Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

Not hearing anyone else step into the breach, my video stream is going to be showing live (i think about 5 seconds of delay) the irc.geekshed.net #pdxlinux IRC channel this evening. So, dust off your favorite IRC client and head on over for PLUG social hour and Portland Linux/Unix Hangout Session

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

Hello all, On 5/5/20 12:54 AM, Russell Senior wrote: Fwiw, I have a twitch stream going... Is someone taking charge on Thursday? I can post an announcement and maybe even attend, though I will be away for most of the day. Michael ___ PLUG mailing

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

Fwiw, I have a twitch stream going: https://www.twitch.tv/rssenior It shows a live(ish) stream of my homebrew tele-terminal logged into an IRC channel, currently irc.freenode.net #pdxtech, but we could do irc.geekshed.net #pdxlinux on Thursday ;-) On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 1:42 PM Russell

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Sun, 3 May 2020, Michael Dexter wrote: So no, I don't want PLUG to rely too heavily on proprietary and closed tools and ecosystems. FWIW, ermane to this thread's origin, video conference calls, I was notified this morning that the GRASS GIS developers (and anyone else who wants to

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On 4/30/20 5:14 PM, Mike C. wrote: "It is probably not the best idea to require iPhone purchase or FB/MS account as a condition of attendance." Excellent point! One that I didn't consider either? Funny story: Okay, maybe "funny" isn't the right word: Apple has made iOS central to their

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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote: Would you like to outline the features/issues that you evaluated that got you to that decision? John, I'm new to online conferencing and video use so I have no experience base to use in evaluating services. My needs are now unknown as I'm in the

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"It is probably not the best idea to require iPhone purchase or FB/MS account as a condition of attendance." Excellent point! One that I didn't consider either? Ideally,, I could participate via my XMPP client of choice or something similar. I way that because think XMPP is pretty old and there

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Would you like to outline the features/issues that you evaluated that got you to that decision? On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 4:50 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Thu, 30 Apr 2020, Mike C. wrote: > > > Personally, I wouldn't participate in any online group activity that > > didn't consider personal

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020, Mike C. wrote: Personally, I wouldn't participate in any online group activity that didn't consider personal privacy, security and/or anonymity as one of the top criteria in considering which application to use. That alone would probably cut the list in half. Then I'd

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

+- 1 for things like FB/whatApp, weechat, FaceTime, etc. They maybe great for families/friends bought to each particular ecosystem/walledGarden. It is probably not the best idea to require iPhone purchase or FB/MS account as a condition of attendance. Tomas On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 15:48 Mike C.

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> > Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a > spreadsheet of different video / remote tools. > > So far people have mentioned: > > Zoom > Kast > Crowdcast > Slack > Google Hangouts > Google duo > MS Teams > discord > Wechat > Whatsapp > Facebook/facetime > Kakao > Line >

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020, Mike C. wrote: Yes. This is a real challenge not just with OBS but most software. Mike, Yet 'most' software is probably more easily understood by most of us. :-) The hard work IMHO is trying to figure out exactly what features and functionality one truly needs in an

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"I'm learning OBS and while it will certainly record as well as stream it provides capabilities well beyond my needs." Yes. This is a real challenge not just with OBS but most software. The hard work IMHO is trying to figure out exactly what features and functionality one truly needs in an app

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote: I would love to see a tutorial walk-though / Discussion about OBS, how it works and an example of how to make a quick 2-3 minute video with bumpers from a zoom recording. Is there anyone on the list who is practiced with this type thing? John, In

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:21 PM Mike C. wrote: > > I suggest looking into OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) which is open source > and free and installs on all Linux distros, BSD, Windows and MAC. Then just > post the video to Google Drive, Vimeo, YouTube, etc. > > OBS might not be the ideal tool

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

It is useful, as we move from live meetings to online meetings, to evaluate which parts of the process can be managed synchronously and which can be asynchronous. When we are discussing, asking questions and building personal relationships, those aspects tend to lean toward synchronous. When we

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Mike C. wrote: I don't understand why anyone wo go through all the trouble of trying to figure out which webinar app to use if they'\re not conducting a live seminar over the internet. This makes no sense to me. Mike, I totally agree which is why I'm no longer seeking a

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

"So, I've decided to produce instructional videos but make them available as webinars-on-demand." I don't understand why anyone wo go through all the trouble of trying to figure out which webinar app to use if they'\re not conducting a live seminar over the internet. This makes no sense to me. I

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Rich Shepard wrote: I would like your help by expanding this video conferencing thread to include webinar hosts. Further thinking has led me in a different direction. Live webinars require attendees to be available at a specific date and time and many of my clients and

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote: Yes, I know about freeconference call. Since I am focused on largish groups, it does not pop to my mind as a group video tool. Put it on the list. John, et al.: I would like your help by expanding this video conferencing thread to include webinar

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I've heard Jitsi Meet works well for large groups. I've used Signal with medium sized groups. I'd like to hear how Signal works with larger groups, as it is the main tool I use to communicate with folks. On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:50 PM Tomas Kuchta wrote: > You have pretty nice spreadsheet -

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You have pretty nice spreadsheet - I used Google Hangouts - it works great as well as Jitsi - works well using chrome and on Android. I do not know what is Discord or what is IRC. And I do not have any teletypes - just a good collection of Linux laptops, desktops and servers. Will I be able to

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As for criteria, I would mostly be looking for deficiencies rather than efficiencies. Does it break down after the 10th participant joins? 20th? I don't think we have the manpower available to test at the 100 user level, but the more the better. "Breaking down" would consist of the video or audio

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote: Yes, I know about freeconference call. Since I am focused on largish groups, it does not pop to my mind as a group video tool. John, Their web site says they support 1,000 participants per call. Rich ___

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

I was surprised at how much discord felt like IRC, with a more modern interface... On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 1:42 PM Russell Senior wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:07 AM Michael Dexter > wrote: > > > On 4/27/20 10:28 PM, wes wrote: > > > I would be interested in seeing this concept get put

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:07 AM Michael Dexter wrote: > On 4/27/20 10:28 PM, wes wrote: > > I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we > > consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so we > > can get a better sense of their capabilities? > >

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

Yes, I know about freeconference call. Since I am focused on largish groups, it does not pop to my mind as a group video tool. Put it on the list. On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:10 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote: > > > Just yesterday I was in a conversation

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On 4/28/20 12:10 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote: Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a spreadsheet of different video / remote tools. So far people have mentioned: John, Have you looked at freeconferencecall.com?

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, John Sechrest wrote: Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a spreadsheet of different video / remote tools. So far people have mentioned: John, Have you looked at freeconferencecall.com? I created

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

Since the list of tools is so large, it might be worth trying them on a larger time scale. Run a series of talks, each one focusing on a select number of tools. Someone just needs to manage the list and send out a notification in advance of the talk to inform participants which tools they should

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

As a possible event, you could do a "speed dating" networking event with meetaway and have people mingle. Or to mirror the Lab experience, you could do zoom with breakout rooms. We do that weekly now with the 601club. These would be just social gathering more than topic oriented. Both are easy

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

Just yesterday I was in a conversation about tools and I started a spreadsheet of different video / remote tools. So far people have mentioned: Zoom Kast Crowdcast Slack Google Hangouts Google duo MS Teams discord Wechat Whatsapp Facebook/facetime Kakao Line Youtube live Meetaway It would be

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

On 4/27/20 10:28 PM, wes wrote: I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so we can get a better sense of their capabilities? Sounds like we have two volunteers! Let me know how I can help.

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I would be interested in seeing this concept get put to work. Could we consider load-testing various alternative video conferencing tools so we can get a better sense of their capabilities? -wes On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:07 PM John Sechrest wrote: > I have been organizing Open Coffee meetings

Re: [PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

I have been organizing Open Coffee meetings with zoom. It works reasonably well. I have not been able to replace it with other tools yet. We just this weekend ran a startup weekend remote. The core tool for that was discord. If you want a text + video experience, that can work. It helps to have

[PLUG] What to do First Thursday?

Hello all, PLUG to me is a monthly meeting. The Clinics are great but are not a way for me to participate in. Would someone like to organize an online activity during the First Thursday time slot? I will drop in as I can as I do have a list of candidate speakers if a rhythm is established.