Re: pl-web, almost a web development framework
Hi Henrik, I just tried your simple-web-app, using 32-bit PicoLisp (3.1.2.6 C) on my Mac. It seems to work, except for uploading files. I've tried uploading a .jpg and a .txt file, but each time the server failed to return a response, probably hanging. I just got two empty files in the uploads folder. Do you have a newer version of your code? /Jon On 2/4/12 12:48 PM, Henrik Sarvell wrote: Hi guys! This time I've also attached the sample web app. You know where things are to be and how to start the http server if you read the prior post. So pl-web is getting more feature complete, we can now also: 1.) Upload files, in the test application they end up in the app/uploads folder in the sample web app ( http://localhost:8080/login ). 2.) Redirect, go to http://localhost:8080/to-whoami to see it in effect. 3.) Download / load mime files, try http://localhost:8080/public/test.html and http://localhost:8080/public/test.txt In addition to that sessions will now get wiped (if it works correctly which I think but I'm not 100), in the main.l of the simple web app you have the following at the top: (setq *SClI '(3600 . 5)) (Session Clear Information) which means it should remove sessions that are older than one hour and there's a 5% chance of the swipe being initiated everytime someone accesses the site. Depending on how busy the site is and how accurately you want to be able to remove old sessions these values should be changed. I know, it's ugly but it's what I can come up with. We now have something like the PL equivalent of the environment / capabilities you have when you start out with an empty PHP script. If you inspect the code you will see that in addition to the http function a few others have been redefined, I have removed basically everything from _htSet and have no idea if now something essential is missing or if it was just stuff pertaining to the GUI framework. It's a monkey in a spaceship situation here, I suppose I'll find out soon enough as my intention is to now go ahead and create some kind of framework on top of pl-web. I've also modified Alex JSON code and included it in pl-web. The following now looks like it works (didn't try to eval with JS but visually it looks good): (class +Person) (dm T (Name Age) (=: nm Name) (=: age Age)) (setq Anna (new '(+Person) Anna 25)) (setq Peter (new '(+Person) Peter 30)) (printJson (list (list two-people [] Anna Peter) '(name . Smith) '(age . 25) '(a-bool . T) '(some-bools [] T NIL T T T NIL NIL) '(address (street . 21 2nd Street) (city . New York) (state . NY) (zip . 10021) ) '(phone [] 212 555-1234 646 555-4567) ) ) I think comments on the above are superfluous. I never managed to flip/reverse the pairs so that mapcar over the getl is the result of that inability. Anyway, it now basically works like I want. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Henrik Sarvellhsarv...@gmail.com wrote: OK so I've got a first draft of something simple. As opposed to what has been requested before this is NOT a web development framework in the sense of RoR or even Ring. Instead I've opted to create a simple environment from which frameworks utilizing conventions and such can be built, both a RoR type of thing or a simpler Ring style framework is possible to create from pl-web. What we have is a few basic things: 1.) An ability to inspect the current look of the URL (se line 87 and 120 in pl-web.l). 2.) File based sessions (ugly yes but will not make demands on how any database should look like). See line 109 in pl-web.l. 3.) Trying as hard as we can to utilize Linux system functions/commands in order to alleviate the need for libraries (see cmd.l). How to test: 1.) Unpack the attached file into /opt/picolisp and create /tmp/pl-web/sessions/. 2.) Create a folder called simple-web-app in /opt/picolisp/projects and paste the following into a main.l file there: (load pl-web/pl-web.l pl-web/pl-html.l) (de login (Msg) (plw-form NIL (span NIL Username:) (plw-field text username (gReq username)) (br) (span NIL Password:) (plw-field password password ) (br) (submit Submit) (br) (span NIL Msg) ) ) (de app () (fatApp (html 0 PL Web *Css NIL (div NIL (println Post: *Post Cookies: *Cookies)) (cond ((= (car *Urll) login) (ifn (and (= (gReq password) test) (= (gReq username) test)) (login (if (gReq username) User not found. Please login. ) ) (sSess 'logged-in-user test) (div NIL Login successful.) ) ) ((= (car *Urll) whoami) (div NIL (prin You are: (gSess 'logged-in-user))) ) (T (Nothing to do.)) ) ) ) ) (de start () (off *JS)) (de go () (server 8080 !start) ) 3.) Start it:
Re: pl-web, almost a web development framework
I do but nowadays it's dependent on namespacing so only 64bit I'm afraid. However the uploading worked when I tested and this code has not been changed either in the current version. Maybe it's a permission issue on the upload folder? On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Jon Kleiser jon.klei...@usit.uio.no wrote: Hi Henrik, I just tried your simple-web-app, using 32-bit PicoLisp (3.1.2.6 C) on my Mac. It seems to work, except for uploading files. I've tried uploading a .jpg and a .txt file, but each time the server failed to return a response, probably hanging. I just got two empty files in the uploads folder. Do you have a newer version of your code? /Jon On 2/4/12 12:48 PM, Henrik Sarvell wrote: Hi guys! This time I've also attached the sample web app. You know where things are to be and how to start the http server if you read the prior post. So pl-web is getting more feature complete, we can now also: 1.) Upload files, in the test application they end up in the app/uploads folder in the sample web app ( http://localhost:8080/login ). 