in structure of the
two scripting language.

PHP offers the isset() function but ASP don't. in a way there are the pros
and cons.

For PHP, you can create the whole site in one page, even though that would
not be advisable. Because of isset(), you can get input and display output
using the same page. However, this would result in security loop holes.

Whereas for ASP, without the isset() keyword, ASP structures are usually
made up of at least 2 pages. One for receiving input and the other for
display the result, output. This of cos patches the security holes.

In a way, PHP provides a simpler way for programmer. Also, one can chose not
to use isset() !!

But ASP only supported on win platforms... =(



-Original Message-
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Sent: 04 January 2003 10:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] PHP vs. ASP

Hi!
How does PHP differs from ASP?

Are there any advantages in using PHP over ASP? Or the other way around?

Thanks!



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RE: [PHP] PHP vs. ASP

2003-01-07 Thread Sean Malloy

I'm not really sure what you mean in terms of ASP needing two or more pages?

%
dim pageAction
pageAction = Request(action)

select case pageAction
  case postit: InsertFormData()
  case else : ShowForm()
end select

sub InsertFormData()
end sub

sub ShowForm()
  Response.Write(htmlhead/headbodyTheForm/body/html)
end sub
%

or whatever.


as far as isset goes?

function isset(byval checkVar)
  dim ret
  if (len(checkVar)  0) then
ret = true
  else
ret = false
  end if
end function



The ONLY thing I can think of that ASP misses that can be done easily in
PHP, is dynamic includes, ie:

$code = _GET['code'];
include($code.'.php');


the asp inlude equivelent is
!--#include file=whatever.asp--

and thats handled by the SSI engine before it gets passed over to the ASP
engine. So no dynamic includes for ASP.

Ofcourse there are other features that PHP has that ASP does not, and vice
versa. Right tool for the job, right tool for the job.



-Original Message-
From: See kok Boon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 6:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP vs. ASP


There is one minor difference that caused a major change in structure of the
two scripting language.

PHP offers the isset() function but ASP don't. in a way there are the pros
and cons.

For PHP, you can create the whole site in one page, even though that would
not be advisable. Because of isset(), you can get input and display output
using the same page. However, this would result in security loop holes.

Whereas for ASP, without the isset() keyword, ASP structures are usually
made up of at least 2 pages. One for receiving input and the other for
display the result, output. This of cos patches the security holes.

In a way, PHP provides a simpler way for programmer. Also, one can chose not
to use isset() !!

But ASP only supported on win platforms... =(



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From: Anthony Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 January 2003 10:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] PHP vs. ASP

Hi!
How does PHP differs from ASP?

Are there any advantages in using PHP over ASP? Or the other way around?

Thanks!



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RE: [PHP] PHP vs. ASP

2003-01-07 Thread Sean Malloy
oops

function isset(byval checkVar)
  dim ret
  if (len(checkVar)  0) then
ret = true
  else
ret = false
  end if
  isset = ret
end function

meh

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From: Sean Malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 6:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP vs. ASP



I'm not really sure what you mean in terms of ASP needing two or more pages?

%
dim pageAction
pageAction = Request(action)

select case pageAction
  case postit: InsertFormData()
  case else : ShowForm()
end select

sub InsertFormData()
end sub

sub ShowForm()
  Response.Write(htmlhead/headbodyTheForm/body/html)
end sub
%

or whatever.


as far as isset goes?

function isset(byval checkVar)
  dim ret
  if (len(checkVar)  0) then
ret = true
  else
ret = false
  end if
end function



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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-29 Thread Mike Frazer

If ASP is as slow with MySQL as it is with native Microsoft DBs (Access, SQL
Server), then you may be in trouble.  I did some work for a friend who owns
a hosting company on a site done in ASP and the worst part of the whole
thing was testing because the database was so slow.  He's got some high-end
servers, too, so it wasn't the system slowing it down.  I have my personal
site with him and it seems to load stuff from MySQL about 2-5 times as fast
as the ASP-based sites load from SQL Server.

My two cents.

Mike Frazer



Jon Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  sorry i should have explained myself abit better.i am a huge fan of
 php
  hence why i subscribe to this mailing list. its just that i need to
settle
  an argument. my understanding is that php works better with mysql
however
 a
  friend of mine is adament that asp will work just as well. i am not
  sure


 Hmm I have to say it would depend on the quality of the ODBC driver you
 would be using.

 For instance: would you be able to get the insert id with ASP as easily as
 PHP?

 Look at all the MySQL functions in PHP and ask your friend hwo they would
 accomplish this in ASP.

 I would be interested to hear what your friend has to say to this, I would
 appreciate if you would drop me his/her reaction..

 Regards

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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-28 Thread Nick Wilson

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* and then liz lynch blurted
 can someone tell me whether or not asp can be used with mysql and is there any 
drawbacks to using it as opposed to php

erm are you looking for an unbiased opinion on a /php/ mailing list?
If you're serious you might want to post your question on the MySQL list
or something similar.

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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-28 Thread liz lynch

sorry i should have explained myself abit better.i am a huge fan of php
hence why i subscribe to this mailing list. its just that i need to settle
an argument. my understanding is that php works better with mysql however a
friend of mine is adament that asp will work just as well. i am not
sure
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  can someone tell me whether or not asp can be used with mysql and is
there any drawbacks to using it as opposed to php

 erm are you looking for an unbiased opinion on a /php/ mailing list?
 If you're serious you might want to post your question on the MySQL list
 or something similar.

