re: How to rsync to a chromebook with linux?
rsync options [from] [to] If you are running it on the chromebook then the from will be your desktop rsynce -avH --progress 192.168.0.??:/home/joe/bin /home/upquick/bin or from the chromebook cd /home/upquick/bin scp -r joe@192.168.0.??:bin . Since its the first time then there won't be much savings by using rsync. James C. Subject: How to rsync to a chromebook with linux? Message-ID: <93dc44b387d9ce1179f5ebf2455e1270.squir...@box5112.bluehost.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Just purchased the ASUS c423 Chromebook (it is fantastic) and I was delighted to discover that I could just click on an icon on the "shelf" (panel) and Linux was quickly installed automatically (within only a couple minutes). So, I am really enjoying the discovery process to see what all I can do now with Linux on this Chromebook running*simultaneously* with the chrome os. However, I have not yet been able to find the magic syntax to rsync files from my current Linux system to this new Chromebook. When I tap on the Linux icon on the shelf the Chromebook opens to a black screen with this prompt: # upquick@penguin: and I found the IP address is 192.168.0.22 so I created a subdirectory titled 'bin' in: home/upquick/ and tried the following in order to try to copy all of my hundreds of 'bin' shell script utilities to the chromebook: rsync -avH --progress/home/joe/bin/ upquick@192.168.0.22:/home/upquick/bin/ Regrettably, this did not work, so what do I need to do to get it to work? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
How to rsync to a chromebook with linux?
Just purchased the ASUS c423 Chromebook (it is fantastic) and I was delighted to discover that I could just click on an icon on the "shelf" (panel) and Linux was quickly installed automatically (within only a couple minutes). So, I am really enjoying the discovery process to see what all I can do now with Linux on this Chromebook running *simultaneously* with the chrome os. However, I have not yet been able to find the magic syntax to rsync files from my current Linux system to this new Chromebook. When I tap on the Linux icon on the shelf the Chromebook opens to a black screen with this prompt: # upquick@penguin: and I found the IP address is 192.168.0.22 so I created a subdirectory titled 'bin' in: home/upquick/ and tried the following in order to try to copy all of my hundreds of 'bin' shell script utilities to the chromebook: rsync -avH --progress /home/joe/bin/ upquick@192.168.0.22:/home/upquick/bin/ Regrettably, this did not work, so what do I need to do to get it to work? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Google drive chromebook
And a large number of chromebooks also have access to run android apps via the google play store. On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 5:00 PM Carl Parrish wrote: > I have a Google Pixel Book 2. While I do still carry my MBP around with me > I find I increasingly don't need it. The cloud 9 IDE ( > https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/?p=tile) is pretty good. If you work with > VS Code https://stackblitz.com/ is very close to being all you need. I > prefer Webstorm myself and now can run the Linux version natively on my > pixelbook before I could with Cruton - > https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-Ubuntu-Chromebook-crouton%20 - > but as long as I have an internet connection and can access AWS or ssh into > my servers there is nothing stopping me from getting real work done from my > Chromebook. I have 64 gb of hard drive space I think if I was going to do > it again I would upgrade to the 128 GB (now that I can run docker on my > Chromebook a bit of hard drive space is nice) but with 3 TB of cloud space > (I think that came with 3 years through Google) I'm not hurting with it as > a laptop at all. > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:23 AM Kevin Fries wrote: > >> Always remember that a Chromebook is ment to be a connected device. I >> use mine all the time. But while it can replace my desktop 70%-80% of the >> time, there are times as a Linux professional where I need a laptop. So, I >> still have my Arch laptop (for software development because it has better >> tools than online and a bigger screen). So I try to only store locally >> what I MUST. Passwords are stored via LastPass so they move between >> Chromebook and Desktop. Files are stored on Google Drive or Dropbox for >> the same reason. >> >> There is a local download on your Chromebook, but I would really try not >> to use that for anything that is not ephemeral. It is how the device was >> designed to be used. >> >> Kevin >> >> Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=13569> >> On Sep 8, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Michael wrote: >> >>> I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for >>> it (yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is >>> that saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Google drive chromebook
I have a Google Pixel Book 2. While I do still carry my MBP around with me I find I increasingly don't need it. The cloud 9 IDE ( https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/?p=tile) is pretty good. If you work with VS Code https://stackblitz.com/ is very close to being all you need. I prefer Webstorm myself and now can run the Linux version natively on my pixelbook before I could with Cruton - https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-Ubuntu-Chromebook-crouton%20 - but as long as I have an internet connection and can access AWS or ssh into my servers there is nothing stopping me from getting real work done from my Chromebook. I have 64 gb of hard drive space I think if I was going to do it again I would upgrade to the 128 GB (now that I can run docker on my Chromebook a bit of hard drive space is nice) but with 3 TB of cloud space (I think that came with 3 years through Google) I'm not hurting with it as a laptop at all. On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:23 AM Kevin Fries wrote: > Always remember that a Chromebook is ment to be a connected device. I use > mine all the time. But while it can replace my desktop 70%-80% of the > time, there are times as a Linux professional where I need a laptop. So, I > still have my Arch laptop (for software development because it has better > tools than online and a bigger screen). So I try to only store locally > what I MUST. Passwords are stored via LastPass so they move between > Chromebook and Desktop. Files are stored on Google Drive or Dropbox for > the same reason. > > There is a local download on your Chromebook, but I would really try not > to use that for anything that is not ephemeral. It is how the device was > designed to be used. > > Kevin > > Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=13569> > On Sep 8, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Michael wrote: > >> I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for >> it (yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is >> that saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Google drive chromebook