2.) Redirect, go to http://localhost:8080/to-**whoamihttp://localhost:8080/to-whoamito see it in effect. 3.) Download / load mime files, try http://localhost:8080/public/**test.htmlhttp://localhost:8080/public/test.htmland http://localhost:8080/public/**test.txthttp://localhost:8080/public/test.txt In addition to that sessions will now get wiped (if it works correctly which I think but I'm not 100), in the main.l of the simple web app you have the following at the top: (setq *SClI '(3600 . 5)) (Session Clear Information) which means it should remove sessions that are older than one hour and there's a 5% chance of the swipe being initiated everytime someone accesses the site. Depending on how busy the site is and how accurately you want to be able to remove old sessions these values should be changed. I know, it's ugly but it's what I can come up with. We now have something like the PL equivalent of the environment / capabilities you have when you start out with an empty PHP script. If you inspect the code you will see that in addition to the http function a few others have been redefined, I have removed basically everything from _htSet and have no idea if now something essential is missing or if it was just stuff pertaining to the GUI framework. It's a monkey in a spaceship situation here, I suppose I'll find out soon enough as my intention is to now go ahead and create some kind of framework on top of pl-web. I've also modified Alex JSON code and included it in pl-web. The following now looks like it works (didn't try to eval with JS but visually it looks good): (class +Person) (dm T (Name Age) (=: nm Name) (=: age Age)) (setq Anna (new '(+Person) Anna 25)) (setq Peter (new '(+Person) Peter 30)) (printJson (list (list two-people [] Anna Peter) '(name . Smith) '(age . 25) '(a-bool . T) '(some-bools [] T NIL T T T NIL NIL) '(address (street . 21 2nd Street) (city . New York) (state . NY) (zip . 10021) ) '(phone [] 212 555-1234 646 555-4567) ) ) I think comments on the above are superfluous. I never managed to flip/reverse the pairs so that mapcar over the getl is the result of that inability. Anyway, it now basically works like I want. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Henrik Sarvellhsarv...@gmail.com wrote: OK so I've got a first draft of something simple. As opposed to what has been requested before this is NOT a web development framework in the sense of RoR or even Ring. Instead I've opted to create a simple environment from which frameworks utilizing conventions and such can be built, both a RoR type of thing or a simpler Ring style framework is possible to create from pl-web. What we have is a few basic things: 1.) An ability to inspect the current look of the URL (se line 87 and 120 in pl-web.l). 2.) File based sessions (ugly yes but will not make demands on how any database should look like). See line 109 in pl-web.l. 3.) Trying as hard as we can to utilize Linux system functions/commands in order to alleviate the need for libraries (see cmd.l). How to test: 1.) Unpack the attached file into /opt/picolisp and create /tmp/pl-web/sessions/. 2.) Create a folder called simple-web-app in /opt/picolisp/projects and paste the following into a main.l file there: (load pl-web/pl-web.l pl-web/pl-html.l) (de login (Msg) (plw-form NIL (span NIL Username:) (plw-field text username (gReq username)) (br) (span NIL Password:) (plw-field password password ) (br) (submit Submit) (br) (span NIL Msg) ) ) (de app () (fatApp (html 0 PL Web *Css NIL (div NIL (println Post: *Post Cookies: *Cookies)) (cond ((= (car *Urll) login)
Re: pl-web, almost a web development framework
Hi Henrik, No, the problem wasn't the permissions on the upload folder. (It was 'drwxr-xr-x@'.) And if it had been, I quess that I wouldn't have got the empty files. The problem was that I only specified one file each time, while your form has two file input elements. Uploading two files at the same time works. I guess I should be able to fix that bug. Another thing I'd like to fix are the file names. Now I just get names like this: 4135dc2f27063048e073bc22d8a6e489 jpg .. and it even seems to be a newline character before the extension .. Have you experienced this? /Jon On 5/8/13 1:55 PM, Henrik Sarvell wrote: I do but nowadays it's dependent on namespacing so only 64bit I'm afraid. However the uploading worked when I tested and this code has not been changed either in the current version. Maybe it's a permission issue on the upload folder? On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Jon Kleiser jon.klei...@usit.uio.no mailto:jon.klei...@usit.uio.no wrote: Hi Henrik, I just tried your simple-web-app, using 32-bit PicoLisp (3.1.2.6 C) on my Mac. It seems to work, except for uploading files. I've tried uploading a .jpg and a .txt file, but each time the server failed to return a response, probably hanging. I just got two empty files in the uploads folder. Do you have a newer version of your code? /Jon --090602050506030505090900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit html head meta content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type /head body bgcolor=#FF text=#00 Hi Henrik,br br No, the problem wasn't the permissions on the upload folder. (It was 'drwxr-xr-x@'.) And if it had been, I quess that I wouldn't have got the empty files. The problem was that I only specified one file each time, while your form has two file input elements. Uploading two files at the same time works. I guess I should be able to fix that bug.br Another thing I'd like to fix are the file names. Now I just get names like this:br br 4135dc2f27063048e073bc22d8a6e489br .jpgbr br ... and it even seems to be a newline character before the extension .. Have you experienced this?br br /Jonbr br On 5/8/13 1:55 PM, Henrik Sarvell wrote: blockquote cite=mid:calnd_wasruejuabxxmqygfan9ysup_5ntztn4wvtqf8e7db...