On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:38:41PM -0700, Alan Irwin wrote:
> On 2012-10-24 20:09+0100 Andrew Ross wrote:
>
> >> If everybody is satisfied that forcing shapelib dependency for plmap
> >> is only a matter of time, then what remains is the decision about
> >> when/how to force that dependency. In th
On 2012-10-24 20:09+0100 Andrew Ross wrote:
>> If everybody is satisfied that forcing shapelib dependency for plmap
>> is only a matter of time, then what remains is the decision about
>> when/how to force that dependency. In this case, I think we should
>> deprecate now in a realistic way. That i
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:26:48AM -0700, Alan Irwin wrote:
> Hi Andrew and Phil:
>
> On 2012-10-24 09:36+0100 Andrew Ross wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:11:51AM -0700, phil rosenberg wrote:
>
> >> I hadn't noticed the missing Antarctica boundary section, I'm not
> sure why it should be
Hi Andrew and Phil:
On 2012-10-24 09:36+0100 Andrew Ross wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:11:51AM -0700, phil rosenberg wrote:
>> I hadn't noticed the missing Antarctica boundary section, I'm not
sure why it should be missing, in one but not the other, but if I'm
honest I'm not going to lose
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:11:51AM -0700, phil rosenberg wrote:
> Thanks Alan
> I hadn't noticed the missing Antarctica boundary section, I'm not sure why it
> should be missing, in one but not the other, but if I'm honest I'm not going
> to lose too much sleep if you intend to depreciate the old
. For any Hitchhikers Guide fans out there Norway has a prize winning coast
if memory serves correct.
Phil
From: Alan W. Irwin
To: Andrew Ross
Cc: phil rosenberg ;
"plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
Sent: Monday, 22 October 2012, 22:13
Subjec
On 2012-10-22 20:37+0100 Andrew Ross wrote:
>
> Phil,
>
> This all seems to work fine to me. I can't reproduce your bug with the old
> code, but I suspect I'm not using the right lat / lon and / or map file.
> The examples all work fine with your new code though.
>
> I've committed the changes to
>
> From: Alan W. Irwin
> To: Andrew Ross
> Cc: phil rosenberg ;
> "plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
> Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012, 7:20
> Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
>
> On 2012-10-11 22:59+0100 Andrew
On 2012-10-11 22:59+0100 Andrew Ross wrote:
[Phil said]
>> My fallback strategy will be to create a globe.shp, etc based on the
>> contents of globe.map I was just waiting for the code to be tested before I
>> did it. I think this is the "method of least surprise." If a user selects to
>> use s
Cheers
> ?
> Phil
>
>
>
> From: Andrew Ross
> To: phil rosenberg
> Cc: "plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 October 2012, 21:38
> Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
>
>
>
> Phil,
>
> Thanks for your patch
ubject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
Phil,
Thanks for your patch. A great start. I've got a few comments.
To get it to compile on Linux required a couple of changes:
1) Debian installs the include file shapefil.h in /usr/include not in a
shapelib subdirectory. Changing the #inclu
;s relatively
> little effort to do - discus!!!
> ??
> Let me know if the patch works for you.
> ??
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> From: Alan W. Irwin
> To: phil rosenberg
> Cc: "plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
> ; Andr
nberg
Cc: "plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" ;
Andrew Ross
Sent: Friday, 5 October 2012, 21:38
Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
By the way, I looked for a shapefile viewer on Debian and found
thuban. I don't know whether that is the best shapefile viewer for
Linux
le to put it to bed
and spend some time on the maps.
Phil
From: Alan W. Irwin
To: phil rosenberg
Cc: "plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" ;
Andrew Ross
Sent: Friday, 5 October 2012, 21:38
Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
By the
By the way, I looked for a shapefile viewer on Debian and found
thuban. I don't know whether that is the best shapefile viewer for
Linux, but it is based on libgda/ogr. When I tried thuban on overall
shapefile maps for British Columbian (obtained by following links at
http://downloads.cloudmade.co
On 2012-10-05 05:56-0700 phil rosenberg wrote:
> So in terms of implimentation, what would be the way ahead? If the
intention would be to eventually replace the current maps with
shapefile versions then are we happy that the core API will have a
dependancy on shapelib (presumably the only alternat
questions.
