Re: Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-23 Thread Alessandro Longo
Hi all, Il 15-09-2016 09:20 Ivan Čukić ha scritto: The fact that people are used to a certain kind of UI is not the reason for you not to invent something new and better. +1. Having a first-start tutorial for Plasma would let us improve a bit the defaults (Plasma is still suggested as better

Re: Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-16 Thread Jens
Well ok it's not a perfect example. Also having a chat with one of the GNOME designers about fedora s welcome thing on what they learned and thought about it since theirs is kinda nice and non intrusive as well as helping set up things like social accounts etc. Not saying it's rubbish just

Re: Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-15 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi all, I agree that the first-run wizard might be annoying. But if it was a first-screen with options to have 'introduction', 'new features', 'setup wizard', I think it would be ok. Manjaro has had a first-run screen for ages, I never found it problematic. Plus, Martin had a few really nice

Re: Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-14 Thread kainz.a
for example I read in the beta announcement that meta key can be used now to open kicker. So show also new features could be usefull (look and feel package, ...) 2016-09-14 15:08 GMT+02:00 Jens : > The issue with first-run wizards is that they tend to get in the way more >

Re: Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-14 Thread Jens
The issue with first-run wizards is that they tend to get in the way more than they help, and are often skipped past and difficult to get back. One idea would be to have the "introduction" something that cm can be launched from the launcher or from system settings. Beyond that there is also

Re: Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 14 September 2016 12:03:06 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > by default powerful when needed is one of our slogans. So first run > wizards get in the way of that. ancient nightmares O.o http://linuxbook.orbdesigns.com/ch08/images/btlb802i.jpg -- Marco Martin

Re: Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-14 Thread Eike Hein
Personally what I've dreamed of for half a decade is an interactive first-use tutorial that takes you on a tour of the UI, similar to what RTS video games - which have desktop-like UIs they need to teach quickly in an engaging way that teaches by doing - have. I even started toying around with it

Re: Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-14 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am 2016-09-14 13:54, schrieb Jan Grulich: Hi, some time ago I had an idea to propose something like Plasma initial setup as a bachelor thesis to our RedHat system, where students then can pick up our ideas and realize them as their theses. Recently I got a student who would like to work on

Re: Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-14 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 01:54:28PM +0200, Jan Grulich wrote: > some time ago I had an idea to propose something like Plasma initial setup as > a bachelor thesis to our RedHat system, where students then can pick up our > ideas and realize them as their theses. Recently I got a student who would

Plasma desktop/mobile initial setup

2016-09-14 Thread Jan Grulich
Hi, some time ago I had an idea to propose something like Plasma initial setup as a bachelor thesis to our RedHat system, where students then can pick up our ideas and realize them as their theses. Recently I got a student who would like to work on this and I would like to know whether it's a