Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Andreas Boll]

2016-09-17 2:44 GMT+02:00 Nicholas D Steeves :
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 04:58:28PM +0200, Andreas Boll wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> my name is Andreas Boll, I'm a Debian Maintainer and I'd like to officially 
>> become part of the Debian Multimedia Team.
>> I'm also a member of the Debian X Strike Force where I co-maintain Mesa and 
>> related packages.
>>
>> I'm currently working on a backport of a newer version of Mesa and had to 
>> backport some additional packages. One of these packages is vdpau-video. So 
>> I'm maintaining the backport of vdpau-video for jessie-backports since 
>> yesterday (Thanks mapreri for sponsoring!).
>
> Hi Andreas,
>
> It's good to hear from you!  Out of curiosity, are you participating
> in the jessie+backports installer image effort? (IIRC, the "Jessie
> half release" thread on -devel)
>
> Cheers,
> Nicholas

Hi Nicholas,

not yet, but I'm planning to participate.

Thanks,
Andreas

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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Nicholas D Steeves]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 04:58:28PM +0200, Andreas Boll wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> my name is Andreas Boll, I'm a Debian Maintainer and I'd like to officially 
> become part of the Debian Multimedia Team.
> I'm also a member of the Debian X Strike Force where I co-maintain Mesa and 
> related packages.
> 
> I'm currently working on a backport of a newer version of Mesa and had to 
> backport some additional packages. One of these packages is vdpau-video. So 
> I'm maintaining the backport of vdpau-video for jessie-backports since 
> yesterday (Thanks mapreri for sponsoring!).

Hi Andreas,

It's good to hear from you!  Out of curiosity, are you participating
in the jessie+backports installer image effort? (IIRC, the "Jessie
half release" thread on -devel)

Cheers,
Nicholas


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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Andreas Boll (2016-09-16 16:58:28)
> my name is Andreas Boll, I'm a Debian Maintainer and I'd like to 
> officially become part of the Debian Multimedia Team.
> I'm also a member of the Debian X Strike Force where I co-maintain 
> Mesa and related packages.
> 
> I'm currently working on a backport of a newer version of Mesa and had 
> to backport some additional packages. One of these packages is 
> vdpau-video. So I'm maintaining the backport of vdpau-video for 
> jessie-backports since yesterday (Thanks mapreri for sponsoring!).
> 
> I already have an alioth account and joined the pkg-multimedia group.
> I'm subscribed to pkg-multimedia-maintainers and 
> pkg-multimedia-commits mailing lists.
> I'm familiar with handling bugs in Debian and I agree to review other 
> work to my best knowledge.

Welcome aboard, Andreas!

Sounds like you are well settled already, but if in doubt, just shout!

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Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Andreas Boll]

Hi,

my name is Andreas Boll, I'm a Debian Maintainer and I'd like to officially 
become part of the Debian Multimedia Team.
I'm also a member of the Debian X Strike Force where I co-maintain Mesa and 
related packages.

I'm currently working on a backport of a newer version of Mesa and had to 
backport some additional packages. One of these packages is vdpau-video. So I'm 
maintaining the backport of vdpau-video for jessie-backports since yesterday 
(Thanks mapreri for sponsoring!).

I already have an alioth account and joined the pkg-multimedia group.
I'm subscribed to pkg-multimedia-maintainers and pkg-multimedia-commits mailing 
lists.
I'm familiar with handling bugs in Debian and I agree to review other work to 
my best knowledge.

Thanks,
Andreas


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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Ross Gammon]

On 05/16/2016 04:38 PM, Lucio Carreras wrote:
> Hi Ross, thank you!

You're welcome :-)

> But I don't find a tutorial that mentions how to upload the public key
> for the git repository.
> https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git only tells that I should use ssh but
> I get a public key error.

https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/SSH may be better.

> Other issues:
> 1. The Packaging with Git tutorials says, that I just have to call
>  gbp import-dsc /path/to/package_0.1-1.dsc
> 
>It's true, everything is imported but the directory structure is not as
>it is described in the tutorial
> 
>  $ ls
>  package/
>  package_0.1-1.orig.tar.gz

I would do:
mkdir sayonara
cd sayonara
git init
gbp import-dsc --pristine-tar /path/to/package_0.1-1.dsc

(It is also a good idea to add the --sign-tags option to the import
command, to sign the tags with your gpg key at the same time. But you
can always do it later).

