Re: [PLUG] Lan loops - follow on PoE injecto

2019-12-26 Thread Russell Senior
According to https://openwrt.org/toh/gl.inet/gl-ar750s The switch chip on his router looks like this: port 0: CPU port 1: WAN port 2: LAN1 port 3: LAN2 The usual way OpenWrt VLANs these would be: VLAN 1: 0t 2 3 VLAN 2: 0t 1 And eth0.2 would be the WAN interface, and eth0.1 would be part of

Re: [PLUG] Lan loops - follow on PoE injecto

2019-12-26 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Thanks for the ideas Russell - this is definitely fun - I will try that when I am back from a sub-trip (trip in a trip) on 2nd January. On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 01:13 Russell Senior wrote: > For reference, this is what the full-blown output of "swconfig dev switch0 > show" from the MT7621 looks

Re: [PLUG] gnome2-like behavior from gnome3?

2019-12-26 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:54:25 -0800 Keith Lofstrom wrote: ... > However, I vaguely recall being told that gnome3 can be > configured to behave very much like gnome2. > > Is this true? WHERE CAN I LEARN MORE ... On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 02:29:35PM -0800, Tom wrote: Tom>

[PLUG] font rendering Re: gnome2-like behavior ...

2019-12-26 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:54:25 -0800 Keith Lofstrom wrote: > I plan to use gnome2-emulating Mate with newer distros > (specifically, from Scientific Linux 6 to S.L.7, then to > CentOS 8 someday). > > However, I vaguely recall being told that gnome3 can be > configured to behave very much like

Re: [PLUG] gnome2-like behavior from gnome3?

2019-12-26 Thread Ben Koenig
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 3:35 PM Tomas Kuchta wrote: > I am no particular fan of default Gnome 3, any gnome for that matter, but > calling it completely broken seems to me as pretty strong statement. > > Personal bias in taste is fine, we all like different clothes, drinks, > food, etc. Calling

Re: [PLUG] Lan loops - follow on PoE injecto

2019-12-26 Thread Russell Senior
For reference, this is what the full-blown output of "swconfig dev switch0 show" from the MT7621 looks like: http://sprunge.us/YPQwYE On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 4:07 PM Russell Senior wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 3:54 PM Russell Senior > wrote: > >> Ooh, try this: shell in and run:

Re: [PLUG] Lan loops - follow on PoE injecto

2019-12-26 Thread Russell Senior
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 3:54 PM Russell Senior wrote: > Ooh, try this: shell in and run: swconfig dev switch0 show | grep port > > Connect your loop and run it again. > > Then, seeing which port link state changed, you'll know what switch ports > are LAN1 and LAN2. Piping to less instead of grep

Re: [PLUG] Lan loops - follow on PoE injecto

2019-12-26 Thread Russell Senior
Ooh, try this: shell in and run: swconfig dev switch0 show | grep port Connect your loop and run it again. Then, seeing which port link state changed, you'll know what switch ports are LAN1 and LAN2. Piping to less instead of grep should give you a bunch of port stats. Ping an address in the

Re: [PLUG] Lan loops - follow on PoE injecto

2019-12-26 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Qualcomm QCA9563 SOC in GL-AR750S package. On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 00:12 Mike C. wrote: > I have a theory about why it didn't work on your device. Its what I > expected would happen and why I didn't suggest what Russell did to just > loop one LAN port to another. I think its due to the

Re: [PLUG] gnome2-like behavior from gnome3?

2019-12-26 Thread Tomas Kuchta
I am no particular fan of default Gnome 3, any gnome for that matter, but calling it completely broken seems to me as pretty strong statement. Personal bias in taste is fine, we all like different clothes, drinks, food, etc. Calling some other choice absolutely broken and mixing GUI with init

Re: [PLUG] Lan loops - follow on PoE injecto

2019-12-26 Thread Mike C.
I have a theory about why it didn't work on your device. Its what I expected would happen and why I didn't suggest what Russell did to just loop one LAN port to another. I think its due to the architecture. What make and model is your switch/router? On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 2:24 PM wrote: > It

Re: [PLUG] Lan loops - follow on PoE injecto

2019-12-26 Thread Mike C.
Yes. That one. On Wed, Dec 25, 2019, 9:50 PM Russell Senior wrote: > > The embedded image of the Asus WL 500G wireless router that I tried to > >> share but was rejected shows the 4 LAN ports hardwired together as a > >> multi-port bridge all in VLAN 0. > >> > > > This one? > >

Re: [PLUG] Lan loops - follow on PoE injecto

2019-12-26 Thread tomas . kuchta . lists
It seems that in my case - looping LAN1 with LAN2 and sending/receiving WAN<-->WLAN3 traffic leads to no visible traffic degradation. That probably mean that I failed to create lan loop. The lights were "kind of" busy on LAN1 <--> LAN2, but the wlan3 and upstream WAN are slow enough to observe

Re: [PLUG] asking advice on secure texting application

2019-12-26 Thread Mike C.
> > Over the past week the NY Times reported on their investigation of > how extensive and comprehensive is the tracking of individuals by their > mobile phones. As part of the series they tracked a whole small town for a > time then told the residents what they did and what they found. Thanks

Re: [PLUG] asking advice on secure texting application

2019-12-26 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019, Mike C. wrote: Indeed. Which means that in practice you're only as secure as the app your family, friend and co-workers use. And then when you bring up how they should use encryption, you're instantly the "security conspiracy tin foil hat wearing person who has a Faraday

Re: [PLUG] asking advice on secure texting application

2019-12-26 Thread Mike C.
> > It seems to be a law of nature, immutable by mutual desire, that > every community you might want to interact with will choose a different > messaging app. > Indeed. Which means that in practice you're only as secure as the app your family, friend and co-workers use. And then when you bring