Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-22 Thread wes
I found an old HP deskjet 1000 at a thrift store that takes a plain 12v dc
power supply. I got it for the same goal, to power it straight off the car.
Haven't bothered to search for ink yet

-wes

On Monday, August 21, 2017, Dave  wrote:

> Battery printers have existed for many decades Michael but I wouldn't
> know where to refer you today.  Household appliance repairmen and others
> carry them on the job for tech analysis reports and receipts. Should not
> be too hard to find an OEM. Someone here should know.  -Dave.
>
>
> On 8/20/2017 11:08 PM, Michael Barnes wrote:
> > Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer
> that
> > would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly-away
> > package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave >
> wrote:
> >
> >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
> >>
> >> Here's a follow-up report:
> >>
> >> /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It
> claims
> >> //
> >> //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB. For $29
> >> it's //
> >> //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition to a
> //
> >> //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
> >> /
> >> 
> 
> >>
> >> Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to make
> >> sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
> >>
> >> The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following the
> >> detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
> >>
> >> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
> >>
> >> They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some ???
> >> file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
> >>
> >> The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password. If I
> >> had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root* and
> >> made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up front
> >> before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
> >>
> >> I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
> >> printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
> >> perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab to
> >> that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on the
> >> screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than it
> >> should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
> >> something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3 Install,
> >> this ain't bad.
> >>
> >> Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to wring
> >> it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone.
> >>
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-22 Thread wes
I have a pop-can shaped inverter that fits nicely in a cup holder. It's not
so powerful it they causes problems with power draw. On really hot days, I
plug a fan in so I can pretend I'm ok with not having air conditioning.

-wes

On Tuesday, August 22, 2017, Tom  wrote:

> I solved this kind of portability, and more, by purchasing an inverter.
> I find that way more universal than trying to get stuff working on
> battery power with unstable voltage. True 110V socket in the car is
> awesome for road and marine trips. The size of the inverter is about
> 15x20x5cm.
> If you chose to go this route, I would advice to get true sine wave
> inverter. It costs 2-3x more but it works way better than the square
> and/or modified sine wave inverters. They (not the true sine wave one)
> caused my power bricks + the inverter to overheat and it was bloody
> noisy. You can draw max 15A out of lighter socket in the car so 120
> -150W inverter is all you can feed without wiring it directly to the
> battery. I got it in Frys' after returning the cheaper modified sine
> wave one.
> Hope it helps, Tomas
> On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 23:08 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
> > Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer
> > that
> > would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly
> > -away
> > package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave >
> wrote:
> >
> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
> > >
> > > Here's a follow-up report:
> > >
> > > /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It
> > > claims
> > > //
> > > //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB.
> > > For $29
> > > it's //
> > > //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition
> > > to a //
> > > //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
> > > /
> > > ---
> > > -
> > >
> > > Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to
> > > make
> > > sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
> > >
> > > The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following
> > > the
> > > detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
> > >
> > > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
> > >
> > > They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some
> > > ???
> > > file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
> > >
> > > The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password.
> > > If I
> > > had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root*
> > > and
> > > made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up
> > > front
> > > before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
> > >
> > > I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
> > > printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
> > > perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab
> > > to
> > > that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on
> > > the
> > > screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than
> > > it
> > > should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
> > > something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3
> > > Install,
> > > this ain't bad.
> > >
> > > Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to
> > > wring
> > > it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone.
> > >
> > >
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-22 Thread Chuck Hast
That is the way to go. I have a 2nd battery in the van, there is a Anderson
power pole hanging off of that battery and a bunch of breakers for other
devices. I try to use the receptacles for low power quick use things.

I tested out a ID-5100 but quickly moved it to the Anderson Power Pole be-
cause the I^2R loss was so great through the connector (about 1.5-2v) that
all I did was test the radio at low power then move it to its proper place.