>In my case there's no tar.gz file in the repository afterwards and no
>extra directory of my package. Just the files and directories which are
>located inside the my source tree. Also the debian directory shows up
>in the upstream as well as in the master branch. git diff master
> upstream
>shows no diffs between master and upstream. The tags are available.

The tarball should not be inside the repository. When you do the next
upstream release, you normally run uscan from inside the repository,
which downloads the tarball to ../ and renames it to *orig.tar.gz. Then
import it with:
gbp import-orig --pristine-tar /path/to/package_0.1-1.dsc

Using --pristine-tar, because this allows someone else (e.g. me) to
recreate the tarball from the git repository without having to download
it manually.

> 2. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/DevelopPackaging:
>"The git repository should be hosted in alioth, under the pkg-multimedia
>project. It should forward commit messages to
>pkg-multimedia-comm...@lists.alioth.debian.org and
>dispatch+pack...@tracker.debian.org"
> 
>I am relatively new to git and I could not find anything in the www. How
>can I do that?

Don't worry - I have already done it :-)

Once you have the import sorted out, and the SSH key up at Alioth, you
can push the repository using:
$ git remote add origin
git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-multimedia/sayonara.git
$ git push --all --set-upstream
$ git push --tags

>"Do not commit debian/changelog along with the changes. This practice
> makes
> cherry picking and backporting changes unnecessarily hard."
> 
>How do users and especially testers know what has changed?

Just do the changelog last. You can automate a lot of this using gbp dch
(and editing out all the mistake commits that the users don't need to
read :-) )
See:
http://honk.sigxcpu.org/projects/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.releases.html

>"To indicate that the package is ready for upload, update
> debian/changelog
>to include the target distribution"
>I thought I should not commit it?

Some of the documentation out there is contradictory, as different
Debian Teams have slightly different workflows. I normally do the
changelog after I have finished a series of commits, and it is either
ready for upload, or I don't plan to do any more work for a while.
Someone else on the team can then pick it up and finish it if they have
the urge (normally after checking with you first).

> As you can see, I am a little bit confused right now. Any help is
> appreciated.

I hope that helps! Otherwise, just keep asking.




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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Lucio Carreras]

Thank you!

On 05/16/2016 06:02 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

Quoting Lucio Carreras (2016-05-16 16:38:49)

But I don't find a tutorial that mentions how to upload the public key
for the git repository.
https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git only tells that I should use ssh but
I get a public key error.

https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/SSH

Welcome aboard!

  - Jonas



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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Lucio Carreras (2016-05-16 16:38:49)
> But I don't find a tutorial that mentions how to upload the public key 
> for the git repository.
> https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git only tells that I should use ssh but 
> I get a public key error.

https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/SSH

Welcome aboard!

 - Jonas

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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Lucio Carreras]

Hi Ross, thank you!

But I don't find a tutorial that mentions how to upload the public key 
for the git repository.
https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git only tells that I should use ssh but 
I get a public key error.


Other issues:
1. The Packaging with Git tutorials says, that I just have to call
 gbp import-dsc /path/to/package_0.1-1.dsc

   It's true, everything is imported but the directory structure is not as
   it is described in the tutorial

 $ ls
 package/
 package_0.1-1.orig.tar.gz


   In my case there's no tar.gz file in the repository afterwards and no
   extra directory of my package. Just the files and directories which are
   located inside the my source tree. Also the debian directory shows up
   in the upstream as well as in the master branch. git diff master 
upstream

   shows no diffs between master and upstream. The tags are available.

2. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/DevelopPackaging:
   "The git repository should be hosted in alioth, under the 
pkg-multimedia

   project. It should forward commit messages to
   pkg-multimedia-comm...@lists.alioth.debian.org and
   dispatch+pack...@tracker.debian.org"

   I am relatively new to git and I could not find anything in the www. How
   can I do that?

   "Do not commit debian/changelog along with the changes. This 
practice makes

cherry picking and backporting changes unnecessarily hard."

   How do users and especially testers know what has changed?

   "To indicate that the package is ready for upload, update 
debian/changelog

   to include the target distribution"
   I thought I should not commit it?

As you can see, I am a little bit confused right now. Any help is 
appreciated.


Greetings,
Michael






On 05/14/2016 05:38 PM, Ross Gammon wrote:

On 05/14/2016 05:16 PM, Lucio Carreras wrote:

Hi Ross,

that would be nice :)

Done - repository is ready.


I am currently reading the packaging tutorials.

Just ask if you have any questions..

