re: How to rsync to a chromebook with linux?

2019-11-29 Thread James Crawford

rsync options [from] [to]

If you are running it on the chromebook then the from will be your desktop
rsynce -avH --progress 192.168.0.??:/home/joe/bin /home/upquick/bin

or from the chromebook
cd /home/upquick/bin
scp -r joe@192.168.0.??:bin .

Since its the first time then there won't be much savings by using rsync.

James C.

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Just purchased the ASUS c423 Chromebook (it is fantastic)
and I was delighted to discover that I could just click on
an icon on the "shelf" (panel) and Linux was quickly
installed automatically (within only a couple minutes).

So, I am really enjoying the discovery process to see
what all I can do now with Linux on this Chromebook
running*simultaneously*  with the chrome os.

However, I have not yet been able to find the magic syntax
to rsync files from my current Linux system to this new
Chromebook.  When I tap on the Linux icon on the shelf
the Chromebook opens to a black screen with this prompt:

# upquick@penguin:  and I found the IP address is 192.168.0.22
so I created a subdirectory titled 'bin' in: home/upquick/
and tried the following in order to try to copy all of my
hundreds of 'bin' shell script utilities to the chromebook:

rsync -avH --progress/home/joe/bin/  upquick@192.168.0.22:/home/upquick/bin/

Regrettably, this  did not work, so what do I need to do to
get it to work?

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How to rsync to a chromebook with linux?

2019-11-28 Thread Joe Lowder
Just purchased the ASUS c423 Chromebook (it is fantastic)
and I was delighted to discover that I could just click on
an icon on the "shelf" (panel) and Linux was quickly
installed automatically (within only a couple minutes).

So, I am really enjoying the discovery process to see
what all I can do now with Linux on this Chromebook
running *simultaneously* with the chrome os.

However, I have not yet been able to find the magic syntax
to rsync files from my current Linux system to this new
Chromebook.  When I tap on the Linux icon on the shelf
the Chromebook opens to a black screen with this prompt:

# upquick@penguin:  and I found the IP address is 192.168.0.22
so I created a subdirectory titled 'bin' in: home/upquick/
and tried the following in order to try to copy all of my
hundreds of 'bin' shell script utilities to the chromebook:

rsync -avH --progress /home/joe/bin/ upquick@192.168.0.22:/home/upquick/bin/

Regrettably, this  did not work, so what do I need to do to
get it to work?


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Re: Google drive chromebook

2018-09-10 Thread Stephen Partington
And a large number of chromebooks also have access to run android apps via
the google play store.

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 5:00 PM Carl Parrish 
wrote:

> I have a Google Pixel Book 2. While I do still carry my MBP around with me
> I find I increasingly don't need it. The cloud 9 IDE (
> https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/?p=tile) is pretty good. If you work with
> VS Code https://stackblitz.com/ is very close to being all you need. I
> prefer Webstorm myself and now can run the Linux version natively on my
> pixelbook before I could with Cruton -
> https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-Ubuntu-Chromebook-crouton%20 -
> but as long as I have an internet connection and can access AWS or ssh into
> my servers there is nothing stopping me from getting real work done from my
> Chromebook. I have 64 gb of hard drive space I think if I was going to do
> it again I would upgrade to the 128 GB (now that I can run docker on my
> Chromebook a bit of hard drive space is nice) but with 3 TB of cloud space
> (I think that came with 3 years through Google) I'm not hurting with it as
> a laptop at all.
>
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:23 AM Kevin Fries  wrote:
>
>> Always remember that a Chromebook is ment to be a connected device.  I
>> use mine all the time.  But while it can replace my desktop 70%-80% of the
>> time, there are times as a Linux professional where I need a laptop.  So, I
>> still have my Arch laptop (for software development because it has better
>> tools than online and a bigger screen).  So I try to only store locally
>> what I MUST.  Passwords are stored via LastPass so they move between
>> Chromebook and Desktop.  Files are stored on Google Drive or Dropbox for
>> the same reason.
>>
>> There is a local download on your Chromebook, but I would really try not
>> to use that for anything that is not ephemeral.  It is how the device was
>> designed to be used.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
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>> On Sep 8, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for
>>> it (yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is
>>> that saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification
>>>
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Re: Google drive chromebook

2018-09-09 Thread Carl Parrish
I have a Google Pixel Book 2. While I do still carry my MBP around with me
I find I increasingly don't need it. The cloud 9 IDE (
https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/?p=tile) is pretty good. If you work with VS
Code https://stackblitz.com/ is very close to being all you need. I prefer
Webstorm myself and now can run the Linux version natively on my
pixelbook before I could with Cruton -
https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-Ubuntu-Chromebook-crouton%20 -
but as long as I have an internet connection and can access AWS or ssh into
my servers there is nothing stopping me from getting real work done from my
Chromebook. I have 64 gb of hard drive space I think if I was going to do
it again I would upgrade to the 128 GB (now that I can run docker on my
Chromebook a bit of hard drive space is nice) but with 3 TB of cloud space
(I think that came with 3 years through Google) I'm not hurting with it as
a laptop at all.

