Hi all,
Sorry, I forgot to write who wrote which quote...
1 On the horizontal application launchers
While the horizontal format is fine for a few icon-only launchers (quick
launch, docks etc.), the idea to
Have it open a horizontal menu that replaces or covers the panel
entirely. This menu
Hello,
For an intro see the mail with the (0/3) in the subject line.
One of the projects we're doing is to try and make Unity more
accessible. To that end we'd like to add properties to add accessible
labels for the icons that could be given to screen readers. We're
planning on issuing
Hello,
I'd like to propose some new properties to be added to the SNI interface
for a couple of projects in the Application Indicator framework that we
have over here. We'd love it if you guys would consider adopting them
in the base spec. Also, if you have comments on how to make them better
I
Hello,
For an intro see the mail with the (0/3) in the subject line.
We also started to use some of the application indicators from
applications in the launcher on the left side of the screen. We use the
application indicator to provide additional menus for the launcher which
we call a quick
Hello,
For an intro see the mail with the (0/3) in the subject line.
We'd like to suggest an additional key for .desktop files that lists the
IDs of Status Notifier Items that an application exports. This will
allow us to better match SNI items when we are using them as quicklists,
as errors
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to propose some new properties to be added to the SNI interface
for a couple of projects in the Application Indicator framework that we
have over here. We'd love it if you guys would consider adopting them
in the base spec.
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
Hello,
For an intro see the mail with the (0/3) in the subject line.
One of the projects we're doing is to try and make Unity more
accessible. To that end we'd like to add properties to add accessible
labels for the icons that could be given
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
Hello,
For an intro see the mail with the (0/3) in the subject line.
We also started to use some of the application indicators from
applications in the launcher on the left side of the screen. We use the
application indicator to provide
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
Hello,
For an intro see the mail with the (0/3) in the subject line.
We'd like to suggest an additional key for .desktop files that lists the
IDs of Status Notifier Items that an application exports. This will
allow us to better match SNI
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Add the option to qalculate
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 14:27 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
I'd like to propose some new properties to be added to the SNI interface
for a couple of projects in the Application Indicator framework that we
have over here. We'd love it if you guys
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 14:37 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
One of the projects we're doing is to try and make Unity more
accessible. To that end we'd like to add properties to add accessible
labels for the icons that could be given to screen
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 14:41 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
We also started to use some of the application indicators from
applications in the launcher on the left side of the screen. We use the
application indicator to provide additional menus for
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 14:45 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
We'd like to suggest an additional key for .desktop files that lists the
IDs of Status Notifier Items that an application exports. This will
allow us to better match SNI items when we are
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Ship it!
Except for one comment, it looks fine. Can you commit
Hey,
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 15:29:38 Ted Gould wrote:
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 14:37 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
One of the projects we're doing is to try and make Unity more
accessible. To that end we'd like to add properties to add
One feature I think would be useful would be if applications were able
to add buttons to their thumbnails in the task manager. Use cases
could include play and pause buttons on media players, or tab lists on
web browsers. I got what I interpreted as positive feedback when I
mentioned this
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Ivan Cukic ivan.cu...@kde.org wrote:
Hi all,
Sorry, I forgot to write who wrote which quote...
1 On the horizontal application launchers
While the horizontal format is fine for a few icon-only launchers (quick
launch, docks etc.), the idea to
Have it open a
On the other hand, it requires application developers to add another string
in their code to all UI elements -- something which might be easily forgotten
by those that don't care a lot about a11y (I fear that this applies to a lot
of developers). Falling back to the tooltip sounds like
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Review request for Plasma.
Changes
On Feb. 3, 2011, 3:15 p.m., Matteo Agostinelli wrote:
applets/qalculate/qalculate_labels.h, lines 32-56
http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/100533/diff/1/?file=8207#file8207line32
I don't understand why you created the AppletSettings class. Wouldn't
it be easier to simply pass a
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, Alex Fiestas wrote:
On 02/02/2011 09:57 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
--- About taskmanager:
(1) use only icons (this already happens when taskbar is full):
- icon size on the panel should be shortcut size (launcher size,
=Kickoff)
i'm not
On Thursday 03 February 2011 16:51:34 todd rme wrote:
or tab lists on web browsers.
Just as a note: I'm working on that together with rekonq developers (see
complete thread [1]). I expect to start the kwin side of the implementation
after shadow rework.