Always remember that a Chromebook is ment to be a connected device. I use mine all the time. But while it can replace my desktop 70%-80% of the time, there are times as a Linux professional where I need a laptop. So, I still have my Arch laptop (for software development because it has better tools than online and a bigger screen). So I try to only store locally what I MUST. Passwords are stored via LastPass so they move between Chromebook and Desktop. Files are stored on Google Drive or Dropbox for the same reason. There is a local download on your Chromebook, but I would really try not to use that for anything that is not ephemeral. It is how the device was designed to be used. Kevin Sent from BlueMail On Sep 8, 2018, 9:00 AM, at 9:00 AM, Michael wrote: >I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for >it >(yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is >that >saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification > >-- >:-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > >--- >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Google drive chromebook
How much SSD space do you have? On 2018-09-08 07:59, Michael wrote: > I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for it > (yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is that > saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Google drive chromebook
I got a chromebook. I just figured out how to open the file manager for it (yeaaa me!) but I can't figure out where the "Downloads" is saved. Is that saved on the computer? I think so but I just want a verification -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: New Chromebook won't reach printer
Odd thing, but if you replaced it, it probably got a new ip address that it sees as something other than the original device. Might check to delete the old and add the new. I went through this replacing my home dhcp server with another, and let most general things reset. Broke all my home automation stuff that that rely upon things in one fashion or another. Dumb IOT/chinese crapgadgets. On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Victor Odhner wrote: > My wife’s Chromebook died (broken charging port) so we got a new HP > Chromebook. The old one worked perfectly with CUPS. > > Now our printer shows up in CUPS, but if I try to set up a print, > Chromebook says it can’t connect. > > *Any theories about why this computer won’t connect?* > > Google’s Cloud Print worked for her Google account in Chrome on a macBook. > That same instance shows on the Chromebook as “ready to print,” but is not > offered in the print dialog. > > I added a Brother app on the Chromebook, but it couldn’t see anything. > > I’ve been through all this for hours, repeatedly. Rebooted the Chromebook, > even reloaded the account. > > _ > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: New Chromebook won't reach printer
My wife’s Chromebook died (broken charging port) so we got a new HP Chromebook. The old one worked perfectly with CUPS. Now our printer shows up in CUPS, but if I try to set up a print, Chromebook says it can’t connect. Any theories about why this computer won’t connect? Google’s Cloud Print worked for her Google account in Chrome on a macBook. That same instance shows on the Chromebook as “ready to print,” but is not offered in the print dialog. I added a Brother app on the Chromebook, but it couldn’t see anything. I’ve been through all this for hours, repeatedly. Rebooted the Chromebook, even reloaded the account. _ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ChromeBook Growing up
Andrew, you should look at http://codiad.com/ And The Chromebook became much more useful to me when android apps were able to run on one. But still mostly just cute rather than genuinely useful. However. this is a converged environment that could be a really killer app. On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Andrew McRobb <andrewmcr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Great, I know there are web services that provide a sort of "IDE" > experience for us devs when it comes to programming, but I don't trust > those services 100%... So I really love the direction they are going. I > know Dell kicked out some Linux based Laptops with small memory, but they > are a joke from my experience. Like, they belong to a 10 year old. So > getting a sort of meaty piece of machine with some real functionality > sounds perfect. > > Andrew McRobb > Full-time Software Developer > Part-time Freelancer > mcrobb.info > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Michael Butash <mich...@butash.net> wrote: > >> That is actually really cool to see/hear. I've liked their hardware, but >> a "web-based os" is pretty absurd to me as trying to do the job of an >> engineer on an tablet or phone. I could, but geez, why? Growing up with >> PC/Laptops, Chromebooks always struck me the drivel, but I've tried >> everything for years to run android apps under linux as the final killer >> app, and simply nothing works. I could tolerate the stupid webapp thing in >> the background if I can apt install nmap, wireshark, libreoffice, and other >> tools I use under linux on a chromebook, I think... >> >> -mb >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding >>> apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications. >>> >>> This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me. >>> >>> https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks- >>> get-new-app-muscle-with-built-in-linux/ >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ChromeBook Growing up
Great, I know there are web services that provide a sort of "IDE" experience for us devs when it comes to programming, but I don't trust those services 100%... So I really love the direction they are going. I know Dell kicked out some Linux based Laptops with small memory, but they are a joke from my experience. Like, they belong to a 10 year old. So getting a sort of meaty piece of machine with some real functionality sounds perfect. Andrew McRobb Full-time Software Developer Part-time Freelancer mcrobb.info On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Michael Butash <mich...@butash.net> wrote: > That is actually really cool to see/hear. I've liked their hardware, but > a "web-based os" is pretty absurd to me as trying to do the job of an > engineer on an tablet or phone. I could, but geez, why? Growing up with > PC/Laptops, Chromebooks always struck me the drivel, but I've tried > everything for years to run android apps under linux as the final killer > app, and simply nothing works. I could tolerate the stupid webapp thing in > the background if I can apt install nmap, wireshark, libreoffice, and other > tools I use under linux on a chromebook, I think... > > -mb > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding >> apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications. >> >> This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me. >> >> https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks- >> get-new-app-muscle-with-built-in-linux/ >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ChromeBook Growing up