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:23 AM Kevin Fries  wrote:

> Always remember that a Chromebook is ment to be a connected device.  I use
> mine all the time.  But while it can replace my desktop 70%-80% of the
> time, there are times as a Linux professional where I need a laptop.  So, I
> still have my Arch laptop (for software development because it has better
> tools than online and a bigger screen).  So I try to only store locally
> what I MUST.  Passwords are stored via LastPass so they move between
> Chromebook and Desktop.  Files are stored on Google Drive or Dropbox for
> the same reason.
>
> There is a local download on your Chromebook, but I would really try not
> to use that for anything that is not ephemeral.  It is how the device was
> designed to be used.
>
> Kevin
>
> Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=13569>
> On Sep 8, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Michael  wrote:
>
>> I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for
>> it (yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is
>> that saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification
>>
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Re: Google drive chromebook

2018-09-09 Thread Kevin Fries
Always remember that a Chromebook is ment to be a connected device.  I use mine 
all the time.  But while it can replace my desktop 70%-80% of the time, there 
are times as a Linux professional where I need a laptop.  So, I still have my 
Arch laptop (for software development because it has better tools than online 
and a bigger screen).  So I try to only store locally what I MUST.  Passwords 
are stored via LastPass so they move between Chromebook and Desktop.  Files are 
stored on Google Drive or Dropbox for the same reason.

There is a local download on your Chromebook, but I would really try not to use 
that for anything that is not ephemeral.  It is how the device was designed to 
be used.

Kevin

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On Sep 8, 2018, 9:00 AM, at 9:00 AM, Michael  wrote:
>I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for
>it
>(yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is
>that
>saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification
>
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Re: Google drive chromebook

2018-09-08 Thread techlists
How much SSD space do you have? 

On 2018-09-08 07:59, Michael wrote:

> I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for it 
> (yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is that 
> saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification
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Google drive chromebook

2018-09-08 Thread Michael
I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for it
(yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is that
saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification

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Re: OT: New Chromebook won't reach printer

2018-09-07 Thread Michael Butash
Odd thing, but if you replaced it, it probably got a new ip address that it
sees as something other than the original device.  Might check to delete
the old and add the new.

I went through this replacing my home dhcp server with another, and let
most general things reset.  Broke all my home automation stuff that that
rely upon things in one fashion or another.  Dumb IOT/chinese crapgadgets.

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Victor Odhner  wrote:

> My wife’s Chromebook died (broken charging port) so we got a new HP
> Chromebook. The old one worked perfectly with CUPS.
>
> Now our printer shows up in CUPS, but if I try to set up a print,
> Chromebook says it can’t connect.
>
> *Any theories about why this computer won’t connect?*
>
> Google’s Cloud Print worked for her Google account in Chrome on a macBook.
> That same instance shows on the Chromebook as “ready to print,” but is not
> offered in the print dialog.
>
> I added a Brother app on the Chromebook, but it couldn’t see anything.
>
> I’ve been through all this for hours, repeatedly. Rebooted the Chromebook,
> even reloaded the account.
>
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OT: New Chromebook won't reach printer

2018-09-06 Thread Victor Odhner
My wife’s Chromebook died (broken charging port) so we got a new HP Chromebook. 
The old one worked perfectly with CUPS.

Now our printer shows up in CUPS, but if I try to set up a print, Chromebook 
says it can’t connect.

Any theories about why this computer won’t connect?

Google’s Cloud Print worked for her Google account in Chrome on a macBook. That 
same instance shows on the Chromebook as “ready to print,” but is not offered 
in the print dialog.

I added a Brother app on the Chromebook, but it couldn’t see anything.

I’ve been through all this for hours, repeatedly. Rebooted the Chromebook, even 
reloaded the account.

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Re: ChromeBook Growing up

2018-05-09 Thread Stephen Partington
Andrew, you should look at http://codiad.com/

And The Chromebook became much more useful to me when android apps were
able to run on one. But still mostly just cute rather than genuinely
useful. However. this is a converged environment that could be a really
killer app.

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Andrew McRobb <andrewmcr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Great, I know there are web services that provide a sort of "IDE"
> experience for us devs when it comes to programming, but I don't trust
> those services 100%... So I really love the direction they are going. I
> know Dell kicked out some Linux based Laptops with small memory, but they
> are a joke from my experience. Like, they belong to a 10 year old. So
> getting a sort of meaty piece of machine with some real functionality
> sounds perfect.
>
> Andrew McRobb
> Full-time Software Developer
> Part-time Freelancer
> mcrobb.info
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Michael Butash <mich...@butash.net> wrote:
>
>> That is actually really cool to see/hear.  I've liked their hardware, but
>> a "web-based os" is pretty absurd to me as trying to do the job of an
>> engineer on an tablet or phone.  I could, but geez, why?  Growing up with
>> PC/Laptops, Chromebooks always struck me the drivel, but I've tried
>> everything for years to run android apps under linux as the final killer
>> app, and simply nothing works.  I could tolerate the stupid webapp thing in
>> the background if I can apt install nmap, wireshark, libreoffice, and other
>> tools I use under linux on a chromebook, I think...
>>
>> -mb
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding
>>> apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications.
>>>
>>> This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me.
>>>
>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks-
>>> get-new-app-muscle-with-built-in-linux/
>>>
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Re: ChromeBook Growing up

2018-05-09 Thread Andrew McRobb
Great, I know there are web services that provide a sort of "IDE"
experience for us devs when it comes to programming, but I don't trust
those services 100%... So I really love the direction they are going. I
know Dell kicked out some Linux based Laptops with small memory, but they
are a joke from my experience. Like, they belong to a 10 year old. So
getting a sort of meaty piece of machine with some real functionality
sounds perfect.

