Re: [pk...@debian.org: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?]

2010-03-23 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:41:18AM +0100, Adrian Knoth wrote: Hi! Do we want to complete a transition for squeeze? I remember something about libjack0.100. I guess it's also time to decide whether we want jackd2 in squeeze or not. The discussion on this topic sort of died out. Should

Re: [pk...@debian.org: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?]

2010-03-23 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 08:48, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:41:18AM +0100, Adrian Knoth wrote: Hi! Do we want to complete a transition for squeeze? I remember something about libjack0.100. I guess it's also time to decide whether we want jackd2 in

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-18 Thread Christophe Mutricy
What is our status regarding squeeze? From a VideoLANish point of view: * It seems unlikely that VLC 1.1 will be release on time for inclusion in squeeze * It would be good to have a new libdvbpsi. But I need to twist upstream's arm so that they release at last. (Will require binNMU of vlc

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-18 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 02:24:49AM +0100, David Henningsson wrote: On the other hand, for casual use of jack, a more stable version would be preferred over a more featureful one. Unfortunately, this is only half of the story. For the occasional use of jack, jackd2 is easier to use,

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-18 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 14:25:12 (CET), Adrian Knoth wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 02:24:49AM +0100, David Henningsson wrote: On the other hand, for casual use of jack, a more stable version would be preferred over a more featureful one. Unfortunately, this is only half of the story.

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-18 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am 18.03.2010 15:35, schrieb Reinhard Tartler: If you care to comment on this issue, please participate in the vote, so that we can assemble a report for the release team quickly. I am indifferent between A and B, just because I am lacking knowledge about jack internals. But either of both is

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 21:42:58 (CET), Philipp Kern wrote: It would be great if every team on track could send us a short mail to debian-rele...@lists.debian.org What is our status regarding squeeze? AFAIUI ffmpeg is done, and I'm not aware of similar pending library transitions, read: no

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am 17.03.2010 14:42, schrieb Reinhard Tartler: What is our status regarding squeeze? For the packages that I have my hands in, I'd recommend to upload a52dec ASAP to get rid of two minor but annoying bugs (#566385 and #570508). Also, I have prepared packages for the new upstream version of

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:42:04PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: Hi! How is the state of affairs wrt jack? If we want jack2 for squeeze, we should communicate this ASAP! Let's put it this way: we know that jackd1 is stable, so it qualifies for a release. If we vote against jackd2, we're

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 14:48:30 (CET), Fabian Greffrath wrote: Am 17.03.2010 14:42, schrieb Reinhard Tartler: What is our status regarding squeeze? For the packages that I have my hands in, I'd recommend to upload a52dec ASAP to get rid of two minor but annoying bugs (#566385 and #570508).

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 14:54:12 (CET), Adrian Knoth wrote: From the amount of testing, I'd vote for jackd1, from a feature perspective, I'd go for jackd2. So whoever is concerned, please share your opinion. ;) What are other distros doing? What are the plans for fedora, gentoo and opensuse?

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am 17.03.2010 15:21, schrieb Reinhard Tartler: I'll make a note to upload them soon. Thanks. Still, I don't think we should try to switch. E.g. I know that current mplayer rc3 will not work with ffmpeg 0.6, and I have no idea what else might break. Alright, fine with me. -- Dipl.-Phys.

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:54, Adrian Knoth a...@drcomp.erfurt.thur.de wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:42:04PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: Hi! How is the state of affairs wrt jack? If we want jack2 for squeeze, we should communicate this ASAP! Let's put it this way: we know that

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 03:23:11PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: From the amount of testing, I'd vote for jackd1, from a feature perspective, I'd go for jackd2. So whoever is concerned, please share your opinion. ;) What are other distros doing? What are the plans for fedora, gentoo and

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am 17.03.2010 16:15, schrieb Adrian Knoth: I have absolutely no idea about their plans. ;) So maybe we should also stick to jack1 for queeze, make jack2 the default post-squeeze and kindly ask the backports team to provide jack2 packages for squeeze afterwards. -- Dipl.-Phys. Fabian

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 04:41:08PM +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote: Am 17.03.2010 16:15, schrieb Adrian Knoth: I have absolutely no idea about their plans. ;) So maybe we should also stick to jack1 for queeze, make jack2 the default post-squeeze and kindly ask the backports team to provide

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:55, Adrian Knoth a...@drcomp.erfurt.thur.de wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:20:17AM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: So whoever is concerned, please share your opinion. ;) I would think that at this stage of Linux audio, trying to do pro audio with a stable release

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 13:50, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:23:03PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: Also, if my understanding is correct, jack2 is ABI compatible with jack1, so no library transition is needed. That was my impression too.  If so, why don't we

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 17:13:14 (CET), Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 04:41:08PM +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote: Am 17.03.2010 16:15, schrieb Adrian Knoth: I have absolutely no idea about their plans. ;) So maybe we should also stick to jack1 for queeze, make jack2 the

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:09:33PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 13:50, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:23:03PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: Also, if my understanding is correct, jack2 is ABI compatible with jack1, so no library

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:09:33PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 13:50, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:23:03PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: Also, if my understanding is correct, jack2 is ABI compatible with jack1, so no library

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 06:24:10PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:09:33PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 13:50, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:23:03PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: Also, if my understanding is

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:24:43PM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:09:33PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 13:50, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:23:03PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: Also, if my understanding

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:29:31PM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 06:24:10PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:09:33PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 13:50, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 14:46, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:29:31PM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 06:24:10PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:09:33PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 03:24:19PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 14:46, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: What I propose is to ship the new code as a separate source package and a separate binary package.  The binary package will conflict with the similar binary

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 15:56, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: There is a problem, though. The library names collide, so one would have to have libjack1-0 and libjack2-0. This would mean that the shlibs files would have to provide alternative dependencies (like ffmpeg is doing for the

Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-17 Thread David Henningsson
Adrian Knoth wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:20:17AM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On the other hand, for casual use of jack, a more stable version would be preferred over a more featureful one. Unfortunately, this is only half of the story. For the occasional use of jack, jackd2 is easier

[pk...@debian.org: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?]

2010-03-16 Thread Adrian Knoth
: Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org To: debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org Subject: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze? Dear fellow developers, we all want to get out squeeze as soon as possible. Currently we are still at 400 bugs concerning the next stable release, with 300 of them