That is actually really cool to see/hear. I've liked their hardware, but a "web-based os" is pretty absurd to me as trying to do the job of an engineer on an tablet or phone. I could, but geez, why? Growing up with PC/Laptops, Chromebooks always struck me the drivel, but I've tried everything for years to run android apps under linux as the final killer app, and simply nothing works. I could tolerate the stupid webapp thing in the background if I can apt install nmap, wireshark, libreoffice, and other tools I use under linux on a chromebook, I think... -mb On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding > apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications. > > This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me. > > https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks-get-new-app- > muscle-with-built-in-linux/ > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ChromeBook Growing up
2018 truly IS the Year of the Linux Desktop! Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. Original Message On May 9, 2018, 11:02, Stephen Partington wrote: > So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding > apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications. > > This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me. > > https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks-get-new-app-muscle-with-built-in-linux/ > > -- > > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
ChromeBook Growing up
So it appears that google is building up their ChromeOS again and adding apt-get/apt so you can install full fledged Linux applications. This kind of makes a Chromebook a hugely useful device for me. https://www.cnet.com/news/googles-chrome-os-and-chromebooks-get-new-app-muscle-with-built-in-linux/ -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office
Or use that chroot-based thingy that lets you run an entire copy of Linux underneath the chrome os. I forget what it’s called, sorry. Chrost? No, there you go – crouton. It worked for me. Switching between Linux and Chrome is a bit weird, but it works, I tried it myself. (I probably just didn’t find the right majik incantation ;-) Rusty From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Partington Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 6:48 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online. Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines. On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com<mailto:bmi...@gmail.com>> wrote: How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org<mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office
well if it is like most laptops the mouse is connected to the keyboard. so if the keyboard goes then so does the mouse. PS look up crouton. It is your path to Linux on the chromebook. On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > How do I install linux on it? I thought the hd made it useless for > anything > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> because it is a browser machine is why I recommended it to my lady. I >> sure wish my machine's hardware didn't decide to die. I think it strange >> that both the mouse and keyboaed died at the same time. >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online. >>> >>> Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines. >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office
might try booting it to a live distro to eliminate software issues if it works On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > How do I install linux on it? I thought the hd made it useless for > anything > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> because it is a browser machine is why I recommended it to my lady. I >> sure wish my machine's hardware didn't decide to die. I think it strange >> that both the mouse and keyboaed died at the same time. >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online. >>> >>> Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines. >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Todd Cole Ubuntu Arizona Team 4605 S PRIEST DR LOT 3 TEMPE AZ 85282-6507 to...@azloco.com 602-677-9402 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office
How do I install linux on it? I thought the hd made it useless for anything On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > because it is a browser machine is why I recommended it to my lady. I sure > wish my machine's hardware didn't decide to die. I think it strange that > both the mouse and keyboaed died at the same time. > > On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online. >> >> Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines. >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook? >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office
because it is a browser machine is why I recommended it to my lady. I sure wish my machine's hardware didn't decide to die. I think it strange that both the mouse and keyboaed died at the same time. On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online. > > Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines. > > On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook? >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office
hack it or install linux. or find someone that does collabora online. Chromebooks are BROWSER dedicated machines. On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook? > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
I now am on a Chromebook trying to d/l Libre Office
How do I run libreoffice on a Chromebook? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Chromebook to Network Printer
Thanks, Stephen. We went with Cloud Print, which finally worked. It was necessary to browse to the printer’s control page, which couldn’t be opened by a browser until the WIFI router was restarted, although Windows and MacBook could reach it to print. I’ll also try the CUPS option since we have it installed. It previously couldn’t connect, but maybe the router bounce will do the trick. Thanks, Victor __ On Aug 28, 2017, at 07:02:16, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote: The chrome printing back-end is such that you can print to your printer from home. I think the CUPS implementation would be a preferred way to go unless you want to print from android and the like as well. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Victor Odhner <vodh...@cox.net <mailto:vodh...@cox.net>> wrote: Wow, this is crazy. I got a new network printer so my wife’s new chromebook could print, and it still turns out to be a major project to get this hooked up. It’s eaten my whole afternoon, with no success. The only official connection they support is via a server at Google, which is downright insane. (Fortunately my wife is not concerned with security.) The printer is a Brother HL-3170cdw color laser printer. The PC is an acer chromebook. My five-year-old macbook didn’t have any problem talking to the printer the Old Fashioned Way. OK, so this is not totally Off Topic: we have Linux behind Chrome, right? ChromeOS even offers an option to enable CUPS. I’ll keep poking at this from different angles, but if this Just Worked for someone, I’d appreciate a clue. Thanks, Victor P.S. - Please reply privately to following if interested, since this is OFF-Off-Topic: I now have a fully unemployed HP OfficeJet Pro K550. It’s served me well for about 10 years, and I’d like to see it go to a good home for an active retirement. It holds lots of paper, and prints pretty fast. The downside is that it’s got some miles on it and requires a USB connection. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss <http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Chromebook to Network Printer
