Re: [PLUG] Software Freedom Camp (Diversity Edition)
Hi Pradeep, https://camp.fsci.in/ > > I request you all to widely publicize this camp amongst > school/college-going youngsters and otherwise too. > +1 -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.github.io ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Gratitude
Hi folks, I'm pretty sure most of us have heard the news of the maintainer of Curl receiving hate mail[1], by now. But, this incident shows the in general ingratitude that certain users show towards the free/open-source software that they use. Albeit, this kind of users are a very small minority, it shows that there is scope for improvement, in how we communicate the way open source works. Most live/prod systems that are running on linux, are an amalgamation of a multiple open-source projects and we cannot blame one for the failure of another, nor can we blame the incorrect use of a particular software because most things have very sensible default configs. When preparing such complicated prod environments, it makes sense to have an *open-source security check-list*. [1]: https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/02/19/i-will-slaughter-you/ -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.github.io ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Spaces (@TwitterSpaces)
Hi all, For a long time, I have had an idea, perhaps, more of a thought. What would a company be like if it were to open up its design process to the general public? What if literally anyone could pitch in ideas at any stage? We already have gitlab as one of the examples, a company trying to do something similar. While the world of open-source defines code sharing and documentation as the basis of actual sharing of ideas, but user feedback is also a form of contribution. Please check out the tweets by the new Twitter Spaces feature team, where they are openly sharing early UI designs. Working at a company which takes openness from an engineering practices perspective to such a level, is every open source enthusiasts dream job. If only more and more companies could do the same. Spaces (@TwitterSpaces) https://twitter.com/TwitterSpaces?s=03 Sometimes, 280 isn’t enough. Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download?s=13 -- Tejas Sanap https://whereistejas.github.io (whereistejas on Freenode) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Another virtual meet-up?
> > Hi, Seems so many virtual meets and webinars are going on... seems like people > are looking forward to a real life meet up. > Hope that can happen soon in near future. > I'm one of those people, too. Sadly, a bunch of us are not even in Pune. That's why a virtual meet-up. -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas) > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Another virtual meet-up?
Hey folks! I was wondering if we could have a virtual meet-up sometime next month? We can all just get together, talk about stuff, what we have all been doing... -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Some Vim goodness before the year comes to an end.
Hey, folks! I hope everyone is doing well and that all of you are healthy. I found this really great article on vim and I just couldn't resist sharing [1]. [1]: https://www.hillelwayne.com/post/intermediate-vim/ -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.github.io ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Group Registration for IRC channel
Hi All, On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 5:42 PM Dhanesh B. Sabane wrote: > I was wondering if PLUG should register as a group on Freenode and make > sure the #pluggies channel is managed by this "registered" group. I think it's a great idea. -- Tejas Sanap whereistejas.github.io (whereistejas on Freenode) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Rust in Linux kernel
Hi all, If anyone here has ever played with Rust they know that it is an interesting language which offers quite easy syntax. However, rust has very high ambitions. One of it's major goals, is to present itself as substitute language for C in the embedded world. For a few years, there also have been efforts to push rust code into the Linux kernel. Here [1] is a LWN article that gives a nice summary of where things stand currently. [1]: https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/829858/281103f9c6fd0dc2/ ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Screen tear issue
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 01:05:35PM +, sumanttulshibagw...@protonmail.com wrote: > Is there anyone who is using i3 on fedora and experiencing a screen tear? In my experience, which is quite extensive when it comes to getting i3 work on fedora with a nvidia GPU, is that screen tearing happens in the presence of: 1. incorrect driver installation, 2. having multiple versions of a driver installed at the same time, 3. having no driver at all. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.github.io ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] A new approach to managing meetups in PLUG
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 05:33:31PM +0530, Dhanesh B. Sabane wrote: > 2. Post a meetup, how can we efficiently share resources about the > meetup topic so that people can easily find them in one place instead > of sifting through the mail archives? > Should we have a single repository where all the content used in a talk is saved (for eg, slides, demos, code)? If anyone feels like contributing to how this should be done, feel free to join the git repo and comment on the following Merge Request: https://git.fosscommunity.in/plug/talks/-/merge_requests/1 > After a bit of discussion and trying to gather some inspiration from > the beautiful FOSS world, we decided to follow ILUG-D's approach of > managing talks/meetups over a git repository. The process here is to > create an issue for every topic that any member is interested in and > then arrange meetups as per the available list. Post the meetup, any > feedback and resources can be shared over the same issue on git and it > can then be closed as "Delivered". This also helps us track the topics > that we've already covered and ensures that every meetup is unique. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.github.io ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] PLUG Online Meetup - August Edition
Hi All, The PLUG meetup has started and all of you can participate through this link: https://meet.jit.si/PLUGAug2020 -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas on Freenode) whereistejas.github.io ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Let's have an online PLUG meet!
Hey, folks! On Sat 25 Jul, 2020, 3:19 PM Aniruddh Katkar, wrote: mIRC does appears to be available for only for windows.. What if I don't > have any windows machine available.. > You can always use HexChat. It is available on platforms and there is RevolutionIRC for Android. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Another great LaTeX resource.