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Dave  wrote:

> Yep. I've most recently run an FT-857D off the receptacle but at reduced
> power. Ran full power for a bit just to see what would happen but
> quickly backed off. Use a direct battery tap for serious work. 73.
>
>
> On 8/22/2017 12:41 PM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > Yes I bet that most of us amateur radio people have cooked at least one
> cig
> > lighter receptacle, usually with a high power radio. I did one about a
> year
> > ago.
> > Forgot to move it over to a Anderson power pole I had installed and
> smoked
> > the receptacle.
> >
> > Sine wave good, square wave bad, way bad... Modified sine wave is still a
> > square wave, it just puts the transition off in time, but it is still
> ugly.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:24 AM, David  wrote:
> >
> >> Be careful drawing that much power out of a cigarette lighter. The
> >> connection will get hotter than a pistol! It is not meant to handle that
> >> much current for more than a minute or so at time. 3 or 4 amps is a good
> >> long term maximum, which is still 40 or 50 watts. Been there ... done
> >> that. -Dave.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/22/2017 12:25 AM, Tom wrote:
> >>> I solved this kind of portability, and more, by purchasing an inverter.
> >>> I find that way more universal than trying to get stuff working on
> >>> battery power with unstable voltage. True 110V socket in the car is
> >>> awesome for road and marine trips. The size of the inverter is about
> >>> 15x20x5cm.
> >>> If you chose to go this route, I would advice to get true sine wave
> >>> inverter. It costs 2-3x more but it works way better than the square
> >>> and/or modified sine wave inverters. They (not the true sine wave one)
> >>> caused my power bricks + the inverter to overheat and it was bloody
> >>> noisy. You can draw max 15A out of lighter socket in the car so 120
> >>> -150W inverter is all you can feed without wiring it directly to the
> >>> battery. I got it in Frys' after returning the cheaper modified sine
> >>> wave one.
> >>> Hope it helps, Tomas
> >>> On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 23:08 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
>  Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer
>  that
>  would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly
>  -away
>  package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.
> 
>  Michael
> 
> 
>  On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
> >
> > Here's a follow-up report:
> >
> > /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It
> > claims
> > //
> > //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB.
> > For $29
> > it's //
> > //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition
> > to a //
> > //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
> > /
> > ---
> > -
> >
> > Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to
> > make
> > sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
> >
> > The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following
> > the
> > detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
> >
> > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
> >
> > They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some
> > ???
> > file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
> >
> > The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password.
> > If I
> > had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root*
> > and
> > made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up
> > front
> > before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
> >
> > I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
> > printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
> > perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab
> > to
> > that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on
> > the
> > screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than
> > it
> > should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
> > something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3
> > 

Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-22 Thread Dave
Yep. I've most recently run an FT-857D off the receptacle but at reduced 
power. Ran full power for a bit just to see what would happen but 
quickly backed off. Use a direct battery tap for serious work. 73.


On 8/22/2017 12:41 PM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> Yes I bet that most of us amateur radio people have cooked at least one cig
> lighter receptacle, usually with a high power radio. I did one about a year
> ago.
> Forgot to move it over to a Anderson power pole I had installed and smoked
> the receptacle.
>
> Sine wave good, square wave bad, way bad... Modified sine wave is still a
> square wave, it just puts the transition off in time, but it is still ugly.
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:24 AM, David  wrote:
>
>> Be careful drawing that much power out of a cigarette lighter. The
>> connection will get hotter than a pistol! It is not meant to handle that
>> much current for more than a minute or so at time. 3 or 4 amps is a good
>> long term maximum, which is still 40 or 50 watts. Been there ... done
>> that. -Dave.
>>
>>
>> On 8/22/2017 12:25 AM, Tom wrote:
>>> I solved this kind of portability, and more, by purchasing an inverter.
>>> I find that way more universal than trying to get stuff working on
>>> battery power with unstable voltage. True 110V socket in the car is
>>> awesome for road and marine trips. The size of the inverter is about
>>> 15x20x5cm.
>>> If you chose to go this route, I would advice to get true sine wave
>>> inverter. It costs 2-3x more but it works way better than the square
>>> and/or modified sine wave inverters. They (not the true sine wave one)
>>> caused my power bricks + the inverter to overheat and it was bloody
>>> noisy. You can draw max 15A out of lighter socket in the car so 120
>>> -150W inverter is all you can feed without wiring it directly to the
>>> battery. I got it in Frys' after returning the cheaper modified sine
>>> wave one.
>>> Hope it helps, Tomas
>>> On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 23:08 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
 Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer
 that
 would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly
 -away
 package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.

 Michael


 On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave  wrote:

> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
>
> Here's a follow-up report:
>
> /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It
> claims
> //
> //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB.
> For $29
> it's //
> //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition
> to a //
> //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
> /
> ---
> -
>
> Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to
> make
> sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
>
> The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following
> the
> detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
>
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
>
> They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some
> ???
> file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
>
> The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password.
> If I
> had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root*
> and
> made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up
> front
> before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
>
> I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
> printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
> perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab
> to
> that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on
> the
> screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than
> it
> should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
> something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3
> Install,
> this ain't bad.
>
> Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to
> wring
> it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone.
>
>
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-22 Thread Chuck Hast
Yes I bet that most of us amateur radio people have cooked at least one cig
lighter receptacle, usually with a high power radio. I did one about a year
ago.
Forgot to move it over to a Anderson power pole I had installed and smoked
the receptacle.