Andrew McRobb
Full-time Software Developer
Part-time Freelancer
mcrobb.info

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Michael Butash <mich...@butash.net> wrote:

> That is actually really cool to see/hear.  I've liked their hardware, but
> a "web-based os" is pretty absurd to me as trying to do the job of an
> engineer on an tablet or phone.  I could, but geez, why?  Growing up with
> PC/Laptops, Chromebooks always struck me the drivel, but I've tried
> everything for years to run android apps under linux as the final killer
> app, and simply nothing works.  I could tolerate the stupid webapp thing in
> the background if I can apt install nmap, wireshark, libreoffice, and other
> tools I use under linux on a chromebook, I think...
>
> -mb
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding
>> apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications.
>>
>> This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me.
>>
>> https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks-
>> get-new-app-muscle-with-built-in-linux/
>>
>> --
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>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>
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Re: ChromeBook Growing up

2018-05-09 Thread Michael Butash
That is actually really cool to see/hear.  I've liked their hardware, but a
"web-based os" is pretty absurd to me as trying to do the job of an
engineer on an tablet or phone.  I could, but geez, why?  Growing up with
PC/Laptops, Chromebooks always struck me the drivel, but I've tried
everything for years to run android apps under linux as the final killer
app, and simply nothing works.  I could tolerate the stupid webapp thing in
the background if I can apt install nmap, wireshark, libreoffice, and other
tools I use under linux on a chromebook, I think...

-mb

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding
> apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications.
>
> This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me.
>
> https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks-get-new-app-
> muscle-with-built-in-linux/
>
> --
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>
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Re: ChromeBook Growing up

2018-05-09 Thread Matthew Crews
2018 truly IS the Year of the Linux Desktop!

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On May 9, 2018, 11:02, Stephen Partington wrote:

> So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding 
> apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications.
>
> This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me.
>
> https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks-get-new-app-muscle-with-built-in-linux/
>
> --
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ChromeBook Growing up

2018-05-09 Thread Stephen Partington
So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding
apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications.

This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me.

https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks-get-new-app-muscle-with-built-in-linux/

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RE: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office

2018-01-29 Thread Carruth, Rusty
Or use that chroot-based thingy that lets you run an entire copy of Linux 
underneath the chrome os.  I forget what it’s called, sorry. Chrost? No, there 
you go – crouton.  It worked for me.  Switching between Linux and Chrome is a 
bit weird, but it works, I tried it myself.  (I probably just didn’t find the 
right majik incantation ;-)

Rusty

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​hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online.

Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines.​

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How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook?

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Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office

2018-01-27 Thread Stephen Partington
well if it is like most laptops the mouse is connected to the keyboard. so
if the keyboard goes then so does the mouse.

PS look up crouton. It is your path to Linux on the chromebook.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How do I install linux on it? I thought the hd made it useless for
> anything
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> because it is a browser machine is why I recommended it to my lady. I
>> sure wish my machine's hardware didn't decide to die. I think it strange
>> that both the mouse and keyboaed died at the same time.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> ​hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online.
>>>
>>> Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines.​
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook?
>>>>
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Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office

2018-01-27 Thread Todd Cole
might try booting it to a live distro to eliminate software issues if it
works 

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> How do I install linux on it? I thought the hd made it useless for
> anything
>
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>
>> because it is a browser machine is why I recommended it to my lady. I
>> sure wish my machine's hardware didn't decide to die. I think it strange
>> that both the mouse and keyboaed died at the same time.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> ​hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online.
>>>
>>> Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines.​
>>>
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Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office

2018-01-27 Thread Michael
How do I install linux on it? I thought the hd made it useless for anything

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> because it is a browser machine is why I recommended it to my lady. I sure
> wish my machine's hardware didn't decide to die. I think it strange that
> both the mouse and keyboaed died at the same time.
>
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> ​hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online.
>>
>> Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines.​
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook?
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Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office

2018-01-27 Thread Michael
because it is a browser machine is why I recommended it to my lady. I sure
wish my machine's hardware didn't decide to die. I think it strange that
both the mouse and keyboaed died at the same time.

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> ​hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online.
>
> Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines.​
>
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook?
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Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office

2018-01-27 Thread Stephen Partington
​hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online.

Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines.​

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I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office

2018-01-27 Thread Michael
How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook?

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Re: OT: Chromebook to Network Printer

2017-08-28 Thread Victor Odhner
Thanks, Stephen.

We went with Cloud Print, which finally worked. It was necessary to browse to 
the printer’s control page, which couldn’t be opened by a browser until the 
WIFI router was restarted, although Windows and MacBook could reach it to print.

I’ll also try the CUPS option since we have it installed. It previously 
couldn’t connect, but maybe the router bounce will do the trick.

Thanks,

Victor
__

On Aug 28, 2017, at 07:02:16, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

The chrome printing back-end is such that you can print to your printer from 
home. I think the CUPS implementation would be a preferred way to go unless you 
want to print from android and the like as well.


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Wow, this is crazy. I got a new network printer so my wife’s new chromebook 
could print, and it still turns out to be a major project to get this hooked 
up. It’s eaten my whole afternoon, with no success. The only official 
connection they support is via a server at Google, which is downright insane. 
(Fortunately my wife is not concerned with security.)

The printer is a Brother HL-3170cdw color laser printer. The PC is an acer 
chromebook.

My five-year-old macbook didn’t have any problem talking to the printer the Old 
Fashioned Way.

OK, so this is not totally Off Topic: we have Linux behind Chrome, right? 
ChromeOS even offers an option to enable CUPS.