Ross



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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Ross Gammon]

On 05/14/2016 05:16 PM, Lucio Carreras wrote:
> Hi Ross,
> 
> that would be nice :)

Done - repository is ready.

> 
> I am currently reading the packaging tutorials.

Just ask if you have any questions..

Ross



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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Lucio Carreras]

Hi Ross,

that would be nice :)

I am currently reading the packaging tutorials.

Greetings,
Michael


2016-05-14 16:43 GMT+02:00 Ross Gammon :

> Hi Michael,
>
> Welcome to the team, I just added you on Alioth.
>
> On 05/14/2016 04:00 PM, Lucio Carreras wrote:
> > I am applying for the
> > pkg-multimedia team to maintain the package sayonara which has been
> > started and written by myself for about 5 years.
>
> If you like, I can set up the repository for sayonara, ready for you to
> push to. Just let me know.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ross
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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Ross Gammon]

Hi Michael,

Welcome to the team, I just added you on Alioth.

On 05/14/2016 04:00 PM, Lucio Carreras wrote:
> I am applying for the
> pkg-multimedia team to maintain the package sayonara which has been
> started and written by myself for about 5 years.

If you like, I can set up the repository for sayonara, ready for you to
push to. Just let me know.

Regards,

Ross



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Joining pkg-multimedia team

[Lucio Carreras]

Hello altogether,

My name is Michael Lugmair also known as Lucio Carreras in open source 
projects. I am a software developer in Germany, currently in the Java 
world but formally a Linux programmer. I am using Debian-based 
distributions for about 12 years now. I am applying for the 
pkg-multimedia team to maintain the package sayonara which has been 
started and written by myself for about 5 years.


I have created an alioth account, subsribed to the 
pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list and also subscribed to the 
pkg-multimedia-commits mailing list. I am familiar with managing bugs in 
debian, but I'm still a rookie and most of my knowledge is theoretical. 
I also agree to review others work.


I hope that I can enrich features of Debian and Ubuntu with my software. 
I hope, that this package won't be the only one I can contribute.


Greetings,
Michael

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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia

[Felipe Sateler]

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Balint Reczey bal...@balintreczey.hu wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm Balint Reczey [1], and I would like to join the Multimedia Team.

 I maintain the xbmc package which depend on many packages maintained by
 the team. I also maintain other packages which are less relevant.
 While I agree to review other's work I would like to focus on xbmc which
 is a quite big package IMO.

 I already have an alioth account (rbalint) and I have already subscribed
 to pkg-multimedia-maintainers and pkg-multimedia-commits.

I have just added you to the project. Welcome!


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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia

[Bálint Réczey]

2014-02-04 Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org:
 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Balint Reczey bal...@balintreczey.hu wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm Balint Reczey [1], and I would like to join the Multimedia Team.

 I maintain the xbmc package which depend on many packages maintained by
 the team. I also maintain other packages which are less relevant.
 While I agree to review other's work I would like to focus on xbmc which
 is a quite big package IMO.

 I already have an alioth account (rbalint) and I have already subscribed
 to pkg-multimedia-maintainers and pkg-multimedia-commits.

 I have just added you to the project. Welcome!
Thank you!

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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia

[Alessio Treglia]

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Balint Reczey bal...@balintreczey.hu wrote:
 I'm Balint Reczey [1], and I would like to join the Multimedia Team.

Welcome aboard Balint!

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Joining pkg-multimedia

[Balint Reczey]

Hi,

I'm Balint Reczey [1], and I would like to join the Multimedia Team.

I maintain the xbmc package which depend on many packages maintained by
the team. I also maintain other packages which are less relevant.
While I agree to review other's work I would like to focus on xbmc which
is a quite big package IMO.

I already have an alioth account (rbalint) and I have already subscribed
to pkg-multimedia-maintainers and pkg-multimedia-commits.

Cheers,
Balint

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About upstream project MPD_sima (Was Joining pkg-multimedia / mpd-sima package)

[Geoffroy Youri Berret]

Hi Jonas, the Team,

I split the reply in two parts since the discussion concerning upstream projet
is off topic IMO.

Le 12/06/2011 17:18, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
 On 11-06-12 at 11:32am, Geoffroy Youri Berret wrote:
 […]
 I'm upstream author for MPD_sima,
 
 […]
 Hope you might be intrigued by my ideas:

Indeed, users feedback are essentials, I'm grateful for your opinion.

 Album mode
 --
 
 I often enjoy music as complete works, respecting the playing order 
 originally chosen by the musicians when they composed the album.  Would 
 be nice if MPD_sima optionally would add albums rather than single 
 songs.

