Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Nat Taylor wrote: I have had good luck with used laptops. You have to assume that you're gonna buy a new battery, and maybe a hard drive. Run a bunch of tests on it, and use the keyboard and trackpad a bunch before you buy it in person, or get a trial period. They are cheap

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, TomasK wrote: Lenovo Thinkpad T14 and X13s are supported on linux - you can even get some of them with linux preinstalled. Tomas, I install Slackware on all hosts. I don't recall if my old Dell came with an empty hard drive or had some OS installed. First thing I did was

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Patrick O'Connor wrote: Thinkpad t480I got a used one this year. Thanks, Patrick. Rich

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Richard England
https://community.frame.work/t/ubuntu-21-04-on-the-framework-laptop/2722 ~~R StGeorge On 2/25/22 09:13, Randy Bush wrote: i am tempted by the FrameWork, but anything other than ubuntu might take work randy

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Nat Taylor
I have had good luck with used laptops. You have to assume that you're gonna buy a new battery, and maybe a hard drive. Run a bunch of tests on it, and use the keyboard and trackpad a bunch before you buy it in person, or get a trial period. They are cheap enough on ebay you could fix a lot.

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 20:30:13 -0500 TomasK dijo: >I cannot recommend Dells shipping with Linux right now - they ended up >being devoid of even basic number of USB ports recently. If you do not >need more than 1 or 2 USB-C ports (one taken by the charger) - and can >receive Fed-Ex delivery (I

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread TomasK
Lenovo Thinkpad T14 and X13s are supported on linux - you can even get some of them with linux preinstalled. I usually aim for newest supported HW to extend useful live - so, the last time I ended up paying MS tax, but I still get bios updates via fwupdmgr and everything working without issues.

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Ben Koenig wrote: For the ntpd issue you might want to check and see if you are getting an iP address. The error message you posted on LQ almost looks like the network isn't coming up in time which is not unusual when you select the rc.inet1 scripts to configure your

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, David Bridges wrote: If you do decide to take a look at used equipment and you don't mind buying out of state I think that https://discountelectronics.com/ is a nice place to buy equipment from.   Thanks, David. That's good to know. Regards, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Robert Citek wrote: Hope that's helpful. And let us know how things go for you. Robert, It's why I'm working to get the Dell working reliably once again. It satisfies all my needs with the 8G memory and 500G SSD. Thanks, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Bill Barry wrote: This could be some type of network issue. Maybe the rc.ntpd script is expecting the network to be up but that now happens later in the bootup and so it just hangs waiting for something that is not there. Did you write the rc.ntpd script or is it part of

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread David Bridges
/Unix Group Subject: Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 12:26:07 -0800 My 2¢. Look at the FreeGeek ebay store. They have recycled laptops for cheap, already running Linux. On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:32 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > > I think it's time to replace my Dell Latitude

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Bill Barry
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:08 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Bill Barry wrote: > > > So this is on a totally clean install of the newest version of Slackware? > > That's a major bug. Seems like someone else would have noticed this. Is > > there a slightly newer version where this

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Russell Senior wrote: My 2¢. Look at the FreeGeek ebay store. They have recycled laptops for cheap, already running Linux. Thanks, Russell. I forgot that the online store is still working. Regards, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Russell Senior
My 2¢. Look at the FreeGeek ebay store. They have recycled laptops for cheap, already running Linux. On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:32 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > > I think it's time to replace my Dell Latitude E5410 since it's giving me > fits installing Slackware64-15.0. It's run Slackware since about

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Robert Citek
Wow! This is a highly personal question that really depends on your use cases. But for a point of comparison, my use cases tend to be bimodal. That is, my compute needs are either very light ( email, browsing, text editing ) or very heavy ( analysis of scores of TB ) with very little in between.

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Bill Barry wrote: So this is on a totally clean install of the newest version of Slackware? That's a major bug. Seems like someone else would have noticed this. Is there a slightly newer version where this might be fixed? Bill, I think the boot process for the 5.15.19

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Bill Barry
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:36 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Bill Barry wrote: > > > What kind of major issues installing slackware? I would think the best > > laptop is the one you have. I don't think they have not improved > > dramatically over the last few years in any

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Bill Barry wrote: What kind of major issues installing slackware? I would think the best laptop is the one you have. I don't think they have not improved dramatically over the last few years in any dimension that will matter to you. You don't need a high end gaming graphics

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Nat Taylor wrote: I just bought an ASUS TUF for the graphics card, but my X220 is still going strong and the battery (that I bough maybe 5 years ago) is still going strong, so if I replace that laptop, I’ll go for another used Thinkpad. The ASUS ultrabooks also looked like

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Nat Taylor wrote: How about an X1 Carbon or an XPS 13? Nat, Amazon wants about $1600 for the X1 Carbon and about $1300 for the XPS 13. The DIY FrameWork costs about $1050 for 16G RAM and 1T storage. Plus my assembly time, of course. Thanks, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Bill Barry
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 10:32 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > > I think it's time to replace my Dell Latitude E5410 since it's giving me > fits installing Slackware64-15.0. It's run Slackware since about 2010, > upgraded as new releases became available, but now it has major issues with > the new

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Randy Bush wrote: i am tempted by the FrameWork, but anything other than ubuntu might take work Randy, While the cost is higher than I'd like I think it should more than pay for the difference by its ability to be upgraded and have components replaced if necessary. Since

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Nat Taylor
I just bought an ASUS TUF for the graphics card, but my X220 is still going strong and the battery (that I bough maybe 5 years ago) is still going strong, so if I replace that laptop, I’ll go for another used Thinkpad. The ASUS ultrabooks also looked like a good choice potentially. On Fri, Feb

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Nat Taylor
How about an X1 Carbon or an XPS 13? On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 9:31 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Randy Bush wrote: > > >> What company makes a laptop named FrameWork? > > > > https://frame.work/ :) > > Randy, > > Of course. :-) > > Above my budget (for the DIY) but looks really

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Randy Bush wrote: What company makes a laptop named FrameWork? https://frame.work/ :) Randy, Of course. :-) Above my budget (for the DIY) but looks really good. Thanks, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Randy Bush
> What company makes a laptop named FrameWork? https://frame.work/ :) randy

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, Randy Bush wrote: i am tempted by the FrameWork, but anything other than ubuntu might take work Randy, What company makes a laptop named FrameWork? Rich

Re: [PLUG] Replacement laptop

2022-02-25 Thread Randy Bush
i am tempted by the FrameWork, but anything other than ubuntu might take work randy