The chrome printing back-end is such that you can print to your printer from home. I think the CUPS implementation would be a preferred way to go unless you want to print from android and the like as well. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Victor Odhner <vodh...@cox.net> wrote: > Wow, this is crazy. I got a new network printer so my wife’s new > chromebook could print, and it still turns out to be a major project to get > this hooked up. It’s eaten my whole afternoon, with no success. The only > official connection they support is via a server at Google, which is > downright insane. (Fortunately my wife is not concerned with security.) > > The printer is a Brother HL-3170cdw color laser printer. The PC is an acer > chromebook. > > My five-year-old macbook didn’t have any problem talking to the printer > the Old Fashioned Way. > > OK, so this is not totally Off Topic: we have Linux behind Chrome, right? > ChromeOS even offers an option to enable CUPS. > > I’ll keep poking at this from different angles, but if this Just Worked > for someone, I’d appreciate a clue. > > Thanks, > > Victor > > P.S. - Please reply privately to following if interested, since this is > OFF-Off-Topic: I now have a fully unemployed HP OfficeJet Pro K550. It’s > served me well for about 10 years, and I’d like to see it go to a good home > for an active retirement. It holds lots of paper, and prints pretty fast. > The downside is that it’s got some miles on it and requires a USB > connection. > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Chromebook to Network Printer
Wow, this is crazy. I got a new network printer so my wife’s new chromebook could print, and it still turns out to be a major project to get this hooked up. It’s eaten my whole afternoon, with no success. The only official connection they support is via a server at Google, which is downright insane. (Fortunately my wife is not concerned with security.) The printer is a Brother HL-3170cdw color laser printer. The PC is an acer chromebook. My five-year-old macbook didn’t have any problem talking to the printer the Old Fashioned Way. OK, so this is not totally Off Topic: we have Linux behind Chrome, right? ChromeOS even offers an option to enable CUPS. I’ll keep poking at this from different angles, but if this Just Worked for someone, I’d appreciate a clue. Thanks, Victor P.S. - Please reply privately to following if interested, since this is OFF-Off-Topic: I now have a fully unemployed HP OfficeJet Pro K550. It’s served me well for about 10 years, and I’d like to see it go to a good home for an active retirement. It holds lots of paper, and prints pretty fast. The downside is that it’s got some miles on it and requires a USB connection. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Chromebook
Yeah it's a client to help you upload and sync docs to your google drive: https://www.google.com/drive/download/client/ On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > drive client software? > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The web interface lets you do multiple. Or you can install the drive >> client software >> >> On Jul 28, 2017 7:12 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Each one separately? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Probably just upload them all to Google drive >>>> >>>> On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is >>>>> there an easy way to transfer her files into it? >>>>> Her files consist of pdf's, microsoft word docs and zip files, >>>>> containing the same. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Chromebook
drive client software? On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> wrote: > The web interface lets you do multiple. Or you can install the drive > client software > > On Jul 28, 2017 7:12 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Each one separately? >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Probably just upload them all to Google drive >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is >>>> there an easy way to transfer her files into it? >>>> Her files consist of pdf's, microsoft word docs and zip files, >>>> containing the same. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Chromebook
The web interface lets you do multiple. Or you can install the drive client software On Jul 28, 2017 7:12 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Each one separately? > > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Probably just upload them all to Google drive >> >> On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is >>> there an easy way to transfer her files into it? >>> Her files consist of pdf's, microsoft word docs and zip files, >>> containing the same. >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Chromebook
The best way to set up a chrombook is to move your data into google drive. this will then become available to the account from the chromebook. On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> wrote: > Probably just upload them all to Google drive > > On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is >> there an easy way to transfer her files into it? >> Her files consist of pdf's, microsoft word docs and zip files, containing >> the same. >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Chromebook
Each one separately? On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Brien Dieterle <bri...@gmail.com> wrote: > Probably just upload them all to Google drive > > On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is >> there an easy way to transfer her files into it? >> Her files consist of pdf's, microsoft word docs and zip files, containing >> the same. >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Chromebook
Probably just upload them all to Google drive On Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM, "Michael" <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is there > an easy way to transfer her files into it? > Her files consist of pdf's, microsoft word docs and zip files, containing > the same. > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Chromebook
Well, my girl's chromebook came yesterday and everything is good. Is there an easy way to transfer her files into it? Her files consist of pdf's, microsoft word docs and zip files, containing the same. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: Using Chromebook to edit docs offline ...
Keith wrote: Please post your experience so we can learn from it. Stephen wrote: I have been trying to wrap my head around a Chromebook experience with limited success. I would also be interested in hearing about your experience. Still trying to figure out how to simplify this procedure, but here are some first draft notes on my experience with using Chromebook to access and edit documents offline: http://upquick.com/temp/chromebook/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT: How to fix Chromebook display size?
Why does a Xoom 10.1 screen tablet provide larger images of a webpage than a Chromebook 11.6 screen shows of the exact same webpage -- as shown in the snapshot at the link below of the two units sitting side-by-side? http://www.upquick.com/temp/xoom-chrome.jpg And how can one fix the Chromebook to naturally display larger images (without having to use CTRL++ several times)? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to fix Chromebook display size?
First reflex reply is that the Chromebook has a higher resolution display and does NOT assume you want a full screen representation so gives you a window of the same or similar pixel dimensions as the Xoom thereby making it appear physically smaller. As to how you can change that behaviour, I have no idea, but you might look over (or Google) Chrome Settings. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Why does a Xoom 10.1 screen tablet provide larger images of a webpage than a Chromebook 11.6 screen shows of the exact same webpage -- as shown in the snapshot at the link below of the two units sitting side-by-side? http://www.upquick.com/temp/xoom-chrome.jpg And how can one fix the Chromebook to naturally display larger images (without having to use CTRL++ several times)? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy). Remove addresses from a forwarded message body before clicking Send. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to fix Chromebook display size?
You would think that's the case, but the numbers don't support it: The Chromebook in the image has a *lower* resolution (1366x768) than the xoom (1280x800). In reality, both systems know the physical size of their screens, and the chromebook, in addition, connects as a desktop device, while xoom connects as a mobile device. If you'd like web pages to load more zoomed in in Chrome O/S (either for a particular page or for all pages) then this link provides the instructions for how to do so: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/96810?hl=en On 07/15/2013 02:22 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: First reflex reply is that the Chromebook has a higher resolution display and does NOT assume you want a full screen representation so gives you a window of the same or similar pixel dimensions as the Xoom thereby making it appear physically smaller. As to how you can change that behaviour, I have no idea, but you might look over (or Google) Chrome Settings. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Why does a Xoom 10.1 screen tablet provide larger images of a webpage than a Chromebook 11.6 screen shows of the exact same webpage -- as shown in the snapshot at the link below of the two units sitting side-by-side? http://www.upquick.com/temp/xoom-chrome.jpg And how can one fix the Chromebook to naturally display larger images (without having to use CTRL++ several times)? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to fix Chromebook display size?
Thank you Joseph. An almost perfect solution. There certainly is a huge range of zoom size options. The 125% and 150% options work pretty good for me. I wish there were some options between those two. Can't imagine who might want the 25% or 500% options? ;) Perhaps someone with extremely impaired vision would use the 500% option, but the 25% option is a bit ridiculous. Thanks again. The Chromebook in the image has a *lower* resolution (1366x768) than the xoom (1280x800). In reality, both systems know the physical size of their screens, and the chromebook, in addition, connects as a desktop device, while xoom connects as a mobile device. If you'd like web pages to load more zoomed in in Chrome O/S (either for a particular page or for all pages) then this link provides the instructions for how to do so: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/96810?hl=en --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
It seems that HP agrees with your issues. and have made a low power server. 350 normally right now on sale for 320, and they give you an additional 50 rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052 I have no idea how reliable they are but if i had the money i would pick one up and find out what i can do with it. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops. I had 2 towers running 350 plus watt power supplies. My office was the hottest room in the house. Now today I could use that heat, however in July and August I'll pass. These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or cheap notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and keyboard with them. That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP server in a dev environment. Or add an external monitor, keyboard, and a mouse and you have two screens you can use. Not as nice as two large flat panel monitors, however not as much expense either. Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more powerful, I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev. Keith Smith --- On *Mon, 1/14/13, j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com* wrote: From: j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 3:58 PM Keith last wrote: That would work, however they cost more than a netbook. I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one of which I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I found on Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I think). They run absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is another still available (I think) on Craigslist for $150: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for backup. I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10. For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to big towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.orghttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am in dire need of a new machine. I'd like a new workstation, but a server is a must. This would be a great system for a LAMP box but sadly I wouldn't take an AMD system if it was given to me. I have tried so hard over the years to like AMD but it has never paid off. - From systems that would run so hot they could double as my gas furnace in the winter to systems that are so pathetically slow they aren't worth keeping around, and I'm talking about new systems! I recently bought a Turion 64 X2 and in the end gave Best Buy $150 bucks to take it back because it was awful. I had a Duron 350 once that rocked. It was cool and blew away every pentium processor I had at twice the speeds. AMD realized how fast they Duron line was, as it was killing the Athlons at the time, and they killed it off. Now the Duron lives on in the Turion series but they don't even compare. Am I just having bad luck with AMD or are others experiencing this? I seriously would like to know because I've seen some screaming deals on quad core and tri core machines I'd love to pick up, but seriously am too scared to lose the money on another piece of junk. I think I've had 6 AMDs in the last 15 years and have only been happy with 1. Intel on the other hand I've had dozens and loved them all... (except the celeron). Nathan On 1/15/2013 7:17 AM, Stephen wrote: It seems that HP agrees with your issues. and have made a low power server. 350 normally right now on sale for 320, and they give you an additional 50 rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052 I have no idea how reliable they are but if i had the money i would pick one up and find out what i can do with it. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com mailto:klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops. I had 2 towers running 350 plus watt power supplies. My office was the hottest room in the house. Now today I could use that heat, however in July and August I'll pass. These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or cheap notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and keyboard with them. That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP server in a dev environment. Or add an external monitor, keyboard, and a mouse and you have two screens you can use. Not as nice as two large flat panel monitors, however not as much expense either. Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more powerful, I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev. Keith Smith --- On *Mon, 1/14/13, j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com /j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com/* wrote: From: j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 3:58 PM Keith last wrote: That would work, however they cost more than a netbook. I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one of which I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I found on Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I think). They run absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is another still available (I think) on Craigslist for $150: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for backup. I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10. For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to big towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org http://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss - -- Regards, Nathan England ~ NME Computer Services http://www.nmecs.com Nathan England (nat...@nmecs.com) Systems Administration / Web Application
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
I have not had these issues. but i have not use their mobile processors in a long time. The 1090T i have is great. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am in dire need of a new machine. I'd like a new workstation, but a server is a must. This would be a great system for a LAMP box but sadly I wouldn't take an AMD system if it was given to me. I have tried so hard over the years to like AMD but it has never paid off. - From systems that would run so hot they could double as my gas furnace in the winter to systems that are so pathetically slow they aren't worth keeping around, and I'm talking about new systems! I recently bought a Turion 64 X2 and in the end gave Best Buy $150 bucks to take it back because it was awful. I had a Duron 350 once that rocked. It was cool and blew away every pentium processor I had at twice the speeds. AMD realized how fast they Duron line was, as it was killing the Athlons at the time, and they killed it off. Now the Duron lives on in the Turion series but they don't even compare. Am I just having bad luck with AMD or are others experiencing this? I seriously would like to know because I've seen some screaming deals on quad core and tri core machines I'd love to pick up, but seriously am too scared to lose the money on another piece of junk. I think I've had 6 AMDs in the last 15 years and have only been happy with 1. Intel on the other hand I've had dozens and loved them all... (except the celeron). Nathan On 1/15/2013 7:17 AM, Stephen wrote: It seems that HP agrees with your issues. and have made a low power server. 350 normally right now on sale for 320, and they give you an additional 50 rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052 I have no idea how reliable they are but if i had the money i would pick one up and find out what i can do with it. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com mailto:klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops. I had 2 towers running 350 plus watt power supplies. My office was the hottest room in the house. Now today I could use that heat, however in July and August I'll pass. These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or cheap notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and keyboard with them. That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP server in a dev environment. Or add an external monitor, keyboard, and a mouse and you have two screens you can use. Not as nice as two large flat panel monitors, however not as much expense either. Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more powerful, I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev. Keith Smith --- On *Mon, 1/14/13, j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com /j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com/* wrote: From: j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com mailto:j...@actionline.com Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 3:58 PM Keith last wrote: That would work, however they cost more than a netbook. I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one of which I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I found on Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I think). They run absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is another still available (I think) on Craigslist for $150: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for backup. I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10. For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to big towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org http://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have historically used laptops with the screens ripped off for servers and various remote workstations. Net Tops just seem perfect for what I want. Typically I can get more powerful guts for close to the same cost because I'm not paying for a screen, keyboard and mouse. But I really like the ability to leave the battery in. Up here in the woods we have problems with suicidal squirrels taking out transformers. And some days I feel like we are an APS testing town where they randomly turn off the power to see what will happen. Though I have everything on battery backup, sadly when power goes out my cable goes with it. That is the ONLY advantage DSL has over cable. At least here in APS testing town... On 1/14/2013 4:20 PM, keith smith wrote: Heat is one of the main reasons I went to laptops. I had 2 towers running 350 plus watt power supplies. My office was the hottest room in the house. Now today I could use that heat, however in July and August I'll pass. These net top computers are cool. I still like the netbooks or cheap notebooks though because you get a monitor, mouse, and keyboard with them. That makes them perfect for a simple LAMP server in a dev environment. Or add an external monitor, keyboard, and a mouse and you have two screens you can use. Not as nice as two large flat panel monitors, however not as much expense either. Once in a while I make the joke that if smart phones become more powerful, I might just use a couple of them for my LAMP dev. Keith Smith - -- Regards, Nathan England ~ NME Computer Services http://www.nmecs.com Nathan England (nat...@nmecs.com) Systems Administration / Web Application Development Information Security Consulting (480) 559.9681 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQ9c1xAAoJEGZV2y/ev1Zb34sIAI7eoROdgIYTZPQRQqSd7CyA XleXztZqVA5tWEXz7/uqAWzHGpDlZD5bgwgQ5s5FljH1+FQLbuJhzf+XS7Up+wQM 2C093wdc8Indwdse+RtCVpAcqknW62Fyp01C/qJQaOjGvm3nqv57iNitsLaRwDeJ DyR6obHSZZVOT5H5mUyYeeT9rlhwjXj/xpSmWPnBH9WL0uXTXFd0MlnVUyIPQy9u 8JUjNP8fSwNpacileUbzD7llQ33tfnOi35OVpTT+mJ9RD/I3hhFaNoeizi4RlkUz pzt9aGRf/rUv6RaSfzT+1XyIVE5iOzBv0KxWPEr2c6UzHdD6EAhW3kwky6h4EBs= =ONjG -END PGP SIGNATURE- 0xDEBF565B.asc Description: application/pgp-keys --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