I’ll keep poking at this from different angles, but if this Just Worked for 
someone, I’d appreciate a clue.

Thanks,

Victor

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OFF-Off-Topic: I now have a fully unemployed HP OfficeJet Pro K550. It’s served 
me well for about 10 years, and I’d like to see it go to a good home for an 
active retirement. It holds lots of paper, and prints pretty fast. The downside 
is that it’s got some miles on it and requires a USB connection.


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Re: OT: Chromebook to Network Printer

2017-08-28 Thread Stephen Partington
The chrome printing back-end is such that you can print to your printer
from home. I think the CUPS implementation would be a preferred way to go
unless you want to print from android and the like as well.


On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Victor Odhner <vodh...@cox.net> wrote:

> Wow, this is crazy. I got a new network printer so my wife’s new
> chromebook could print, and it still turns out to be a major project to get
> this hooked up. It’s eaten my whole afternoon, with no success. The only
> official connection they support is via a server at Google, which is
> downright insane. (Fortunately my wife is not concerned with security.)
>
> The printer is a Brother HL-3170cdw color laser printer. The PC is an acer
> chromebook.
>
> My five-year-old macbook didn’t have any problem talking to the printer
> the Old Fashioned Way.
>
> OK, so this is not totally Off Topic: we have Linux behind Chrome, right?
> ChromeOS even offers an option to enable CUPS.
>
> I’ll keep poking at this from different angles, but if this Just Worked
> for someone, I’d appreciate a clue.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Victor
>
> P.S. - Please reply privately to following if interested, since this is
> OFF-Off-Topic: I now have a fully unemployed HP OfficeJet Pro K550. It’s
> served me well for about 10 years, and I’d like to see it go to a good home
> for an active retirement. It holds lots of paper, and prints pretty fast.
> The downside is that it’s got some miles on it and requires a USB
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OT: Chromebook to Network Printer

2017-08-28 Thread Victor Odhner
Wow, this is crazy. I got a new network printer so my wife’s new chromebook 
could print, and it still turns out to be a major project to get this hooked 
up. It’s eaten my whole afternoon, with no success. The only official 
connection they support is via a server at Google, which is downright insane. 
(Fortunately my wife is not concerned with security.)

The printer is a Brother HL-3170cdw color laser printer. The PC is an acer 
chromebook.

My five-year-old macbook didn’t have any problem talking to the printer the Old 
Fashioned Way.

OK, so this is not totally Off Topic: we have Linux behind Chrome, right? 
ChromeOS even offers an option to enable CUPS.

I’ll keep poking at this from different angles, but if this Just Worked for 
someone, I’d appreciate a clue.

Thanks,

Victor

P.S. - Please reply privately to following if interested, since this is 
OFF-Off-Topic: I now have a fully unemployed HP OfficeJet Pro K550. It’s served 
me well for about 10 years, and I’d like to see it go to a good home for an 
active retirement. It holds lots of paper, and prints pretty fast. The downside 
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Re: Chromebook

2017-07-28 Thread Brien Dieterle
Yeah it's a client to help you upload and sync docs to your google drive:
https://www.google.com/drive/download/client/

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> drive client software?
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> The web interface lets you do multiple.  Or you can install the drive
>> client software
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2017 7:12 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Each one separately?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably just upload them all to Google drive
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is
>>>>> there an easy way to transfer her files into it?
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Re: Chromebook

2017-07-28 Thread Michael
drive client software?

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The web interface lets you do multiple.  Or you can install the drive
> client software
>
> On Jul 28, 2017 7:12 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Each one separately?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably just upload them all to Google drive
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is
>>>> there an easy way to transfer her files into it?
>>>> Her files consist of pdf's, microsoft word docs and zip files,
>>>> containing the same.
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Re: Chromebook

2017-07-28 Thread Brien Dieterle
The web interface lets you do multiple.  Or you can install the drive
client software

On Jul 28, 2017 7:12 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Each one separately?
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Probably just upload them all to Google drive
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is
>>> there an easy way to transfer her files into it?
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Re: Chromebook

2017-07-28 Thread Stephen Partington
The best way to set up a chrombook is to move your data into google drive.
this will then become available to the account from the chromebook.


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> Probably just upload them all to Google drive
>
> On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is
>> there an easy way to transfer her files into it?
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Re: Chromebook

2017-07-28 Thread Michael
Each one separately?


On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Probably just upload them all to Google drive
>
> On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is
>> there an easy way to transfer her files into it?
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Re: Chromebook

2017-07-28 Thread Brien Dieterle
Probably just upload them all to Google drive

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> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is there
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Chromebook

2017-07-28 Thread Michael
Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is there
an easy way to transfer her files into it?
Her files consist of pdf's, microsoft word docs and zip files, containing
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OT: Using Chromebook to edit docs offline ...

2015-07-09 Thread joe
 Keith wrote:
 Please post your experience so we can learn from it.

 Stephen wrote:
 I have been trying to wrap my head around a Chromebook
 experience with limited success. I would also be interested
 in hearing about your experience.

Still trying to figure out how to simplify this procedure,
but here are some first draft notes on my experience with
using Chromebook to access and edit documents offline:

http://upquick.com/temp/chromebook/



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OT: How to fix Chromebook display size?

