Re: [PLUG] Audio in?

2023-04-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Here's my solution to that: https://www.ebay.com/itm/274405540451 https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-usb-20-external-stereo-sound-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-usbsound Ted -Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of Dick Steffens Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 3:36 PM To: PLUG List

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
My mother is a piano teacher and during covid had to give lessons over zoom. Zoom deliberately degrades audio quality to save bandwidth. There is discussion on this here: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360046244692-Configuring-professional-audio-settings-for-Zoom-Meetings Note that

Re: [PLUG] the dreaded hang

2023-04-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
X and friends have insisted on actuating the screensaver for a long time now and they use dpmi I have found this does lock up some hardware. Not just on Linux I've had Windows lock up various laptop hardware as well attempting to "save the LCD screen from burn in" (I wasn't aware LCD screens

[PLUG] the dreaded hang

2023-04-16 Thread briand
Hi, So i just finished putting together a new PC AMD K7/Asus MB. if i leave it alone for some indeterminate amount time, on the order of 1 to 2 hours, it decides to lock up - sort of. The caps lock key is still working, for example, but the monitor doesn't see a signal. A few things that i've

Re: [PLUG] Audio in?

2023-04-16 Thread wes
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 6:18 PM Dick Steffens wrote: > On 4/16/23 16:05, Dick Steffens wrote: > > > > First I tried the jack on the front that is not the headphone jack. I > > think it's a mic in jack, but don't know for sure. > > Then I tried the red ring jack on the back. I've switched to the

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
"I could not hear them using the headphones and the speakers produces very unclear (garbled?)output." Does your PC have an onboard speaker that you can test with? Are the speakers and headset both plugged into the PCI-E soundcard? Have you tried plugging into the onboard audio ports directly

Re: [PLUG] Audio in?

2023-04-16 Thread Dick Steffens
On 4/16/23 16:05, Dick Steffens wrote: First I tried the jack on the front that is not the headphone jack. I think it's a mic in jack, but don't know for sure. Then I tried the red ring jack on the back. I've switched to the blue ring jack. Still no results in Audacity. In Audacity I have

Re: [PLUG] Audio in?

2023-04-16 Thread Dick Steffens
On 4/16/23 15:50, Rich Shepard wrote: On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Dick Steffens wrote: I have an old boom box and some audio tapes. I'm trying to run the headphone out of the boom box into the computer. I've tried the mic input on the front, and the back of my desktop, but none of my recording

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Ben Koenig
--- Original Message --- On Sunday, April 16th, 2023 at 3:39 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Ben Koenig wrote: > > > Ah ok so here is where we got real problems. First off, you don't want to > > use pip. it makes it very difficult to remove packages later and can > >

Re: [PLUG] Audio in?

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Dick Steffens wrote: I have an old boom box and some audio tapes. I'm trying to run the headphone out of the boom box into the computer. I've tried the mic input on the front, and the back of my desktop, but none of my recording software finds the sound. I'm using Audacity.

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, MC_Sequoia wrote: So, to be clear, do you only have a problem with inbound voice audio quality from the Internet? Mike, Yes. Have you monitored resource, cpu/memory, usage when you're experiencing this problem? I've watched gkrellm. Maybe even shutdown and power

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Ben Koenig wrote: Ah ok so here is where we got real problems. First off, you don't want to use pip. it makes it very difficult to remove packages later and can result in a broken python installation. Ben, I've used pip when I could not find an SBo package. You can try

[PLUG] Audio in?

2023-04-16 Thread Dick Steffens
I have an old boom box and some audio tapes. I'm trying to run the headphone out of the boom box into the computer. I've tried the mic input on the front, and the back of my desktop, but none of my recording software finds the sound. I'm using Audacity. I also tried Audio Recorder with the

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Michael Barnes
As a broadcast engineer who has dealt with computerized automation systems providing professional audio for FM radio stations, pretty much all I have used over the years for on-air play have been Audioscience cards. Not cheap, but they do the job. Linux friendly. Available with various

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
"I don't often view news site or youtube videos but it's the same issue with them as it is was the Zoom meeting. The other issue with Zoom is that heard unclear sound throught the Creative Pebble speakers that were installed, and no sound through the Panasonic headset. Yet, the headset had no

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Ben Koenig
--- Original Message --- On Sunday, April 16th, 2023 at 1:35 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Ben Koenig wrote: > > > "meson build" didn't work? > > > No: > $ meson build > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/meson", line 6, in > > from pkg_resources

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, MC_Sequoia wrote: "My issue is getting good sound quality from the 'Net using Zoom and Jitsi." This is probably the best & most useful piece of information you've to work with. That seems to point away from a audio card, audio software/drivers, cables, etc. I don't

