Re: Breakout: how to attract new contributors?

2016-10-20 Thread Fredy Neeser
> Maybe we don't just lack documentation.
>
> What kind of contributions are we expecting? It would be interesting
> to have an outline of what kind of things we're interested in having
> so people doesn't only contribute but also know confidently that
> they're working in our direction.
>
> Aleix


Hi Aleix

I've read about the lack of sufficient test coverage for different
multiscreen configurations.  Problems with multiscreen is my biggest
pain point with KDE Plasma since I started using Plasma with the
upgrade to Fedora 22.

Right now I'm building Plasma directly from KDE sources because
it seems the delay bug I'm experiencing on the external monitor

(see my message
  Plasma 5.7.5 / 5.8.0 multiscreen: Menu and widgets react to mouse events
with seconds of delay if Primary Display = external monitor
to plasma-devel)

might get some attention if I can prove that it actually occurs in
upstream code ...

I'm willing to debug this problem, but I may need some guidance
for running Plasma using the libraries that I build/install
in my home directory.

So ... I'm all for contributions that help making Plasma
(and particularly multiscreen) more stable.

Just my 10 cents ...

Fredy Neeser
IBM Zurich Research


Re: Breakout: how to attract new contributors?

2016-10-20 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Jonathan Riddell  wrote:
>  we need more contributors, junior jobs are best way to get started
>  the most critical thing we can do for developer recruitment
>  is change the way we publish/blog
>  our blogs are mostly work notes aimed at users, we need to
> write more blog posts that engineers like to read
>  mgraesslin: the interesting thing is that among the best and
> brightest fresh young open source contributors, we have quite a few
> users - e.g. in the Rust community quite a few use Plasma, because C++
> is the next best thing - but we don't publish anything they like to
> read so we don't convert
>
> discuss!

Maybe we don't just lack documentation.

What kind of contributions are we expecting? It would be interesting
to have an outline of what kind of things we're interested in having
so people doesn't only contribute but also know confidently that
they're working in our direction.

Aleix


Re: Breakout: how to attract new contributors?

2016-10-20 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:24:00 AM UTC Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 17 October 2016, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> >  we need more contributors, junior jobs are best way to get
> >
> > started  the most critical thing we can do for developer recruitment
> >  is change the way we publish/blog
> >  our blogs are mostly work notes aimed at users, we need to
> > write more blog posts that engineers like to read
> >  mgraesslin: the interesting thing is that among the best and
> > brightest fresh young open source contributors, we have quite a few
> > users - e.g. in the Rust community quite a few use Plasma, because C++
> > is the next best thing - but we don't publish anything they like to
> > read so we don't convert
> 
> it's kind of a pipe dream, but indeed, great documentation would be one of
> the  most effective things

That's the point of the developer guide which I've started, but haven't 
finished yet. I'll put some time aside to progress it.
-- 
sebas

Sebastian Kügler•http://vizZzion.org•http://www.kde.org


Re: Breakout: how to attract new contributors?

2016-10-18 Thread Fredy Neeser

> I am one of those new contributors that I would like to help... :)
>
> It might be a very good thing a "per distribution" way to build plasma's
> master branch and install it on a user's path (not global in order to
> not break the distribution's official packages)...

Very good idea.  In my case, this would hopefully allow me to debug
a new multiscreen issue ...

There are some recent HOWTOs at

[1] https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs
[2] https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Development
[3] https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Build_from_source
[4]
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Build_from_source/Details
[5]
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Build_from_source/Plasma_5_on_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS

but I don't know yet how useful [3]-[5] really are.


> For example an analytic guide for some of the most used distributions,
> Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE etc.
>
> I am using openSUSE and I would love to have a walk through to follow
> for the first steps...

I'm using Fedora -- yes, a walk through for building Plasma (ideally with
distro-specific hints) would be greatly appreciated.


Cheers

Fredy Neeser
IBM Zurich Research


Re: Breakout: how to attract new contributors?

2016-10-18 Thread Michail Vourlakos

Hello,

I am one of those new contributors that I would like to help... :)

It might be a very good thing a "per distribution" way to build plasma's 
master branch and install it on a user's path (not global in order to 
not break the distribution's official packages)...


For example an analytic guide for some of the most used distributions, 
Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE etc.


I am using openSUSE and I would love to have a walk through to follow 
for the first steps...



regards,

michail




On 18/10/2016 12:24 μμ, Marco Martin wrote:

On Monday 17 October 2016, Jonathan Riddell wrote:

  we need more contributors, junior jobs are best way to get
started  the most critical thing we can do for developer recruitment
 is change the way we publish/blog
 our blogs are mostly work notes aimed at users, we need to
write more blog posts that engineers like to read
 mgraesslin: the interesting thing is that among the best and
brightest fresh young open source contributors, we have quite a few
users - e.g. in the Rust community quite a few use Plasma, because C++
is the next best thing - but we don't publish anything they like to
read so we don't convert

it's kind of a pipe dream, but indeed, great documentation would be one of the
most effective things






Re: Breakout: how to attract new contributors?

2016-10-18 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 17 October 2016, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>  we need more contributors, junior jobs are best way to get
> started  the most critical thing we can do for developer recruitment
>  is change the way we publish/blog
>  our blogs are mostly work notes aimed at users, we need to
> write more blog posts that engineers like to read
>  mgraesslin: the interesting thing is that among the best and
> brightest fresh young open source contributors, we have quite a few
> users - e.g. in the Rust community quite a few use Plasma, because C++
> is the next best thing - but we don't publish anything they like to
> read so we don't convert

it's kind of a pipe dream, but indeed, great documentation would be one of the 
most effective things


-- 
Marco Martin