numbers. I.e. you go from Desktop n to Desktop n +
1 when scrolling down.
Can this be reversed?
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Date: Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Subject: Help
To: ch...@kde.org
Dear Chani,
I use Linux Open SUSE in Oracle Virtual Box. Everything is working
fine except for one: I cannot get the mouse wheel to work
Hi Chani,
I am new KDE user.
Recently I am using your Switch Desktop function with Mouse Actions.
I want to suggest that if Switch Desktop can custom the direction of
virtual Desktop switing.
It would be better.
Currently when i Vertical-Scroll down it function like virtual desktop
2 - virtual
people to benefit from your patch too, you can either submit
it to the plasma team, or put your own plugin up on kde-apps.org.
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, but setting
d-immutability isn't it ;)
...also note that, once you set SystemImmutable, you can't unset it. at least
that's how the code read to me. so test that kiosk can both lock *and* unlock
things ;)
- Chani
On 2010-11-10 16:39:31, Lubos Lunak wrote
SVN commit 1194120 by chani:
containments with invalid ID are deleted instead of respawning
(unless the activitymanager is down, of course)
do you think I should do the same for all orphans, if a migration has
already happened?
CCMAIL:plasma-devel@kde.org
M +9 -11 desktopcorona.cpp
a developer and probably want to know the literal strings).
so maybe I shouldn't have messages.sh after all?
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so... uhm... I've run into a rather compelling use case for being able
to read and copy the full text of notifications:
http://chani.ca/sshots/mailfail.png
it seem gmail won't let me use kmail until I visit that url (at least,
I *hope* visiting that url would fix it, because just logging in
it was removed...
but since it was still *writing* it and just not reading it, my guess would be
that someone wasn't paying attention and removed it accidentally.
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, though, or saving and
restoring multiple activities.
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found out about it :).
perhaps we should add an importLayout that takes a KConfigGroup, mark
the importLayout which takes a KConfigBase as deprecaton and have it call
the new one.
then we have a nice api with symmetry?
Chani Armitage wrote:
so... void Corona
found out about it :).
perhaps we should add an importLayout that takes a KConfigGroup, mark
the importLayout which takes a KConfigBase as deprecaton and have it call
the new one.
then we have a nice api with symmetry?
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so... void Corona
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this should probably take a KConfigGroup, since KConfigGroup can refer
to the top level item, e.g. the whole config file, using the magic
QString() name for the group.
the magic qstring thing means it takes two lines to call exportLayout. what's
the benefit?
hey guys, some of you may remember me rambling about actvities and session
support. :) I've actually been working on this recently and I'd like some
feedback from people who know more about the technologies involved.
now, in my current plan, closing an actvity will go something like this:
On September 24, 2010 20:41:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Friday, September 24, 2010, Chani wrote:
and while one may question whether deleting should be allowed while
locked, stopping while locked makes perfect sense.
so i just ran across a related issue today on b.k.o[1]: when a new desktop
On September 24, 2010 18:24:33 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Friday, September 24, 2010, Chani wrote:
On September 24, 2010 14:03:23 Chani Armitage wrote:
SVN commit 1179043 by chani:
Use an X property for activity associations
the new property name is _KDE_NET_WM_ACTIVITIES
On September 25, 2010 14:41:21 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Saturday 25 September 2010 12:20:33 Chani wrote:
On September 24, 2010 18:24:33 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Friday, September 24, 2010, Chani wrote:
On September 24, 2010 14:03:23 Chani Armitage wrote:
SVN commit 1179043 by chani
obvious...
Diffs
-
trunk/KDE/kdelibs/plasma/corona.cpp 1177115
trunk/KDE/kdelibs/plasma/corona.h 1177115
Diff: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/5451/diff
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closing an activity while locked is perfectly safe now :)
Thanks,
Chani
[this is a summary of an irc discussion today...]
so, I finally found out how to reproduce the elusive activity-duplication bug.
:)
it happens when plasma is locked: stopping the activity copies its config out
to a separate file, then tries to remove it from plasma-desktop-appletsrc, but
SVN commit 1179043 by chani:
Use an X property for activity associations
the new property name is _KDE_NET_WM_ACTIVITIES, of type XA_STRING,
and it's a comma-separated list of activity UUIDs.
kwin should respond to other processes changing the activity list for a
window, and filter out any
On September 24, 2010 14:03:23 Chani Armitage wrote:
SVN commit 1179043 by chani:
Use an X property for activity associations
the new property name is _KDE_NET_WM_ACTIVITIES, of type XA_STRING,
and it's a comma-separated list of activity UUIDs.
so, who's interested in upgrading
On September 24, 2010 14:51:54 Marco Martin wrote:
On Friday 24 September 2010, Chani wrote:
what we're going to do about this in trunk: the code for the activity
stopping will be moved into Corona under a name like exportLayout (to
mirror importLayout). it won't actually know about
* Activities
- i still have to understand if i really want activities on plasma
netbook/mobile or if containments are enough for the job
iirc at akademy we agreed it was better... although there was some talk about
getting the session stuff stable first? hrm. should've written things
...btw, anyone feel like updating the wiki page (mentioned at the start of
this thread) with the conclusions we came to? :)
done. http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Multiscreen
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On September 7, 2010 10:01:57 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Tuesday, August 31, 2010 21:37:15 Chani wrote:
On August 31, 2010 04:41:11 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 22:27:12 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
as for thumbnails .. it's likely posible to do so for currently
Good design implies that less-used features are made less pronounced. I for
one find the whole widget toolbar too intrusive. I put my widgets
side-by-side on the desktop, and during normal use the toolbar on one
widget will overlap the one besides it, obscuring its contents. I would be
I need your assistance to provide me with the question that I have
written in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224666
Let me write it again.
This bug was still present in version 4.4.5-1 in Debian Squeeze.
hmmm. did you try clearing /var/tmp/ ?
On August 19, 2010 09:17:27 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, August 19, 2010, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Heya folks :)
I need mentors for a GSoC-like program in Canada asap so please get
back to me within the next two days.
What's needed:
- a mentor who can come to Toronto from October
so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments of
multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has
improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regression - you can't access
the containment of a screen that's not plugged in. the same applies to the
On August 18, 2010 03:15:13 Marco Martin wrote:
On Wednesday 18 August 2010, Chani wrote:
so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments
of multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has
improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regression
On August 18, 2010 10:05:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote:
so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments
of multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has
improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regression
On August 18, 2010 11:17:53 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote:
so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the
containments
of
multiple screens, in 4.5
On August 18, 2010 13:24:43 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
On August 18, 2010 10:05:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote:
so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the
containments of multiple screens
On August 18, 2010 20:05:00 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
On August 18, 2010 13:24:43 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote:
On August 18, 2010 10:05:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote
right; but that doesn't really have anything to do with the activity, per
se.
it does, that's the problem. :)
...and in any case, all I wanted to do was give a warning that there's bad
code in there that likes to throw up nasty surprises, so this whole
conversation is a bit silly
plasmoid
too :)
- Chani
On 2010-08-17 19:01:14, Sinny Kumari wrote:
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On August 11, 2010 15:56:59 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Wednesday, August 11, 2010, Chani wrote:
On August 11, 2010 14:42:04 Marco Martin wrote:
On Wednesday 11 August 2010, Vitor Boschi wrote:
We may put a preview button that displays the wallpaper fullscreen,
while hiding the config
On July 19, 2010 14:35:21 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On July 19, 2010, Chani wrote:
someone adjusted the list thingy that the add-widgets and
activity-manager UIs use so that it's prettier and shows the names on
top. I like it :) but they missed something: the little icons that the
activity
aww crap, I don't have any jabber client installed. and my internet is
being weird this morning. and I don't know how to get to a conference.
don't move meetings at the last minute, darnit :(
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Ivan Čukić ivan.cu...@kde.org wrote:
fine with me, if I succeed in
(re-crossposting - I'm subscribed to nepomuk now, or I would've missed this :)
On July 20, 2010 08:21:59 Sebastian Trüg wrote:
Don't worry. Everything is in playground.
er... the mandriva smart desktop stuff is in playground? where?
(also.. I dunno if playground truly counts as upstream.
I'd need a method or a signal *always called* and called *always after*
restore, but i couldn't find any.
Do you have any hint? Should it be added to Containment?
I thought init came after restore... that's why you don't set default sizes in
init :)
On July 18, 2010 23:35:39 Aaron Peterson wrote:
Please check my understanding:
Does panel == containment?
http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Vocabulary Does not list
panel, but it does list containment.
yes. specifically, there are PanelContainment and CustomPanelContainment in
the
On July 19, 2010 03:13:35 Aaron Peterson wrote:
some applets give you a data that can make sense in a small horizontal
(or vertical) strip, some other really can't, so an iconic
representation is all can be done, and even all that makes sense (think
bout the start menu, you really want it
someone adjusted the list thingy that the add-widgets and activity-manager UIs
use so that it's prettier and shows the names on top. I like it :) but they
missed something: the little icons that the activity manager draws on top
(and, most likely, the corresponding click area for the stop
On July 19, 2010 01:55:22 Ivan Čukić wrote:
This is just an idea that came to me looking at some mobile GUIs (or was
it websites?), but I think that could really work in order to have the
common user find out our best features.
What do you think?
problems with those things is that
On July 19, 2010 11:19:31 Ivan Čukić wrote:
speaking of which... *coughs* we still don't have a Welcome Plasmoid, do
we?
Yep :) Well, this would be nice to have in the welcome plasmoid, but
it would be a *huge* thing to implement.
gotta start somewhere...
hey, I was wondering... have you guys seen this?
http://doc4.mandriva.org/bin/view/labs/New+features+toward+the+task+oriented+desktop
and http://doc4.mandriva.org/bin/view/labs/Mandriva_Smart_Desktop_2010-0
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Hello, I have a general feeling that we cannot nest panels, I am
hoping that this is not true.
it is true.
What would it take to make a widget that is a panel?
technically, all panels are widgets already - but I'm guessing that's not what
On July 16, 2010 05:46:22 Ivan Čukić wrote:
Sebastian and me are planning to hold a meeting about activities on
Tuesday, 5PM UTC.
It is going to be about the inner-workings rather than the UI.
So, anyone willing to join is more than welcome.
cool :) 10am tuesday... yes, that works for
Activities IRC meeting
*When*
Tue, 20 July, 7pm – 8pm GMT+02:00
*Who*
erm... there's no where mentioned. :)
#plasma? #nepomuk?
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On July 15, 2010 07:35:10 Ryan Rix wrote:
On Wed 14 July 2010 10:32:19 pm Chani wrote:
On July 14, 2010 10:26:49 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On July 14, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
i think windows outside of the current activity should be hidden from
the taskbar, at least by default
On July 15, 2010 17:22:24 Markus Slopianka wrote:
On Thursday 15 July 2010 17:57:11 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
aaron's advocatei really dislike text-on-graphics from a design
perspective. text is fine detail, and a progress bar is visually fairly
complex. maybe it's time to think outside the
I was doing some thinking on the bus... and I like this scoring idea.
some more random thoughts:
there's a temporal aspect to all this, isn't there? I mean, there are
resources that were related to my activity in the past - many of which may be
useful for it again in the future. and
On July 13, 2010 22:46:52 Nate C wrote:
Is there any equivelent to QGraphicsWidget::closeEvent for a plasma
applet. I need to shutdown a QThread on the close event, but can not
figure anything out. Plasma::Applet subclasses QGraphicsWidget, so
should I not get it for free? (I am using the
the problem is:
i think windows outside of the current activity should be hidden from the
taskbar, at least by default.
and this must be done in 4.5, otherwise will cause another ser revolt.
I agree that they should be hidden.
I'm not against doing it in 4.5, if someone can do it without
this
system.
Chani could probably tell you more.
the kwin thing isn't saved at all right now. it's just stored in kwin, and
lost when it restarts.
I had hoped to make it persistent before 4.5 came out... but... on the other
hand, I want more time to consider *how* it should be done, properly
On July 14, 2010 03:16:15 Sebastian Trüg wrote:
On 07/14/2010 11:53 AM, Ivan Čukić wrote:
First of all, I hope you are on plasma-devel since a lot of people
didn't take me seriously concerning the cross-posting...
did not find the thread in stupid thunderbird (if only kmail would work
On July 14, 2010 10:26:49 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On July 14, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
i think windows outside of the current activity should be hidden from the
taskbar, at least by default.
yes, that makes sense.
and this must be done in 4.5,
only if it can be done in a way that is
what's all this event stuff? are you doing.. something like zeitgeist or
something?
indeed. Only integrated with Nepomuk and the semantic desktop. Allows
for some cool things.
oh? :)
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On July 14, 2010, Sebastian Trüg wrote:
The idea on my end is to create nuao:DesktopEvent instances which link
to the opened file and the application opening it. For the latter the
that sounds very sensible, and would get rid of the false
On July 14, 2010 21:15:23 Ryan Rix wrote:
On Wed 14 July 2010 8:41:57 am Marco Martin wrote:
just a reminder for everybody
meeting at 9:00 am UTC
tomorrow 15th
So..
I'm a ... how can I put this nicely? A dork. I'm a dork. Right before
sending my hey, yeah 9UTC WORKSFORME I sent a
On July 13, 2010 06:13:15 Ivan Čukić wrote:
a.s. This is a cross-post
hmm, so it is. I'm only on the plasma list, and I see we've already
uncrossposted the thread there :)
1. The ActivityManager (KDED module) now accepts application name/id
when the application notifies it that it has
On July 13, 2010 12:57:35 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On July 13, 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote:
a.s. This is a cross-post
Hi,
A few notifications and questions.
1. The ActivityManager (KDED module) now accepts application name/id
when the application notifies it that it has opened a
On Monday, July 12, 2010 03:04:42 am Markus Slopianka wrote:
On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote:
unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough
to make people not wanting to use those
Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actually
On Monday, July 12, 2010 04:09:44 am Marco Martin wrote:
On Monday 12 July 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto:
On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote:
On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote:
or do you have a better idea
On Monday, July 12, 2010 04:48:39 am Ivan Čukić wrote:
-in the activity configuration, there would be something that looks like
a combobox to chose icons, that shows just the set of 20 good ones or
an other... option
Yeah, we'll need to discuss this one a bit more - whether it is good
On July 12, 2010 16:27:40 Markus Slopianka wrote:
On Monday 12 July 2010 23:40:42 Chani wrote:
if you want details, go read my blog posts on activities :)
http://chani.wordpress.com/?s=activities
Yeah, I could do that, but while I'm not afraid of reading blogs, typical
users won't do
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On 2010-07-11 21:53:30, Ryan Rix wrote
On Sunday, July 11, 2010 03:18:03 pm Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
Hi,
I have been playing a bit with the Add Widget UI on the plane back from
Akademy and replaced the scroll buttons with a scrollbar. Attached patch
is a first step at it, largely unfinished as I would like to know if you
are
On Sunday, July 11, 2010 03:20:39 pm Ivan Čukić wrote:
Hi all,
At aKademy, Nuno proposed a bit different design for identicons used
for plasma activities.
1. The identicons should be showed inside a bubble with background and
an overlay.
they look pretty :)
now, what if $plasmoid wants
On Saturday, July 10, 2010 03:41:47 am Marco Martin wrote:
On Saturday 10 July 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On July 9, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
oh, fsck, scrap that: i remembered that 90% i'll be away 16-17-18 :/
15th? gives ryan a day to recuperate and a day before you leave?
if
two important things if you're at akademy:
plasma people: we're having a quick meeting after the closing ceremony sunday.
if you're doing any sort of plasma work, please stick around for that.
everyone: friday's bof session has been delayed to 10:30, so that I don't have
to fork myself. :) if
On Monday, June 28, 2010 02:29:41 pm Marco Martin wrote:
SVN commit 1143845 by mart:
avoid a crash in the following scenario: change the activity type of a
containment, then try to stop the activity. it still misbehaves, because
the new containment it gets created is not added to the
SVN commit 1131048 by chani:
added some explaination of activities and context in case I get hit by a
bus :) I hope it makes sense 'cause I'm getting tired.
the context stuff is... not 100% coherent, and probably only 80%
correct. aaron, could you check that file when you get a moment please
On May 23, 2010 09:53:15 Mike Kasick wrote:
Hi folks,
This issue was first raised on the KDE community forums [1], for which
my reply is fifth in the thread. It was recommended that I post the
issue here.
I recommend that you search bko first next time. :)
On May 23, 2010 10:27:26 Rhapsody wrote:
On 23/05/10 18:08, Ivan Čukić wrote:
As far as I know, it is intentional, that is, it is not a bug.
From my point of view, this is something that we can make configurable
(there already is a configuration page in system settings application
On May 23, 2010 11:02:33 Chani wrote:
On May 23, 2010 10:27:26 Rhapsody wrote:
On 23/05/10 18:08, Ivan Čukić wrote:
As far as I know, it is intentional, that is, it is not a bug.
From my point of view, this is something that we can make configurable
(there already
On May 23, 2010 13:08:57 Marco Martin wrote:
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Chani wrote:
On May 23, 2010 10:27:26 Rhapsody wrote:
On 23/05/10 18:08, Ivan Čukić wrote:
As far as I know, it is intentional, that is, it is not a bug.
From my point of view, this is something that we can make
On May 23, 2010 13:59:03 Marco Martin wrote:
this has been automatically discarded, but was legit, so forwarding here
please forward inline instead of encapsulated; kmail can't quote that message.
makes it a bit of a PITA to reply to this.
anyways..
1) yeah, that bugs me too. it's slightly less
On May 22, 2010 09:03:53 Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
Hullo,
it seems reviewboard cannot connect to anonsvn (at least from here) so i'm
attaching the patch here as it is really small.
Having a look at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231791 you can see
how easy is reproducing the bug.
It
()
#8 0xb560c411 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
#9 0xb560dc12 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
#10 0xb65e4a87 in qt_message_output (msgType=QtFatalMsg,
buf=0xa4bc630 ASSERT failure in QWidget::mapTo(QWidget *parent, const
QPoint pos): \parent must be in parent hierarchy\, file
/home/chani
On May 18, 2010 13:15:10 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Hi all,
A question, and I'll try to keep it short. It is about a VERY immature
funding *idea*. No expectations please...
mmm. it kinda sounds like the 'view source key' the OLPC was supposed to have,
times the internet! with an extra dose of
/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/shell/plasmaapp.cpp
http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3780/#comment4681
again, not sure we want containments really associated too much with
the activity manager. it should be fully self-contained and not need to
know which containment it is
as a horizontal strip. which means we don't need a
containment.
the corona can be gotten from PlasmaApp.
hmm.
I'll look into that next then, see how many contaimnent assumptions aree in the
code
- Chani
.
Did you make some patches to libs/plasmagenericshell as well?
(hmm, my comment seems to have vanished)
yes, forgot those patches, sorry.
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geometry is wrong the next time it's shown. not sure what's
up with that.
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hey, ivan wanted me to tell you guys that he's moved the nepomuk activities
stuff into kdereview. :)
it's the API we developed at tokamak - for letting apps query things like the
current activity, and for letting workspace things (ie, plasma) manage them.
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Hey Plasma people,
I just fell off my chair.
Engadget today showed me the wePad. A completely opensource based tablet
with software made in germany.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8hARiE6fgM
The activity switcher is amazing.
The window’s actions on the right are already implemented as a plasmoid
and there is no need to show the minimize button: if you want to switch
between applications you just do it, if you want to go to an activity
you just use the panel for that and if you want to close, the button is
since I'm currently thinking about everything *except* my midterm, here's a
few notes on activities from a what happened at tokamak perspective.
-I met with kwin people to talk about how to show only the relevant windows
-me, ivan, kwin people and some other people discussed and figured out an
On April 7, 2010 12:43:12 Marco Martin wrote:
On Wednesday 07 April 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
add panel - Panel With Default Widgets. that would either run a
small javascript or just suck in an exported appletsrc snippet;
perhaps both.
Which... is probably about what Alex had
On March 31, 2010 11:37:51 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On March 31, 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote:
can we get together on irc soon and do a once-over of this and then get
it moved into kdereview?
Ok, I'll try to be online tomorrow. If not, then the weekend?
sounds great; i'll be around :)
hey
btw, at this moment I am editing Plasma::Context to return some made-up
activities for testing.
I have a midterm tomorrow, but chances are by friday or saturday I'll be
itching to put some *real* data in there... :)
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I think it already is (public). There is a checkbox that says make public
that I made sure to check :) If anyone is unable to see the proposal though
let me know and I'll copy it out somewhere.
oh, is that a new feature this year?
last year there was no way to let non-mentors see it.
I do
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