Hey, folks! Here is a great beginner LaTeX resource [1]. I hope everyone is safe and at home. [1]: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-3-319-47831-9#about -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Blog post on animations using matplotlib
Hey, folks! I'm writing a blog series on how to make animations using `matplotlib`. It will be a three part series. I have just published the first part in the series on my blog. Here is the link: http://whereistejas.me/ The first part covers the difference between the object-oriented and pyplot interface. It serves as a mild introduction to the figure and axes objects. All comments and criticisms are welcome! Thank you! -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas on Freenode) http://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] IRC during an apocalypse
Hey, folks! (Warning: This is part-rant and part-opinion) Browsing through the IRC subreddit[1] I ran into an interesting list[2] of all the reasons why one should still use IRC. One of the reasons was that IRC is a protocol and all other mediums of communication are softwares or platforms. The IRC protocol is *always* going to be around. Slack or Discord or Skype may be gone some day, the IRC protocol will still be around, even if no one is using it. Another important part, is the extensively decentralised nature of IRC networks. The probability of an entire network falling apart is a really small one almost negligible. However, my favourite reason that the OP of that post mentioned is how easy it is to connect to an IRC network. One can do it using very poor or very old hardware or very weak network speed, and it will still function decently. This, I think, is very important in during an apocalypse. I think, we can count on IRC and Radio to have our backs in such a crisis. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/irc/ [2]: https://www.reddit.com/r/irc/comments/fd801p/10_reasons/?ref=share&ref_source=link -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] LaTeX: When to use it and when not to.
Hey, folks! I'm a big fan of LaTeX. Needless to say, I think LaTeX should be used for everything. I have even used it to write letters. However, sometimes, one can go too far. It must be remembered, that tools exist to solve problems, not the other way around. Here, I found a blog post, a research paper and a reddit discussion, discussing this exact issue. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/engineering/comments/evvqke/is_latex_worth_learning/ [2]: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0115069#abstract0 [3]: http://www.danielallington.net/2016/09/the-latex-fetish/ -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] The Linux Kernel Enters 2020 At 27.8 Million Lines In Git But With Less Developers For 2019
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 01:19:35PM +0530, Navin Dhanuka wrote: > Besides Linus Torvalds, the most prolific contributors to the kernel were > David S. Miller, Chris Wilson, YueHaibing, Christoph Hellwig, and Thomas > Gleixner. Linus doesn't write code, anymore. He only merges code into his git tree. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] 14th December Meetup Minutes of Meeting
Hey, folks! On Sat 14 Dec, 2019, 7:39 PM Apurva Pavaskar, wrote: > 1) Tejas gave a demo on "Docker" (strikeout XD) Podman and cgroups. > I had prepared a whole set of demos on podman and dockerfiles. I apologise, for the bad demos. I will share the demos I had prepared with everyone through a blog post. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] The current and future state of PLUG
Hey, folks! The following email may turn out to be a bit controversial. The current state of PLUG is not very bright. That is a fact. However, numerous members are taking efforts to revive PLUG from it's deep slumber, and are trying to bring it back to the center stage of the FOSS community in Pune. Plans must be made and adhered to. There must be a slightly strategic approach to how we conduct events. Talks must be planned such that not only do they benefit the FOSS community but which also, highlight PLUG and its activities. I believe, that it is important to know and understand the different opinions that people (within PLUG) have about our current and future state, as we plan on how and when PLUG will conduct meetups/events, next year. While it is not necessary that we all share the same sense of purpose, but being aware of motivations and expectations others have is always beneficial. Thus, I have prepared a questionnaire. ## The questionnaire 1. What do you think about the open source movement? 2. What do you think about the free software movement? 3. What do you think are the core principles of PLUG? 4. What do you think is the difference between the open source software movement and the free software movement? 5. What role does PLUG play in the context of the questions 1 - 4? 6. What role should PLUG play in the context of questions 1 - 4? 7. How do you think we can contribute *improvements* to the community? By *improvements* I mean, documentation, blogs, commenting on issues and code. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Chicken soup for open-source licenses.
Hey, folks! What gives FOSS its super powers? Licensing is the cornerstone upon which the world of FOSS stands. But, very few of us, understand how they work, and what each license means. However, this knowledge is important, not only from a developer perspective but also for the end-user. Here is a great article on open-source licenses [1]. [1]: https://resources.whitesourcesoftware.com/blog-whitesource/open-source-licenses-comparison-guide -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] cgroups and /sys/ folder structure
Hey! On Wed 4 Dec, 2019, 11:14 PM Ashish Ghodake, wrote: > forms the base idea of containers along with chroot > The funny thing is I came across these articles while trying to solve an issue that is preventing me from running docker containers. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] cgroups and /sys/ folder structure
Hey, folks! There is an excellent series of articles about `cgroups` on LWN[1]. The series consists of 6 articles. For those who do not know what `cgroup` is, it is a linux utility that allows you to enforce rules on groups of processes, thus, allowing you to control how these groups (and, processes) utilize resources. *I would advise reading the second article[2] thoroughly*. It gives a detailed overview of the /sys/ folder. [1]: https://lwn.net/Articles/604609/ -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Fwd: [Kernel-meetup] Reserved-bit closing this month
Sad to see this happening. -- Forwarded message - From: Siddhesh Poyarekar Date: Mon 2 Dec, 2019, 10:05 AM Subject: [Kernel-meetup] Reserved-bit closing this month To: Kernel Meetup Pune Hello, It was a very tough decision to make, but we have finally decided to shut down reserved-bit at the end of this year. The following blog post is the official announcement: https://reserved-bit.com/2019/12/02/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-fish/ This also means that the reserved-bit meetup group will close down soon as well. We have reached out to a couple of people to see if we can move our meetup announcements to a different group but for now, if you're not on the kernel meetup mailing list: http://lists.reserved-bit.com/listinfo.cgi/kernel-meetup-reserved-bit.com you'll likely miss announcements for future meetups. I will keep the list posted on migration plans. Siddhesh ___ Kernel-meetup mailing list kernel-mee...@lists.reserved-bit.com http://lists.reserved-bit.com/listinfo.cgi/kernel-meetup-reserved-bit.com -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] December-2019 Meetup
