Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-05 Thread Tomas Kuchta
sudo VirtualBox OracleadditionsPack
Should fix your USB 1.1 limitations.

Then, you can try install the guest additions inside the w2k.

-T

On Feb 5, 2018 6:08 PM, "Denis Heidtmann"  wrote:

Since my hard crashes are not unique to my system, and others found that
changing to VB 5.2, I completely removed 5.0 and installed 5.2 from
Oracle.  I followed the instructions as best I could understand them--added
a source (https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian) to get it.  It
runs now, but I had to revert to USB 1.0 in my guest settings for lack of
extensions.  I do not know if that restriction will be a limit for me or
not.

My main concern is what happens with upgrades?  I do not  have a clue as to
how this "contributed" source is compatible with the "official" packages
from Ubuntu.

The  other question is why does my laptop continue to run VB 5.0 OK?

-Denis

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:

> Looking at your response Dennis - you might not be using vBox extension in
> your setup. For that you would have to be using vBox installed from
> virtualBox.org.
>
> So, if you do not use additions/extensions, please disregard my extension
> related comments.
>
> If on other hand are using vBox extensions, they must come from the same
> place as your vBox installation. You cannot mix and match Ubuntu
> installation with virtualbox.org additions. That would cause you a lot of
> paint, guaranteed.
>
> Tomas
>
> On Feb 5, 2018 1:17 PM, "Tomas Kuchta" 
> wrote:
>
> > I would second the extension pack as possible, cause.
> >
> > With virtualBox, the kernel module and host additions need to be
upgraded
> > in sync. It is wise to also keep the guest additions in sync, especially
> if
> > you left it drift for a while.
> >
> > I have vBox 5.2.6 working fine on openSuSE.
> >
> > This is maybe unrelated to your current issue. Still, it is something to
> > consider.
> >
> > When switching hosts - they might have different CPUs, with different
> > features exposed to guests. Unless you lock it down to the lowest common
> > denominator in your guest config, you might run into crashes or even
have
> > you windows instance disabled.
> >
> > When you use something as old as w2k in virtualBox or KVM or  It
> would
> > make sense to be cautious while upgrading. The host additions and/or
> guest
> > drivers need to be compatible with your w2k. So it would make sense to
> > check the release notes for the dreaded incompatible message. At some
> point
> > in the future, even inside virtual machines, these old OS's will become
> > dead due to their drivers becoming broken.
> >
> > Hope it helps, Tomas
> >
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2018 8:05 AM, "Ken Stephens" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like you need to install the extension pack for your upgraded VB.
> > https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My base OS is Win7 and I run a guest operator system of Ubuntu 16.04
> LTS.
> > > My Ubuntu would not boot. Win7 works fine.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > > On Feb 4, 2018, at 18:42, Denis Heidtmann  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my
> > guest;
> > > > Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting
> that I
> > > > would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is
> > the
> > > > culprit)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer <
> aschl...@comcast.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to
> Virtual
> > > Box
> > > >> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I
> > > shutdown
> > > >> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got
> > > nothing.
> > > >> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB
> > > partition
> > > >> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
> > > >>
> > > >> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens
> > > again I
> > > >> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months.
We
> > use
> > > >> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6
> hours
> > > >> reinstalling everything.
> > > >>
> > > >> Tony
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann <
> denis.heidtm...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no
> > > keyboard
> > > >>> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
> > > >> Reliably
> > > >>> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k
> > guest;
> > > >>> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
> > > >> systems,
> > > >>> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems
unusual
> > is
> > > >> that
> > > >>> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2
> > > Clone.vdi
> > > 

Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-05 Thread Denis Heidtmann
Since my hard crashes are not unique to my system, and others found that
changing to VB 5.2, I completely removed 5.0 and installed 5.2 from
Oracle.  I followed the instructions as best I could understand them--added
a source (https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian) to get it.  It
runs now, but I had to revert to USB 1.0 in my guest settings for lack of
extensions.  I do not know if that restriction will be a limit for me or
not.

My main concern is what happens with upgrades?  I do not  have a clue as to
how this "contributed" source is compatible with the "official" packages
from Ubuntu.

The  other question is why does my laptop continue to run VB 5.0 OK?

-Denis

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:

> Looking at your response Dennis - you might not be using vBox extension in
> your setup. For that you would have to be using vBox installed from
> virtualBox.org.
>
> So, if you do not use additions/extensions, please disregard my extension
> related comments.
>
> If on other hand are using vBox extensions, they must come from the same
> place as your vBox installation. You cannot mix and match Ubuntu
> installation with virtualbox.org additions. That would cause you a lot of
> paint, guaranteed.
>
> Tomas
>
> On Feb 5, 2018 1:17 PM, "Tomas Kuchta" 
> wrote:
>
> > I would second the extension pack as possible, cause.
> >
> > With virtualBox, the kernel module and host additions need to be upgraded
> > in sync. It is wise to also keep the guest additions in sync, especially
> if
> > you left it drift for a while.
> >
> > I have vBox 5.2.6 working fine on openSuSE.
> >
> > This is maybe unrelated to your current issue. Still, it is something to
> > consider.
> >
> > When switching hosts - they might have different CPUs, with different
> > features exposed to guests. Unless you lock it down to the lowest common
> > denominator in your guest config, you might run into crashes or even have
> > you windows instance disabled.
> >
> > When you use something as old as w2k in virtualBox or KVM or  It
> would
> > make sense to be cautious while upgrading. The host additions and/or
> guest
> > drivers need to be compatible with your w2k. So it would make sense to
> > check the release notes for the dreaded incompatible message. At some
> point
> > in the future, even inside virtual machines, these old OS's will become
> > dead due to their drivers becoming broken.
> >
> > Hope it helps, Tomas
> >
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2018 8:05 AM, "Ken Stephens" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like you need to install the extension pack for your upgraded VB.
> > https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My base OS is Win7 and I run a guest operator system of Ubuntu 16.04
> LTS.
> > > My Ubuntu would not boot. Win7 works fine.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > > On Feb 4, 2018, at 18:42, Denis Heidtmann  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my
> > guest;
> > > > Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting
> that I
> > > > would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is
> > the
> > > > culprit)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer <
> aschl...@comcast.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to
> Virtual
> > > Box
> > > >> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I
> > > shutdown
> > > >> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got
> > > nothing.
> > > >> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB
> > > partition
> > > >> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
> > > >>
> > > >> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens
> > > again I
> > > >> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We
> > use
> > > >> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6
> hours
> > > >> reinstalling everything.
> > > >>
> > > >> Tony
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann <
> denis.heidtm...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no
> > > keyboard
> > > >>> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
> > > >> Reliably
> > > >>> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k
> > guest;
> > > >>> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
> > > >> systems,
> > > >>> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual
> > is
> > > >> that
> > > >>> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2
> > > Clone.vdi
> > > >>> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> > > >>> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the
> > guest
> > > >>> additions on the desktop.  VB had ru

Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-05 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Looking at your response Dennis - you might not be using vBox extension in
your setup. For that you would have to be using vBox installed from
virtualBox.org.

So, if you do not use additions/extensions, please disregard my extension
related comments.

If on other hand are using vBox extensions, they must come from the same
place as your vBox installation. You cannot mix and match Ubuntu
installation with virtualbox.org additions. That would cause you a lot of
paint, guaranteed.

Tomas

On Feb 5, 2018 1:17 PM, "Tomas Kuchta"  wrote:

> I would second the extension pack as possible, cause.
>
> With virtualBox, the kernel module and host additions need to be upgraded
> in sync. It is wise to also keep the guest additions in sync, especially if
> you left it drift for a while.
>
> I have vBox 5.2.6 working fine on openSuSE.
>
> This is maybe unrelated to your current issue. Still, it is something to
> consider.
>
> When switching hosts - they might have different CPUs, with different
> features exposed to guests. Unless you lock it down to the lowest common
> denominator in your guest config, you might run into crashes or even have
> you windows instance disabled.
>
> When you use something as old as w2k in virtualBox or KVM or  It would
> make sense to be cautious while upgrading. The host additions and/or guest
> drivers need to be compatible with your w2k. So it would make sense to
> check the release notes for the dreaded incompatible message. At some point
> in the future, even inside virtual machines, these old OS's will become
> dead due to their drivers becoming broken.
>
> Hope it helps, Tomas
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2018 8:05 AM, "Ken Stephens"  wrote:
>
> Sounds like you need to install the extension pack for your upgraded VB.
> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> wrote:
>
> > My base OS is Win7 and I run a guest operator system of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
> > My Ubuntu would not boot. Win7 works fine.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > > On Feb 4, 2018, at 18:42, Denis Heidtmann 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my
> guest;
> > > Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting that I
> > > would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is
> the
> > > culprit)?
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to Virtual
> > Box
> > >> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I
> > shutdown
> > >> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got
> > nothing.
> > >> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB
> > partition
> > >> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
> > >>
> > >> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens
> > again I
> > >> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We
> use
> > >> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6 hours
> > >> reinstalling everything.
> > >>
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no
> > keyboard
> > >>> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
> > >> Reliably
> > >>> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> > >>>
> > >>> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k
> guest;
> > >>> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
> > >> systems,
> > >>> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual
> is
> > >> that
> > >>> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2
> > Clone.vdi
> > >>> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> > >>> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the
> guest
> > >>> additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest
> > >> attempt.  I
> > >>> will go looking for the guest additions.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Denis
> > >>> ___
> > >>> PLUG mailing list
> > >>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >>
> > >> ___
> > >> PLUG mailing list
> > >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >>
> > > ___
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> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
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>
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Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-05 Thread Denis Heidtmann
I take you to mean that it is possible that an upgrade in the package(s)
from Ubuntu could have broken something.  So I searched and found:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/995804/ubuntu-16-04-virtualbox-5-0-host-crashes

I always assume that problems I encounter are unique to my tiny corner of
the binary universe, due to my incompetence.  I should rather assume that
if I have a problem, I am likely not alone.

Time to upgrade to VB 5.2

Thanks for your advice.

-Denis

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:

> I would second the extension pack as possible, cause.
>
> With virtualBox, the kernel module and host additions need to be upgraded
> in sync. It is wise to also keep the guest additions in sync, especially if
> you left it drift for a while.
>
> I have vBox 5.2.6 working fine on openSuSE.
>
> This is maybe unrelated to your current issue. Still, it is something to
> consider.
>
> When switching hosts - they might have different CPUs, with different
> features exposed to guests. Unless you lock it down to the lowest common
> denominator in your guest config, you might run into crashes or even have
> you windows instance disabled.
>
> When you use something as old as w2k in virtualBox or KVM or  It would
> make sense to be cautious while upgrading. The host additions and/or guest
> drivers need to be compatible with your w2k. So it would make sense to
> check the release notes for the dreaded incompatible message. At some point
> in the future, even inside virtual machines, these old OS's will become
> dead due to their drivers becoming broken.
>
> Hope it helps, Tomas
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2018 8:05 AM, "Ken Stephens"  wrote:
>
> Sounds like you need to install the extension pack for your upgraded VB.
> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> wrote:
>
> > My base OS is Win7 and I run a guest operator system of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
> > My Ubuntu would not boot. Win7 works fine.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > > On Feb 4, 2018, at 18:42, Denis Heidtmann 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my
> guest;
> > > Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting that I
> > > would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is
> the
> > > culprit)?
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to Virtual
> > Box
> > >> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I
> > shutdown
> > >> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got
> > nothing.
> > >> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB
> > partition
> > >> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
> > >>
> > >> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens
> > again I
> > >> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We
> use
> > >> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6 hours
> > >> reinstalling everything.
> > >>
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no
> > keyboard
> > >>> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
> > >> Reliably
> > >>> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> > >>>
> > >>> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k
> guest;
> > >>> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
> > >> systems,
> > >>> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual
> is
> > >> that
> > >>> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2
> > Clone.vdi
> > >>> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> > >>> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the
> guest
> > >>> additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest
> > >> attempt.  I
> > >>> will go looking for the guest additions.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Denis
> > >>> ___
> > >>> PLUG mailing list
> > >>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >>
> > >> ___
> > >> PLUG mailing list
> > >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >>
> > > ___
> > > PLUG mailing list
> > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
> > ___
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> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-05 Thread Tomas Kuchta
I would second the extension pack as possible, cause.

With virtualBox, the kernel module and host additions need to be upgraded
in sync. It is wise to also keep the guest additions in sync, especially if
you left it drift for a while.

I have vBox 5.2.6 working fine on openSuSE.

This is maybe unrelated to your current issue. Still, it is something to
consider.

When switching hosts - they might have different CPUs, with different
features exposed to guests. Unless you lock it down to the lowest common
denominator in your guest config, you might run into crashes or even have
you windows instance disabled.

When you use something as old as w2k in virtualBox or KVM or  It would
make sense to be cautious while upgrading. The host additions and/or guest
drivers need to be compatible with your w2k. So it would make sense to
check the release notes for the dreaded incompatible message. At some point
in the future, even inside virtual machines, these old OS's will become
dead due to their drivers becoming broken.

Hope it helps, Tomas


On Feb 5, 2018 8:05 AM, "Ken Stephens"  wrote:

Sounds like you need to install the extension pack for your upgraded VB.
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tony Schlemmer  wrote:

> My base OS is Win7 and I run a guest operator system of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
> My Ubuntu would not boot. Win7 works fine.
>
> Tony
>
> > On Feb 4, 2018, at 18:42, Denis Heidtmann 
> wrote:
> >
> > I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my
guest;
> > Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting that I
> > would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is
the
> > culprit)?
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to Virtual
> Box
> >> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I
> shutdown
> >> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got
> nothing.
> >> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB
> partition
> >> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
> >>
> >> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens
> again I
> >> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We
use
> >> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6 hours
> >> reinstalling everything.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no
> keyboard
> >>> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
> >> Reliably
> >>> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> >>>
> >>> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k
guest;
> >>> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
> >> systems,
> >>> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual is
> >> that
> >>> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2
> Clone.vdi
> >>> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> >>> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the guest
> >>> additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest
> >> attempt.  I
> >>> will go looking for the guest additions.
> >>>
> >>> I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
> >>>
> >>> -Denis
> >>> ___
> >>> PLUG mailing list
> >>> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >>
> >> ___
> >> PLUG mailing list
> >> PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> >>
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> > PLUG@pdxlinux.org
> > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>
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Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-05 Thread Denis Heidtmann
Why do you refer to my VB as upgraded?  The version I have (on both
machines) is 5.0.40_Ubuntu r115130.  I could not find this version at the
link you provided.  I guess I can uninstall and reinstall VB, but that
seems similar to "in case of problems, reboot"-type of approach.  I suppose
it is possible that a bit or two got flipped in the SSD and the installed
data is broken.  All the software on this machine were installed using the
Ubuntu package manager.  How does SW installed via another route (i.e., the
link you provided) work with the package manager?

Thanks,
-Denis

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:04 AM, Ken Stephens 
wrote:

> Sounds like you need to install the extension pack for your upgraded VB.
> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> wrote:
>
> > My base OS is Win7 and I run a guest operator system of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
> > My Ubuntu would not boot. Win7 works fine.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > > On Feb 4, 2018, at 18:42, Denis Heidtmann 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my
> guest;
> > > Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting that I
> > > would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is
> the
> > > culprit)?
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to Virtual
> > Box
> > >> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I
> > shutdown
> > >> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got
> > nothing.
> > >> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB
> > partition
> > >> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
> > >>
> > >> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens
> > again I
> > >> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We
> use
> > >> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6 hours
> > >> reinstalling everything.
> > >>
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no
> > keyboard
> > >>> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
> > >> Reliably
> > >>> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> > >>>
> > >>> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k
> guest;
> > >>> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
> > >> systems,
> > >>> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual
> is
> > >> that
> > >>> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2
> > Clone.vdi
> > >>> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> > >>> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the
> guest
> > >>> additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest
> > >> attempt.  I
> > >>> will go looking for the guest additions.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Denis
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Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-05 Thread Ken Stephens
Sounds like you need to install the extension pack for your upgraded VB.
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tony Schlemmer  wrote:

> My base OS is Win7 and I run a guest operator system of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
> My Ubuntu would not boot. Win7 works fine.
>
> Tony
>
> > On Feb 4, 2018, at 18:42, Denis Heidtmann 
> wrote:
> >
> > I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my guest;
> > Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting that I
> > would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is  the
> > culprit)?
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to Virtual
> Box
> >> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I
> shutdown
> >> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got
> nothing.
> >> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB
> partition
> >> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
> >>
> >> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens
> again I
> >> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We use
> >> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6 hours
> >> reinstalling everything.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no
> keyboard
> >>> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
> >> Reliably
> >>> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> >>>
> >>> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k guest;
> >>> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
> >> systems,
> >>> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual is
> >> that
> >>> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2
> Clone.vdi
> >>> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> >>> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the guest
> >>> additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest
> >> attempt.  I
> >>> will go looking for the guest additions.
> >>>
> >>> I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
> >>>
> >>> -Denis
> >>> ___
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Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-04 Thread Tony Schlemmer
My base OS is Win7 and I run a guest operator system of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. My 
Ubuntu would not boot. Win7 works fine.

Tony

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 18:42, Denis Heidtmann  wrote:
> 
> I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my guest;
> Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting that I
> would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is  the
> culprit)?
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer  wrote:
>> 
>> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to Virtual Box
>> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I shutdown
>> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got nothing.
>> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB partition
>> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
>> 
>> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens again I
>> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We use
>> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6 hours
>> reinstalling everything.
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no keyboard
>>> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
>> Reliably
>>> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
>>> 
>>> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k guest;
>>> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
>> systems,
>>> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual is
>> that
>>> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2 Clone.vdi
>>> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
>>> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the guest
>>> additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest
>> attempt.  I
>>> will go looking for the guest additions.
>>> 
>>> I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
>>> 
>>> -Denis
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Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-04 Thread Denis Heidtmann
I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my guest;
Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting that I
would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is  the
culprit)?


On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer  wrote:

> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to Virtual Box
> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I shutdown
> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got nothing.
> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB partition
> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
>
> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens again I
> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We use
> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6 hours
> reinstalling everything.
>
> Tony
>
> > On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann 
> wrote:
> >
> > As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no keyboard
> > reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
> Reliably
> > repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> >
> > My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k guest;
> > works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
> systems,
> > and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual is
> that
> > the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2 Clone.vdi
> > and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> > VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the guest
> > additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest
> attempt.  I
> > will go looking for the guest additions.
> >
> > I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
> >
> > -Denis
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Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-04 Thread Tony Schlemmer
I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to Virtual Box 
5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I shutdown the 
VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got nothing. The logs 
were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB partition with Ubuntu 
and down load every again. 

Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens again I at 
least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We use GIT so I 
checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6 hours reinstalling 
everything. 

Tony

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann  wrote:
> 
> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no keyboard
> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.  Reliably
> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> 
> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k guest;
> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two systems,
> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual is that
> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2 Clone.vdi
> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the guest
> additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest attempt.  I
> will go looking for the guest additions.
> 
> I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
> 
> -Denis
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Re: [PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-04 Thread Denis Heidtmann
Found the guest additions, changed the entry in  the Storage section, still
the same crash.

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:

> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no keyboard
> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.  Reliably
> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
>
> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k guest;
> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two systems,
> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual is that
> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2 Clone.vdi
> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the guest
> additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest attempt.  I
> will go looking for the guest additions.
>
> I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
>
> -Denis
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[PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

2018-02-04 Thread Denis Heidtmann
As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no keyboard
reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.  Reliably
repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.

My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k guest;
works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two systems,
and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual is that
the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2 Clone.vdi
and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the guest
additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest attempt.  I
will go looking for the guest additions.

I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.

-Denis
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