Phil
From: Alan W. Irwin
To: phil rosenberg
Cc: Andrew Ross ; Hezekiah M. Carty
; "plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
Sent: Friday, 5 October 2012, 0:14
Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
On 2012-10-04 12:58-0700 phil rosen
On 2012-10-04 12:58-0700 phil rosenberg wrote:
> I just want to double check that shapefile really the correct format
to use for the built in maps. The only concern I have is that it may
be slow and memory hungry to read the files because the file only
specifies min/max x/y for the entire file. If
can't
be a bad thing to ensure the map files load quickly and use as little ram as
possibles.
Phil
From: Alan W. Irwin
To: Andrew Ross
Cc: Hezekiah M. Carty ;
"plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" ; phil
rosenberg
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October
On 2012-10-03 12:40+0100 Andrew Ross wrote:
> Alan,
>
> Certainly my take on this was that I was envisaging only using this
> support for behind the scenes improvements to plmap, not reproducing
> a general interface to shapelib / ogr / gdal etc. There is no point
> reproducing the wheel, particul
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 02:51:34PM -0700, phil rosenberg wrote:
> Hi All
> I just downloaded shapelib and it builds with no difficulties at all on
> Windows. It?seems to be?written in "pure" C so it is just a case of compiling
> and linking the files - no build system is necessary as such. In les
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 02:48:11AM -0700, Alan Irwin wrote:
> On 2012-10-02 22:24-0400 Hezekiah M. Carty wrote:
>
> > I've used PLplot to plot a lot of data on maps, including mixing data
> > from shapefiles and other sources. Based on my experience I think we
> > may be going off in the wrong di
On 2012-10-02 22:24-0400 Hezekiah M. Carty wrote:
> I've used PLplot to plot a lot of data on maps, including mixing data
> from shapefiles and other sources. Based on my experience I think we
> may be going off in the wrong direction here.
Hi Hez:
In order to be sure we understand the rest of
Sorry for the duplicate message - I didn't use the proper From address
for the mailing list in my previous send.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Alan W. Irwin w=
rote:
> Hi Phil:
>
> On 2012-10-02 14:51-0700 phil rosenberg wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> There have been quite a few options thrown into t
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 at 16:41:43 (-0700) Alan W. Irwin writes:
> Hi Phil:
>
> On 2012-10-02 14:51-0700 phil rosenberg wrote:
> [snip]
> > 3) Do either 1) or 2) but also provide an interface for loading a standard
> > file format (presumably shapefiles via shapelib?).
> > Al
Hi Phil:
On 2012-10-02 14:51-0700 phil rosenberg wrote:
> Hi All
> I just downloaded shapelib and it builds with no difficulties at all
on Windows. It seems to be written in "pure" C so it is just a case of
compiling and linking the files - no build system is necessary as
such. In less than an h
On 01/10/2012 22:38, Alan W. Irwin wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 10:09:31AM +0200, Davide Cesari wrote:
>>> [...]Hello to everybody,
>>> please note that shapelib is part of the OSGEO4W installation,
>>>
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/
>>>
>>> which is currently the official and sup
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 10:09:31AM +0200, Davide Cesari wrote:
>> [...]Hello to everybody,
>> please note that shapelib is part of the OSGEO4W installation,
>>
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/
>>
>> which is currently the official and supported way to install shapelib
>> (and to build
On 2012-09-30 14:41-0700 phil rosenberg wrote:
> Hi Alan
> I was just considering that one negative brought up regarding supporting
> shapefiles was the addition of extra dependencies. I sometimes feel (probably
> wrongly) that if only a basic bit of functionality is needed then it's easier
> t
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 10:09:31AM +0200, Davide Cesari wrote:
>
> On 30/09/2012 23:41, phil rosenberg wrote:
> > Hi Alan
> > I was just considering that one negative brought up regarding supporting
> > shapefiles was the addition of extra dependencies. I sometimes feel
> > (probably wrongly) that
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> *From:* Alan W. Irwin
