Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread Lisa Kachold
Well if it's that hard to maintain a non-profit how does the San Diego LUG, and the Portland and Seattle LUGS manage? How does Heatsync labs do it? It is EASY! Why would we, who can read any HOWTO and do any technical thing, think we would need either a CPU or a lawyer? On Tue, Aug 19, 2014

Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread JD Austin
I'm a lurker on Plug so my vote counts for nothing.. but here is my 2 cents worth. Non profit status means that companies can help this group by providing server space, hosting, and other items and receive a tax write off for doing so. While setting one up does take some knowledge I know of

Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread techlists
On 2014-08-19 12:10, Lisa Kachold wrote: Well if it's that hard to maintain a non-profit how does the San Diego LUG, and the Portland and Seattle LUGS manage?  How does Heatsync labs do it?  It is EASY!   I cannot answer that. We are a different group and maybe what is important to those

Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread Ed
The need to be a non-profit, and not being one, has bit us in the ass in the past. this should be done now as there is no pressing need - when the need occurs is not when you want to be starting this. There are some initial costs (fees) just becoming a state recognized organization, getting a

Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread techlists
I've watched this country become divided over the past 4 or 5 years. Now I see it in the PLUG. I think I need to start attending the meetings. We are not going to agree on everything. Debate is good. I'd like to hear Han's thoughts on not running HTTPS everywhere. And I'd like to hear

Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread techlists
Your having people sign a waiver when the enter the installfest? I missed this comment that is embedded below : But I really DO NOT appreciate when the ones that don't pull the weight are trying to tell the ones who pull the wait what to do!! Back to lurking mode On 2014-08-19 14:08,

Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
There are ongoing costs to being a non-profit. You do have to file taxes every year. I believe in the past that was not so if you were not having a certain amount of funds running through your accounts. Additionally, the board, or officers, are responsible for the accuracy of those taxes and

Re: Installfest matters - I like it just as it is ;)

2014-08-19 Thread joe
Plug is a wonderful group just the way it is, and the installfests are great. Please don't change a thing. It serves no useful purpose to criticize the way the current plug and installfests work. If some folks think a lug could be done differently and/or perhaps better as a non-profit (or in

rmq TEDx talk

2014-08-19 Thread der.hans
moin moin, rms talked at TEDxGeneva2014 in April. https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/20140407-geneva-tedx-talk-free-software-free-society Note the option to download the video :). ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # A t-shirt a day keeps the

Re: Installfest matters - I like it just as it is ;)

2014-08-19 Thread Ed
+1 I like it too - I think it can work either way as Sys Admins, I think we can all appreciate how hard it is to get organized - and the many ways to do. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:04 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Plug is a wonderful group just the way it is, and the installfests are great.

Re: Installfest matters - I like it just as it is ;)

2014-08-19 Thread Kaoru Wilbur
Plug is great for those that like PLUG! I would never discourage current members from attending. Others are seeking another option and will find it: outside PLUG. On Tuesday, August 19, 2014, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: +1 I like it too - I think it can work either way as Sys Admins, I think we

Re: Installfest matters - I like it just as it is ;)

2014-08-19 Thread Kaoru Wilbur
Also, dialog with Plug about numerous installfest issues are already tabled and pursuing forward for those not aware! On Tuesday, August 19, 2014, Kaoru Wilbur m.kaoru.wil...@gmail.com wrote: Plug is great for those that like PLUG! I would never discourage current members from attending.

MEETING: Free Software Stammtisch Tonigh (8/19)

2014-08-19 Thread PLUG Announcements
Did you just click on this message hoping that you could possibly get an idea of what that funny Stammtisch word meant? Well... Wikipedia describes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stammtisch a Stammtisch as: A*Stammtisch*(German: regulars table) is an informal group meeting held on a regular

Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread Walter Mack
This is true, because I was not aware that there is a meeting. On 08/19/2014 02:51 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: Ironically, he who wrote this was not in the installfest meeting Sunday... :) On Tuesday, August 19, 2014, techli...@phpcoderusa.com mailto:techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:

Re: Installfest matters - I like it just as it is ;)

2014-08-19 Thread Michael Havens
Isn't AZLOCO a non-profit? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Kaoru Wilbur m.kaoru.wil...@gmail.com wrote: Also, dialog with Plug about numerous installfest issues are already tabled and pursuing forward for those not aware! On Tuesday, August 19, 2014, Kaoru Wilbur

Re: Installfest matters - I like it just as it is ;)

2014-08-19 Thread Kaoru Wilbur
Not sure but that is a separate group from LUG. While Ubuntu or Canonical people might attend LUG meetings and be members of both groups, the LUG is really not usually affiliated with LoCo. I know it is a little confusing because the Phoenix group has let the LoCo be a part of most, if not all,

Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread Mark Phillips
Just to add my two cents to the non-profit discussion. I set up a 501c3 corporation over 10 years ago for my daughters' club softball teams. I was the head coach and president of the corporation. I had a lawyer help with the application as probono workI downloaded the application from the IRS,

Phoenix Unix Professionals Group

2014-08-19 Thread trent shipley
I see no reason to incorporate PLUG. However, good arguments were put forward for a non-profit Linux Users Group, especially for more professional Linux users. Given the arguments Lisa put forward I'd say it makes sense to widen to scope to Unix. It would also make sense to narrow the scope from

Re: Installfest matters

2014-08-19 Thread Kaoru Wilbur
Great info Mark. I am sure the new Maricopa Pinal GNU Linux users group will find this useful as they complete their charter. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Just to add my two cents to the non-profit discussion. I set up a 501c3 corporation