And the battery in the laptop (if you leave it in, which I typically do) works as a battery backup should power go out... Net tops don't have that! Nathan On Monday, January 14, 2013 14:14:42 keith smith wrote: That would work, however they cost more than a netbook. Keith Smith --- On Mon, 1/14/13, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 2:50 PM sounds like a net top would be perfect for you then. they are a netbook without the keyboard battery and screen. install centos on it and leave it alone. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=nettopsSubmit=ENE On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: I think they have more value than just browsing the web. I am a LAMP dev. I use a cheap HP Laptop as my dev server. It is not much better than this Chromebook and I'm using a HP Pavilion g6 (cheap and on sale) for my workstation - very bottom of the line. For instance, a fellow PLUG member was walking me through setting up a virtual machine. He was using a netbook with the Intel chip that was prior to the Intel Atom N455 and he was beating me. I am running an AMD A4-3300 running at 1.9GHtz and 4GB RAM. I think his netbook was running at 1.3GHz and it probably had only 1GB RAM. I think these cheap Netbook are more powerful than they might seem. I would not use one if I were a designer because they might not have enough power. However I find them to be very useful and they are cheap. I know they are way more powerful than my old broken down 11 year old laptop running a 1Ghz Celeron w/256MB RAM. 2 years ago I loaded CentOS on it and configured it to run as a mail server using Qmail Toaster. It was only a test, however it ran just fine. I've been toying with configuring a Netbook as a public facing LAMP web server for testing. The Tucson Free Unix Group (TFUG) used a laptop for a couple years to serve their website. Not for an active website, however it worked just find. AND it served the mailing list. For me the computer is waiting most of the time for me to type so these small cheap computers work well. If I were compiling C or C++ all the time I would want something substantially faster, however I am not. Anyone else using Netbooks or cheap laptops in a production environment? Keith Smith --- On Mon, 1/14/13, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 12:02 PM The Pros are its cost/performance. They generally run very well for what they do. The battery life is pretty good also. The cons you cannot fall back to Firefox for sites that will not allow chrome, and you are using a small net-book that is 100% purpose built to run just a browser. Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal of functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my favorites of these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC clients as well. so in a pinch you can remote someplace and get something done.. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Thanks for sharing this, Keith. Seems like a Chromebook might be excellent for travel. One can readily see some good pros ... what are the cons? https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_acer_c710utm_campaign=enutm_source=en- ha-na-us-gdn-acerutm_medium=ha How superior is Intel Atom N455 dual core performance than Intel Celeron dual core? Seems like the Samsung Chromebook at $249 is better in a lot of ways. Longer battery life and perhaps better construction. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
Keith last wrote: That would work, however they cost more than a netbook. I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one of which I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I found on Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I think). They run absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is another still available (I think) on Craigslist for $150: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for backup. I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10. For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to big towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
Good point. I put my batteries in my desk drawer hoping for battery battery longevity. Keith Smith --- On Mon, 1/14/13, Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com wrote: From: Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 3:33 PM #yiv1440333832 p, #yiv1440333832 li {white-space:pre-wrap;} And the battery in the laptop (if you leave it in, which I typically do) works as a battery backup should power go out... Net tops don't have that! Nathan On Monday, January 14, 2013 14:14:42 keith smith wrote: That would work, however they cost more than a netbook. Keith Smith --- On Mon, 1/14/13, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 2:50 PM sounds like a net top would be perfect for you then. they are a netbook without the keyboard battery and screen. install centos on it and leave it alone. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=nettopsSubmit=ENE On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: I think they have more value than just browsing the web. I am a LAMP dev. I use a cheap HP Laptop as my dev server. It is not much better than this Chromebook and I'm using a HP Pavilion g6 (cheap and on sale) for my workstation - very bottom of the line. For instance, a fellow PLUG member was walking me through setting up a virtual machine. He was using a netbook with the Intel chip that was prior to the Intel Atom N455 and he was beating me. I am running an AMD A4-3300 running at 1.9GHtz and 4GB RAM. I think his netbook was running at 1.3GHz and it probably had only 1GB RAM. I think these cheap Netbook are more powerful than they might seem. I would not use one if I were a designer because they might not have enough power. However I find them to be very useful and they are cheap. I know they are way more powerful than my old broken down 11 year old laptop running a 1Ghz Celeron w/256MB RAM. 2 years ago I loaded CentOS on it and configured it to run as a mail server using Qmail Toaster. It was only a test, however it ran just fine. I've been toying with configuring a Netbook as a public facing LAMP web server for testing. The Tucson Free Unix Group (TFUG) used a laptop for a couple years to serve their website. Not for an active website, however it worked just find. AND it served the mailing list. For me the computer is waiting most of the time for me to type so these small cheap computers work well. If I were compiling C or C++ all the time I would want something substantially faster, however I am not. Anyone else using Netbooks or cheap laptops in a production environment? Keith Smith --- On Mon, 1/14/13, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 12:02 PM The Pros are its cost/performance. They generally run very well for what they do. The battery life is pretty good also. The cons you cannot fall back to Firefox for sites that will not allow chrome, and you are using a small net-book that is 100% purpose built to run just a browser. Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal of functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my favorites of these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC clients as well. so in a pinch you can remote someplace and get something done.. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Thanks for sharing this, Keith. Seems like a Chromebook might be excellent for travel. One can readily see some good pros ... what are the cons? https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_acer_c710utm_campaign=enutm_source=en-ha-na-us-gdn-acerutm_medium=ha How superior is Intel Atom N455 dual core performance than Intel Celeron dual core? Seems like the Samsung Chromebook at $249 is better in a lot of ways. Longer battery life and perhaps better construction. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