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output => Internet apps voice quality

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
"My issue is getting good sound quality from the 'Net using Zoom and Jitsi." This is probably the best & most useful piece of information you've to work with. That seems to point away from a audio card, audio software/drivers, cables, etc. I don't use either of these apps, so I could only

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Ben Koenig wrote: "meson build" didn't work? No: $ meson build Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/meson", line 6, in from pkg_resources import load_entry_point ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'pkg_resources' Now I'm trying to learn why I can't

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread King Beowulf
On 4/16/23 11:22, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Ben Koenig wrote: > >> $ meson build >> That is 'meson' then a SPACE then 'build'. They didn't tell you to run >> meson.build, so why are you executing the file manually? Did you just >> assume that they made a mistake? > Ben, > > Well,

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread King Beowulf
On 4/16/23 06:42, Rich Shepard wrote: > The audio voice output quality from my Asus Prime X470-Pro is distorted and > unacceptable. I finally figured out that this is the issue with online > meetings and news/youtube videos, not the speakers (although I just replaced > the Creative Pebbles with

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Ben Koenig
--- Original Message --- On Sunday, April 16th, 2023 at 11:22 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Ben Koenig wrote: > > > $ meson build > > That is 'meson' then a SPACE then 'build'. They didn't tell you to run > > meson.build, so why are you executing the file manually?

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Russell Senior
Can you collect an example? Like, record through the air (e.g. with a digital audio recorder maybe even in your phone) a few seconds of the distortion you are hearing and share it somewhere? Does it sound any different through headphones? Fwiw, I have zero problems with voice output on my linux

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, MC_Sequoia wrote: I also was thinking about an audio quality testing application that might be useful and came across this video on an app called Noise Torch. In the video he talks specifically about producing podcasts, zoom calls & jitsi meetings.

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
I also was thinking about an audio quality testing application that might be useful and came across this video on an app called Noise Torch. In the video he talks specifically about producing podcasts, zoom calls & jitsi meetings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzN9rYNeeIU I also came across

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Ben Koenig wrote: $ meson build That is 'meson' then a SPACE then 'build'. They didn't tell you to run meson.build, so why are you executing the file manually? Did you just assume that they made a mistake? Ben, Well, I assumed that 'mason.build' was the file name, not

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, MC_Sequoia wrote: Hopefully, someone who knows a lot more about pc audio soundcards and who produces podcasts and/or videos will respond but in the meantime here's what I can offer. "#4) ASUS XONAR SE 5.1 Channel Best for minimal audio distortion. Interesting. The

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread MC_Sequoia
"The audio voice output quality from my Asus Prime X470-Pro is distorted and unacceptable. Please provide recommendations for an add-in PCIe audio card that outputs clear voice as well as music to speakers and headphones/headsets." Hopefully, someone who knows a lot more about pc audio

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Ben Koenig
--- Original Message --- On Sunday, April 16th, 2023 at 10:36 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Ben Koenig wrote: > > > > I'm stuck at the first command: > > > $ mason.build > > > -bash: mason.build: command not found > > > Run the command provided in their README. > > $

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Ben Koenig wrote: I'm stuck at the first command: $ mason.build -bash: mason.build: command not found Run the command provided in their README. $ meson build Ben, Isn't that what I did with bash telling me the command's not found? Now, combining the first two lines

Re: [PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Ben Koenig
--- Original Message --- On Sunday, April 16th, 2023 at 10:11 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > To build LAD's improved fork of pulseaudio-equalizer I built the two > dependencies not present on my system: ladswa and fftw. Now I have all > needed dependencies: > ## Dependencies > > * Meson ≥

[PLUG] Building pulseaudio-equalizer

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
To build LAD's improved fork of pulseaudio-equalizer I built the two dependencies not present on my system: ladswa and fftw. Now I have all needed dependencies: ## Dependencies * [Meson](https://mesonbuild.com/) ≥ 0.46 & [Ninja](https://ninja-build.org/) * [GTK+](https://www.gtk.org/) 3 *

Re: [PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023, Rich Shepard wrote: Please provide recommendations for an add-in PCIe audio card that outputs clear voice as well as music to speakers and headphones/headsets. I decided to purchase a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX card. I'll find out if it improves voice clarity in the

[PLUG] Audio card for clear voice output

2023-04-16 Thread Rich Shepard
The audio voice output quality from my Asus Prime X470-Pro is distorted and unacceptable. I finally figured out that this is the issue with online meetings and news/youtube videos, not the speakers (although I just replaced the Creative Pebbles with ProSonus studio monitors). Searching the web