Re: Plasma and a bachelor thesis

[Aleix Pol]

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 5:57 AM Christoph Feck  wrote:
>
> On 10/16/20 15:26, Ilya Bizyaev wrote:
> > I've had a wild idea of doing a KDE-related engineering project
>
> Thank you for your interest in helping the KDE community!
>
> If you exclude anything reported to bugs.kde.org (which does not only
> list bugs, but also has ideas for new features), you could also use
> these for inspirations:
>
> - Brainstorm in KDE Forums: https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=83
>
> -
> https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
>
> On a more personal note, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252353

This reminds me how we're in constant need of work on the
accessibility front. Handwriting would be useful, and so would any
advancement in that realm.

If you're into image recognition, having some sort of AI savvy app for
Plasma Mobile will be necessary too eventually ;).

Aleix

Re: Plasma and a bachelor thesis

[David Redondo]

Hi Ilya,

> That's fair. Even though the format would declare it an engineering thesis
> and shift the focus more to the code, I would still need to show research
> skills, explain the novelty of this work (maybe by using a more general
> topic name) and write plenty of text. Do you think the topic allows for
> that?

I think such a topic fits a thesis quite well. I do not know the requirements 
of your university for a Bachelor's thesis but I think it could also work as a 
Master's thesis depending on the scope with which you are approaching the 
topic. Ample opportunity to write about current/past approaches done by other
software, IPC mechanisms and what you end up doing for whatever reasons.
 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Ilya

Best Regards,
David

Re: Plasma and a bachelor thesis

[Ilya Bizyaev]

Hello Christoph, David!



Thank you for your input!



I have read through the shared materials, browsed Bugzilla reports, dug up and 
read the 
https://blogs.kde.org/2018/08/02/engineering-plasma-extensions-and-stability-—-present-and-future
 by Eike, and watched David's 
https://conf.kde.org/en/Akademy2018/public/events/66.

I like the project idea that David suggested, and I would like to work on it.



 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:31:32 +0400 David Edmundson 
 wrote 

> 2 years ago I started an ambitious project

I'll only have half a year or so, but David also does a ton of other work all 
around Plasma, so I hope to be able to complete the project in time 



> CompSci professors always look more for research  than actual coding

That's fair. Even though the format would declare it an engineering thesis and 
shift the focus more to the code, I would still need to show research skills, 
explain the novelty of this work (maybe by using a more general topic name) and 
write plenty of text. Do you think the topic allows for that?



If so, I will ask the university representative for approval of this project as 
an engineering development thesis topic. For that, I will need a formal 
"consultant" with a master's degree in Computer Science who can reason about 
the topic's relevance, track my progress, and sign the papers. Would anyone be 
up for the role?



Best regards,

Ilya

Re: Plasma and a bachelor thesis

[Christoph Feck]

On 10/16/20 15:26, Ilya Bizyaev wrote:

I've had a wild idea of doing a KDE-related engineering project


Thank you for your interest in helping the KDE community!

If you exclude anything reported to bugs.kde.org (which does not only 
list bugs, but also has ideas for new features), you could also use 
these for inspirations:


- Brainstorm in KDE Forums: https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=83

- 
https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html


On a more personal note, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252353

BG,
Christoph

Re: Plasma and a bachelor thesis

[Ilya Bizyaev]

Hello Aleix, thank you for your reply!



> Have you thought about what you would like to do? Would you have some

> ideas about something you would like to see developed?



That's the hardest part for me, and what I was hoping to get some input on :)



Most of the projects I can think of involve adding features that are already

available in other open-source projects, like GNOME, but those are unlikely

to be approved by the university. Then I think of some lower-level components,

like file indexers, crash handlers, or window managers, where there's maybe a

possibility to do something more `scientific`, but I don't have any special 
context

to reason about what needs improvement there.



