Re: [PHP] What the heck is this Zope?

2002-08-09 Thread Lee P. Reilly

My two cents:

I used Zope a while back for a university project, and I've been using
PHP for the best part of a year. Zope is very similar to PHP, but Zope
is better suited for the novice web designer / developer. Zope makes it
easy to interact with databases and allows you to iterate through a
result set using HTML-like tags (DTML) like:




 


Simple web application require very little or no programming. It also
allows you to edit the (HTML) source via a web browser, which (too some)
is an attractive feature. Zope is good for silly little DB apps, and
coding in Python is easy (although the syntax is probably a LOT
different to anything you've used before). AFAIK, it can do everything
that PHP can, but I believe that PHP is faster & it's definitely more
widely used and has a bigger user base.

Lee recommends PHP any day.

   - Lee


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Re: [PHP] What the heck is this Zope?

2002-08-09 Thread ed

Check this page out: http://www.zope.org/WhatIsZope 
.. And click the links
on that page too.
I don't know much about it.  But what I gather is that
it's sort of like an
open source "cold fusion" type application written in
python.
Not that it necissarily resembles cold fusion in any
way, but that it's sort
of a framework for building web applications.
I don't know a whole lot about python either, but it
looks really cool.  I
think python is probably a better general-purpose
scripting language than
php, similar to perl in that respect.  But as far as
building applications
that are strictly for the web, is there anything as
good as php?
I would probably say no, but a lot of it is a matter
of taste. 

hth,
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Dear all:

What the heck is this Zope? Which is better PHP or
Zope?

Any idea !

DT



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Re: [PHP] What the heck is this Zope?

2002-08-09 Thread Jason Wong

On Friday 09 August 2002 21:59, Chris Garaffa wrote:
> On Friday, August 9, 2002, at 07:27 AM, Jason Wong wrote:
> >> Which is better PHP or Zope?
> >
> > How long is a piece of string?
>
> Twice the length of one of its halves.

So what's that in metric?

> Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Ditto.

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Re: [PHP] What the heck is this Zope?

2002-08-09 Thread Chris Garaffa

On Friday, August 9, 2002, at 10:07 AM, Kondwani Spike Mkandawire wrote:
>
> "Chris Garaffa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Friday, August 9, 2002, at 07:27 AM, Jason Wong wrote:
>>
 Which is better PHP or Zope?
>>>
>>> How long is a piece of string?
>>
>> Twice the length of one of its halves.
>> c.
>>
> What if the String cannot be split into equal halves?

Then we're all screwed.
Ladies and gentlemen, start your debuggers!

c.
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Re: [PHP] What the heck is this Zope?

2002-08-09 Thread Kondwani Spike Mkandawire


"Chris Garaffa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Friday, August 9, 2002, at 07:27 AM, Jason Wong wrote:
>
> >> Which is better PHP or Zope?
> >
> > How long is a piece of string?
>
> Twice the length of one of its halves.
> c.
>
What if the String cannot be split into equal halves?



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Re: [PHP] What the heck is this Zope?

2002-08-09 Thread Chris Garaffa

On Friday, August 9, 2002, at 07:27 AM, Jason Wong wrote:

>> Which is better PHP or Zope?
>
> How long is a piece of string?

Twice the length of one of its halves.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

c.


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Re: [PHP] What the heck is this Zope?

2002-08-09 Thread Jason Wong

On Friday 09 August 2002 18:09, Deependra b. Tandukar wrote:

> What the heck is this Zope? 

Try asking on the zope mailing list, or read up on www.zope.org

> Which is better PHP or Zope?

How long is a piece of string?
Horses for courses.
You pays your money and takes your choice.

Zope is based on Python and seems to be completely object oriented which may 
or may not be a good thing.

Because it is not as widely used as PHP there seems to be less support all 
round (fewer 3rd party code, less support for DBs, fewer libraries etc).

However because of it OO-ness the code is very reusable.

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