2013-07-15 Thread joe
Why does a Xoom 10.1 screen tablet provide larger images of a webpage
than a Chromebook 11.6 screen shows of the exact same webpage -- as
shown in the snapshot at the link below of the two units sitting
side-by-side?

http://www.upquick.com/temp/xoom-chrome.jpg

And how can one fix the Chromebook to naturally display larger images
(without having to use CTRL++ several times)?



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Re: OT: How to fix Chromebook display size?

2013-07-15 Thread Dazed_75
First reflex reply is that the Chromebook has a higher resolution display
and does NOT assume you want a full screen representation so gives you a
window of the same or similar pixel dimensions as the Xoom thereby making
it appear physically smaller.

As to how you can change that behaviour, I have no idea, but you might look
over (or Google) Chrome Settings.


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

 Why does a Xoom 10.1 screen tablet provide larger images of a webpage
 than a Chromebook 11.6 screen shows of the exact same webpage -- as
 shown in the snapshot at the link below of the two units sitting
 side-by-side?

 http://www.upquick.com/temp/xoom-chrome.jpg

 And how can one fix the Chromebook to naturally display larger images
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Re: OT: How to fix Chromebook display size?

2013-07-15 Thread Joseph Sinclair
You would think that's the case, but the numbers don't support it:
The Chromebook in the image has a *lower* resolution (1366x768) than the xoom 
(1280x800).

In reality, both systems know the physical size of their screens, and the 
chromebook, in addition, connects as a desktop device, while xoom connects as a 
mobile device.

If you'd like web pages to load more zoomed in in Chrome O/S (either for a 
particular page or for all pages) then this link provides the instructions for 
how to do so:
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/96810?hl=en


On 07/15/2013 02:22 PM, Dazed_75 wrote:
 First reflex reply is that the Chromebook has a higher resolution display
 and does NOT assume you want a full screen representation so gives you a
 window of the same or similar pixel dimensions as the Xoom thereby making
 it appear physically smaller.
 
 As to how you can change that behaviour, I have no idea, but you might look
 over (or Google) Chrome Settings.
 
 
 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
 
 Why does a Xoom 10.1 screen tablet provide larger images of a webpage
 than a Chromebook 11.6 screen shows of the exact same webpage -- as
 shown in the snapshot at the link below of the two units sitting
 side-by-side?

 http://www.upquick.com/temp/xoom-chrome.jpg

 And how can one fix the Chromebook to naturally display larger images
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Re: OT: How to fix Chromebook display size?

2013-07-15 Thread joe
Thank you Joseph. An almost perfect solution.
There certainly is a huge range of zoom size options.
The 125% and 150% options work pretty good for me.
I wish there were some options between those two.
Can't imagine who might want the 25% or 500% options? ;)

Perhaps someone with extremely impaired vision would
use the 500% option, but the 25% option is a bit ridiculous.

Thanks again.



 The Chromebook in the image has a *lower* resolution (1366x768) than the
 xoom (1280x800).

 In reality, both systems know the physical size of their screens, and
 the chromebook, in addition, connects as a desktop device, while xoom
 connects as a mobile device.

 If you'd like web pages to load more zoomed in in Chrome O/S (either
 for a particular page or for all pages) then this link provides the
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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-15 Thread Stephen
It seems that HP agrees with your issues. and have made a low power server.

350 normally right now on sale for 320, and they give you an additional 50
rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052

I have no idea how reliable they are but if i had the money i would pick
one up and find out what i can do with it.


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops.  I had 2 towers running
 350 plus watt power supplies.  My office was the hottest room in the
 house.  Now today I could use that heat, however in July and August I'll
 pass.

 These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or cheap
 notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and keyboard with them.
 That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP server in a dev environment.  Or
 add an external monitor, keyboard, and a mouse and you have two screens you
 can use.  Not as nice as two large flat panel monitors, however not as much
 expense either.

 Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more powerful,
 I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev.


 
 Keith Smith

 --- On *Mon, 1/14/13, j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com* wrote:


 From: j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com

 Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
 To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
 Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 3:58 PM



 Keith last wrote:
  That would work, however they cost more than a netbook.

 I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one of which
 I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I found on
 Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I think). They run
 absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is another still available (I
 think) on Craigslist for $150:

 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html

 One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for backup.
 I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10.

 For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to big
 towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more.



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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-15 Thread Nathan England
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I am in dire need of a new machine. I'd like a new workstation, but a
server is a must. This would be a great system for a LAMP box but
sadly I wouldn't take an AMD system if it was given to me. I have
tried so hard over the years to like AMD but it has never paid off.
- From systems that would run so hot they could double as my gas furnace
in the winter to systems that are so pathetically slow they aren't
worth keeping around, and I'm talking about new systems! I recently
bought a Turion 64 X2 and in the end gave Best Buy $150 bucks to take
it back because it was awful.

I had a Duron 350 once that rocked. It was cool and blew away every
pentium processor I had at twice the speeds. AMD realized how fast
they Duron line was, as it was killing the Athlons at the time, and
they killed it off. Now the Duron lives on in the Turion series but
they don't even compare.

Am I just having bad luck with AMD or are others experiencing this? I
seriously would like to know because I've seen some screaming deals on
quad core and tri core machines I'd love to pick up, but seriously am
too scared to lose the money on another piece of junk. I think I've
had 6 AMDs in the last 15 years and have only been happy with 1. Intel
on the other hand I've had dozens and loved them all... (except the
celeron).

Nathan


On 1/15/2013 7:17 AM, Stephen wrote:
 It seems that HP agrees with your issues. and have made a low power
 server.
 
 350 normally right now on sale for 320, and they give you an
 additional 50 rebate.
 
