Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 18:26:56 -0700
Denis Heidtmann  dijo:

>I figured out how to get to the bios.  There is not boot-order option
>I am accustomed to--the order is set by properties UEFI/legacy rather
>than CD/HD, etc.  I set it to legacy, but it still did not boot the
>CD.  UEFI is disabled as well.  I guess I need to explore other
>options.  Ideas?

This will probably not help, but here goes anyway. On my current laptop
there are two boot options: one takes you to the BIOS and the other (F7)
gives you a list of devices from which you can select the one to boot
to. But this is not a Thinkpad. :(
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Denis Heidtmann]

I figured out how to get to the bios.  There is not boot-order option I am
accustomed to--the order is set by properties UEFI/legacy rather than
CD/HD, etc.  I set it to legacy, but it still did not boot the CD.  UEFI is
disabled as well.  I guess I need to explore other options.  Ideas?

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:

> Good idea.  I tried that.  I need to figure out how to get the machine to
> look at the CD drive. It is a Lenovo ThinkCenter M92P (refurbished).
>
> -Denis
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Rich Shepard 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
>>
>> > I have no reason to run Win 10 (except as a guest) on the machine other
>> > than to initially ensure myself that the machine is functioning
>> properly.
>>
>> Denis,
>>
>>I cannot answer your other questions but I can suggest you use a live
>> linux disk or flash drive to test the machine's functions. That'll also
>> tell
>> you if there are linux issues to be resolved later.
>>
>> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Vedanta Teacher]

I must be getting old & cautious... I've started
researching compatibility issues as much as I
can before purchase.

Blessings,
Paul W.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:

> I found this from a 2013 posting:
> Lenovo ThinkCentre M92p only boots Windows or Redhat. Hard coded into UEFI.
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=MTIyOTg
> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html?thread=774619
>
> If true, I may have to return this machine.
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Denis Heidtmann  >
> wrote:
>
> > Good idea.  I tried that.  I need to figure out how to get the machine to
> > look at the CD drive. It is a Lenovo ThinkCenter M92P (refurbished).
> >
> > -Denis
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Rich Shepard 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have no reason to run Win 10 (except as a guest) on the machine
> other
> >> > than to initially ensure myself that the machine is functioning
> >> properly.
> >>
> >> Denis,
> >>
> >>I cannot answer your other questions but I can suggest you use a live
> >> linux disk or flash drive to test the machine's functions. That'll also
> >> tell
> >> you if there are linux issues to be resolved later.
> >>
> >> Rich
> >>
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Re: [PLUG] Operation Status

[Vedanta Teacher]

I wish you well. I've suffered on/off for several years
with Tachycardia & Arrhythmia. So, I know the feelings
of mortality.

Blessings,
Paul W.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mark Phillips 
wrote:

> Alan,
>
> Glad to hear the surgery went well and you are on the mend!
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Michael Rasmussen 
> wrote:
>
> > Welcome back to dying of old age, something we can all aspire to.
> >
> > On 2017-08-09 12:54, Alan wrote:
> > > The heart ablation surgery went very well. A few things need to heal,
> > > but I feel a lot better.  I have some bruises and a couple of holes
> > > that need to heal, but it all went much better than I expected.
> >
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Denis Heidtmann]

I found this from a 2013 posting:
Lenovo ThinkCentre M92p only boots Windows or Redhat. Hard coded into UEFI.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=MTIyOTg
http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html?thread=774619

If true, I may have to return this machine.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:

> Good idea.  I tried that.  I need to figure out how to get the machine to
> look at the CD drive. It is a Lenovo ThinkCenter M92P (refurbished).
>
> -Denis
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Rich Shepard 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
>>
>> > I have no reason to run Win 10 (except as a guest) on the machine other
>> > than to initially ensure myself that the machine is functioning
>> properly.
>>
>> Denis,
>>
>>I cannot answer your other questions but I can suggest you use a live
>> linux disk or flash drive to test the machine's functions. That'll also
>> tell
>> you if there are linux issues to be resolved later.
>>
>> Rich
>>
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Denis Heidtmann wrote:

> Good idea.  I tried that.  I need to figure out how to get the machine to
> look at the CD drive. It is a Lenovo ThinkCenter M92P (refurbished).

Denis,

   Often, pressing F12 while the system goes through its POST will bring up
the BIOS interface. In there you can change the order in which the kernel
looks for a boot kernel, Placing the optical drive and usb ports before the
internal hard drive allows you booting options.

Regards,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Denis Heidtmann]

Good idea.  I tried that.  I need to figure out how to get the machine to
look at the CD drive. It is a Lenovo ThinkCenter M92P (refurbished).

-Denis

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
>
> > I have no reason to run Win 10 (except as a guest) on the machine other
> > than to initially ensure myself that the machine is functioning properly.
>
> Denis,
>
>I cannot answer your other questions but I can suggest you use a live
> linux disk or flash drive to test the machine's functions. That'll also
> tell
> you if there are linux issues to be resolved later.
>
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] 16.04.3 VGA Graphic display stopped working

[Bill Morita]

Ed

Thank you for the response,  I did some experimentation

It has been 5 days since I first experienced this issue.
On a lark I tried  "apt-get update"   "apt-get upgrade" on both problem
systems
 and the *problem resolved on both systems*.
None of the updates appeared to be display related!?!??

