Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-09 Thread Larry Garfield
Then get a new host.  A host that disables PDO these days is a host that 
deserves to go bankrupt. ext/mysql has been dead for years now.


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On 09/08/2012 08:54 AM, Jim Giner wrote:

Nope. No PDO as yet either

jg


On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Adam Richardson simples...@gmail.com wrote:


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote:

So with the announced end of the mysql functions (and switching to a
different extension), one would think that my isp/hoster would be a bit more
interested in my dilemma.  I tried today to create my first mysqli-based
test script and found that I didn't have that extension.  A series of emails
with my tech support told me that the shared server farm does not get
mysqli - only their business servers.  Since I dont' have a need for and
want to pay more for a 'business server', I'm told I'm s... outta luck.

What about PDO? Is that available?

Adam

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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-09 Thread Larry Garfield
And I didn't see the follow-up messages saying that they do support PDO 
after all.  Crisis averted! :-)


I have actually found very few hosts that run ext/mysqli. Everyone I 
know jumped from ext/mysql to PDO.  I've never actually run mysqli 
myself; at this point everything I do is PDO.


--Larry Garfield

On 09/09/2012 04:49 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
Then get a new host.  A host that disables PDO these days is a host 
that deserves to go bankrupt. ext/mysql has been dead for years now.


--Larry Garfield

On 09/08/2012 08:54 AM, Jim Giner wrote:

Nope. No PDO as yet either

jg



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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-08 Thread Jim Giner
Nope. No PDO as yet either

jg


On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Adam Richardson simples...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com 
 wrote:
 So with the announced end of the mysql functions (and switching to a
 different extension), one would think that my isp/hoster would be a bit more
 interested in my dilemma.  I tried today to create my first mysqli-based
 test script and found that I didn't have that extension.  A series of emails
 with my tech support told me that the shared server farm does not get
 mysqli - only their business servers.  Since I dont' have a need for and
 want to pay more for a 'business server', I'm told I'm s... outta luck.
 
 What about PDO? Is that available?
 
 Adam
 
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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-08 Thread Bastien


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On 2012-09-08, at 9:54 AM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote:

 Nope. No PDO as yet either
 
 jg
 
 
 On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Adam Richardson simples...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com 
 wrote:
 So with the announced end of the mysql functions (and switching to a
 different extension), one would think that my isp/hoster would be a bit more
 interested in my dilemma.  I tried today to create my first mysqli-based
 test script and found that I didn't have that extension.  A series of emails
 with my tech support told me that the shared server farm does not get
 mysqli - only their business servers.  Since I dont' have a need for and
 want to pay more for a 'business server', I'm told I'm s... outta luck.
 
 What about PDO? Is that available?
 
 Adam
 
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Change hosts. They are not keeping up
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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-08 Thread Jim Giner


On 9/8/2012 10:40 AM, Bastien wrote:

Change hosts. They are not keeping up
That's not entirely true.  They have kept up to date with most things 
for the 10 years I've been with them.  I think they just have to get 
their heads around the idea that the PHP community is moving ahead on 
something and they'll come around.


Plus - I've just found that they do have PDO_mysql extension.

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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-08 Thread Jim Giner

On 9/8/2012 9:54 AM, Jim Giner wrote:

Nope. No PDO as yet either

jg


On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Adam Richardson simples...@gmail.com wrote:


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote:

So with the announced end of the mysql functions (and switching to a
different extension), one would think that my isp/hoster would be a bit more
interested in my dilemma.  I tried today to create my first mysqli-based
test script and found that I didn't have that extension.  A series of emails
with my tech support told me that the shared server farm does not get
mysqli - only their business servers.  Since I dont' have a need for and
want to pay more for a 'business server', I'm told I'm s... outta luck.


What about PDO? Is that available?

Adam

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Actually - I was incorrect.  A quick run of get_loaded_extensions 
reveals that my hoster does provide something named: pdo_mysql as the 
very last item.  Guess I'll have to go with that ext rather than mysqli.


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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-08 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote:
 So with the announced end of the mysql functions (and switching to a
 different extension), one would think that my isp/hoster would be a bit more
 interested in my dilemma.  I tried today to create my first mysqli-based
 test script and found that I didn't have that extension.  A series of emails
 with my tech support told me that the shared server farm does not get
 mysqli - only their business servers.  Since I dont' have a need for and
 want to pay more for a 'business server', I'm told I'm s... outta luck.

 Any idea on the approximate date when mysql truly goes away - ie, when is
 the proposed (next) update that will completely refuse to recognize it?
 Might be ammunition for me.

There is no date yet, but I can say that just today the first
serious discussion regarding the first release of the PHP 5.5 branch
occurred, with a (very) preliminary target date of February or March
of 2013.  It's far more likely to see such a major BC change in at
least a new minor branch.  As for that happening in either the 5.4 or
5.3 series, I wouldn't consider that a serious possibility by any
means.

As for your hosting provider, it baffles me why they wouldn't
support MySQLi, but a quick evaluation shows they still use old
versions of Apache and OpenSSL, and are still using unpatched versions
of PHP 5.2 in production.  That said, they might keep their
non-business support to a bare minimum to help control cost, though it
does sacrifice some security and functionality.

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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-08 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 09:58:38PM -0400, Jim Giner wrote:

 So with the announced end of the mysql functions (and switching to a
 different extension), one would think that my isp/hoster would be a
 bit more interested in my dilemma.  I tried today to create my first
 mysqli-based test script and found that I didn't have that
 extension.  A series of emails with my tech support told me that the
 shared server farm does not get mysqli - only their business
 servers.  Since I dont' have a need for and want to pay more for a
 'business server', I'm told I'm s... outta luck.
 
 Any idea on the approximate date when mysql truly goes away - ie,
 when is the proposed (next) update that will completely refuse to
 recognize it?  Might be ammunition for me.

Please excuse my ignorance. I feel like I just stepped into the middle
of a conversation. What's this about announced end of the mysql
functions? Who exactly announced what, and is there a link to whatever
announcement somewhere?

Paul

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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-08 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:

 Please excuse my ignorance. I feel like I just stepped into the middle
 of a conversation. What's this about announced end of the mysql
 functions? Who exactly announced what, and is there a link to whatever
 announcement somewhere?

Right now, it's an extended soft deprecation.  It's been discussed
since 2010.  You can find a direct link from June here:

https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=62213

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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-07 Thread Shiplu
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote:

 So with the announced end of the mysql functions (and switching to a
 different extension), one would think that my isp/hoster would be a bit
 more interested in my dilemma.  I tried today to create my first
 mysqli-based test script and found that I didn't have that extension.  A
 series of emails with my tech support told me that the shared server farm
 does not get mysqli - only their business servers.  Since I dont' have a
 need for and want to pay more for a 'business server', I'm told I'm s...
 outta luck.


I suggest you use a VPS. Cost of a VPS and a shared server is in same range
nowadays.

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Re: [PHP] The end of mysql

2012-09-07 Thread Adam Richardson
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote:
 So with the announced end of the mysql functions (and switching to a
 different extension), one would think that my isp/hoster would be a bit more
 interested in my dilemma.  I tried today to create my first mysqli-based
 test script and found that I didn't have that extension.  A series of emails
 with my tech support told me that the shared server farm does not get
 mysqli - only their business servers.  Since I dont' have a need for and
 want to pay more for a 'business server', I'm told I'm s... outta luck.

What about PDO? Is that available?

Adam

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