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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-28 Thread Nick Wilson

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* and then liz lynch blurted
 sorry i should have explained myself abit better.i am a huge fan of php
 hence why i subscribe to this mailing list. its just that i need to settle
 an argument. my understanding is that php works better with mysql however a
 friend of mine is adament that asp will work just as well. i am not
 sure

Hehe, well truth is I'm not sure either but I expect that performance
wise it would be very similar. It's when you start talking about
documentation and envoirnment as Micheal said that you'll notice the
difference. 

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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-28 Thread Jon Farmer

 sorry i should have explained myself abit better.i am a huge fan of
php
 hence why i subscribe to this mailing list. its just that i need to settle
 an argument. my understanding is that php works better with mysql however
a
 friend of mine is adament that asp will work just as well. i am not
 sure


Hmm I have to say it would depend on the quality of the ODBC driver you
would be using.

For instance: would you be able to get the insert id with ASP as easily as
PHP?

Look at all the MySQL functions in PHP and ask your friend hwo they would
accomplish this in ASP.

I would be interested to hear what your friend has to say to this, I would
appreciate if you would drop me his/her reaction..

Regards

Jon


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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-28 Thread Jason Wong

On Monday 28 January 2002 23:15, liz lynch wrote:
 sorry i should have explained myself abit better.i am a huge fan of php
 hence why i subscribe to this mailing list. its just that i need to settle
 an argument. my understanding is that php works better with mysql however a
 friend of mine is adament that asp will work just as well. i am not
 sure

Still, you're not really going to get an unbiased opinion from this list. 
What you'll hear is probably something that reinforces your already biased 
point of view :)

For me, the drawback of using asp (and anything MS stuff) is the cost.

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 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:50 PM
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  * and then liz lynch blurted
 
   can someone tell me whether or not asp can be used with mysql and is

 there any drawbacks to using it as opposed to php

  erm are you looking for an unbiased opinion on a /php/ mailing list?
  If you're serious you might want to post your question on the MySQL list
  or something similar.

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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-28 Thread Clint Tredway

With ASP the only cost is the OS.

Clint

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On Monday 28 January 2002 23:15, liz lynch wrote:
 sorry i should have explained myself abit better.i am a huge fan of php
 hence why i subscribe to this mailing list. its just that i need to settle
 an argument. my understanding is that php works better with mysql however a
 friend of mine is adament that asp will work just as well. i am not
 sure

Still, you're not really going to get an unbiased opinion from this list. 
What you'll hear is probably something that reinforces your already biased 
point of view :)

For me, the drawback of using asp (and anything MS stuff) is the cost.

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   can someone tell me whether or not asp can be used with mysql and is

 there any drawbacks to using it as opposed to php

  erm are you looking for an unbiased opinion on a /php/ mailing list?
  If you're serious you might want to post your question on the MySQL list
  or something similar.

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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-28 Thread Jon Farmer

 With ASP the only cost is the OS.
 
 Clint

ASP = Cost of hardware + Cost of OS + Cost of 3rdParty components.

PHP = Cost of hardware.

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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-28 Thread TD - Sales International Holland B.V.

On Monday 28 January 2002 16:21, you wrote:

I could be very very very wrong on this, but I think that if you want to 
access MySQL through ASP you need an ODBC in between it and I think that will 
slow things down. Far as I know PHP uses the MySQL libraries and that SHOULD 
(again, I'm NOT sure) take away some of the extra overhead ODBC has and it 
should thus be faster with PHP. (Assuming you don't run PHP on a windows box, 
in which case you might need to use ODBC as well, but again, not sure about 
that, I never use any of these on windoze machines why get things so 
complicated when it runs so smooth with apache/php/mysql under linux...)

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  sorry i should have explained myself abit better.i am a huge fan of
  php hence why i subscribe to this mailing list. its just that i need to
  settle an argument. my understanding is that php works better with mysql
  however a friend of mine is adament that asp will work just as well. i am
  not sure

 Hehe, well truth is I'm not sure either but I expect that performance
 wise it would be very similar. It's when you start talking about
 documentation and envoirnment as Micheal said that you'll notice the
 difference.

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Re: [PHP] php vs asp

2002-01-28 Thread John Meyer

You can use ASP with Mysql, as long as you have myodbc installed on your
machine.  For me, ASP has been a bit slower, but you can still use it.
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can someone tell me whether or not asp can be used with mysql and is there
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Re: [PHP] PHP vs. ASP

2002-01-09 Thread Shane Wright

Hi

Something I dont think anyone's mentioned yet is that PHP is also great for 
running stuff from the command line - e.g. for background scripts for a site 
or mailing scripts or whatever...

In case that doesnt sound so useful, it measn you can use all the same 
libraries for the online site as for the offline processing bits :)

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On Wednesday 09 Jan 2002 1:43 pm, Jake wrote:
 Hello there, I need some help.

 I have to do a technical report(about 2200 words) comparing PHP to ASP.  I
 have already decided to make PHP the winner becasue it is superior.  But I
 am kinda stumped on what areas to compare the two.

 If you could help me out in suggesting some possible areas of comparison.
 Keeping in mind that I need about the same amount of info on both PHP and
 ASP.  Also if you could point me in the right direction by including some
 web links that deal with the topic.

 Thank You,
 Jake

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