> *To:* phil rosenberg
> *Cc:* "plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September 2012, 0:52
> *Subject:* Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
>
>
>
> But do you really want to re-implement a shapefile parser? The MIT or
&
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From: Alan W. Irwin
To: phil rosenberg
Cc: "plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 0:52
Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
But do you really want to re-implement a shapefile parser? The MIT or
LGPL dual-licensed shapelib library (se
On 2012-09-28 14:25-0700 phil rosenberg wrote:
> Looking again at the wikipedia shapefile page, the format seems pretty easy
> to read. The three files that it says are required are the .shp, shx and
> .dbf. The .shp is just a file header, then multiple records, each with a
> header specifying
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 09:37:34AM -0700, Alan Irwin wrote:
> On 2012-09-27 13:36+0200 Arjen Markus wrote:
>
> > On 2012-09-27 13:35, Andrew Ross wrote:
> >>
> >> Of course we could keep the current code as well and only enable
> >> shapefile support if the library is present. Shapefile support wo
On 2012-09-27 13:36+0200 Arjen Markus wrote:
> On 2012-09-27 13:35, Andrew Ross wrote:
>>
>> Of course we could keep the current code as well and only enable
>> shapefile support if the library is present. Shapefile support would
>> be convenient for users.
>>
>
> Actually, that is what I had in m
HI andrew,
On 2012-09-27 13:35, Andrew Ross wrote:
> There are such libraries (Phil mentioned one). We could use these, it
> just introduces another dependency on the core of plplot for what is
> a relatively minor feature. Currently the plplot core and some basic
> drivers can be compiled with a
There are such libraries (Phil mentioned one). We could use these, it
just introduces another dependency on the core of plplot for what is
a relatively minor feature. Currently the plplot core and some basic
drivers can be compiled with almost no dependencies. For testing,
porting to new systems
Hi Andrew, Phil,
On 2012-09-26 16:52, Andrew Ross wrote:
>
> I took a look at the shapefile format. My personal take is that this
> might be a little over the top. Strictly it requires 3 files including
> information like projections etc. Seems more than we need.
>
On the other hand, the shape
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 05:14:30AM -0700, phil rosenberg wrote:
> In many respects I agree. Plplot isn't a mapping tool and I could just get
> some outline data and plot it as a series of lines. As you say, when zoomed
> in the map projections make little difference.
>
> The stuff I'm doing at t
s.sourceforge.net"
Sent: Friday, 21 September 2012, 10:24
Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
Phil,
I appreciate your problems Phil. The mapping functions are a bit of a
half way house. Plplot doesn't (and I think shouldn't) provide full
mapping tools. That's a dif
lts, but
> maybe if the devs would consider allowing a 3 or 4 byte per point format the
> results would be much improved.
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> From: phil rosenberg
> To: Andrew Roach
> Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2012, 16:04
>
devs would consider allowing a 3 or 4 byte per point format the results
would be much improved.
Phil
From: phil rosenberg
To: Andrew Roach
Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2012, 16:04
Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
Unfortunately after a significant
sday, 13 September 2012, 12:13
Subject: Re: [Plplot-devel] map resolution
At 03:53 AM 13/09/2012 -0700, you wrote:
> Hi all
> I was just wondering what the format of the plPlot map files is? The maps
> included in plPlot are rather low resolution so wondered if it was possible
>
At 03:53 AM 13/09/2012 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi all
>I was just wondering what the format of the plPlot map files is? The maps
>included in plPlot are rather low resolution so wondered if it was
>possible for me to download more detailed ones form somewhere?
>
>Phil
It was the CIA World DataBank m
Hi all
I was just wondering what the format of the plPlot map files is? The maps
included in plPlot are rather low resolution so wondered if it was possible for
me to download more detailed ones form somewhere?
Phil--
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