@mail.gmail.com type=cite div dir=ltr divI do but nowadays it's dependent on namespacing so only 64bit I'm afraid.br br /div However the uploading worked when I tested and this code has not been changed either in the current version. Maybe it's a permission issue on the upload folder?br /div div class=gmail_extrabr br div class=gmail_quoteOn Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Jon Kleiser span dir=ltrlt;a moz-do-not-send=true href=mailto:jon.klei...@usit.uio.no; target=_blankjon.klei...@usit.uio.no/agt;/span wrote:br blockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1exHi Henrik,br br I just tried your simple-web-app, using 32-bit PicoLisp (3.1.2.6 C) on my Mac. It seems to work, except for uploading files. I've tried uploading a .jpg and a .txt file, but each time the server failed to return a response, probably hanging. I just got two empty files in the uploads folder. Do you have a newer version of your code?br br /Jonbr /blockquote /div /div /blockquote br /body /html --090602050506030505090900-- -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: pl-web, almost a web development framework
Hi guys! This time I've also attached the sample web app. You know where things are to be and how to start the http server if you read the prior post. So pl-web is getting more feature complete, we can now also: 1.) Upload files, in the test application they end up in the app/uploads folder in the sample web app ( http://localhost:8080/login ). 2.) Redirect, go to http://localhost:8080/to-whoami to see it in effect. 3.) Download / load mime files, try http://localhost:8080/public/test.html and http://localhost:8080/public/test.txt In addition to that sessions will now get wiped (if it works correctly which I think but I'm not 100), in the main.l of the simple web app you have the following at the top: (setq *SClI '(3600 . 5)) (Session Clear Information) which means it should remove sessions that are older than one hour and there's a 5% chance of the swipe being initiated everytime someone accesses the site. Depending on how busy the site is and how accurately you want to be able to remove old sessions these values should be changed. I know, it's ugly but it's what I can come up with. We now have something like the PL equivalent of the environment / capabilities you have when you start out with an empty PHP script. If you inspect the code you will see that in addition to the http function a few others have been redefined, I have removed basically everything from _htSet and have no idea if now something essential is missing or if it was just stuff pertaining to the GUI framework. It's a monkey in a spaceship situation here, I suppose I'll find out soon enough as my intention is to now go ahead and create some kind of framework on top of pl-web. I've also modified Alex JSON code and included it in pl-web. The following now looks like it works (didn't try to eval with JS but visually it looks good): (class +Person) (dm T (Name Age) (=: nm Name) (=: age Age)) (setq Anna (new '(+Person) Anna 25)) (setq Peter (new '(+Person) Peter 30)) (printJson (list (list two-people [] Anna Peter) '(name . Smith) '(age . 25) '(a-bool . T) '(some-bools [] T NIL T T T NIL NIL) '(address (street . 21 2nd Street) (city . New York) (state . NY) (zip . 10021) ) '(phone [] 212 555-1234 646 555-4567) ) ) I think comments on the above are superfluous. I never managed to flip/reverse the pairs so that mapcar over the getl is the result of that inability. Anyway, it now basically works like I want. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Henrik Sarvell hsarv...@gmail.com wrote: OK so I've got a first draft of something simple. As opposed to what has been requested before this is NOT a web development framework in the sense of RoR or even Ring. Instead I've opted to create a simple environment from which frameworks utilizing conventions and such can be built, both a RoR type of thing or a simpler Ring style framework is possible to create from pl-web. What we have is a few basic things: 1.) An ability to inspect the current look of the URL (se line 87 and 120 in pl-web.l). 2.) File based sessions (ugly yes but will not make demands on how any database should look like). See line 109 in pl-web.l. 3.) Trying as hard as we can to utilize Linux system functions/commands in order to alleviate the need for libraries (see cmd.l). How to test: 1.) Unpack the attached file into /opt/picolisp and create /tmp/pl-web/sessions/. 2.) Create a folder called simple-web-app in /opt/picolisp/projects and paste the following into a main.l file there: (load pl-web/pl-web.l pl-web/pl-html.l) (de login (Msg) (plw-form NIL (span NIL Username:) (plw-field text username (gReq username)) (br) (span NIL Password:) (plw-field password password ) (br) (submit Submit) (br) (span NIL Msg) ) ) (de app () (fatApp (html 0 PL Web *Css NIL (div NIL (println Post: *Post Cookies: *Cookies)) (cond ((= (car *Urll) login) (ifn (and (= (gReq password) test) (= (gReq username) test)) (login (if (gReq username) User not found. Please login. ) ) (sSess 'logged-in-user test) (div NIL Login successful.) ) ) ((= (car *Urll) whoami) (div NIL (prin You are: (gSess 'logged-in-user))) ) (T (Nothing to do.)) ) ) ) ) (de start () (off *JS)) (de go () (server 8080 !start) ) 3.) Start it: henrik@henrik-laptop:/opt/picolisp$ ./pil projects/simple-web-app/main.l -go 4.) Browse to: http://localhost:8080/login and submit the form with test in both fields. 5.) Browse to: http://localhost:8080/whoami That's it, I think inspection of the code plus testing in #4 and #5 above should be enough to understand how this works. A few TODO/Thoughts: 1.) Swiping stale sessions in the sessions folder.
Re: pl-web, almost a web development framework
Ops, the httpHead redifinition part in pl-web.l can be removed, I think I thought I would need to make changes there but I did not. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Henrik Sarvell hsarv...@gmail.com wrote: OK so I've got a first draft of something simple. As opposed to what has been requested before this is NOT a web development framework in the sense of RoR or even Ring. Instead I've opted to create a simple environment from which frameworks utilizing conventions and such can be built, both a RoR type of thing or a simpler Ring style framework is possible to create from pl-web. What we have is a few basic things: 1.) An ability to inspect the current look of the URL (se line 87 and 120 in pl-web.l). 2.) File based sessions (ugly yes but will not make demands on how any database should look like). See line 109 in pl-web.l. 3.) Trying as hard as we can to utilize Linux system functions/commands in order to alleviate the need for libraries (see cmd.l). How to test: 1.) Unpack the attached file into /opt/picolisp and create /tmp/pl-web/sessions/. 2.) Create a folder called simple-web-app in /opt/picolisp/projects and paste the following into a main.l file there: (load pl-web/pl-web.l pl-web/pl-html.l) (de login (Msg) (plw-form NIL (span NIL Username:) (plw-field text username (gReq username)) (br) (span NIL Password:) (plw-field password password ) (br) (submit Submit) (br) (span NIL Msg) ) ) (de app () (fatApp (html 0 PL Web *Css NIL (div NIL (println Post: *Post Cookies: *Cookies)) (cond ((= (car *Urll) login) (ifn (and (= (gReq password) test) (= (gReq username) test)) (login (if (gReq username) User not found. Please login. ) ) (sSess 'logged-in-user test) (div NIL Login successful.) ) ) ((= (car *Urll) whoami) (div NIL (prin You are: (gSess 'logged-in-user))) ) (T (Nothing to do.)) ) ) ) ) (de start () (off *JS)) (de go () (server 8080 !start) ) 3.) Start it: henrik@henrik-laptop:/opt/picolisp$ ./pil projects/simple-web-app/main.l -go 4.) Browse to: http://localhost:8080/login and submit the form with test in both fields. 5.) Browse to: http://localhost:8080/whoami That's it, I think inspection of the code plus testing in #4 and #5 above should be enough to understand how this works. A few TODO/Thoughts: 1.) Swiping stale sessions in the sessions folder. Some kind of timeout value might be needed, if combined with a random initializer we have recreated the ugliness of PHP session handling to perfection. 2.) Port of the current xhtml.l library (which we are currently relying heavily on), as can be seen I've started a little in the pl-html.l file, all that *JS stuff etc needs to go. 3.) Some brave soul needs to create a real, clever, framework from this that is beautiful enough that it might get some attention. What was that earlier suggestion, Bumblebee? Don't know about the name though as it brings to mind something that looks so heavy it should not be able to fly, yet does. Perhaps not something we want associated with PicoLisp. 4.) If it would be possible for PL to have several databases open at the same time (I have a vague memory of discussing this at some point in the past) stuff like session handling could done through a DB instead and without making demands on the main application E/R. Comments? /Henrik Sarvell -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: pl-web, almost a web development framework
On January 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM Henrik Sarvell hsarv...@gmail.com wrote: OK so I've got a first draft of something simple. As opposed to what has been requested before this is NOT a web development framework in the sense of RoR or even Ring. But a very nice start! :-D //Jakob -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
