annotation support, and help request

2006-11-09 Thread Alexander R Pruss
I've committed the new annotation support. The format has been hashed out about two years ago, and I've worked off and on on implementing it. The format is incompatible with the previous annotation format, so any annotations in the previous format will be lost (you can extract them from

Re: annotation support, and help request

2006-11-09 Thread Josh Menke
Hi Alexander,I tested the 2006-11-09-cvs build and am unable to open annotations I make.I click on a word, make an annotation, click OK, and see the word highlighted. If I then click on the word again, nothing happens. I'm using a Tungsten T5, and the 5-way also doesn't work.This is from

Re: annotation support, and help request

2006-11-09 Thread Alexander R Pruss
Josh Menke wrote: I click on a word, make an annotation, click OK, and see the word highlighted. If I then click on the word again, nothing happens. Yes, it does work, but only if the annotation is in the first paragraph on the page. :-) It should be fixed now in cvs. Alex -- Alexander R

Re: annotation support, and help request

2006-11-09 Thread Alexander R Pruss
Nevermind my icon request. I put the annotation create option in the bookmark dropdown menu instead. It makes sense since soon bookmarks will simply be a special kind of annotation (one with ANNOTATION_HIDDEN and ANNOTATION_BOOKMARK set). -- Alexander R. Pruss Associate Professor Department

annotation

2006-11-08 Thread Alexander R Pruss
Just a progress note: I haven't abandoned the Plucker annotation code. In fact, it now compiles. A bit of debugging and hopefully it'll go from my private svn tree to the official svn tree. Alex -- Alexander R Pruss Associate Professor Department of Philosophy Georgetown University

Re: annotation

2006-11-08 Thread David A. Desrosiers
Just a progress note: I haven't abandoned the Plucker annotation code. In fact, it now compiles. A bit of debugging and hopefully it'll go from my private svn tree to the official svn tree. Woo! Great to hear... now let's hope Palm isn't still dead. David A. Desrosiers [EMAIL

Re: annotation

2006-11-08 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
David A. Desrosiers wrote: Just a progress note: I haven't abandoned the Plucker annotation code. In fact, it now compiles. A bit of debugging and hopefully it'll go from my private svn tree to the official svn tree. Woo! Great to hear... now let's hope Palm isn't still dead

Re: annotation

2006-11-08 Thread Josh Menke
I'm all for that. I have no end of problems with my 5-way on custom builds.Congrats on the annotation code. Sorry I haven't helped. It's down the priority list for now while I finish a few pubs, etc. Just got one accepted (yay for me). --JoshOn 11/8/06, Alexander R. Pruss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: I'm writing a Desktop Reader: What's the Annotation Format?

2006-01-06 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
I am still working on the annotations for the Palm viewer, and so the annotation format is in the process of changing... Josh Menke wrote: For those interested, I added highlighting and annotations, but you can't save them at all. Just the beginning of it really. To annotate, you first

Re: I'm writing a Desktop Reader: What's the Annotation Format?

2006-01-06 Thread Josh Menke
://axon.cs.byu.edu/~josh/viewer_win32.zip http://axon.cs.byu.edu/~josh/viewer_src.zip On 1/5/06, *Josh Menke* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've written a wxPython plucker reader, still a little buggy and not full-featured, but I wanted to add annotation support. Where can I find the file

Re: I'm writing a Desktop Reader: What's the Annotation Format?

2006-01-06 Thread Josh Menke
://axon.cs.byu.edu/~josh/viewer_src.zip On 1/5/06, *Josh Menke* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've written a wxPython plucker reader, still a little buggy and not full-featured, but I wanted to add annotation support. Where can I find the file format for the annotation

Re: I'm writing a Desktop Reader: What's the Annotation Format?

2006-01-06 Thread Alan Hoyle
On 1/5/06, Josh Menke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've written a wxPython plucker reader, still a little buggy and not full-featured, but I wanted to add annotation support. Where can I find the file format for the annotation databases? If you're bored and want to test it on windows you can get

Re: I'm writing a Desktop Reader: What's the Annotation Format?

2006-01-06 Thread Josh Menke
a disseration, little things like that). The annotation stuff is also more of a priority for me, but images shouldn't too hard to add. I already parse them using some code taken from PyPlucker, I just don't display them. I'm still too new to wxPython to know exactly how to do that. But it's probably in some

I'm writing a Desktop Reader: What's the Annotation Format?

2006-01-05 Thread Josh Menke
I've written a wxPython plucker reader, still a little buggy and not full-featured, but I wanted to add annotation support. Where can I find the file format for the annotation databases? If you're bored and want to test it on windows you can get it here (exe made with py2exe): I have the source

Re: I'm writing a Desktop Reader: What's the Annotation Format?