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052
 
 I have no idea how reliable they are but if i had the money i would
 pick one up and find out what i can do with it.
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM, keith smith
 klsmith2...@yahoo.com mailto:klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops.  I had 2 towers 
 running 350 plus watt power supplies.  My office was the hottest 
 room in the house.  Now today I could use that heat, however in
 July and August I'll pass.
 
 These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or
 cheap notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and
 keyboard with them.  That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP
 server in a dev environment.  Or add an external monitor, keyboard,
 and a mouse and you have two screens you can use.  Not as nice as
 two large flat panel monitors, however not as much expense either.
 
 
 Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more 
 powerful, I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev.
 
 
  Keith Smith
 
 --- On *Mon, 1/14/13, j...@actionline.com
 mailto:j...@actionline.com /j...@actionline.com
 mailto:j...@actionline.com/* wrote:
 
 
 From: j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com 
 j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com
 
 Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG
 discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org 
 mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14,
 2013, 3:58 PM
 
 
 
 Keith last wrote:
 That would work, however they cost more than a netbook.
 
 I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one
 of which I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I
 found on Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I
 think). They run absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is
 another still available (I think) on Craigslist for $150:
 
 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html
 
 One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for 
 backup. I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10.
 
 For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to
 big towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more.
 
 
 
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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-15 Thread Stephen
I have not had these issues. but i have not use their mobile processors in
a long time. The 1090T i have is great.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com wrote:

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 I am in dire need of a new machine. I'd like a new workstation, but a
 server is a must. This would be a great system for a LAMP box but
 sadly I wouldn't take an AMD system if it was given to me. I have
 tried so hard over the years to like AMD but it has never paid off.
 - From systems that would run so hot they could double as my gas furnace
 in the winter to systems that are so pathetically slow they aren't
 worth keeping around, and I'm talking about new systems! I recently
 bought a Turion 64 X2 and in the end gave Best Buy $150 bucks to take
 it back because it was awful.

 I had a Duron 350 once that rocked. It was cool and blew away every
 pentium processor I had at twice the speeds. AMD realized how fast
 they Duron line was, as it was killing the Athlons at the time, and
 they killed it off. Now the Duron lives on in the Turion series but
 they don't even compare.

 Am I just having bad luck with AMD or are others experiencing this? I
 seriously would like to know because I've seen some screaming deals on
 quad core and tri core machines I'd love to pick up, but seriously am
 too scared to lose the money on another piece of junk. I think I've
 had 6 AMDs in the last 15 years and have only been happy with 1. Intel
 on the other hand I've had dozens and loved them all... (except the
 celeron).

 Nathan


 On 1/15/2013 7:17 AM, Stephen wrote:
  It seems that HP agrees with your issues. and have made a low power
  server.
 
  350 normally right now on sale for 320, and they give you an
  additional 50 rebate.
 
  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052
 
  I have no idea how reliable they are but if i had the money i would
  pick one up and find out what i can do with it.
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM, keith smith
  klsmith2...@yahoo.com mailto:klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
  Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops.  I had 2 towers
  running 350 plus watt power supplies.  My office was the hottest
  room in the house.  Now today I could use that heat, however in
  July and August I'll pass.
 
  These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or
  cheap notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and
  keyboard with them.  That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP
  server in a dev environment.  Or add an external monitor, keyboard,
  and a mouse and you have two screens you can use.  Not as nice as
  two large flat panel monitors, however not as much expense either.
 
 
  Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more
  powerful, I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev.
 
 
   Keith Smith
 
  --- On *Mon, 1/14/13, j...@actionline.com
  mailto:j...@actionline.com /j...@actionline.com
  mailto:j...@actionline.com/* wrote:
 
 
  From: j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com
  j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com
 
  Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG
  discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
  mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14,
  2013, 3:58 PM
 
 
 
  Keith last wrote:
  That would work, however they cost more than a netbook.
 
  I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one
  of which I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I
  found on Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I
  think). They run absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is
  another still available (I think) on Craigslist for $150:
 
  http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html
 
  One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for
  backup. I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10.
 
  For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to
  big towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more.
 
 
 
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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-15 Thread Nathan England
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I have historically used laptops with the screens ripped off for
servers and various remote workstations. Net Tops just seem perfect
for what I want. Typically I can get more powerful guts for close to
the same cost because I'm not paying for a screen, keyboard and mouse.

But I really like the ability to leave the battery in. Up here in the
woods we have problems with suicidal squirrels taking out
transformers. And some days I feel like we are an APS testing town
where they randomly turn off the power to see what will happen.

Though I have everything on battery backup, sadly when power goes out
my cable goes with it. That is the ONLY advantage DSL has over cable.
At least here in APS testing town...


On 1/14/2013 4:20 PM, keith smith wrote:
 
 Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops.  I had 2 towers 
 running 350 plus watt power supplies.  My office was the hottest
 room in the house.  Now today I could use that heat, however in
 July and August I'll pass.
 
 These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or
 cheap notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and
 keyboard with them.  That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP
 server in a dev environment.  Or add an external monitor, keyboard,
 and a mouse and you have two screens you can use.  Not as nice as
 two large flat panel monitors, however not as much expense either.
 
 
 Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more 
 powerful, I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev.
 
 
  Keith Smith
 





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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-14 Thread Nathan England

And the battery in the laptop (if you leave it in, which I typically do) works 
as a battery backup should power go out... Net tops don't have that!

