Re: [PLUG] Fonts not visible to upgraded LibreOffice-5.4.0 [RESOLVED]

2017-08-04 Thread John Jason Jordan 
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 19:35:34 -0700
King Beowulf  dijo:

>On 08/04/2017 07:02 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 18:14:03 -0700
>> King Beowulf  dijo:
>> 
>>> Slightly OT, but when I am stuck having to use a Windows box
>>> somewhere, I carry a FAT32 USB thumb drive with portable versions
>>> of F/OSS apps and utilities:
>>> https://portableapps.com/
>>> Reputable site that has been around for a long time.  Good stuff.
>> 
>> It sounds very useful. Can you get these apps to run on a computer in
>> the library or a classroom at PSU? 
>
>They will run on any MS Windows box that doesn't have the USB port
>locked.  All the app data ad files stay on the USB drive and so nothing
>ever touches the hard drive.

I am sure you are right that nothing touches the hard drive. But when I
run a program that is installed on a PSU computer I can save the files
I create in my student H drive. The USB ports are not locked in the
sense that I can open a file from a USB drive in one of the programs
installed on the computer. But I doubt that PSU allows other
not-installed-by-PSU programs to write to even the student's H drive.
In fact, I would imagine that running programs from a USB drive is
summarily blocked. How PSU can do that is beyond my ken, but I bet that
somehow they do. I leave it to those more familiar with security on
such systems to explain further or to point out why I am wrong. 

I am not attending PSU at this time or I would do an experiment myself.
However, I know there are others here who might oblige. 
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Re: [PLUG] Fonts not visible to upgraded LibreOffice-5.4.0 [RESOLVED]

2017-08-04 Thread King Beowulf 
On 08/04/2017 07:02 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 18:14:03 -0700
> King Beowulf  dijo:
> 
>> Slightly OT, but when I am stuck having to use a Windows box somewhere,
>> I carry a FAT32 USB thumb drive with portable versions of F/OSS apps
>> and utilities:
>> https://portableapps.com/
>> Reputable site that has been around for a long time.  Good stuff.
> 
> It sounds very useful. Can you get these apps to run on a computer in
> the library or a classroom at PSU? 

They will run on any MS Windows box that doesn't have the USB port
locked.  All the app data ad files stay on the USB drive and so nothing
ever touches the hard drive.

-Ed


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Re: [PLUG] Fonts not visible to upgraded LibreOffice-5.4.0 [RESOLVED]

2017-08-04 Thread John Jason Jordan 
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 18:14:03 -0700
King Beowulf  dijo:

>Slightly OT, but when I am stuck having to use a Windows box somewhere,
>I carry a FAT32 USB thumb drive with portable versions of F/OSS apps
>and utilities:
>https://portableapps.com/
>Reputable site that has been around for a long time.  Good stuff.

It sounds very useful. Can you get these apps to run on a computer in
the library or a classroom at PSU? 
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Re: [PLUG] Fonts not visible to upgraded LibreOffice-5.4.0 [RESOLVED]

2017-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> Someone in the room said 'just double-click on the .odt file.' I did so at
> it opened flawlessly in Word. My point is that instead of sending a
> Windows / MS Office user a .doc or .docx file, just send them the native
> .odt file with a note that it can be opened in Word.

John,

   That's really good to know. Thanks. I can picture confused users who'd
have difficulty following those instructions. :-)

   Wonder if this works with the latest versions of Word, includig the Saas
'cloud' version. Guess I'll find out. And, just for the heck of it I'll see
if Calligra now exports to .doc or .docx.

Carpe weekend,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Fonts not visible to upgraded LibreOffice-5.4.0 [RESOLVED]

2017-08-04 Thread King Beowulf 
On 08/04/2017 05:51 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:28:57 -0700 (PDT)
> Rich Shepard  dijo:
> 
>> I think I've found a solution: KDE's office suite called 'calligra.' It,
>> too, has more than I'd ever use and has a cluttered display (at least
>> in the 'Sheet' tool), but it uses the .ods/.odt format so I assume it
>> will import/export M$ Office documents, too. And, it's part of the
>> Slackware distribution, too.
>>
>>   And, ... (pay attention, John) it recognizes all installed fonts!!
>>
>>   So, I'll get used to running calligra and remove LO.
> 
> My understanding is that Calligra can read MS Office documents but not
> write to them.
> 

LO has the benefit of being able to r/w MS Word docs directly, both
older .doc and newer .docx.  docx is MS version of ODF (open document
format).  Newer MS Word can read ODF natively.

> On the other hand a few years ago I was at PSU and needed to open an
> .odt document that I had on a thumb drive. Unfortunately, PSU stopped
> putting OO/LO on their computers some time ago, so I assumed that I was
> stuck. 

Slightly OT, but when I am stuck having to use a Windows box somewhere,
I carry a FAT32 USB thumb drive with portable versions of F/OSS apps and
utilities:
https://portableapps.com/
Reputable site that has been around for a long time.  Good stuff.
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Re: [PLUG] Fonts not visible to upgraded LibreOffice-5.4.0 [RESOLVED]

2017-08-04 Thread John Jason Jordan 
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:28:57 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>I think I've found a solution: KDE's office suite called 'calligra.' It,
>too, has more than I'd ever use and has a cluttered display (at least
>in the 'Sheet' tool), but it uses the .ods/.odt format so I assume it
>will import/export M$ Office documents, too. And, it's part of the
>Slackware distribution, too.
>
>   And, ... (pay attention, John) it recognizes all installed fonts!!
>
>   So, I'll get used to running calligra and remove LO.

My understanding is that Calligra can read MS Office documents but not
write to them.

On the other hand a few years ago I was at PSU and needed to open an
.odt document that I had on a thumb drive. Unfortunately, PSU stopped
putting OO/LO on their computers some time ago, so I assumed that I was
stuck. Someone in the room said 'just double-click on the .odt file.' I
did so at it opened flawlessly in Word. My point is that instead of
sending a Windows / MS Office user a .doc or .docx file, just send them
the native .odt file with a note that it can be opened in Word.
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Re: [PLUG] Fonts not visible to upgraded LibreOffice-5.4.0 [RESOLVED]

2017-08-04 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

>   My only uses of LO are Writer to import Wurd documents and save them as
> .odt documents (occasionally to translate the other way when I must provide
> a processed word document to a Windows user), and Calc for spreadsheets. I
> don't use any of the other stuff.

   I think I've found a solution: KDE's office suite called 'calligra.' It,
too, has more than I'd ever use and has a cluttered display (at least in the
'Sheet' tool), but it uses the .ods/.odt format so I assume it will
import/export M$ Office documents, too. And, it's part of the Slackware
distribution, too.

   And, ... (pay attention, John) it recognizes all installed fonts!!

   So, I'll get used to running calligra and remove LO.

   Now back to the real world.

Carpe weekend, everyone,

Rich
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