Hey, folks! This email will be short and precise. I'm proposing a meetup on the *14th of December*. The *timing* of meetup can be between *2pm-5pm*. We can have a talk on *Containers/Dockers*. The talk will cover the basics of dockers and dockerfiles. We already have a speaker. gauravsitlani has volunteered to give a talk. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim
Hey! On Sun 1 Dec, 2019, 12:35 AM Dhanesh B. Sabane, wrote: > Hey Tejas, > > Can we do it a bit later? Like 21st December maybe? :P > I think it's best not to plan anything between 21st-31st. Most people have other plans, some even have to go back to their hometowns. But, if everyone agrees with the 21st, I have no issues. Shall we do a head count? The most important thing is that we conduct a meetup before this year ends. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim
-- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me On Sun 1 Dec, 2019, 12:35 AM Dhanesh B. Sabane, wrote: > Hey Tejas, > > Can we do it a bit later? Like 21st December maybe? :P > I think, it's best not to plan between 20th-31st. Since, some people have to go home back to their hometown. But, if that's what everyone agrees to the 21st, I have no problem with that. Should we do a head count? The most important thing is that we conduct a meetup before this year ends. > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] The sale of .org domain
Hey, folks! If you have any connection to the world of NGO's, you must by, now, be aware of the great scam that has occured regarding the `.org` registry. The tl;dr version of the story is that three not-for-profit organisations sold the `.org` registry to a private equity firm. Disclaimer: I don't know if the registry laws in the US are different from India or any other part of the world. I don't know if, this sale has any effect whatsoever on .org websites which are registered out of the US. That being said, recently we have seen a trend of Western atrocities finding their to the Indian subcontinent. There is a bit of back story to this incident. A few months ago, the ICANN removed all caps on the registration prices of the `.org` domain. This decision was widely unpopular and frowned upon. The `.org` registry is managed by PIR, which has as it's ICANN parent body. Both, PIR and ICANN are not-for-profit organisations. A few days ago, PIR, announced that it had sold `.org` registry and as a result of this sale was going to convert to for-profit organisation. I will reiterate the fact that, today the `.org` is synonymous to NGOs, educational institutes, FOSS projects, and other institutes of non-commercial nature. There are two concerns here: 1. Should the `.org` registry be managed by a for-profit firm? 2. Who will make sure that the private firm will not strong-arm the `.org` clients, by hiking prices or some other means? This incident, is just one of the many, where we see a private body, which is completely opaque, seize control of what should, rightfully, be public-property. Proprietary software, which is one of the many ways, in which capitalism has manifested itself in our society, threatens our most fundatemental right, the Right to Freedom.[5] The internet, is a safe public place, for people and organisation to display their opinions. It must remain like that. If, you are in a position of influence, I suggest checking out [0]. [0]: https://savedotorg.org/ [1]: https://drewdevault.com/2019/11/29/dotorg.html [2]: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2019/11/isoc-pir-ethos-capital-deal-timeline/ [3]: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/ [4]: http://blogs.harvard.edu/sj/2019/11/23/a-tale-of-icann-and-regulatory-capture-the-dot-org-heist/ [5]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_Rights,_Directive_Principles_and_Fundamental_Duties_of_India -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim
Hey, folks! On Thu 28 Nov, 2019, 11:13 AM Sudhanwa Jogalekar, wrote: > Haven't seen the old timers in real world in many years!! Let's meet in > this year itself during some PLUG meeting. > > What you guys say?? > -sudhanwa > We can certainly do that! Does the next Saturday (7th of December) work for everyone? We can meet somewhere between 2-5pm? -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:35:58AM +0530, Gaurav Pant wrote: > > Long time no see of use of abbr. Took some time to fine out: *IME means "*In > My Experience" > :D Haha... I had to google to it, too. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim
On Mon 25 Nov, 2019, 10:37 PM Shridhar Daithankar, < ghodech...@ghodechhap.net> wrote: > IME the situation is not that rosy. People cannot read/write a single > line of code, if they don't have an IDE. They don't understand the > working of IDE or the tools offered by it either. > The question most people ask is if it is worth the time and efforts it takes to set up everything on their own. They see no value in knowing how the gears and springs in their watches work, as long as it's hands are ticking. It is on par with a superstition now. > -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Editable PDFs - Does the world need them?
On Mon 25 Nov, 2019, 12:27 PM AlphaOmega, wrote: > Umm, probably not in a WYSIWY-edit way but PDFs are editable via LaTeX > (and similar TypeScript wrappers). Anyone tried that before? > Yes. It is possible to a certain extent using the document conversion utility called "pdftotext" [1]. However, LaTeX is another battle to fight. If converting a document in one format to another format, is something you do on a regular basis, I suggest, checking out pandoc [2][3]. [1]: https://www.xpdfreader.com/pdftotext-man.html [2]: https://pandoc.org/diagram.jpg [3]: https://pandoc.org/ -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim
Hey, folks! As the world rides the "VS Code" wave and it's extensive list of extensions that are easy to set up and even easier to configure, some of us, stick to the Old Way of Vim. However, as effective as vi/vim may be, it presents a considerable learning curve, especially, to the novice command line user, it just seems too much to handle all at once and thus, they either move to "nano" or abandon command line text editors, altogether. But, the vim community, offers great documentation and there are tons of blogs written by vim-users, all over the internet. Captain Pike, from the USS Enterprise, once said, "the best way to swim in a cold stream, is to jump right in", and it is also true in the case of vim. Using vim for all your editing tasks, is the fastest way to learn and the easiest way to appreciate vim. The best source of vim-related things is the "r/vim"[3] sub-reddit. The best place to clarify your vim doubts, is the #vim IRC channel. The best collection of vim-hacks for the most common issues realated to vim is, the vim-wikia[4]. The most accurate, detailed and dependable source of information for any vim feature is the "in-built" documentation[5]. The links [1] and [2] are good beginner resources. [1]: https://kadekillary.work/post/learn-vim/ [2]: http://vimcasts.org/ [3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/vim/ [4]: https://vim.fandom.com/wiki/ [5]: https://www.vim.org/docs.php -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Editable PDFs - Does the world need them?