I completely agree on that, albums are entities that happened to be split into
singles for broadcasting and commercial reasons.
An album queue mode is available in MPD_sima since v0.7.0.
You have to set queue_mode option to album in the configuration file (not
available on command line).

 Prioritize manual selections
 
 
 My music collection contains some non-mainstream stuff. Current logic of 
 MPD_sima cause it to slowly degenerate into pop music (stuff appearing 
 both in top-5 results from last.fm queries and in my collection).  Would 
 be nice if MPD_sima would remember last manually selected tune and 
 (optionally?) take that into account as guidance, to go in circles 
 around that instead of drifting off at random[…].

There is actually something approaching available in MPD_sima.
Users can add to the internal database similarities of their choices thanks to
a command line tool. These similarities are used in addition to last.fm
similarities, the level of similarities can be used to override last.fm
recommendations.
But well, for now the CLI is quite cryptic and needs some improvements to be
more user friendly.


 Musicbrainz support
 ---
 […]

 Offline support
 ---
 
 I am involved in the FreedomBox[2] project - about user-friendly, 
 decentralized services.  Would be cool if MPD_sima could be used in an 
 autonomous mode, independently from centralistic services like last.fm.
 […]
It is my concern as well to provide services independent from closed and
centralized services like last.fm. I'm expecting libre.fm to provide someday
features similar to last.fm.
In the meantime it looks like MusicBrainz is a rather mature alternative.
I'm already working on supporting MusicBrainz ID in MPD_sima, but I can
obviously take advantage of these other aspects of MusicBrainz database.
I'll try to take time to have a look at it, thanks for pointing it out.

 I imagine to use Musicbrainz tagging as mentioned above, or other tags 
 as well - e.g. the genre which (as I understand it) is commonly gathered 
 also with cddb.  Would then (especially with cddb) need a text-fuzzying 
 algorithm to treat e.g. electronic and Electronica as equal.
I've been thinking about using genre tag to find artists to queue, as you
mentioned, this is prone to spelling mistake and fuzziness since there are no
standards for genre. That part is not crucial as MPD_sima is already shipping a
fuzzy matching engine to get the right artist name, it could be use for other
strings. The reason why I did not use genre back then is that it is not
refining enough while looking for artists, at least it was not enough for my
taste :). But well, I guess it could suit others listeners habits.


 I have interest in semantic web and RDF.  Would it be interesting for 
 you to try make MPD_sima able to query a local database, if I put 
 together one such database service?
It is quite premature for me now, but I'll get back to you as soon as I have a
better idea of what is possible and what I want to push into MPD_sima.


Another approach I'de like to try, maybe implement in MPD_sima, is Music
Information Retrieval (aka MIR), using pure signal processing techniques to get
a track profil. These techniques are independent of external database, all
needed information is gathered from the sound track itself (the sound signal
not meta-data).
This is the way banshee plugin named Mirage is working.


Thanks for your ideas Jonas :)

Kind regards,
   Geoffroy

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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia / mpd-sima package

[Geoffroy Youri Berret]

Hi Jonas, the Team,

Le 12/06/2011 17:18, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
 On 11-06-12 at 11:32am, Geoffroy Youri Berret wrote:
  The package for the last upstream version already received a review 
  from debian-mentors@ and is uploaded to mentors as 0.8.0-2.
 Here we do teamwork, not sponsoring.  So no need for you to use that 
 service any longer.  Instead (when we've sorted out the practicalities 
 so you have write access) use our team Git area at Alioth directly, and 
 use this mailinglist for questions regarding the packaging and for 
 requests for release by one of us that has upload rights to Debian.
  How should I proceed now ?
 Did you read our wiki pages at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia?  
 There's even a page specifically covering how you join our team ;-)

Indeed, I guess I missed some points.

Well
 * I have subscribed to pkg-multimedia-(maintainers|commits)
 * My alioth account is kaliko-guest
 * I'm quite familiar with the BTS
 * I agree to review others work

Concerning git packaging, I'm still not quite confident with git but I'm
working on it, I'm getting familiar with this tool and start enjoying this way
of thinking VCS or actually DVCS (I'm coming from subversion…). Then expect me
to ask for help once in a while :)

Should I send a request to join the Team through alioth web interface or is
this thread enough?

Kind regards,
   Geoffroy

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Re: About upstream project MPD_sima (Was Joining pkg-multimedia / mpd-sima package)

[Jonas Smedegaard]

On 11-06-15 at 02:35pm, Geoffroy Youri Berret wrote:
 An album queue mode is available in MPD_sima since v0.7.0.
 You have to set queue_mode option to album in the configuration 
 file (not available on command line).

Ah, nice!


  Prioritize manual selections
  
  
  My music collection contains some non-mainstream stuff. Current 
  logic of MPD_sima cause it to slowly degenerate into pop music 
  (stuff appearing both in top-5 results from last.fm queries and in 
  my collection).  Would be nice if MPD_sima would remember last 
  manually selected tune and (optionally?) take that into account as 
  guidance, to go in circles around that instead of drifting off at 
  random[…].
 
 There is actually something approaching available in MPD_sima.
 Users can add to the internal database similarities of their choices 
 thanks to a command line tool. These similarities are used in addition 
 to last.fm similarities, the level of similarities can be used to 
 override last.fm recommendations.
 But well, for now the CLI is quite cryptic and needs some improvements 
 to be more user friendly.

Hmm - I gotta play some with that option, then.  Thanks for the hint!


  Musicbrainz support
  ---
  […]
 
  Offline support
  ---
  
  I am involved in the FreedomBox[2] project - about user-friendly, 
  decentralized services.  Would be cool if MPD_sima could be used in an 
  autonomous mode, independently from centralistic services like last.fm.
  […]
 It is my concern as well to provide services independent from closed 
 and centralized services like last.fm. I'm expecting libre.fm to 
 provide someday features similar to last.fm.

libre.fm is non-commercial, but still central.

Perhaps my request is quite simple (on your part): Please make last.fm 
URL configurable.

Then for my FreedomBox dreams, I could run a local app translating 
last.fm queries into SPARQL requests or Musicbrainz lookups either 
locally or among friendly FreedomBoxes.


 I'm already working on supporting MusicBrainz ID in MPD_sima, but I 
 can obviously take advantage of these other aspects of MusicBrainz 
 database. I'll try to take time to have a look at it, thanks for 
 pointing it out.

Nice!

Again - please then make Musicbrainz URL configurable ;-)


  I have interest in semantic web and RDF.  Would it be interesting 
  for you to try make MPD_sima able to query a local database, if I 
  put together one such database service?
 It is quite premature for me now, but I'll get back to you as soon as 
 I have a better idea of what is possible and what I want to push into 
 MPD_sima.

Looking forward to that :-D


 Another approach I'de like to try, maybe implement in MPD_sima, is 
 Music Information Retrieval (aka MIR), using pure signal processing 
 techniques to get a track profil. These techniques are independent 
 of external database, all needed information is gathered from the 
 sound track itself (the sound signal not meta-data).

I don't know MIR, but sounds like the mechanism bahind MusicBrainz IDs.

You might then be interested in Debian package acoustid-fingerprinter - 
part of Acoustid, a project claiming to be a more free alternative to 
Musicbrainz: http://acoustid.org/ .



 - Jonas

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Re: Joining pkg-multimedia / mpd-sima package

[Jonas Smedegaard]

On 11-06-15 at 02:37pm, Geoffroy Youri Berret wrote:
 Should I send a request to join the Team through alioth web interface 
 or is this thread enough?

Please use the web interface at Alioth.

Welcome to the team!


 - Jonas

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Joining pkg-multimedia / mpd-sima package

[Geoffroy Youri Berret]

Hi Multimedia Team :)

I recently got my package, mpd-sima, uploaded thanks to Michael Tautschnig who
sponsored it.

A new upstream version has been released and triggered #628911. Following
Jonas advice (cf. [0]), I'd like to join the team to maintain mpd-sima.

The package for the last upstream version already received a review from
debian-mentors@ and is uploaded to mentors as 0.8.0-2.

I did open an account on alioth (under kaliko-guest).
How should I proceed now ?

About me:
=
I'm upstream author for MPD_sima, I've been using debian since Sarge.
I've learnt debian packaging recently when I noticed MPD_sima was available in
Arch/Linux and not for my distro :)
My involvement in the Debian project is summarized on my wiki page at
debian.org [1], I'm mainly an advanced user writing code as a hobby.


About MPD_sima:
===
MPD_sima is an autoqueue client for MPD [2]. It is a non interactive client
running as a daemon, it queues tracks following last.fm recommendations.


[0] http://bugs.debian.org/628911
[1] http://wiki.debian.org/GeoffB
[2] upstream forge http://codingteam.net/project/sima


Kind regards
 Geoffroy Youri Berret

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