2006-01-05 Thread Josh Menke
://axon.cs.byu.edu/~josh/viewer_win32.zip http://axon.cs.byu.edu/~josh/viewer_src.zipOn 1/5/06, Josh Menke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I've written a wxPython plucker reader, still a little buggy and not full-featured, but I wanted to add annotation support. Where can I find the file format

Re: annotation

2005-12-16 Thread Josh Menke
Great! Can't wait to see it! On 12/15/05, Alexander R Pruss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having worked on a variety of shareware projects (mainly FontSmoother and mySkin), I'm back to Plucker coding, continuing to plug away at new annotation code. I am using Mike's (I think) idea to have

annotation

2005-12-15 Thread Alexander R Pruss
Having worked on a variety of shareware projects (mainly FontSmoother and mySkin), I'm back to Plucker coding, continuing to plug away at new annotation code. I am using Mike's (I think) idea to have a database coded by uid, paragraph, and index in paragraph, so we can do quick binary

Re: annotation data

2004-07-03 Thread Michael Nordstrom
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004, Alexander R. Pruss wrote: Bookmarks select a point in the text while annotations select a range of text. Thus, a bookmark can be thought of as an annotation with triggerStop == triggerStart. If an option was added to include an annotation for the whole page, i.e

Re: annotation data

2004-07-03 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
Michael Nordstrom wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2004, Alexander R. Pruss wrote: Bookmarks select a point in the text while annotations select a range of text. Thus, a bookmark can be thought of as an annotation with triggerStop == triggerStart. If an option was added to include an annotation

Re: annotation data

2004-07-01 Thread Jewett, Jim J
Jewett, Jim J wrote: Will there be only one annotation/bookmark db per text db? Alexander R. Pruss: Yes. I don't think the renderer should be scanning several. I agree with this, in principle; the question is what sort of tradeoffs that will require. For example, if I were reading something

Re: annotation data

2004-07-01 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
. The uid is the record number of the annotated record. The index is the index of annotation within the annotations for this record. Thus, the first annotation for this record is 0, etc. So you are assuming that an annotation-db record will contain several different annotations

Re: annotation data

2004-07-01 Thread Jewett, Jim J
on smaller subsections within the insertions. From plucker's perspective, it just has to check (1) whether any current annotations are completed (2) whether the next annotation has begun. (This may be slow to catch some long-running annotations when moving backwards.) The structure I see lets you

Re: annotation data

2004-07-01 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
commentary on smaller subsections within the insertions. While I think it is clear that people would use a simple annotation facility for making marginal notes, I am not sure that something as sophisticated as you envision would have many users. For instance, it would take a lot of effort to prepare

Re: annotation data

2004-06-30 Thread Jewett, Jim J
Alexander R. Pruss: ... how annotations should be stored. The consensus is that they're being moved out of metadata, and into a separate db. Will there be only one annotation/bookmark db per text db? I know that one of the earlier goals was to distribute commentaries, and there will probably

Re: annotation data

2004-06-30 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
Jewett, Jim J wrote: Will there be only one annotation/bookmark db per text db? Yes. I don't think the renderer should be scanning several. I know that one of the earlier goals was to distribute commentaries, and there will probably be some texts that have more than one relevant commentary

Re: annotation data

2004-06-30 Thread Michael Nordstrom
worry about the 6 bytes per entry very much myself. Using separate records are not so much for saving space, but to be able to identify them. How do you know if a record contains a bookmark or an annotation for the whole page? /Mike ___ plucker-dev

Re: annotation data

2004-06-30 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
Michael Nordstrom wrote: I wouldn't worry about the 6 bytes per entry very much myself. Using separate records are not so much for saving space, but to be able to identify them. How do you know if a record contains a bookmark or an annotation for the whole page? Bookmarks select a point

Re: annotation data

2004-06-19 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
really need the distinction between bookmarks and annotations. From a user point of view, the only difference is that an annotation highlights a bit of text, though the user may use the two for different purposes (but maybe not). It'd do little harm to add a UInt32 yoffset to the annotation entries

Re: Annotation

2004-05-31 Thread Michael Nordstrom
On Sat, May 29, 2004, Chris Hawks wrote: Did you know that you can't compile the viewer with Word Lookup and without Annotation?? Other problems: - At least one string is missing, $$PREFSLOOKUP: ANNOTATE. - Some strings must be shortened, e.g. Annotate select word doesn't fit

Annotation

2004-05-29 Thread Chris Hawks
Alex: Did you know that you can't compile the viewer with Word Lookup and without Annotation?? It complains about paragraphTop being undefined in line 2372: offsets[ len ] = prevPosition - paragraphTop; I'm spending 4 days a week in Illinois working and 3 days in Indiana packing

Re: annotation branch binary

2004-04-22 Thread Dave Maddock
The binaries and source for the annotation branch are at: Thanks for these. 1. I'd like to have a way of selecting a region for highlighting rather than just one word. Definately agree. I like what you've done so far, but I probably wouldn't use annotations until this is possible and per

annotation branch binary

2004-04-21 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
The binaries and source for the annotation branch are at: www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ap85/dl/annot-bin-apr21-04.zip www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ap85/dl/annot-src-apr21-04.zip Alex -- Dr. Alexander R. Pruss || e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Philosophy Department || online papers and home page

RE: annotation branch binary

2004-04-21 Thread Lambert, Mark
Got it, but can't find how to do an annotation. Any help? Thanks, Mark E-Mail messages may contain viruses, worms, or other malicious code. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective action against such code. Sender

RE: annotation branch binary

2004-04-21 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Lambert, Mark wrote: Got it, but can't find how to do an annotation. Any help? Assign the annotation action (which may be something like $$ACTION: ...) to something, e.g., to a key, press it and tap on a word, or set the lookup pref to do annotations. Alex -- Dr

RE: annotation branch binary

2004-04-21 Thread Lambert, Mark
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander R. Pruss Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: annotation branch binary On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Lambert, Mark wrote: Got it, but can't find how

Re: annotation branch binary

2004-04-21 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
From: Lambert, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today must be my stupid day. I have 4 $$SELECT:LOOKUP items. They seem to work, but when I click on an highlighted annotation and select Delete, sometimes they all go away. In another case, I annotated the first word and it didn't hilight; however if I

RE: annotation branch

2004-04-20 Thread Lambert, Mark
I'll try it if you can send me a binary or tell me where to get one. I'm not set up to compile it right now. Mark E-Mail messages may contain viruses, worms, or other malicious code. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking

annotation branch

2004-04-19 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
This is just a reminder that my annotation branch still exists. Any bug reports would be welcome. I'm periodically updating the branch with new stuff from HEAD. Alex -- Dr. Alexander R. Pruss Department of Philosophy Georgetown University Washington, DC 20057-1133 U.S.A. e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Newbie question on annotation

2004-02-19 Thread Dave Maddock
annotations are stored. Is it possible to use distiller (or add the capability to distiller) to create a .pdb that includes annotations? As above, it isn't part of the Plucker format and no distillers currently support generating annotation information. I imagine that this may be theoretically

Re: Newbie question on annotation (plus new Question)

2004-02-19 Thread Barry Roberts
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 10:11:56AM -0500, Dave Maddock wrote: I'm using Vade Mecum to read plucker documents, and I like the annotations and highlighting. My once-trusty visor edge died, so I don't know if the official viewer does that or not. Nope, this is Vade Mecum specific. That's

Re: Newbie question on annotation (plus new Question)

2004-02-19 Thread David A. Desrosiers
Is there any way to export from a plucker doc to xml? Or html? Unpluck/explode, in the tools subdirectory. d. ___ plucker-dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.rubberchicken.org/mailman/listinfo/plucker-dev

Re: Newbie question on annotation (plus new Question)

2004-02-19 Thread Alan Hoyle
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 at 11:02, David A. Desrosiers wrote: Is there any way to export from a plucker doc to xml? Or html? Unpluck/explode, in the tools subdirectory. Is there any reason this isn't included in the Plucker Desktop distribution? Why must I have to compile from source to

Re: Newbie question on annotation (plus new Question)

2004-02-19 Thread Alan Hoyle
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 at 11:36, David A. Desrosiers wrote: Is there any reason this isn't included in the Plucker Desktop distribution? Why must I have to compile from source to get these tools? Probably because the desktop should be just that, a desktop. The other reason is

Re: Newbie question on annotation (plus new Question)

2004-02-19 Thread David A. Desrosiers
Well, I can understand it not being on the windows side (and no I'm not volunteering ;-). Why isn't it on the linux side either? Because explode/unpluck are not built or shipped by default. Similar to most Linux applications where the ./contrib directory under the source tree isn't

Newbie question on annotation

2004-02-16 Thread Barry Roberts
I'm using Vade Mecum to read plucker documents, and I like the annotations and highlighting. My once-trusty visor edge died, so I don't know if the official viewer does that or not. I've looked at the Plucker DB Format, and it's not obvious to me how annotations are stored. Is it possible to

Annotation-Based Web Content Transcoding

2002-01-26 Thread David A. Desrosiers
Digging around trying to explain what transcoding was to someone, I stumbled upon this, which actually is an incredibly well laid out document on the matter: http://www9.org/w9cdrom/169/169.html Have a great weekend everyone! /d