Sine wave good, square wave bad, way bad... Modified sine wave is still a
square wave, it just puts the transition off in time, but it is still ugly.

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:24 AM, David  wrote:

> Be careful drawing that much power out of a cigarette lighter. The
> connection will get hotter than a pistol! It is not meant to handle that
> much current for more than a minute or so at time. 3 or 4 amps is a good
> long term maximum, which is still 40 or 50 watts. Been there ... done
> that. -Dave.
>
>
> On 8/22/2017 12:25 AM, Tom wrote:
> > I solved this kind of portability, and more, by purchasing an inverter.
> > I find that way more universal than trying to get stuff working on
> > battery power with unstable voltage. True 110V socket in the car is
> > awesome for road and marine trips. The size of the inverter is about
> > 15x20x5cm.
> > If you chose to go this route, I would advice to get true sine wave
> > inverter. It costs 2-3x more but it works way better than the square
> > and/or modified sine wave inverters. They (not the true sine wave one)
> > caused my power bricks + the inverter to overheat and it was bloody
> > noisy. You can draw max 15A out of lighter socket in the car so 120
> > -150W inverter is all you can feed without wiring it directly to the
> > battery. I got it in Frys' after returning the cheaper modified sine
> > wave one.
> > Hope it helps, Tomas
> > On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 23:08 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
> >> Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer
> >> that
> >> would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly
> >> -away
> >> package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave  wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
> >>>
> >>> Here's a follow-up report:
> >>>
> >>> /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It
> >>> claims
> >>> //
> >>> //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB.
> >>> For $29
> >>> it's //
> >>> //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition
> >>> to a //
> >>> //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
> >>> /
> >>> ---
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to
> >>> make
> >>> sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
> >>>
> >>> The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following
> >>> the
> >>> detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
> >>>
> >>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
> >>>
> >>> They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some
> >>> ???
> >>> file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
> >>>
> >>> The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password.
> >>> If I
> >>> had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root*
> >>> and
> >>> made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up
> >>> front
> >>> before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
> >>>
> >>> I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
> >>> printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
> >>> perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab
> >>> to
> >>> that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on
> >>> the
> >>> screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than
> >>> it
> >>> should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
> >>> something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3
> >>> Install,
> >>> this ain't bad.
> >>>
> >>> Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to
> >>> wring
> >>> it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone.
> >>>
> >>>
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Ph 4:13 KJV
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Fil 4:13 RVR1960

Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-22 Thread David
Be careful drawing that much power out of a cigarette lighter. The 
connection will get hotter than a pistol! It is not meant to handle that 
much current for more than a minute or so at time. 3 or 4 amps is a good 
long term maximum, which is still 40 or 50 watts. Been there ... done 
that. -Dave.


On 8/22/2017 12:25 AM, Tom wrote:
> I solved this kind of portability, and more, by purchasing an inverter.
> I find that way more universal than trying to get stuff working on
> battery power with unstable voltage. True 110V socket in the car is
> awesome for road and marine trips. The size of the inverter is about
> 15x20x5cm.
> If you chose to go this route, I would advice to get true sine wave
> inverter. It costs 2-3x more but it works way better than the square
> and/or modified sine wave inverters. They (not the true sine wave one)
> caused my power bricks + the inverter to overheat and it was bloody
> noisy. You can draw max 15A out of lighter socket in the car so 120
> -150W inverter is all you can feed without wiring it directly to the
> battery. I got it in Frys' after returning the cheaper modified sine
> wave one.
> Hope it helps, Tomas
> On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 23:08 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
>> Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer
>> that
>> would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly
>> -away
>> package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave  wrote:
>>
>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
>>>
>>> Here's a follow-up report:
>>>
>>> /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It
>>> claims
>>> //
>>> //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB.
>>> For $29
>>> it's //
>>> //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition
>>> to a //
>>> //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
>>> /
>>> ---
>>> -
>>>
>>> Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to
>>> make
>>> sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
>>>
>>> The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following
>>> the
>>> detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
>>>
>>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
>>>
>>> They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some
>>> ???
>>> file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
>>>
>>> The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password.
>>> If I
>>> had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root*
>>> and
>>> made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up
>>> front
>>> before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
>>>
>>> I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
>>> printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
>>> perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab
>>> to
>>> that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on
>>> the
>>> screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than
>>> it
>>> should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
>>> something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3
>>> Install,
>>> this ain't bad.
>>>
>>> Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to
>>> wring
>>> it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-22 Thread Tom
I solved this kind of portability, and more, by purchasing an inverter.
I find that way more universal than trying to get stuff working on
battery power with unstable voltage. True 110V socket in the car is
awesome for road and marine trips. The size of the inverter is about
15x20x5cm.
If you chose to go this route, I would advice to get true sine wave
inverter. It costs 2-3x more but it works way better than the square
and/or modified sine wave inverters. They (not the true sine wave one)
caused my power bricks + the inverter to overheat and it was bloody
noisy. You can draw max 15A out of lighter socket in the car so 120
-150W inverter is all you can feed without wiring it directly to the
battery. I got it in Frys' after returning the cheaper modified sine
wave one. 
Hope it helps, Tomas
On Sun, 2017-08-20 at 23:08 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
> Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer
> that
> would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly
> -away
> package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
> > 
> > Here's a follow-up report:
> > 
> > /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It
> > claims
> > //
> > //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB.
> > For $29
> > it's //
> > //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition
> > to a //
> > //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
> > /
> > ---
> > -
> > 
> > Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to
> > make
> > sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
> > 
> > The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following
> > the
> > detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
> > 
> > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
> > 
> > They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some
> > ???
> > file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
> > 
> > The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password.
> > If I
> > had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root*
> > and
> > made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up
> > front
> > before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
> > 
> > I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
> > printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
> > perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab
> > to
> > that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on
> > the
> > screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than
> > it
> > should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
> > something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3
> > Install,
> > this ain't bad.
> > 
> > Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to
> > wring
> > it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone.
> > 
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-21 Thread Dave
Battery printers have existed for many decades Michael but I wouldn't 
know where to refer you today.  Household appliance repairmen and others 
carry them on the job for tech analysis reports and receipts. Should not 
be too hard to find an OEM. Someone here should know.  -Dave.


On 8/20/2017 11:08 PM, Michael Barnes wrote:
> Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer that
> would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly-away
> package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave  wrote:
>
>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
>>
>> Here's a follow-up report:
>>
>> /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It claims
>> //
>> //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB. For $29
>> it's //
>> //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition to a //
>> //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
>> /
>> 
>>
>> Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to make
>> sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
>>
>> The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following the
>> detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
>>
>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
>>
>> They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some ???
>> file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
>>
>> The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password. If I
>> had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root* and
>> made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up front
>> before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
>>
>> I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
>> printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
>> perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab to
>> that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on the
>> screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than it
>> should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
>> something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3 Install,
>> this ain't bad.
>>
>> Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to wring
>> it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone.
>>
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-21 Thread Michael Barnes
Good to know. What would be really great is to find a similar printer that
would run from 12VDC. I'd like to set up a completely portable fly-away
package that ran from 12VDC to utilize battery/vehicle/solar power.

Michael


On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Dave  wrote:

> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html
>
> Here's a follow-up report:
>
> /I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It claims
> //
> //to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB. For $29
> it's //
> //worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition to a //
> //stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
> /
> 
>
> Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to make
> sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.
>
> The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following the
> detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:
>
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
>
> They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some ???
> file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)
>
> The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password. If I
> had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root* and
> made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up front
> before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.
>
> I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of
> printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't
> perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab to
> that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on the
> screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than it
> should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing
> something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3 Install,
> this ain't bad.
>
> Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to wring
> it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone.
>
>
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[PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-20 Thread Dave
http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/2017-August/087027.html

Here's a follow-up report:

/I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It claims //
//to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB. For $29 
it's //
//worth a try. If it works, it should be a perfect small addition to a //
//stand-alone RPi student learning station.//
/


Received the HP Deskjet 1112 and installed it first in Windows 7 to make 
sure it worked. Then installed it to a Raspberry Pi 3B.

The software installation went mostly smoothly, carefully following the 
detailed instructions and accepting the defaults found at:

http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html

They are close enough. (You do NOT have to worry about editing some ??? 
file mentioned. It's not on the RPi.)

The only glitch was the install requires a root/superuser password. If I 
had one it apparently didn't like it so I added *sudo passwd root* and 
made "*root*" the password. That worked. In the future I'll do up front 
before beginning the software install to get it out of the way.

I'm quite pleased with the results. For the price, it is a lot of 
printer; quick, and excellent quality. But the HP software isn't 
perfect. I can't get it to print the last page first despite a tab to 
that effect, and it doesn't print footers despite showing them on the 
screen. Since the printed text appears to be a little larger than it 
should that probably explains the missing footers. I may be doing 
something wrong, but again, for $29, and having an easy RPi3 Install, 
this ain't bad.

Will also be installing the 1112 to a Linux MINT machine just to wring 
it out some more and see what happens. Hope this helps someone.


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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-14 Thread Larry Brigman
I find that cups will support anything that supplies a ppd file.  On the
printers at work, we found the ppd file in the mac drivers package for the
canon printers.

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Dave  wrote:

> Thanks Tyrell for that valuable link. I will also take a closer look at
> HPLIP with regard to some other printers here.
>
> I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It claims
> to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB. For $29
> it's worth a try. :-$. If it works, it should be a perfect small
> addition to a stand-alone RPi student learning station.
>
> -Dave
>
>
> On 8/13/2017 8:47 PM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
> > It's been a while since I plugged in my HP printer... I have one of the
> > OfficeJet Pro L7680, stopped using it because I don't print frequently
> and
> > so Laser printers are better suited to my needs...  But when I was
> > researching the purchase, I referenced HPLIP, the HP Linux Imaging and
> > Printing project:
> > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html
> >
> > The HPLIP project is initiated and led by HP directly, and in my
> > experience, they are pretty good about keeping their lists up to date.
> >
> > I am not fluant in CUPS, and my understanding may be fundamentally
> > flawed...  But it is my understanding that CUPS only supports a short
> list
> > of printers directly, but provides a common API for drivers for other
> > printers to be written.  When it comes to HP printers, I believe the
> go-to
> > driver is HPLIP, and I believe HPLIP depends on CUPS.
> >
> > I suspect other printers are supported indirectly in a similar manner,
> and
> > thus they may not show up on the Pi CUPS list...  Even though they are
> > indeed supported, potentially out of the box...
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Dave  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Tom-
> >>
> >> Thanks for your thoughts.
> >>
> >> I have owned a LOT of printers over the years. Starting with an early
> >> Centronics in the '70s that sounded like washing machine and cost a
> >> fortune! Also had an Epson MX-80 before it was released to the public. .
> >> Then wrote the tutorial book that went in the box. 8-).
> >>
> >> Had a few really good printers over time, but a number of
> >> disappointments too. Too many have not worked well with Linux thus my
> >> caution here.
> >>
> >> For this little learning application I just want something that
> >> definitely works with the Pi. Am checking the Pi CUPS list here now
> >> against the offerings of WalMart, Office Depot, Costco etc and have not
> >> found even one that is on the list. Most CUPS listings are for obsolete
> >> printers it seems...
> >>
> >> -Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/12/2017 5:05 PM, Tom wrote:
> >>> I am great fan of HP printers and multifunction devices - because they
> >>> just work on Linux (with some rare exceptions).
> >>> My current one HP 8600, in the past: HP 3510, HP 1505N, .
> >>> Generally, it just prints and also scans with some minor love.
> >>> I have also owned Epson C88 (I think) - the printer worked just fine in
> >>> Linux - it wasted as much ink as the HP printers, but it would not work
> >>> with EU bought ink - which was major pain.
> >>> Just look up the printer in CUPS list before buying it - it is trivial
> >>> to carry the list in the smart-phone avoiding two trips to store.
> >>> If fact, I would not hesitate returning the printer if it would not
> >>> work with Linux - it is their problem to solve if they do not bother to
> >>> write a statement for Linux users on the box.
> >>> I do not expect much from a printer these days 50-100 pages a year -
> >>> hence my bias - some years are 3x depending on moves/relocation
> >>> WARNING: Customary rant about printers
> >>> I hope that I am not starting something bigger by expressing my
> >>> opinion:
> >>>- there is not such thing as cheap inkjet printer these days due to
> >>> ink cost coupled with regular head cleaning cycles.
> >>>- I do not print a lot - there have been couple instances that I
> have
> >>> printed about 20-30 pages per 4x cartridge set due to time passage and
> >>> regular cleaning cycles.
> >>>- My wife prints a lot (work related) and went trough $150 ink per
> >>> month in her cheap ~$60 HP printer. We got expensive, enterprise
> >>> printer with low per page cost to fix that.
> >>>- Without calculating it - owning reliably functioning inkjet
> printer
> >>> can costs as much as $80 per year in ink printed or wasted.
> >>> Tomas
> >>> On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 14:19 -0700, Dave wrote:
>  I'm looking to buy a a small cheap inkjet printer to dedicate to a
>  Raspberry Pi. USB connect, no multipurpose, and actually has a driver
>  in
>  the CUPS list. Ideas appreciated.
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-13 Thread Dave
Thanks Tyrell for that valuable link. I will also take a closer look at 
HPLIP with regard to some other printers here.