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 08:22:58PM +0530, Mayuresh wrote: > I consider it a feature rather than a problem! > > Many WYSWYG editors and typesetting systems support generation of pdf, > distributed copies of it need not (and preferably should not be) editable. +1 > E.g. see what happens to forms that are distributed in WYSWYG format vs in > pdf form as people `fill' them. > > On the other hand I am pretty much ok with the idea of `fillable' pdf > which retains the basic form and allows users to enter the data fields > that are filled at the right places without disturbing the broader > structure of the document. To be honest, even though, I would really love to have editable pdfs, I am very skeptical of, how anyone can manage to get the typesetting right for an "edited" pdf. Especially, in the case of tables and diagrams, the task seems to be almost impossible. But, at the same time, having an editable pdf, will it make it a lot easier to copy-paste text and diagrams, from a pdf. That, in itself, is a great reason. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] PLUG mini-meetup || DistroWars
Hey, folks! A lot of interesting things have been happening in the world of open-source, lately, as always. We constantly keep running into more and more open-source projects that were once pet-projects, but are now rivalling enterprise-grade products. This is most true in the case of, Desktop Distributions. 2017 may not have turned to be the year of the Linux Desktop, as was once prophesied, but it seems to be very close, now. Thus, a few of us, enthusiasts and stout followers of certain Linux distributions are gathering to talk (and, argue) which one is the best. But, the question of the best Linux distribution has numerous sides, and we invite you to join the discussion (and, war). Some people from the PLUG community are meeting tomorrow at Sambhaji Park (near, Balgandharva) at 10AM. If you are a Linux beginner or enthusiast or expert, I urge you to join us (I, personally, want to get to know more about BSD-based distros). The whole thing will be informal and laid back. Feel free to ping me if you have any questions or doubts! -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Editable PDFs - Does the world need them?
Hey, folks! The PDF file format is ubiquitous nowadays and there are very good reasons behind it. It fits in every format of information, it's space-efficient and with item, the surrounding ecosystem has adapted to it very well. Except, one tiny issue, editing PDFs. If one were to make PDFs freely editable[1], what would they gain? What are I thoughts on this matter? I, personally, believe that having an universal, freely-editable file format based on an open standard, is an essential part of our software freedom. [1]: https://editablepdf.org/ -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] October PLUG meetup
Oops. Sorry. `msmtp` can sometimes act out. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] October PLUG meetup
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:15:43PM +0530, Inkar Nation wrote: > Bad planning :-) Ouch. > > Drawing conclusions faster than necessary... Conclusions about how many people would attend? -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] October PLUG meetup
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, 13:42 Sudhanwa Jogalekar, wrote: > That's Diwali festival days !! > I doubt if anyone will be available. > I agree. This occurred to me after I had sent the email. We can't prepone it because of the elections. So, the only option that remains is to postpone the meetup to November. _ > plug-mail mailing list > plug-mail@plug.org.in > http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] October PLUG meetup
Hey, folks! PLUG is planning to conduct a meetup on the *28th of October*. As of now, no topics/talks have been finalized. This email is a call/invitation for interested folks to get in touch with us and share their ideas. All members of PLUG and non-members, are most welcome to give a talk. You can get in touch with us by replying to this email or through the IRC channel #pluggies on Freenode. We have seen a steady growth in number of consistent members on our IRC channel. I will urge all members of PLUG to join the IRC channel. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Meeting logs for discussions held on 12th Sept, 2019 on #pluggies
Hey, folks! I have uploaded the logs of the discussion we had on #pluggies on 12th September. This is the discussion that I summarized in this email [1] on the mailing list. The logs can be found at this repository [2] that I maintain, so that those of us who couldn't attend the meetings can at least read through the logs and catch up in a more detailed manner, than the summary emails can provide. [1]: https://list.plug.org.in/pipermail/plug-mail/2019-September/011516.html [2]: https://github.com/whereistejas/plug-meetings/blob/master/IRC-logs/team-meeting-2019-09-12.log -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] 21st September Meet-up Details
Good morning, folks! This will be a quick and short summary of the discussion that happened last night on #pluggies. I want to thank all of those present, for taking out time from their busy schedules to participate in the meetup discussion. The meetup duration was set to approx. 3 ~ 3½ hours. There will be three talks: 1. A talk on how awesome (neo)vim is by me. 2. An introduction to blender by Gaurav Pant. 3. A talk on Free Software. As always, I will request more PLUG members to participate in the discussion through the mailing list or through the IRC channel. The more, the merrier. -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] 21st September Meet-up - Planning and Ideas
Greetings, folks! First of all, I'm really happy about the response I have receieved from various people on the * Why folks using IRC are against "cool" and "new" features? * thread. After reading all of your thoughts, I realised that there are numerous perspectives to that problem, that I was blind to before and failed to take into account. The choice of a "communication tool" is highly subjective and greatly, depends on the culture and practices of each unique project. Now, coming to the 21st September meet-up. Purnesh (werper|m) and Dhanesh (dhanesh|m) spent a while, last night discussing the upcoming meetup. Following is the summary of that discussion: Basic assumptions on the basis of previous discussions[1]: 1. The meetup will be a full-day workshop (approx. 5 hours). 2. The meetup location will have good internet access. 3. Each participant will be carrying his/her own laptop and have a working linux distribution installed. While discussing what sort of workshops/talks should be conducted, we followed the basic guideline of "beginner-friendly" topics. We thought we should begin the event by a from an open-source contributor or package maintainer on "How to contribute to Open-Source". We are open to all kinds of suggestions and speakers on this talk. If you think, you want to give this kind-of talk or know someone who can, please get in touch with us. We are hoping to make this the "keynote" of our meet-up. We also came up with a few ideas for various workshops: 1. A git workshop - End to end work cycle 2. Static Website Generator workshop - Build your own website/blog and host on git{hub,lab} 3. A Vim workshop 4. A regular expressions workshop 5. A contribution sprint - some form of documentation To end the event, we thought we could showcase some cool FOSS that are little known or FOSS that can be used as alternatives to our daily proprietary software. In this particular section, we can do all kinds of things like show apps from F-Droid[2] (the open-source playstore for Android) or invite the participants to show which FOSS apps they use on a daily basis, which deserve more attention. The complete logs of the discussion we had can be found at [3]. [1]: https://list.plug.org.in/pipermail/plug-mail/2019-August/subject.html [2]: https://f-droid.org/en/ [3]: https://github.com/whereistejas/plug-meetings/blob/master/IRC-logs/team-meetings-2019-09-06.log -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Why folks using IRC are against "cool" and "new" features?
On Thu, 5 Sep 2019, 10:50 Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे, wrote: > > as their editors, but the students never leave the "INSERT" mode. >> > > Really? 🤔 > They use arrow keys and backspace key. -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas) > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Why folks using IRC are against "cool" and "new" features?
On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 03:33:49PM +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019, 15:08 Vishal Rao wrote: > > > IRC is kind of "stateless", right? Meaning you have to stay logged in to > > not miss any messages? If I log out and log back in later on, I miss all > > the messages that were posted in the interim? That is the main reason I > > stopped using IRC and prefer email mailing lists or online forum discussion > > platforms or things like Slack where you can see the messages even if you > > log out and log back in later on. Or, you can use a terminal-based IRC client like irssi or weechat and log in on a server using tmux. Next time, tmux attach and tmux detach. Simple. You never have to log out. > There's IRC bouncers which can be configured to enable the kind of > "presence" which you point out. Those are usually additional services - > either to be paid for, or, configured. Email continues to be a resilient The main takeaway from the whole IRC/ZNC vs. Slack coversation, or rather any software solution on Linux vs. On Mac/Windows, is that in the latter case things "just work". Whereas, in the former case, you require a bit of tweaking and hacking. This is the point where things go sour for many users. As enthusiasts, we love a new challenge and throw ourselves at it. But, a normal user only wants to do his work. To be honest, I have given this topic a lot of thought, and the only way to convince people to go with FOSS/Linux solutions, is to show them in person how to do things. As an example, I would suggest setting up "polybar". It's a custom status bar that many people use alongside their minimalistic window managers (like i3 or dwm). If, one wished to approach this task on their own, it is highly likely that they would give up. But, if someone has access to an in-depth and at the same time, easy tutorial such as [1] and [2]... It will be a different story. > Slack and others don't lend themselves well to highly threaded or, long > form conversations. List software such as Mailman are also adding > enhancements which cater to some of the requirements around ease of > conversations. There are a lot of interesting features in ZNC. For example, it will automatically (and, temporarily) detach from an "inactive" channel. Or, it allows for maintaining seperate buffers, channel-list for different devices. But, such features, are rarely advertised. I maybe wrong here, but, as a "Linux Users Group" we should be helping such projects "bridge the gap" between normal users and themselves. Like, I know so many college "CS/IT" courses where students use vi/vim as their editors, but the students never leave the "INSERT" mode. I mean, that's just sad. [1]: https://youtu.be/7RNgpvBMua0 [2]: https://youtu.be/OIjwl0MjfBA -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Why folks using IRC are against "cool" and "new" features?
Hey, folks! I use plain IRC and for some reason that I can't explain, love it's simplicity. I ran into a blog post today, that presented some interesting perspectives on IRC and similar protocols (Matrix). https://drewdevault.com/2019/07/01/Absence-of-features-in-IRC.html I guess, IRC is an example of the "less is better, more is worse" case. I would love to hear some of your point-of-views. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Meeting to discuss the 21st Sept Meetup at 8PM tonight on #pluggies
Good Evening! First of all let me apologize for the last-minute notification for this meeting. If, you have been following the mailing list, then you must be aware of the fact that we are planning for a meetup on the 21st September. A bunch of us will be gathering tonight on the #pluggies channel on Freenode. Those of us, who are unable to join us, but wish to, please suggest a time and date, and we will work things out. Or, you can tell us your ideas on the mailing list. We are very excited about the next meetup, and thus, welcome all forms of suggestions and ideas. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Joining IRC channels using Riot/Matrix (and some IRC tips)
Good morning folks, On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 09:30:32AM +0530, Amey Abhyankar wrote: > We need to find a solution which is user friendly I think user-friendly is a relative term. Setting up IRC on an android device is no different than setting up whatsapp or telegram. I know people who think using irssi through ssh on their android phones is not difficult, either. I think, what is lacking is *good tutorials*. > which will not use too much resources on mobile > phone/laptop/desktop/IoT devices etc. A normal ZNC instance for 25~30 people can run comfortably on a Pi. > Many organisations,banks,payment companies use whatsapp/wechat/telegram. > Is there any reason why we don't want to opt for these services? They are not FOSS nor do they care about our privacy. > Keeping in mind that we are not going to discuss anything very > confidential, above options may serve the purpose. As members of PLUG, and using tools to do "PLUG" work, we are *obligated* to use tools that are FOSS. I think, due to the great influx of new users to linux in the past 2~3 years, has given a boost to the use of proprietary software on the linux platform. We can see this clearly with how many distributions now provide proprietary softwares in their official repositories. I won't deny the fact that many FOSS projects lack the finishing touches that proprietary softwares have. > There will be decline in adopting odd solutions like Riot/ZNC until > they are fully mature enough. ZNC is mature and stable. It has been in development for the last 15 years (since 2004). Please check out: https://wiki.znc.in/Providers to see how companies and IRC networks are deploying ZNC on large scales. We fail to percieve those solutions as "mature" because they are not marketed to us in that manner. In terms of support, ZNC has great community support. I can vouch for that. > We wont be seeing any new users at Riot/ZNC sadly. I couldn't agree more but that's why we must increase our efforts to bring people to IRC instead of opting for other platforms. > I did a quick survey recently and figured out 99% IT newbies are not > aware about IRC nor they use it :-) This again brings us back to the good tutorials issue. I think this is a point where the folks at `hashtag dgplug` should be commended. Their insistance on the whole "learn from blogs and blog to teach" model is the right way to solve this problem. If, you find that using a software is tricky, share whatever you have found through a blog. Even, if you don't actually manage to get the software working. What is more amazing is that they have proven it works. I know CS and IT graduates who don't how to open terminals in linux and think that "ubuntu" is "linux" (and, yes, they score very-well in their exams). > Same for IT techies working at fancy MNC's at Hinjewadi/EON IT Park. > They use meetup.com aggressively. Yes, that's just sad. But, no good alternatives exist for meetup.com. A similar issue can be found with youtube. # Conclusion In the end, a "normal Joe" will look for convinience and will want tools that "just work". But, how can we make softwares that are seemingly difficult easy? I would give you the example of NeoMutt. Lord knows, configuring neomutt for the first time is a nasty experience. The linux youtuber Luke Smith, solved this problem by creating a installation wizard for neomutt. You can find it here: https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/mutt-wizard (Yes, I am a Luke Smith fanboi). "All good things take time" -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Want to host your IRC nicks on ZNC?
Hey folks! This email will be short and quick. Yesterday, me and mr_cool (on #pluggies, Freenode) managed to set up a ZNC instance. We are running ZNC version 1.6.6 on an Ubuntu 18 AWS instance. I managed to set up a sample user for you to test and play with. The webadmin page can be found at: https://18.188.122.29:1234/ You can log in using the following credentials: Username: joey Password: howyoudoin *Please, don't delete any certificates or disable any modules that have already been checked. Other than that, feel free to mess around. * To use it in your IRC client, the following settings should be used: Nick: pluggies-znc Server: 18.188.122.29 Port: 1234 TLS: On Password: joey/freenode:howyoudoin The nick `pluggies-znc` is using *SASL to connect to the freenode* server. By default you will join a channel called #pluggies-unregistered. You will find me there. You can ping me and say hi. I would like to mention and thank MetaNova from the #znc channel, who helped me set up SASL on ZNC. As of now, we will be running this ZNC instance on a trial basis. If you want to be a part of this project, email me at sanap.te...@gmail.com or message on IRC. We will be hosting nicks for no costs at all, during this trial. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Joining IRC channels using Riot/Matrix (and some IRC tips)
Hey, folks! On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 11:18:28AM +0530, Amey Abhyankar wrote: > If I hit 'LOG IN' button it keeps trying to login but nothing happens. > I was able to sign in before using 'custom server options'. > Anybody facing same problem today? > > I tried to login using other combinations i.e. I keep identity server > same is custom server but same issue. > Tried to put my registered e-mail address at matrix as well. Seeing how users are running into some sort of trouble, every now and then, with Matrix, some of us on #pluggies are thinking of setting up a public ZNC instance. Obviously, the costs will be split even amongst all users. But, if enough of us, get together, the cost per person would be trivial. Also, ZNC will give you almost-God-like control over your IRC accounts. If, anyone is interested, please reply to this thread or drop us a message on #pluggies. For those who don't know, ZNC *functionality can be extended* by writting our own modules. APIs in C++, python, perl and Tcl are available. I suggest you to take a look at: https://wiki.znc.in/Category:Modules ZNC offers a `webadmin` module. It is a simple, easy-to-use, web UI that allows admins and users to manage users and change their ZNC settings. More importantly, it can be set up such that, an user can access it from anywhere, like a normal website. ZNC does a lot more than simply providing IRC persistence. It supports multiple users, networks and clients. It has SSL support. Also, ZNC has great community support at the #znc channel on Freenode. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] PLUG Meetup : August Edition
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, 12:43 Gaurav Pant, wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest that we plan for Software freedom day. This time it falls on > 21st September 2019. > > We can go ahead with a full day event. > I think that's a great idea. We can hold a workshop for engineering students or similar kind-of audience. Engaging with college students to promote open-source technologies like *tor/IRC* or softwares like *GIMP/kdenlive* or a workshop based on *bash-scripting* will benefit everyone. We can also conduct a Capture-the-Flag activity. > Today is 12th, this gives us more than a month to go ahead with the event, > promotion, looking for speakers and workshop etc. > Python Pune is also planning for similar activities next month. Perhaps, we can propose a collaborative event? This will help us gain access to a larger and more diverse audience. -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas on Freenode) > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] PLUG Meetup : August Edition
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 09:05:46PM +0530, rajudev wrote: > I wish I would have taken an Emacs talk/workshop as a successor to this > meetup. :) I may be a vim fanatic, but I would definitely like to see an emacs talk. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) whereistejas.github.io ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] PLUG Meetup : August Edition
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019, 21:40 Ashish Ghodake, wrote: > ok. > Could you please send me the channel details? > You will have to connect to the Freenode IRC network and join the channel #pluggies. You need to be a registered and verified user to join this channel. If this is your first time using IRC I suggest you to refer to this: https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/irc.html#hexchat If you are using a service like Matrix, you can refer to this: https://list.plug.org.in/pipermail/plug-mail/2019-July/011441.html If you have any other questions please let me know and I will try to help you out. -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas on Freenode) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] PLUG Meetup : August Edition
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019, 21:16 Ashish Ghodake, wrote: > Hello everyone, > Looking forward for my first meetup with you guys. > The topics for this meetup are awesome and we could also have discussion > about social engineering in the security section. > Suraj (surajmishra|m) is working on that particular topic. You should totally get in touch with him. Also, you can join the IRC channel and share your ideas with the rest of the group. The live chat nature of IRC is great for discussing such topics. -- Tejas Sanap (whereistejas on Freenode) > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Post-Meetup Introspection on 25th July, 8 PM IST at #pluggies
Dear all, I think, the best way to bring people onto IRC is do a small session on the next meetup, where everyone can create IRC nicks together and join the #pluggies channel. Freenode has tons of nice channels, we can discuss some popular ones, too. > 1. What went as planned? I think, over-all the meetup went smoothly, considering that this was the first time some of us were organizing a meetup. The CTF activity was very fun. The cake was delicious. > 2. What didn't go as planned? There are two things that stood out: 1. Internet accessibility - Those of us on the #pluggies channel were already aware of this as dhanesh95 had mentioned it in one of the team meetings. However, if internet is required, we should mention this in the meetup description, so that the participants can be prepared. 2. Some of the participants didn't have laptops or couldn't find charging spots > 3. What could we have done better? I want to apologize for being late. It won't happen again. If we are going to cut cakes or have some sort of food, we should arrange for paper plates. I think, the most effective stratergy for food is to not have it or use food tokens that can be used in a canteen as Dexter mentioned in a conversation after the meetup. > 4. General feedback I think for the next meetup, we should open a github page or some sort of form where people can give proposals. That's all from my side. Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Post-Meetup Introspection on 25th July, 8 PM IST at #pluggies
Dear all, I want to thank and congratulate all the participants and organizers for a wonderful meetup (20th July, 2019). The CTF activity by Gaurav (gauravsitlani) and Yadnya (ytale) was a great oppurtunity to use the commands that I had discussed in my talk. The cake-cutting provided an oppurtunity for the participants to talk to each other. It was the suggestion of Dhanesh (dhanesh95) that we should hold a meeting to introspect how the meetup went. All participants and members are welcome to join this discussion, to share their experiences and ideas. In particular, we want to discuss what things went right, what went wrong and such. The discussion is supposed to happen on #pluggies IRC channel on *Saturday, 27nd July at 8 PM IST*. If this timing/date is unsuitable for you, please reply to this email so that we can set an appropriate timing. If you need help on how to join IRC, please reply to this email and I will share the appropriate links. Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] plug-mail Digest, Vol 54, Issue 18
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Re: [PLUG] test mail
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Re: [PLUG] Guild Meeting Summary - 2019-07-10
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019, 09:26 Gaurav Pant, wrote: > Hi Inline, > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:42 PM Tejas Sanap > wrote: > >> Topic - Discussion related to the upcoming 20th July Meetup >> >> Participants - >> abhyankar[m]1 >> dhanesh95|m >> gauravsitlani >> whereistejas >> werper >> >> Conclusions - >> >> 1. The meetup is to be on the *20th July, Saturday* at *COEP* >> (tentatively). >> > > Great!! > > >> 2. The meetup is to be conducted from *10 ~ 12 AM*. >> > Could be nice if it is from 11 Onwards. (no problem with 10 to 12 also) > > >> 3. The meetup will involve *four activities*: >> 1. "Important terminal commands" talk by whereistejas >> Duration - 45 minutes. >> 2. "Capture the Flag" activity by gauravsitlani >> Duration - 45 minutes. >> 3. "Customising bash/zsh/fish shell" talk by dhanesh95 >> Duration - 30 minutes. >> 4. Cake cutting to celebrate release of Debian Buster >> 4. The *estimated* contribution per person for all expenses will be below >> ₹150. >> > > No suitable, PLUG meets are always free of cost. This has to be managed in > some other way. > The contribution is from the side of the organisers. The organisers will be contributing to buy the stickers and the cake. > >> 5. The latest version of the Meetup poster can be found at: >> https://cloud.disroot.org/apps/gallery/s/DmwkmG5WbEDtSc9 >> ( Thank you, werper, for an amazing poster! ) >> > > Would like to know what tool and platform was used for designing this > poster?? > > >> This concludes the major points discussed in the meeting. >> >> To register for the meetup please add your name to the following >> document: >> https://etherpad.net/p/PLUG_Meetup_20-07-2019_Attendees >> >> Other information about the meetup not mentioned in this email can be >> found at: >> https://pad.disroot.org/p/PLUG_Meetup_Ideas >> >> The logs of the meeting can be found at: >> https://github.com/whereistejas/plug-meetings >> >> I urge all members of PLUG to join the IRC channel #pluggies on >> Freenode. The next weekly Guild Meeting will be held on the *13th July, >> Saturday* at *8 PM IST*. >> >> Tejas Sanap. >> (whereistejas) >> ___ >> plug-mail mailing list >> plug-mail@plug.org.in >> http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail >> > > > Regards > -- > Dexter > --- > http://OpenSourceCook.in > If you can cook, you can code. > ___ > plug-mail mailing list > plug-mail@plug.org.in > http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail > ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Guild Meeting Summary - 2019-07-10
Topic - Discussion related to the upcoming 20th July Meetup Participants - abhyankar[m]1 dhanesh95|m gauravsitlani whereistejas werper Conclusions - 1. The meetup is to be on the *20th July, Saturday* at *COEP* (tentatively). 2. The meetup is to be conducted from *10 ~ 12 AM*. 3. The meetup will involve *four activities*: 1. "Important terminal commands" talk by whereistejas Duration - 45 minutes. 2. "Capture the Flag" activity by gauravsitlani Duration - 45 minutes. 3. "Customising bash/zsh/fish shell" talk by dhanesh95 Duration - 30 minutes. 4. Cake cutting to celebrate release of Debian Buster 4. The *estimated* contribution per person for all expenses will be below ₹150. 5. The latest version of the Meetup poster can be found at: https://cloud.disroot.org/apps/gallery/s/DmwkmG5WbEDtSc9 ( Thank you, werper, for an amazing poster! ) This concludes the major points discussed in the meeting. To register for the meetup please add your name to the following document: https://etherpad.net/p/PLUG_Meetup_20-07-2019_Attendees Other information about the meetup not mentioned in this email can be found at: https://pad.disroot.org/p/PLUG_Meetup_Ideas The logs of the meeting can be found at: https://github.com/whereistejas/plug-meetings I urge all members of PLUG to join the IRC channel #pluggies on Freenode. The next weekly Guild Meeting will be held on the *13th July, Saturday* at *8 PM IST*. Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Reminder for Guild Meeting at 8 PM IST at #pluggies
Dear all, This email is to remind anyone who wants to participate of the Guild Meeting at *8 PM IST* *tonight* on #pluggies IRC channel. The topic of discussion will be the upcoming meetup on the *21st July*. If anyone needs help connecting to IRC refer: If anyone needs help connecting to IRC through Matrix: 1. Refer Amey Abhyankar's guidelines mentioned in this email: https://list.plug.org.in/pipermail/plug-mail/2019-July/011441.html https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Guide:-How-to-use-Matrix-to-participate-in-IRC-rooms 2. https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/irc.html Looking forward to see all of you at Guild Meeting! Tejas Sanap (whereistejas) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] [Guide] How to join #Pluggies at IRC using Riot app on Android/iOS phone
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:44:39AM +0530, Amey Abhyankar wrote: > Hello All, > > The goal: Join #Pluggies channel at IRC from Android/iOS phones using > Riot app for easy to communicate with fellow #Pluggies > > Here are the steps = > > 1) Register nick at IRC = https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration > 2) From any web browser go to https://webchat.freenode.net/ and login > using your registered IRC nick > 3) Download & Start Riot app in your Android phone > 4) Now from web browser [suggested method] go to > https://riot.im/app/#/welcome and register [Yes more registrations] > 5) Now using new matrix ID, login to riot app > 6) At bottom of Riot app click on '#' sign at top and type freenode > 7) Select 'Freenode IRC Bridge status' > 8) Now click on human face icon next to '#' to left side not the 1 on > right hand side. > 9) Search for NickServ > 10) Now open NickServ's chat window and type following command = > IDENTIFY& hit enter key [Without the <> tags > and hit SPACE between user name & password] > 11) Now join Pluggies channel from Riot app & notice the Pluggies > channel you joined from web-browserpluggies > > Enjoy! > > FYI: There might be some simplified process/way. I don't no. I used > above steps. Above steps are given in very detailed for everybody's > understanding. Specially those who don't no anything about IRC & > Riot/Matrix. > > > I worked with Tejas to fix the 'err_reggnick required' thing. > Thanks Tejas for the help. > > Regards, > Amey. > ___ > plug-mail mailing list > plug-mail@plug.org.in > http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail For further reference: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Guide:-How-to-use-Matrix-to-participate-in-IRC-rooms Always happy to help! Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Regular Guild Meetings on IRC
Dear all, In any FOSS community, IRC is an important channel of communication. More discussions need to take place on the IRC channel. However, recent mailing list archives and IRC channel logs show that the overall interaction among PLUG members is declining. The immediate priority of PLUG should be to *attract new members*. In a city like Pune, this is a comparatively easy task. Attracting new members becomes easier, if new people can interact with PLUG members and take part in discussions, before participating in a PLUG-organized event. The IRC channel is a great place for such things. Using IRC has the following benefits for the members: 1. It opens doors for non-members from other IRC channels to join PLUG discussions without having to subscribe to the mailing list. 2. It opens the doors of many other communities which new (and, young) members can greatly benefit from. 3. Having informal small-talk improves the team-spirit and overall cohesiveness of the community. 4. Senior members get a chance to have one-on-one with new members which will aid them in mentoring. Thus, I am proposing holding *guild meetings* on *#pluggies* at Freenode, *every Saturday at 8:00 PM IST*. Everyone (member and non-member) is welcome to join. Topics of discussion for these meetings can be decided on the mailing list. Holding *regular* guild meetings has the following benefits to the community as an organization: 1. It increases the pace of planning for events. 2. It will set a routine for PLUG activities and it's members. 3. It encourages members and non-members to participate in discussions and thus, voice their opinions. The goal of any community needs to be the *growth* and *development* of it's members. Sharing of information amongst the members of community and mentoring from experienced folk, are two ways to achieve this goal. Holding regular guild meetings and use of alternative channels of communication like IRC and Twitter will take us forward toward that goal. We hope to hold a guild-meeting on *10th July at 8 PM IST*, where the topic of discussion is up-coming meetup on the 21st of July. In case, someone needs help on how to connect to IRC, refer: https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/irc.html# Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas) ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
Re: [PLUG] Idea for a PLUG meetup with Debian Buster Release party
This will also allow us to tell people from Debian Pune about PLUG, which may in turn, help us attract new members. Since, PLUG is a *distro-secular* community, we can learn a lot of stuff by interacting with the Debian community. This meetup can build the foundation for future collabs, which can never hurt. ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail
[PLUG] Does PLUG have an IRC channel?
Greetings, I was wondering if the Pune Linux Users Group have an IRC channel? If not, I would like to take the initiative of setting one up... I don't know a lot about setting it up. But, I am willing to learn stuff and set it up. Tejas Sanap. ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail