Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde (final conclusions)

2009-04-23 Thread Fathi Boudra
> kde-thirdparty /me prefers kde-extras cheers, Fathi -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde (final conclusions)

2009-04-22 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Mié 22 Abr 2009 13:07:02 Ana Guerrero escribió: > On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:49:33AM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > We should kill meta-kde and update meta-kde4 to some final layout. > > ... > > After leaving this issue "sleep" a couple of weeks, I am all for: > > kde-full (current kde4) > kde-m

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde (final conclusions)

2009-04-22 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:49:33AM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > We should kill meta-kde and update meta-kde4 to some final layout. > ... After leaving this issue "sleep" a couple of weeks, I am all for: kde-full (current kde4) kde-minimal kde-thirdparty And we can keep using kde-$MEANING for

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-11 Thread George Kiagiadakis
2009/4/9 Sune Vuorela : > On Wednesday 08 April 2009 20:31:04 Rainer Kluge wrote: >> Ana Guerrero schrieb: >> > - kde-minimal (just rename current kde4-mininal) I am not sure kde-core >> > longer fits. >> > - kde-full (renamed from current kde4) I agree it is clearer than kde. >> >> The real questi

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-09 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Thursday 09 April 2009 00:26:02 Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On Thursday 09 April 2009 00:49:07 Sune Vuorela wrote: > > What should be KDE? > > > > The thing that upstream ships as KDE? > > I think the "kde" package should be strongly related to what upstream ships > when they say "new KDE version

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Thursday 09 April 2009 00:49:07 Sune Vuorela wrote: > What should be KDE? > > The thing that upstream ships as KDE? I think the "kde" package should be strongly related to what upstream ships when they say "new KDE version released". That is the rule for pretty much all other packages, after

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Thursday 09 April 2009 01:56:12 Scott Kitterman wrote: > I think moving things (like games) that it's nice to provide to recommends, > so they can be removed without removing the metapackage, will defuse a lot > of the tension of these discussions. If it turns out a few too many things > get ad

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:49:07 +0200 Sune Vuorela wrote: >On Wednesday 08 April 2009 20:31:04 Rainer Kluge wrote: >> Ana Guerrero schrieb: >> > - kde-minimal (just rename current kde4-mininal) I am not sure kde-core >> > longer fits. >> > - kde-full (renamed from current kde4) I agree it is clearer t

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Wednesday 08 April 2009 20:31:04 Rainer Kluge wrote: > Ana Guerrero schrieb: > > - kde-minimal (just rename current kde4-mininal) I am not sure kde-core > > longer fits. > > - kde-full (renamed from current kde4) I agree it is clearer than kde. > > The real question is about the need of the kde/

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Rainer Kluge
Ana Guerrero schrieb: > - kde-minimal (just rename current kde4-mininal) I am not sure kde-core longer > fits. > - kde-full (renamed from current kde4) I agree it is clearer than kde. The real question is about the need of the kde/kde4/kde-full package with all this game stuff and dependencies t

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2009 m. April 8 d., Wednesday 14:23:56 Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Well, being able to say "apt-get install kde" would still be very handy. The problem with "kde" package name is its ambiguousness. Full kde is not what users want most of the time. Now they will have to explicitly choose e

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Mié 08 Abr 2009 08:23:56 Peter Eisentraut escribió: [snip] > Well, being able to say "apt-get install kde" would still be very handy. Yes, but it is a little bit confusing. Or perhaps I should say "too lax". Typing some more clearer words it's a better politic imho. -- I am two fools, I kno

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Wednesday 08 April 2009 11:52:36 Ana Guerrero wrote: > So, what about: > > - kde-minimal (just rename current kde4-mininal) I am not sure kde-core > longer fits. > - kde-full (renamed from current kde4) I agree it is clearer than kde. > - kde-development. Not only renamed from kde4-development,

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-08 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:49:33AM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > Welcome to the annual metapackages discussion. > After the emails that followed my first mail, I have realized that certainly if the 4 in the meta packages is going to be killed, the sooner, the better. So, what about: - kd

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-07 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Mar 07 Abr 2009 03:16:17 Modestas Vainius escribió: [snip] > > -keep kde4 and add kde (both do the same) > > I think we should remove such generic package names. At least when users > install kde-full, they are aware what they are getting into. > > >- and add some kde-desktop-full package that i

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2009 m. April 7 d., Tuesday 08:59:21 Sune Vuorela wrote: > do s/kde4/kde/ across meta-kde4 - and maybe make kde-minimal provide > kde-core. +1 > And maybe rename kde meta package to kde-full. +1 > -keep kde4 and add kde (both do the same) I think we should remove such generic package n

Re: meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-06 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 06:49:33 Ana Guerrero wrote: > What do you think? What is your proposal here?. do s/kde4/kde/ across meta-kde4 - and maybe make kde-minimal provide kde-core. And maybe rename kde meta package to kde-full. And nothing else. /Sune -- How can I load the bus to the hardwar

meta-kde4 and meta-kde

2009-04-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
Welcome to the annual metapackages discussion. At this moment, we have both meta-kde and meta-kde4 in unstable. meta-kde is broken since it installs kde3 packages and meta-kde4 is just a quick upload with bump dependencies to 4.2.2. We should kill meta-kde and update meta-kde4 to some final lay