I ordered an HP Deskjet 1112 from Amazon for this application. It claims 
to have full support for Linux Debian (RPi?) and Mint via USB. For $29 
it's worth a try. :-$. If it works, it should be a perfect small 
addition to a stand-alone RPi student learning station.

-Dave


On 8/13/2017 8:47 PM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
> It's been a while since I plugged in my HP printer... I have one of the
> OfficeJet Pro L7680, stopped using it because I don't print frequently and
> so Laser printers are better suited to my needs...  But when I was
> researching the purchase, I referenced HPLIP, the HP Linux Imaging and
> Printing project:
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html
>
> The HPLIP project is initiated and led by HP directly, and in my
> experience, they are pretty good about keeping their lists up to date.
>
> I am not fluant in CUPS, and my understanding may be fundamentally
> flawed...  But it is my understanding that CUPS only supports a short list
> of printers directly, but provides a common API for drivers for other
> printers to be written.  When it comes to HP printers, I believe the go-to
> driver is HPLIP, and I believe HPLIP depends on CUPS.
>
> I suspect other printers are supported indirectly in a similar manner, and
> thus they may not show up on the Pi CUPS list...  Even though they are
> indeed supported, potentially out of the box...
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Dave  wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom-
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>> I have owned a LOT of printers over the years. Starting with an early
>> Centronics in the '70s that sounded like washing machine and cost a
>> fortune! Also had an Epson MX-80 before it was released to the public. .
>> Then wrote the tutorial book that went in the box. 8-).
>>
>> Had a few really good printers over time, but a number of
>> disappointments too. Too many have not worked well with Linux thus my
>> caution here.
>>
>> For this little learning application I just want something that
>> definitely works with the Pi. Am checking the Pi CUPS list here now
>> against the offerings of WalMart, Office Depot, Costco etc and have not
>> found even one that is on the list. Most CUPS listings are for obsolete
>> printers it seems...
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/2017 5:05 PM, Tom wrote:
>>> I am great fan of HP printers and multifunction devices - because they
>>> just work on Linux (with some rare exceptions).
>>> My current one HP 8600, in the past: HP 3510, HP 1505N, .
>>> Generally, it just prints and also scans with some minor love.
>>> I have also owned Epson C88 (I think) - the printer worked just fine in
>>> Linux - it wasted as much ink as the HP printers, but it would not work
>>> with EU bought ink - which was major pain.
>>> Just look up the printer in CUPS list before buying it - it is trivial
>>> to carry the list in the smart-phone avoiding two trips to store.
>>> If fact, I would not hesitate returning the printer if it would not
>>> work with Linux - it is their problem to solve if they do not bother to
>>> write a statement for Linux users on the box.
>>> I do not expect much from a printer these days 50-100 pages a year -
>>> hence my bias - some years are 3x depending on moves/relocation
>>> WARNING: Customary rant about printers
>>> I hope that I am not starting something bigger by expressing my
>>> opinion:
>>>- there is not such thing as cheap inkjet printer these days due to
>>> ink cost coupled with regular head cleaning cycles.
>>>- I do not print a lot - there have been couple instances that I have
>>> printed about 20-30 pages per 4x cartridge set due to time passage and
>>> regular cleaning cycles.
>>>- My wife prints a lot (work related) and went trough $150 ink per
>>> month in her cheap ~$60 HP printer. We got expensive, enterprise
>>> printer with low per page cost to fix that.
>>>- Without calculating it - owning reliably functioning inkjet printer
>>> can costs as much as $80 per year in ink printed or wasted.
>>> Tomas
>>> On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 14:19 -0700, Dave wrote:
 I'm looking to buy a a small cheap inkjet printer to dedicate to a
 Raspberry Pi. USB connect, no multipurpose, and actually has a driver
 in
 the CUPS list. Ideas appreciated.

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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-13 Thread Tyrell Jentink
It's been a while since I plugged in my HP printer... I have one of the
OfficeJet Pro L7680, stopped using it because I don't print frequently and
so Laser printers are better suited to my needs...  But when I was
researching the purchase, I referenced HPLIP, the HP Linux Imaging and
Printing project:
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html

The HPLIP project is initiated and led by HP directly, and in my
experience, they are pretty good about keeping their lists up to date.

I am not fluant in CUPS, and my understanding may be fundamentally
flawed...  But it is my understanding that CUPS only supports a short list
of printers directly, but provides a common API for drivers for other
printers to be written.  When it comes to HP printers, I believe the go-to
driver is HPLIP, and I believe HPLIP depends on CUPS.

I suspect other printers are supported indirectly in a similar manner, and
thus they may not show up on the Pi CUPS list...  Even though they are
indeed supported, potentially out of the box...


On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Dave  wrote:

> Hi Tom-
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> I have owned a LOT of printers over the years. Starting with an early
> Centronics in the '70s that sounded like washing machine and cost a
> fortune! Also had an Epson MX-80 before it was released to the public. .
> Then wrote the tutorial book that went in the box. 8-).
>
> Had a few really good printers over time, but a number of
> disappointments too. Too many have not worked well with Linux thus my
> caution here.
>
> For this little learning application I just want something that
> definitely works with the Pi. Am checking the Pi CUPS list here now
> against the offerings of WalMart, Office Depot, Costco etc and have not
> found even one that is on the list. Most CUPS listings are for obsolete
> printers it seems...
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
> On 8/12/2017 5:05 PM, Tom wrote:
> > I am great fan of HP printers and multifunction devices - because they
> > just work on Linux (with some rare exceptions).
> > My current one HP 8600, in the past: HP 3510, HP 1505N, .
> > Generally, it just prints and also scans with some minor love.
> > I have also owned Epson C88 (I think) - the printer worked just fine in
> > Linux - it wasted as much ink as the HP printers, but it would not work
> > with EU bought ink - which was major pain.
> > Just look up the printer in CUPS list before buying it - it is trivial
> > to carry the list in the smart-phone avoiding two trips to store.
> > If fact, I would not hesitate returning the printer if it would not
> > work with Linux - it is their problem to solve if they do not bother to
> > write a statement for Linux users on the box.
> > I do not expect much from a printer these days 50-100 pages a year -
> > hence my bias - some years are 3x depending on moves/relocation
> > WARNING: Customary rant about printers
> > I hope that I am not starting something bigger by expressing my
> > opinion:
> >   - there is not such thing as cheap inkjet printer these days due to
> > ink cost coupled with regular head cleaning cycles.
> >   - I do not print a lot - there have been couple instances that I have
> > printed about 20-30 pages per 4x cartridge set due to time passage and
> > regular cleaning cycles.
> >   - My wife prints a lot (work related) and went trough $150 ink per
> > month in her cheap ~$60 HP printer. We got expensive, enterprise
> > printer with low per page cost to fix that.
> >   - Without calculating it - owning reliably functioning inkjet printer
> > can costs as much as $80 per year in ink printed or wasted.
> > Tomas
> > On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 14:19 -0700, Dave wrote:
> >> I'm looking to buy a a small cheap inkjet printer to dedicate to a
> >> Raspberry Pi. USB connect, no multipurpose, and actually has a driver
> >> in
> >> the CUPS list. Ideas appreciated.
> >>
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-12 Thread Dave
Hi Tom-

Thanks for your thoughts.

I have owned a LOT of printers over the years. Starting with an early 
Centronics in the '70s that sounded like washing machine and cost a 
fortune! Also had an Epson MX-80 before it was released to the public. . 
Then wrote the tutorial book that went in the box. 8-).

Had a few really good printers over time, but a number of 
disappointments too. Too many have not worked well with Linux thus my 
caution here.

For this little learning application I just want something that 
definitely works with the Pi. Am checking the Pi CUPS list here now 
against the offerings of WalMart, Office Depot, Costco etc and have not 
found even one that is on the list. Most CUPS listings are for obsolete 
printers it seems...

-Dave



On 8/12/2017 5:05 PM, Tom wrote:
> I am great fan of HP printers and multifunction devices - because they
> just work on Linux (with some rare exceptions).
> My current one HP 8600, in the past: HP 3510, HP 1505N, .
> Generally, it just prints and also scans with some minor love.
> I have also owned Epson C88 (I think) - the printer worked just fine in
> Linux - it wasted as much ink as the HP printers, but it would not work
> with EU bought ink - which was major pain.
> Just look up the printer in CUPS list before buying it - it is trivial
> to carry the list in the smart-phone avoiding two trips to store.
> If fact, I would not hesitate returning the printer if it would not
> work with Linux - it is their problem to solve if they do not bother to
> write a statement for Linux users on the box.
> I do not expect much from a printer these days 50-100 pages a year -
> hence my bias - some years are 3x depending on moves/relocation
> WARNING: Customary rant about printers
> I hope that I am not starting something bigger by expressing my
> opinion:
>   - there is not such thing as cheap inkjet printer these days due to
> ink cost coupled with regular head cleaning cycles.
>   - I do not print a lot - there have been couple instances that I have
> printed about 20-30 pages per 4x cartridge set due to time passage and
> regular cleaning cycles.
>   - My wife prints a lot (work related) and went trough $150 ink per
> month in her cheap ~$60 HP printer. We got expensive, enterprise
> printer with low per page cost to fix that.
>   - Without calculating it - owning reliably functioning inkjet printer
> can costs as much as $80 per year in ink printed or wasted.
> Tomas
> On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 14:19 -0700, Dave wrote:
>> I'm looking to buy a a small cheap inkjet printer to dedicate to a
>> Raspberry Pi. USB connect, no multipurpose, and actually has a driver
>> in
>> the CUPS list. Ideas appreciated.
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-12 Thread Tom
I am great fan of HP printers and multifunction devices - because they
just work on Linux (with some rare exceptions).
My current one HP 8600, in the past: HP 3510, HP 1505N, .
Generally, it just prints and also scans with some minor love.
I have also owned Epson C88 (I think) - the printer worked just fine in
Linux - it wasted as much ink as the HP printers, but it would not work
with EU bought ink - which was major pain.
Just look up the printer in CUPS list before buying it - it is trivial
to carry the list in the smart-phone avoiding two trips to store.
If fact, I would not hesitate returning the printer if it would not
work with Linux - it is their problem to solve if they do not bother to
write a statement for Linux users on the box.
I do not expect much from a printer these days 50-100 pages a year -
hence my bias - some years are 3x depending on moves/relocation
WARNING: Customary rant about printers
I hope that I am not starting something bigger by expressing my
opinion:
 - there is not such thing as cheap inkjet printer these days due to
ink cost coupled with regular head cleaning cycles.
 - I do not print a lot - there have been couple instances that I have
printed about 20-30 pages per 4x cartridge set due to time passage and
regular cleaning cycles.
 - My wife prints a lot (work related) and went trough $150 ink per
month in her cheap ~$60 HP printer. We got expensive, enterprise
printer with low per page cost to fix that.
 - Without calculating it - owning reliably functioning inkjet printer
can costs as much as $80 per year in ink printed or wasted.
Tomas
On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 14:19 -0700, Dave wrote:
> I'm looking to buy a a small cheap inkjet printer to dedicate to a 
> Raspberry Pi. USB connect, no multipurpose, and actually has a driver
> in 
> the CUPS list. Ideas appreciated.
> 
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-12 Thread Dave
That sounds about my speed for this application, Michael. I assume it is 
specifically listed in the CUPS drivers?  -Dave


On 8/12/2017 2:52 PM, Michael Barnes wrote:
> I bought a little HP printer at Wal-Mart for <$50. Has both USB and 
> wireless. Also scans. Printed from RPI via wireless just fine. I'll 
> look up model later when I get a chance.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2017 14:22, "Dave"  > wrote:
>
> I'm looking to buy a a small cheap inkjet printer to dedicate to a
> Raspberry Pi. USB connect, no multipurpose, and actually has a
> driver in
> the CUPS list. Ideas appreciated.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-12 Thread Michael Barnes
I bought a little HP printer at Wal-Mart for <$50. Has both USB and
wireless. Also scans. Printed from RPI via wireless just fine. I'll look up
model later when I get a chance.

Michael


On Aug 12, 2017 14:22, "Dave"  wrote:

> I'm looking to buy a a small cheap inkjet printer to dedicate to a
> Raspberry Pi. USB connect, no multipurpose, and actually has a driver in
> the CUPS list. Ideas appreciated.
>
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[PLUG] Cheap printer for Raspberry Pi idea

2017-08-12 Thread Dave
I'm looking to buy a a small cheap inkjet printer to dedicate to a 
Raspberry Pi. USB connect, no multipurpose, and actually has a driver in 
the CUPS list. Ideas appreciated.

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