> I also did my master thesis on KDE software and I think it worked well

I have now found it and enjoyed reading it :D



Best regards,

Ilya





 Дата: Вт, 20 окт 2020 16:34:37 +0400 Aleix Pol  
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On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:26 PM Ilya Bizyaev  wrote: 
> 
> Hello! 
> 
> I'm currently in my last year of bachelor studies, and I'm now looking for a 
> topic for my bachelor thesis. I've had a wild idea of doing a KDE-related 
> engineering project since it sounds fun, would give me a good occasion to 
> help advance open source software that I use and love, and appears to be an 
> acceptable way of doing the thesis from my university's side. 
> 
> Since it would have to be a big project, "scratching my own itch" with 
> bugfixes won't work. It would also require a sensible degree of novelty, so 
> doing something-that-GNOME-has-but-in-Qt is also not an option. Finally, for 
> a successful project I would need to prove its relevance, so that would have 
> to be something actually useful and releasable as part of our products. 
> 
> That's why I decided to write an email to this mailing list and ask if 
> someone with more insight into Plasma's development direction has some ideas 
> for such a project. 
> 
> As for me, you may have seen me around KDE for a while :) I study applied 
> mathematics and computer science at ITMO University in St Petersburg, so have 
> a background in mathematics, algorithms and data structures, and other 
> relevant subjects. I primarily code in C++ and have some insight into Qt/KDE 
> software, and I've worked on Chrome OS in the past. There are some topics 
> suggested by the university (mostly around machine learning), and there will 
> likely be some more from its partner companies, but I am curious if I can 
> also complete a well-defined and meaningful project for KDE. 
> 
> Best regards, 
> Ilya Bizyaev  
> 
 
Hi Ilya, 
Have you thought about what you would like to do? Would you have some 
ideas about something you would like to see developed? 
 
I also did my master thesis on KDE software and I think it worked 
well, I'd love to help you do it too. 
 
Aleix

Re: Plasma and a bachelor thesis

[Aleix Pol]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:26 PM Ilya Bizyaev  wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm currently in my last year of bachelor studies, and I'm now looking for a 
> topic for my bachelor thesis. I've had a wild idea of doing a KDE-related 
> engineering project since it sounds fun, would give me a good occasion to 
> help advance open source software that I use and love, and appears to be an 
> acceptable way of doing the thesis from my university's side.
>
> Since it would have to be a big project, "scratching my own itch" with 
> bugfixes won't work. It would also require a sensible degree of novelty, so 
> doing something-that-GNOME-has-but-in-Qt is also not an option. Finally, for 
> a successful project I would need to prove its relevance, so that would have 
> to be something actually useful and releasable as part of our products.
>
> That's why I decided to write an email to this mailing list and ask if 
> someone with more insight into Plasma's development direction has some ideas 
> for such a project.
>
> As for me, you may have seen me around KDE for a while :) I study applied 
> mathematics and computer science at ITMO University in St Petersburg, so have 
> a background in mathematics, algorithms and data structures, and other 
> relevant subjects. I primarily code in C++ and have some insight into Qt/KDE 
> software, and I've worked on Chrome OS in the past. There are some topics 
> suggested by the university (mostly around machine learning), and there will 
> likely be some more from its partner companies, but I am curious if I can 
> also complete a well-defined and meaningful project for KDE.
>
> Best regards,
> Ilya Bizyaev 
>

Hi Ilya,
Have you thought about what you would like to do? Would you have some
ideas about something you would like to see developed?

I also did my master thesis on KDE software and I think it worked
well, I'd love to help you do it too.

Aleix

Re: Plasma and a bachelor thesis

[Valorie Zimmerman]

Hi Ilya,

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 6:26 AM Ilya Bizyaev  wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm currently in my last year of bachelor studies, and I'm now looking for
> a topic for my bachelor thesis. I've had a wild idea of doing a KDE-related
> engineering project since it sounds fun, would give me a good occasion to
> help advance open source software that I use and love, and appears to be an
> acceptable way of doing the thesis from my university's side.
>
> Since it would have to be a big project, "scratching my own itch" with
> bugfixes won't work. It would also require a sensible degree of novelty, so
> doing something-that-GNOME-has-but-in-Qt is also not an option. Finally,
> for a successful project I would need to prove its relevance, so that would
> have to be something actually useful and releasable as part of our products.
>
> That's why I decided to write an email to this mailing list and ask if
> someone with more insight into Plasma's development direction has some
> ideas for such a project.
>
> As for me, you may have seen me around KDE for a while :) I study applied
> mathematics and computer science at ITMO University in St Petersburg, so
> have a background in mathematics, algorithms and data structures, and other
> relevant subjects. I primarily code in C++ and have some insight into
> Qt/KDE software, and I've worked on Chrome OS in the past. There are some
> topics suggested by the university (mostly around machine learning), and
> there will likely be some more from its partner companies, but I am curious
> if I can also complete a well-defined and meaningful project for KDE.
>
> Best regards,
> Ilya Bizyaev 
>

Very cool proposal, and I hope you can get some feedback. I suggest sending
your email to KDE-devel and KDE-Community to reach a few more people with
ideas.

Valorie

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