Re: [PLUG] PLUG rsync root-owned files

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Re: [PLUG] PLUG Kernel changes external hard drive designation

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Re: [PLUG] Kernel changes external hard drive designation [FIXED]

2019-10-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 20 Oct 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: Wow. ok. Mounting a drive isn't supposed to change the device node. You can mount/unmount drives all day long and as along as you don't add additional devices it should stay the same. My guess is that something is lingering around in the driver stack. If

Re: [PLUG] rsync root-owned files

2019-10-21 Thread Tomas Kuchta
If you have your source and target on single host: sudo rsync . Should definitely work, because in that situation, it does not use ssh for transport. Tomas On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 13:20 Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2019, Galen Seitz wrote: > > > Rather than using rsync, why not this:

Re: [PLUG] Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: Got this fixed! I wrote too quickly. It's still flipping from the initial /dev/sdc1 to /dev/sdd1 as it sat there mounted and I responded to your message. Any thoughts on where I should now look? It must be related to the fstab entry:

Re: [PLUG] Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread Tomas Kuchta
In one of the weekend posts you learned how to obtain disk and partition uuid - is there any technical reason to not use uuid to mount your external drive? Uuids definitely do not change unless you change it intentionally. I do not want to sound weary, but this topic repeats on this list

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Kernel changes external hard drive designation

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Re: [PLUG] Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread Ben Koenig
On 10/21/19 6:20 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: Got this fixed! I wrote too quickly. It's still flipping from the initial /dev/sdc1 to /dev/sdd1 as it sat there mounted and I responded to your message. Any thoughts on where I should now look? It must be

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread Mary
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Re: [PLUG] PLUG Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread Mary
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[PLUG] Challenges in the Troubleshooting Process

2019-10-21 Thread Ben Koenig
Hopefully it lets me change the subject to start a new conversation. You bring up some interesting points but it's very off topic. On 10/21/19 6:34 AM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: In one of the weekend posts you learned how to obtain disk and partition uuid - is there any technical reason to not use

Re: [PLUG] Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: Your fstab config is fine. Nothing in the mount process should trigger changes in the device node. At this point you need to physically disconnect the drive and reboot the computer. Ben, Here's what /var/log/messages shows (this is the most recent of

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread May
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Re: [PLUG] Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread tomas . kuchta . lists
I regret my misunderstanding - My assumption was - if you use "partition uuid" to mount the partition - you do not need to care about /dev/sd* because your drive is reliably mounted to the mount point. Naturally - using partition uuid to mount something - implies that you remove any other

Re: [PLUG] Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread Ben Koenig
On 10/21/19 8:10 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Tomas Kuchta wrote: In one of the weekend posts you learned how to obtain disk and partition uuid - is there any technical reason to not use uuid to mount your external drive? No. That's why I use it. I'm trying to say this

Re: [PLUG] Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread Ben Koenig
On 10/21/19 8:54 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: Your fstab config is fine. Nothing in the mount process should trigger changes in the device node. At this point you need to physically disconnect the drive and reboot the computer. Ben, Here's what

Re: [PLUG] Kernel changes external hard drive designation

2019-10-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: The device node (sdc or sdd) only changes when devices are removed and attached by the kernel. Intermittent connections caused by a failing cable, port, or host controller can result in the some really weird stuff happening. If I was physically present for

Re: [PLUG] Challenges in the Troubleshooting Process

2019-10-21 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:45:20 -0700 Ben Koenig dijo: >There is a sequence of steps used to troubleshoot a given issue. >Sometimes when running through these steps, you may appear to have >"fixed" the problem, when all you did was poke it to do what you >wanted. A good example is one of the Ubuntu

Re: [PLUG] Challenges in the Troubleshooting Process

2019-10-21 Thread wes
/media is managed by the GUI. the GUI reads the volume name when it's connected, and mounts it on /media/[username]/[volume name]. If there is already something there, you will end up with a second filesystem mounted on the same mount point. It's not a problem until it is. -wes On Mon, Oct

Re: [PLUG] Challenges in the Troubleshooting Process

2019-10-21 Thread Tomas Kuchta
The thing about /dev/sd[a-z][0-9] and older ata /dev/hd[a-z][0-9] as well as NVMe and USB device names is that they are controller, port and/or plug-in order dependent. If you have bunch of drives connected to any of these interfaces at boot time. They are enumerated by controller/port/partition

Re: [PLUG] Challenges in the Troubleshooting Process

2019-10-21 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Good point with the labels John, there are other ways to skin the cat. You can give timeout option on your mount line to avoid excessive boot times when your drive is not attached. Something longer than it takes to wake up your drives. On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 21:02 John Jason Jordan wrote: > On

Re: [PLUG] Challenges in the Troubleshooting Process

2019-10-21 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 16:34:48 -0700 wes dijo: >/media is managed by the GUI. the GUI reads the volume name when it's >connected, and mounts it on /media/[username]/[volume name]. If there >is already something there, you will end up with a second filesystem >mounted on the same mount point. A

Re: [PLUG] Challenges in the Troubleshooting Process

2019-10-21 Thread Ben Koenig
One of the problems you were having were these ephemeral mount folders in /media. It was causing a lot of general confusion by duplicating your mountpoints. You should really consider moving your lines in fstab from /media to /mnt. This would clear up issues with things not working as expected.