I recallrf doing an "apt autoremove" to prior to reboot before the problem
appeared.
Tried that again and BINGO, display problems again.
Even the F1 terminal mode was not stable.
Had to ssh in from another system and did another update/upgrade
This time no updates occurred.  Rebooted.  Display *working*.again.

Not sure what to think now  Will avoid the "autoremove" in the future


-- Bill Morita
512-569-6387 (Cell)

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:38 AM, King Beowulf  wrote:

> On 08/05/2017 09:04 PM, Alan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2017-08-04 at 10:04 -0700, Bill Morita wrote:
> >> 16.04.3 VGA Graphic display stopped working.
> >> Even a No-Machine connection does not seem to work.
> >>
> >> Ctrl-Alt-F1  does get me a simple text terminal.
> >>
> >> Anybody else seen this ?
> >>
> >> It has happened on both my systems.
> >> Currently booting to an older kernel to operated.
> >>
> >
> > What video card? What does lspci show?
> > ___
>
> Bill
>
> More importantly, what does lsmod show?  You have terminal output so the
> card is working (hence nothing new in lspci). if the nouveau (Mesa,
> F/OSS) or nvidia (proprietary) modules are not loaded...
>
> Check:
>
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>
> for clues.  Did you update the kernel just before you lost the X
> display?  If using the proprietary binary nvidia blob, the kernel module
> is tied to a particular kernel version/release. After kernel update, you
> have to recompile the nvidia module kernel interface.
>
> Ubuntu and derivatives have a nasty habit of automatically updating the
> kernel on a whim, resulting in the death of proprietary drivers.
>
> -Ed
>
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Re: [PLUG] Operation Status

[Mark Phillips]

Alan,

Glad to hear the surgery went well and you are on the mend!

Mark

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Michael Rasmussen 
wrote:

> Welcome back to dying of old age, something we can all aspire to.
>
> On 2017-08-09 12:54, Alan wrote:
> > The heart ablation surgery went very well. A few things need to heal,
> > but I feel a lot better.  I have some bruises and a couple of holes
> > that need to heal, but it all went much better than I expected.
>
>
> --
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Re: [PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Denis Heidtmann wrote:

> I have no reason to run Win 10 (except as a guest) on the machine other
> than to initially ensure myself that the machine is functioning properly.

Denis,

   I cannot answer your other questions but I can suggest you use a live
linux disk or flash drive to test the machine's functions. That'll also tell
you if there are linux issues to be resolved later.

Rich

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[PLUG] Migrating Win 10 on new machine to VirtualBox

[Denis Heidtmann]

I just purchased a new desktop machine.  It has Windows 10 pro, not yet
activated.  After installing Ubuntu I would like to be able to run this
Windows as a guest in VB.  My searching tells me that this can be a bit
tricky.  I am not in any hurry to migrate.  I first want to make sure I do
not do anything which will cut off this possibility.  Do I need to backup
something from the machine before I install Linux, or can I just use the
COA sticker to get what I need from Microsoft after I have wiped the HD,
installed Ubuntu and VB?  I have no reason to run Win 10 (except as a
guest) on the machine other than to initially ensure myself that the
machine is functioning properly.

Thanks,
-Denis
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Re: [PLUG] Another email test

[Dick Steffens]

On 08/09/2017 02:16 PM, Dick Steffens wrote:
> As mentioned on Plug Talk, I'm testing email reception. I'm hoping I'll
> see this one come back, too.
>

And that's working, too. I'll resend my earlier question.

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Dick Steffens

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[PLUG] Another email test

[Dick Steffens]

As mentioned on Plug Talk, I'm testing email reception. I'm hoping I'll 
see this one come back, too.

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Re: [PLUG] Operation Status

[Michael Rasmussen]

Welcome back to dying of old age, something we can all aspire to.

On 2017-08-09 12:54, Alan wrote:
> The heart ablation surgery went very well. A few things need to heal,
> but I feel a lot better.  I have some bruises and a couple of holes
> that need to heal, but it all went much better than I expected.


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Re: [PLUG] Operation Status

[Paul Heinlein]

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Alan wrote:
>
>> The heart ablation surgery went very well. A few things need to 
>> heal, but I feel a lot better. I have some bruises and a couple of 
>> holes that need to heal, but it all went much better than I 
>> expected.
>
>   Excellent, Alan! Hope you quickly heal and feel young again.

Agreed!

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Re: [PLUG] Operation Status

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Alan wrote:

> The heart ablation surgery went very well. A few things need to heal, but
> I feel a lot better. I have some bruises and a couple of holes that need
> to heal, but it all went much better than I expected.

   Excellent, Alan! Hope you quickly heal and feel young again.

Rich
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[PLUG] Operation Status

[Alan]

The heart ablation surgery went very well. A few things need to heal,
but I feel a lot better.  I have some bruises and a couple of holes
that need to heal, but it all went much better than I expected.
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