Cheers
Martin
[1]:
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, todd rme wrote:
what would be helpful is to do a mockup of your ideas below, and keep evolving
it as we continue the discussion.
1. Get rid of favorites from the application launcher. Focus on
making runners easy, intuitive, and clear. These go in the
A.S. I might sound like I'm totally against the ideas proposed, I'm not -
I'm just pointing out the potential problems instead of just +1-ing the
good parts.
That doesn't seem to be a problem with the add widgets dialog, or with
the default Dolphin icons view, either.. I think it is fine if
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
We also started to use some of the application indicators from
applications in the launcher on the left side of the screen. We use the
application indicator to provide additional menus for the launcher which
we call a quick list. We're
first, thanks for working with us on this Ted. it really helps keep things
moving forward in a coordinate fashion, and makes our lives (and hopefully
yours) a lot brighter. :)
oh, and you don't need to CC Marco and I, we're on the plasma-devel list :)
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, Ted Gould
1. Get rid of favorites from the application launcher. Focus on
making runners easy, intuitive, and clear. These go in the middle.
don't favourites and krunner do rather different things?
They do, but when you use krunner, that means you don't have the thing you
want in favs. (this one
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
We'd like to suggest an additional key for .desktop files that lists the
IDs of Status Notifier Items that an application exports. This will
allow us to better match SNI items when we are using them as quicklists,
as errors are very
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
On Wednesday, February 2, 2011, todd rme wrote:
what would be helpful is to do a mockup of your ideas below, and keep evolving
it as we continue the discussion.
1. Get rid of favorites from the application launcher. Focus
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
There are ways to strongly suggest application developers to define such
strings: for example outputing warnings on stderr when a KSNI goes live
without having proper a11y properties set.
catching and punishing sins (though a warning is
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On the other hand, it requires application developers to add another string
in their code to all UI elements -- something which might be easily
forgotten by those that don't care a lot about a11y (I fear that this
applies to a lot of
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011 16:51:34 todd rme wrote:
or tab lists on web browsers.
Just as a note: I'm working on that together with rekonq developers (see
complete thread [1]). I expect to start the kwin side of the implementation
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, todd rme wrote:
One feature I think would be useful would be if applications were able
to add buttons to their thumbnails in the task manager. Use cases
could this be done with the status notifier spec?
--
Aaron J. Seigo
humru othro a kohnu se
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On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ivan Cukic ivan.cu...@kde.org wrote:
A.S. I might sound like I'm totally against the ideas proposed, I'm not -
I'm just pointing out the potential problems instead of just +1-ing the
good parts.
That doesn't seem to be a problem with the add widgets dialog, or
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, todd rme wrote:
One feature I think would be useful would be if applications were able
to add buttons to their thumbnails in the task manager. Use cases
could this be done with the status
On Thursday 03 February 2011 18:47:01 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011 16:51:34 todd rme wrote:
or tab lists on web browsers.
Just as a note: I'm working on that together with rekonq developers (see
complete
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Ivan Cukic wrote:
1. Get rid of favorites from the application launcher. Focus on
making runners easy, intuitive, and clear. These go in the middle.
don't favourites and krunner do rather different things?
They do, but when you use krunner, that means
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, todd rme wrote:
One feature I think would be useful would be if applications were able
to add buttons to their thumbnails in the task manager. Use cases
could this be done with the status notifier spec?
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, todd rme wrote:
One feature I think would be useful would be if applications were able
to add buttons to their thumbnails in the task
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, todd rme wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, todd rme wrote:
One feature I think would be useful would be if applications were able
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 14:45 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
could still be a bit error prone, but i can't think of more automatic
ways. it could also be done on the other way around, by having a list of
desktop file paths as a property of the
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, todd rme wrote:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, todd rme wrote:
One
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
The use case was
use cases! excellent ... :)
people wanting different menus on the panel vs. on the launcher.
crazy idea: different menus from the same SNI for different (well-defined in
the spec) contexts? if the SNI only provides a generic
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 14:37 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
One of the projects we're doing is to try and make Unity more
accessible. To that end we'd like to add properties to add accessible
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, todd rme wrote:
But how does the visualization know how to arrange things?
metadata. if there isn't enough metadata or the right sort, we add it.
Also, there is the issue with passing pixmaps.
this is already available in the spec :)
--
Aaron J. Seigo
humru
On 03-02-2011 at 19:05:56 Ivan Cukic ivan.cu...@kde.org wrote:
BTW, on of the free DEs (forgot which one) had the standard win-like
taskbar, and on Alt+Space (I encountered it by accident) it would replace
the taskbar with a 'run' text field. I liked it, but it was no krunner -
simple shell
On 03-02-2011 at 18:57:41 Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
hm.. i see something in playground/base/plasma/applets/runnapplet
will have to check it out.
I guess you mean runcommand, there is no directory runnapplet there (at
least on SVN).
It uses own dialog for results and maybe some
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011 18:47:01 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2011 16:51:34 todd rme wrote:
or tab lists on web browsers.
Just as a note: I'm working on
Well seems that despite of the differences in our thoughts, there are a
couple of points that everybody agrees on:
1-Maximize the usage of Favorites
2-Maximize the usage of KRunner
3-Find new ways of showing Favorites.
Going beyond that in the mailist will be difficult, maybe an irc session
This is IceWM, very useful feature when you have very limited resources.
;-)
Strangely enough, I use it from time to time, but completely forgot it
was from there :)
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Well, we definitely need mocks of everything, this idea, and
everything else people can devise.
Maybe we should ask the
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ivan Čukić ivan.cu...@kde.org wrote:
This is IceWM, very useful feature when you have very limited resources.
;-)
Strangely enough, I use it from time to time, but completely forgot it
was from there :)
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Well, we definitely need mocks of everything, this
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
* this would look sexy
* would show explicitly a way out of the browser
* would mark a prototype on how a full desktop application could look
without painting limitations qwidgets now have
* enough? ;)
this would be truly awesome; merging
On Thursday 03 February 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
* this would look sexy
* would show explicitly a way out of the browser
* would mark a prototype on how a full desktop application could look
without painting limitations qwidgets now
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Great! Please commit/merge. Thanks!
- Matteo
On
Hi all,
so, we had an astonishing inflow of ideas, opinions and use cases during these
days, this was really great, keep em coming!
It's amazing how much passion and energy there still is in this particular
topic, as the thread says, the next step on the desktop.
As ideas flows, there is an
On Thursday 03 February 2011, alex.tolar wrote:
Good night everybody,
Yo, good evening.
thanks for the feedback I really think you should subscribe to the list, will
be easier to keep the discourse pen ;)
About Activities
- detail: switch Add spacer button on the Panel menu with Activities
I can do April, but not before 11th.
what we want to do, what the architecture of libplasma2 could be.. (good news,
Bring the aspirins for this one :)
location
I propose something not in the Arctic circle :) Do we have
something/someone in Vienna or similar?
--
While you were hanging
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
Hi all,
It seems it's that time of the year again :)
I would really like we could have a little meeting again, maybe around
april? I tink this time it would be nice to hae few people (10-15? but i
want at least a couple of new faces there
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, alex.tolar wrote:
Good night everybody,
I'm not using Windows since Ubuntu Dapper Drake, and Macintosh since before
the colored iMacs: can't care less. Win7, OsX, Gnome3, Unity and many
minor distros adopted a Dock: maybe not for a fool reason at all. I'm not
Quoting Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
It seems it's that time of the year again :)
And that is great! :)
I would really like we could have a little meeting again, maybe around april?
I tink this time it would be nice to hae few people (10-15? but i want at
least a couple of new
hi..
some may have noticed that i enabled the apply button by default in widget
config dialogs. i found a cute little hack to make the apply buttons
deactivate properly on ok/apply being hit. (or so i hope :)
now what we need to do is run around to all the C++ plasmoids and connect the
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 16:24 +0100, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On the other hand, it requires application developers to add another
string in their code to all UI elements -- something which might be
easily forgotten by those that don't care a lot about a11y (I fear
that this applies to a lot of
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Ted Gould wrote:
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 09:19 -0800, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
What we'd like to add is two properties that are
lists of strings: NotShowIn and OnlyShowIn. These would work exactly
the same as the same properties in Desktop files where an
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, alex.tolar wrote:
Good night everybody,
I'm not using Windows since Ubuntu Dapper Drake, and Macintosh since
before the colored iMacs: can't care less. Win7, OsX, Gnome3, Unity
and many minor distros adopted a Dock:
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
On Thursday, February 3, 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
Hi all,
It seems it's that time of the year again :)
I would really like we could have a little meeting again, maybe around
april? I tink this time it would be nice to hae few people (10-15? but
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