Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-30 Thread Patrick J. Timlick
I think 10Mbit ethernet requires 2pairs, 100mbit requires 4 pairs, perhaps you broke a pair or two during installation. See http://www.derose.net/steve/guides/wiring/#phone . I used this guide to run reliable 10Mbit Ethernet and an analog phone line through 8 pair Cat 3 buried under a driveway.

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Connors
Patrick J. Timlick wrote: I think 10Mbit ethernet requires 2pairs, 100mbit requires 4 pairs, perhaps you broke a pair or two during installation. See http://www.derose.net/steve/guides/wiring/#phone . I used this guide to run reliable 10Mbit Ethernet and an analog phone line through 8 pair

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-30 Thread Galen Seitz
Patrick J. Timlick wrote: I think 10Mbit ethernet requires 2pairs, 100mbit requires 4 pairs, perhaps you broke a pair or two during installation. See http://www.derose.net/steve/guides/wiring/#phone . I used this guide to run reliable 10Mbit Ethernet and an analog phone line through 8

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-30 Thread Neal
I believe the following may useful and/or interesting: 100BASE-CX (STP) is only spec'd for 25 meters (82 feet). (Same for 1000BASE-CX, 25 meters.) 100BASE-TX uses two pairs UTP, Cat5 or better, 100 meters. 1000BASE-T needs four pairs UTP, also Cat5 or better, 100 meters. 1000BASE-TX uses two

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Connors
Galen Seitz wrote: 10BASE-T and 100BASE-TX only require 2 pairs. There was a version of 100Mbit that required 4 pairs(100BASE-T4), but I believe it is obsolete. Anyone still using 100BASE-T4 would almost certainly be aware of that fact.

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread drew wymore
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 21:13 -0800, Daniel Johnson wrote: The other diskless machine on another nic off of the same server, dodo, boots just fine by the way. Is something obviously wrong in my dhcp

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread Mike Connors
Michael Robinson wrote: I wonder if being a switch it was blocking the dhcp replies? Switches don't block broadcast protocols like DHCP. Routers do and if DHCP traffic has to traverse a different network than a DHCP proxy must be configured. However, there are a couple of cases where dhcp

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread Michael Robinson
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 01:12 -0800, Mike Connors wrote: Michael Robinson wrote: I wonder if being a switch it was blocking the dhcp replies? Switches don't block broadcast protocols like DHCP. Routers do and if DHCP traffic has to traverse a different network than a DHCP proxy must be

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread Mike Connors
Michael Robinson wrote:I tried to replace the Dlink hub with a Netgear DSS5+ 5 port switch. I guess my switch is faulty. It seems unlikely that the cables themselves didn't handle 100BaseTX transmission okay. Obviously there was some networking from the diskless client to the server at

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread Larry Brigman
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: No VLANS are in use.  I am running DHCP 3 server on CentOS 5.3 listening on an actual Netgear FA311 network card with an actual Cat5e UTP cable running 100' into the attic where at this point I go to a

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread Michael Robinson
On a hunch after verifying that it still works when I use a 10Mbit hub, I replaced the hub with a crossover coupler. That is, I used something that is almost equivalent to a 100Mbit hub with 2 ports. It isn't working where I'm seeing the same symptoms. What could be making this work at 10Mbit

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread Mike Connors
Michael Robinson wrote: I'm wondering if the Cat5 STP cable is having problems. If I were working on this problem, the 1st thing I'd do is use the ethtool command to look at the physical Ethernet statistics on both sides. If there's any problems at the physical layer you'll see them reflected

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread Michael Robinson
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 15:28 -0800, Mike Connors wrote: Michael Robinson wrote: I'm wondering if the Cat5 STP cable is having problems. If I were working on this problem, the 1st thing I'd do is use the ethtool command to look at the physical Ethernet statistics on both sides. If there's

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread wes
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.comwrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 15:28 -0800, Mike Connors wrote: Michael Robinson wrote: I'm wondering if the Cat5 STP cable is having problems. If I were working on this problem, the 1st thing I'd do is use the

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-28 Thread Steve D...
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: Trouble is, the other end doesn't boot if this doesn't work.  I was seeing packet errors on the far end though before I tried to reformat the etherboot disk. Can you boot that machine off a Live CD? It would

Re: [PLUG] Troubleshooting DHCP...

2009-12-27 Thread Michael Robinson
On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 21:13 -0800, Daniel Johnson wrote: The other diskless machine on another nic off of the same server, dodo, boots just fine by the way. Is something obviously wrong in my dhcp config file or am I looking at a problem with the switch? DHCP worked when I was using a