yes but Hulu is flash and that should work :-) On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: Bought the kids the new samsung chromebooks for christmas and they love em... the desktop now collects dust... The ARM chromebools still don't do netflix but oh well... James Finstrom Rhino Equipment http://rhinoequipment.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment Facebook: http://facebook.com/RhinoEquipment ಠ_ಠ ** On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Keith last wrote: That would work, however they cost more than a netbook. I have replaced my older tower computers with two of these, one of which I bought new for $349 a couple years ago, and the other I found on Craigslist for $150. They use only 8-watts of power (I think). They run absolutely silent and never get hot. Here is another still available (I think) on Craigslist for $150: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sys/3467164583.html One is now my main computer and the second is just a clone for backup. I'm just now converting them both to kubuntu 12.10. For personal use (except for gamers), I can't see any benefit to big towers with 200-watt or larger power supplies any more. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
Stephen wrote: ... [chromebooks] are 100% purpose built to run just a browser. Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal of functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my favorites of these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC clients as well. What is RDP? Would it be possible to install Linux on the Samsung chromebook? I've read that it is being done on the Acer C7 chromebook. Or could one boot Linux from a USB flash stick on the Samsung? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
The samsung chromebook runs a dual-core Exynos 5 processor (smartphone/tablet ARM 15 chip). It might be possible to get Linux running, but you need to get an ARM build. Also, there is a secure boot feature that may prevent running anything other than ChromeOS on the system (absent a risky unlock procedure). If you want to hack, then get the C7, which is far more amenable to being repurposed; the Samsung version really is intended as an appliance laptop. That said, I have the Samsung Chromebook, and it's a very nice tagalong device; not a primary device, but very good to take with me just about anywhere I might want to have a real keyboard and remote access, even when I'm not sure whether I'll use it or not. It's (almost) completely useless without WiFi, however (no wired port, and no cell option), so either have a mobile hotspot on hand or be sure there's WiFi available wherever it is you're going. On 01/14/2013 05:40 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Stephen wrote: ... [chromebooks] are 100% purpose built to run just a browser. Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal of functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my favorites of these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC clients as well. What is RDP? Would it be possible to install Linux on the Samsung chromebook? I've read that it is being done on the Acer C7 chromebook. Or could one boot Linux from a USB flash stick on the Samsung? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Has anyone here tried a Chromebook?
I haven't looked to see if the bootloader is unlockable on the chromebooks, but otherwise if so, it's really not typically risky. I've been romming/unlocking phones since winmo3/pre/early androids and never bricked a device that wasn't recoverable via a factory recovery means. Samsung is decent about providing unlock capability, so I would expect it is or will be unlockable by end-users as most of their modern devices are. Finding a rom that works on it, maybe not so much. Canonical ported an ubuntu to the nexus7, and later the gnex as ubuntu phone, but it's a matter of getting the system working with still somewhat irregular hardware quirks in each, including x with capable drivers for direct render hardware acceleration and multitouch. Native ubuntu on arm phone-ish devices is still a WIP. More easily you can usually get ubuntu to run externally atop the android kernel, and there's an app to guide you through setting it up in SD on play for ubuntu 10.04, 12.04, or backtrack5. I had 12.04 on my gnex for a bit, and would vnc to the desktop for use. A bit kludgy, but gave me some decent usability aside from unity itself being a pig and slowing the entire phone down. LXDE is a much better route I'd heard, but never got to try. I'm trying to find some time to set up ubuntu over android on my transformer prime infinity with the keyboard dock to see how my mileage is with it, but hit some quirks of cyanogenmod 10.1 on it. -mb On 01/14/2013 09:01 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: The samsung chromebook runs a dual-core Exynos 5 processor (smartphone/tablet ARM 15 chip). It might be possible to get Linux running, but you need to get an ARM build. Also, there is a secure boot feature that may prevent running anything other than ChromeOS on the system (absent a risky unlock procedure). If you want to hack, then get the C7, which is far more amenable to being repurposed; the Samsung version really is intended as an appliance laptop. That said, I have the Samsung Chromebook, and it's a very nice tagalong device; not a primary device, but very good to take with me just about anywhere I might want to have a real keyboard and remote access, even when I'm not sure whether I'll use it or not. It's (almost) completely useless without WiFi, however (no wired port, and no cell option), so either have a mobile hotspot on hand or be sure there's WiFi available wherever it is you're going. On 01/14/2013 05:40 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Stephen wrote: ... [chromebooks] are 100% purpose built to run just a browser. Within that there are a number of tools giving you a great deal of functionality inside the chrome browser as a plugin. One of my favorites of these is an SSH client. they also have RDP and VNC clients as well. What is RDP? Would it be possible to install Linux on the Samsung chromebook? I've read that it is being done on the Acer C7 chromebook. Or could one boot Linux from a USB flash stick on the Samsung? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss