Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character [CLOSED]

2018-12-07 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 7 Dec 2018, Rich Shepard wrote:


Perhaps calibre works better for the occassional quickie that does not
benefit from typesetting with TeX.


  Oops! Apparently that's for e-book management, not writing.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character [CLOSED]

2018-12-07 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 7 Dec 2018, John Jason Jordan wrote:


If you've exhausted all the easy possibilities then it's time to go the
macro route. Just create a macro to do what you want and then assign
Ctrl-d to the macro.


  I use LO only infrequently. Now I'me incentivized to avoid it. Perhaps
calibre works better for the occassional quickie that does not benefit from
typesetting with TeX.

Thanks for the thought,

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character [CLOSED]

2018-12-07 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 08:39:04 -0800 (PST)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>Rather amazing that there is apparently no way to mimic the Del key action
>using ctrl-d. Oh, well.

If you've exhausted all the easy possibilities then it's time to go the
macro route. Just create a macro to do what you want and then assign
Ctrl-d to the macro.
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Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character [CLOSED]

2018-12-07 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, Rich Shepard wrote:


Is there a way to assign the same function as the Del key to Ctrl-d?


  Apparently not. I asked this question on the LO mail list and that
generated two responses. One listed all the delete- options with
no mention of just delete next character. The second implied that I'm a
dummy for not using ctrl-x which the writer reminded me dates back to
WordStar days. Of course, ctrl-x cuts highlighted text and does not delete
the un-highlighted next character to the right.

  Rather amazing that there is apparently no way to mimic the Del key action
using ctrl-d. Oh, well.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character

2018-12-06 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, John Jason Jordan wrote:


To save I use Ctrl-s. Ctrl-Shift-s is Save As. Those seem to be pretty
standard in all programs.


  Yep.


This bit of confusion was caused by a LO documentation error - it should
have listed Ctrl-d, not Ctrl-D. And looking at the assignment
possibilities, I see that Ctrl-Shift-D is defined as Right-to-Left, not
Right-Align. Ctrl-Delete is Delete to End of Word, and Ctrl-Shift-Delete
is Delete to End of Line. This is typical; Ctrl+[some key] does one thing,
while Ctrl-Shift+[some key] does the same thing but going a little
further, e.g., Ctrl-v is Paste and Ctrl-Shift-v is Paste Special.


  And, if you look again you'll see there's no 'delete next character' which
is what most editors (and other applications) assign to ctrl-d.

Regards,

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character

2018-12-06 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 11:34:29 -0800 (PST)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
>> I have LO 5.1.6.2 on Xubuntu 16.04, and it lists Ctrl-D, but not
>> Ctrl-d, defining it as double underline.  

>Official LO docs show the default for ctrl-D as double underline. As I
>wrote, here there is no definition for Ctrl-D or Ctrl-d. The keyboard
>shortdut lists has all uppercase letters. When you save a document to
>you use Ctrl-Shift-S or just ctrl-s?

To save I use Ctrl-s. Ctrl-Shift-s is Save As. Those seem to be pretty
standard in all programs.

It just dawned on me that to do Ctrl-D I had to hold down the Shift key
at the same time as the Ctrl key, and that is, indeed, defined as a
separate keypress in the list of options for keyboard assignments. This
bit of confusion was caused by a LO documentation error - it should
have listed Ctrl-d, not Ctrl-D. And looking at the assignment
possibilities, I see that Ctrl-Shift-D is defined as Right-to-Left, not
Right-Align. Ctrl-Delete is Delete to End of Word, and
Ctrl-Shift-Delete is Delete to End of Line. This is typical; Ctrl+[some
key] does one thing, while Ctrl-Shift+[some key] does the same thing
but going a little further, e.g., Ctrl-v is Paste and Ctrl-Shift-v is
Paste Special.
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Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character

2018-12-06 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, John Jason Jordan wrote:


I have LO 5.1.6.2 on Xubuntu 16.04, and it lists Ctrl-D, but not
Ctrl-d, defining it as double underline.


John,

  Doesn't matter if it is shown with an uppercase D or a lowercase d; press
and hold the ctrl key while pressing the d/D key. No shift key involved.


Actually, it does not list any of the lowercase letters with Ctrl, only
the uppercase letters. I selected a word, then used Ctrl-d, and it gave
the word double underlining, even though the d was lowercase. Then I tried
Ctrl-D and it right-aligned the whole line, the same as Ctrl-r. This is
very strange. Fortunately, I rarely use either function, and if I do I use
the mouse on the Formatting toolbar, so I'm not highly motivated to sleuth
out the cause. Still, I am curiositized as to why Ctrl-D is defined as one
thing but does another.


  Official LO docs show the default for ctrl-D as double underline. As I
wrote, here there is no definition for Ctrl-D or Ctrl-d. The keyboard
shortdut lists has all uppercase letters. When you save a document to you
use Ctrl-Shift-S or just ctrl-s?

  Those of us who use writing tools such as emacs, vim, joe, and LaTeX are
used to the emacs key shortcuts which use ctrl-d to delete the character
immediately right of the cursor (called the 'point' in emacs). Not being
able to assign that function to ctrl-d in LO Writer is frustrating. (As is
LO moving lines to the left margin when I have indented them two spaces.)

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character

2018-12-06 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:32:19 -0800 (PST)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>   In my installation it's undefined. Pressing it does nothing. In the
>keyboard shortcut assignment list there is no definition for it and
>the many choices of actions do not include that of the Del key.

I have LO 5.1.6.2 on Xubuntu 16.04, and it lists Ctrl-D, but not
Ctrl-d, defining it as double underline. Actually, it does not list any
of the lowercase letters with Ctrl, only the uppercase letters. I
selected a word, then used Ctrl-d, and it gave the word double
underlining, even though the d was lowercase. Then I tried Ctrl-D and
it right-aligned the whole line, the same as Ctrl-r. This is very
strange. Fortunately, I rarely use either function, and if I do I
use the mouse on the Formatting toolbar, so I'm not highly motivated
to sleuth out the cause. Still, I am curiositized as to why Ctrl-D is
defined as one thing but does another.
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Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character

2018-12-06 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, Tomas K wrote:


Ctrl-d is EOF - I'd be careful here.


Tomas,

  In my installation it's undefined. Pressing it does nothing. In the
keyboard shortcut assignment list there is no definition for it and the many
choices of actions do not include that of the Del key.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character

2018-12-06 Thread Tomas K
Ctrl-d is EOF - I'd be careful here.

On Thu, 2018-12-06 at 09:29 -0800, Rich Shepard wrote:
>    In LibreOffice-6.1.2, Tools -> Configure -> Keyboard allows user-
> assigned
> actions to Ctrl-D for deleting everything but a single character. Is
> there a
> way to assign the same function as the Del key to Ctrl-d?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Rich
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[PLUG] LibreOffice Writer: delete character

2018-12-06 Thread Rich Shepard

  In LibreOffice-6.1.2, Tools -> Configure -> Keyboard allows user-assigned
actions to Ctrl-D for deleting everything but a single character. Is there a
way to assign the same function as the Del key to Ctrl-d?

TIA,

Rich
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