Nathan

On Monday, January 14, 2013 14:14:42 keith smith wrote:



That would work, however they cost more than a netbook.  


Keith Smith

--- On Mon, 1/14/13, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 2:50 PM


sounds like a net top would be perfect for you then. they are a netbook 
without the keyboard battery and screen. install centos on it and leave it 
alone.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=nettopsSubmit=ENE




On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:



I think they have more value than just browsing the web.  I am a LAMP dev.  I 
use a cheap HP Laptop as my dev server.  It is not much better than this 
Chromebook and I'm using a HP Pavilion g6 (cheap and on sale) for my 
workstation - very bottom of the line.  

For instance, a fellow PLUG member was walking me through setting up a virtual 
machine.  He was using a netbook with the Intel chip that was prior to the 
Intel Atom N455 and he was beating me.  I am running an AMD A4-3300 running at 
1.9GHtz and 4GB RAM.  I think his netbook was running at 1.3GHz and it 
probably had only 1GB RAM.  

I think these cheap Netbook are more powerful than they might seem. I would 
not use one if I were a designer because they might not have enough power.  
However I find them to be very useful and they are cheap.  

I know they are way more powerful than my old broken down 11 year old laptop 
running a 1Ghz Celeron w/256MB RAM.  2 years ago I loaded CentOS on it and 
configured it to run as a mail server using Qmail Toaster.  It was only a 
test, however it ran just fine.  

I've been toying with configuring a Netbook as a public facing LAMP web server 
for testing. 

The Tucson Free Unix Group (TFUG) used a laptop for a couple years to serve 
their website.  Not for an active website, however it worked just find.  AND 
it served the mailing list.

For me the computer is waiting most of the time for me to type so these small 
cheap computers work well.  If I were compiling C or C++ all the time I would 
want something substantially faster, however I am not. 

Anyone else using Netbooks or cheap laptops in a production environment? 


Keith Smith

--- On Mon, 1/14/13, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 12:02 PM


The Pros are its cost/performance. They generally run very well for what they 
do. The battery life is pretty good also.
The cons you cannot fall back to Firefox for sites that will not allow chrome, 
and you are using a small net-book that is 100% purpose built to run just a 
browser. 


Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal of 
functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my favorites of 
these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC clients as well. so in a 
pinch you can remote someplace and get something done.. 



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote:


Thanks for sharing this, Keith.
Seems like a Chromebook might be excellent for travel.
One can readily see some good pros ... what are the cons?

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_acer_c710utm_campaign=enutm_source=en-
ha-na-us-gdn-acerutm_medium=ha

How superior is Intel Atom N455 dual core performance than Intel Celeron
dual core?

Seems like the Samsung Chromebook at $249 is better in a lot of ways.
Longer battery life and perhaps better construction.




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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-14 Thread joe

Keith last wrote:
 That would work, however they cost more than a netbook. 

I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one of which
I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I found on
Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I think). They run
absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is another still available (I
think) on Craigslist for $150:

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html

One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for backup.
I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10.

For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to big
towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more.



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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-14 Thread keith smith

Good point.  I put my batteries in my desk drawer hoping for battery battery 
longevity.  



Keith Smith

--- On Mon, 1/14/13, Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com wrote:

From: Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 3:33 PM



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And the battery in the laptop (if you leave it in, which I typically do) works 
as a battery backup should power go out... Net tops don't have that!
 
Nathan

On Monday, January 14, 2013 14:14:42 keith smith wrote:

 




That would work, however they cost more than a netbook.  


Keith Smith

--- On Mon, 1/14/13, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 2:50 PM


sounds like a net top would be perfect for you then. they are a netbook without 
the keyboard battery and screen. install centos on it and leave it alone.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=nettopsSubmit=ENE




On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 




I think they have more value than just browsing the web.  I am a LAMP dev.  I 
use a cheap HP Laptop as my dev server.  It is not much better than this 
Chromebook and I'm using a HP Pavilion g6 (cheap and on sale) for my 
workstation - very bottom of the line.  

For instance, a fellow PLUG member was walking me through setting up a virtual 
machine.  He was using a netbook with the Intel chip that was prior to the 
Intel Atom N455 and he was beating me.  I am running an AMD A4-3300 running at 
1.9GHtz and 4GB RAM.  I think his netbook was running at 1.3GHz and it probably 
had only 1GB RAM.  

I think these cheap Netbook are more powerful than they might seem. I would not 
use one if I were a designer because they might not have enough power.  However 
I find them to be very useful and they are cheap.  

I know they are way more powerful than my old broken down 11 year old laptop 
running a 1Ghz Celeron w/256MB RAM.  2 years ago I loaded CentOS on it and 
configured it to run as a mail server using Qmail Toaster.  It was only a test, 
however it ran just fine.  

I've been toying with configuring a Netbook as a public facing LAMP web server 
for testing. 

The Tucson Free Unix Group (TFUG) used a laptop for a couple years to serve 
their website.  Not for an active website, however it worked just find.  AND it 
served the mailing list.

For me the computer is waiting most of the time for me to type so these small 
cheap computers work well.  If I were compiling C or C++ all the time I would 
want something substantially faster, however I am not.     

Anyone else using Netbooks or cheap laptops in a production environment?     


Keith Smith

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Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
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Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 12:02 PM


The Pros are its cost/performance. They generally run very well for what they 
do. The battery life is pretty good also.
The cons you cannot fall back to Firefox for sites that will not allow chrome, 
and you are using a small net-book that is 100% purpose built to run just a 
browser. 


Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal of 
functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my favorites of 
these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC clients as well. so in a 
pinch you can remote someplace and get something done.. 



On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote:


Thanks for sharing this, Keith.
Seems like a Chromebook might be excellent for travel.
One can readily see some good pros ... what are the cons?

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_acer_c710utm_campaign=enutm_source=en-ha-na-us-gdn-acerutm_medium=ha

How superior is Intel Atom N455 dual core performance than Intel Celeron
dual core?

Seems like the Samsung Chromebook at $249 is better in a lot of ways.
Longer battery life and perhaps better construction.




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2013-01-14 Thread Stephen
yes but Hulu is flash and that should work :-)


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM, James Finstrom 
jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote:

 Bought the kids the new samsung chromebooks for christmas and they love
 em... the desktop now collects dust... The ARM chromebools still don't do
 netflix but oh well...

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 Keith last wrote:
  That would work, however they cost more than a netbook.

 I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one of which
 I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I found on
 Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I think). They run
 absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is another still available (I
 think) on Craigslist for $150:

 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html

 One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for backup.
 I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10.

 For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to big
 towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more.



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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-14 Thread joe
Stephen wrote:
 ... [chromebooks] are 100% purpose built to run just a browser.
 Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal
 of functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my
 favorites of these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC
 clients as well.

What is RDP?

Would it be possible to install Linux on the Samsung chromebook?
I've read that it is being done on the Acer C7 chromebook.

Or could one boot Linux from a USB flash stick on the Samsung?



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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-14 Thread Joseph Sinclair
The samsung chromebook runs a dual-core Exynos 5 processor (smartphone/tablet 
ARM 15 chip).  It might be possible to get Linux running, but you need to get 
an ARM build.
Also, there is a secure boot feature that may prevent running anything other 
than ChromeOS on the system (absent a risky unlock procedure).
If you want to hack, then get the C7, which is far more amenable to being 
repurposed; the Samsung version really is intended as an appliance laptop.

That said, I have the Samsung Chromebook, and it's a very nice tagalong device; 
not a primary device, but very good to take with me just about anywhere I might 
want to have a real keyboard and remote access, even when I'm not sure whether 
I'll use it or not.

It's (almost) completely useless without WiFi, however (no wired port, and no 
cell option), so either have a mobile hotspot on hand or be sure there's WiFi 
available wherever it is you're going.


On 01/14/2013 05:40 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
 Stephen wrote:
 ... [chromebooks] are 100% purpose built to run just a browser.
 Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal
 of functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my
 favorites of these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC
 clients as well.
 
 What is RDP?
 
 Would it be possible to install Linux on the Samsung chromebook?
 I've read that it is being done on the Acer C7 chromebook.
 
 Or could one boot Linux from a USB flash stick on the Samsung?
 
 
 
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Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?

2013-01-14 Thread Michael Butash
I haven't looked to see if the bootloader is unlockable on the 
chromebooks, but otherwise if so, it's really not typically risky. 
I've been romming/unlocking phones since winmo3/pre/early androids and 
never bricked a device that wasn't recoverable via a factory recovery 
means.  Samsung is decent about providing unlock capability, so I would 
expect it is or will be unlockable by end-users as most of their modern 
devices are.


Finding a rom that works on it, maybe not so much.  Canonical ported an 
ubuntu to the nexus7, and later the gnex as ubuntu phone, but it's a 
matter of getting the system working with still somewhat irregular 
hardware quirks in each, including x with capable drivers for direct 
render hardware acceleration and multitouch.  Native ubuntu on arm 
phone-ish devices is still a WIP.


More easily you can usually get ubuntu to run externally atop the 
android kernel, and there's an app to guide you through setting it up in 
SD on play for ubuntu 10.04, 12.04, or backtrack5.  I had 12.04 on my 
gnex for a bit, and would vnc to the desktop for use.  A bit kludgy, but 
gave me some decent usability aside from unity itself being a pig and 
slowing the entire phone down.  LXDE is a much better route I'd heard, 
but never got to try.


I'm trying to find some time to set up ubuntu over android on my 
transformer prime infinity with the keyboard dock to see how my mileage 
is with it, but hit some quirks of cyanogenmod 10.1 on it.


-mb


On 01/14/2013 09:01 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:

The samsung chromebook runs a dual-core Exynos 5 processor (smartphone/tablet 
ARM 15 chip).  It might be possible to get Linux running, but you need to get 
an ARM build.
Also, there is a secure boot feature that may prevent running anything other 
than ChromeOS on the system (absent a risky unlock procedure).
If you want to hack, then get the C7, which is far more amenable to being repurposed; 
the Samsung version really is intended as an appliance laptop.

That said, I have the Samsung Chromebook, and it's a very nice tagalong device; 
not a primary device, but very good to take with me just about anywhere I might 
want to have a real keyboard and remote access, even when I'm not sure whether 
I'll use it or not.

It's (almost) completely useless without WiFi, however (no wired port, and no 
cell option), so either have a mobile hotspot on hand or be sure there's WiFi 
available wherever it is you're going.


On 01/14/2013 05:40 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

Stephen wrote:

... [chromebooks] are 100% purpose built to run just a browser.
Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal
of functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my
favorites of these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC
clients as well.


What is RDP?

Would it be possible to install Linux on the Samsung chromebook?
I've read that it is being done on the Acer C7 chromebook.

Or could one boot Linux from a USB flash stick on the Samsung?



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