Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-14 Thread whitman
Very good advice, bpa, for which many thanks. I shall pin up your list somewhere very visible. -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-14 Thread bpa
The automated installer will be very good as it should simplify installs, make sure correct versions are installed and notify when updates are available. However it will still depend on the extension author to create the right package and since this is a new facility - I expect some teething prob

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-14 Thread whitman
I see. It sounds like SC is trying to get to where it really needs to be: a place where users can install things easily without pulling out too much hair in the process. Assuming one has any hair left in the first place. Seriously: this sounds like a good development. I'm still enmeshed in th

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-14 Thread bpa
Lots of things see announcement but there was a rewrite of the streaming (incl. transcoding) module which improves the sync capabilities. I think the rewrite can enable me to tell SC that that trnascoding to Flac is being used and so A beta feature is enabling SB controller to be a SB player and

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-14 Thread whitman
Understood. What does 7.3 have in store? -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56028 __

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-14 Thread bpa
It's a known problem due to fact that SC doesn't know SB is playing a Flac stream - SC thinks it is a slow AACplus (e.g. 128 or 48k bit) streams as guesses the amount of "music time" in the SB buffer wheras SB has a 1500kbps Flac stream and has about 10 or 20 times less "music time" buffered. Pro

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-14 Thread whitman
I've been using my SB3 with the shiny new AACplus streams for a few days now, and I notice that when a station (such as Paradise) has the facility to provide a readout on the SB of what's playing (after you press Now Playing), it takes quite a while for the Now Playing readout to change to match t

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-12 Thread whitman
I agree, and for once it's quite easy to do a reasonably rapid A/B test by having an MP3 stream and an AACplus stream on the Favourites and rapidly switch between. No contest, to my ears. Thanks for the tuner2 tip, too. -- whitman ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-12 Thread bpa
I'm a firm believer that AACplus gives a better sound than MP3 - although initially I thought it would only give similar sound at a lower bitrate as ISPs in Ireland have a low download threshold before surcharges kickin. This site http://www.tuner2.com/ has a lot of AACplus stations listed. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-12 Thread whitman
Bpa, that worked a treat, and now I have excellent quality aacplus streams on my SB3. I'm very grateful for your patience with my fumblings and for your calm, methodical approach. Have you considered international diplomacy? For anyone wondering what my fussing was about, I suggest you give a cou

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-12 Thread bpa
No change it to 7.2.* -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56028 ___ plu

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread whitman
At present the line in question reads... 7.0+ So do I change it to... 7.2.1+ -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread bpa
Edit the install.xml file. There is a field called MaxVersion - change it to 7.2.*. Restart SC -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/sh

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread whitman
Ah ha. I hadn't noticed this. It says ... <> Now what? -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56028 __

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread bpa
Are there any error messages associated with AACplus plugin in the Settings/Plugin page ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthrea

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread whitman
Hello bpa. bpa;368904 Wrote: > Yes - I think editing the various conf files similar to 6.5 should > work. > > Thinking about your problem - can you check if there are any other > convert.conf, custom-convert.conmf, types.conf and custom-types.conf > files with any aacpplus mods that SC could b

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread bpa
Yes - I think editing the various conf files similar to 6.5 should work. Thinking about your problem - can you check if there are any other convert.conf, custom-convert.conmf, types.conf and custom-types.conf files with any aacpplus mods that SC could be finding andgetting confused ? Also che

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread whitman
Sorry I'm being dim here. Is there another way to get aacplus feeds into SC without your 'plugin', perhaps? I seem to remember when I got it going in 6.5.x I had to change some config files or similar. -- whitman whitman'

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread bpa
I repeat - the problem has nothing to do with mplayer. SC cannot look into aacpmplayer.sh and see what the script does - SC only knows about aacpmplayer.sh SC has marked the AACp filetype disabled without even running aacplmaplayer.sh - SC from inspection has decided it cannot run aacmplayer.sh

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread whitman
Apologies, bpa, for dragging you away from Alien work. Could there be a prob with mplayer? In other words, my assumption is that your aacplus 'plugin' tells an aacplus stream to look for mplayer, and mplayer 'plays' it. So is there a way to test if mplayer is working OK? -- whitman ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread bpa
I've been tied up trying to get AlienBBC updated after recent BBC web change. It all looks OK and should work so I tried to think what else could be wrong but nothing immediately comes to mind. There may be an OSX "Gotcha" regarding so many Plugin directories but I wouldn't know them. -- bpa

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-11 Thread whitman
Hello bpa. Does the info in that last message help at all? -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56028

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-10 Thread whitman
Thanks bpa. Doing a 'ls -l' gives -rwxrwxrwx which looks as if it's executable. The full path to it is... /Users/Tony/Library/Application\ Support/SqueezeCenter/Plugins/AACplus/Bin/aacpmplayer.sh For 'Plugin Folders' on Settings/Status page I have... /Users/Tony/Library/PreferencePanes/Squ

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-10 Thread bpa
As I said above - if the entry is greyed out then aacpmplayer.sh has not been executed - SC doesn't know or care about mplayer at this point. * SC thinks aacplmplayer.sh is not executable * aacpmplayer.sh is executbale but not in a directory that SC has checked. - if you do a "ls -l " on the aa

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-10 Thread whitman
Hello again bpa. (Please see my last message too.) I assume that now we know the aacpmplayer.sh file is OK and executing, the problem may lie with mplayer. Is there an easy way I can check if mplayer is doing what it ought to do? As I said earlier, the AACplus file types are shown in Advanced/

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-09 Thread whitman
Hello bpa, I checked on a couple of OSX/Unix forums, and they say, after some investigation, that it doesn't matter what the Finder says of my file. As long as the file-modes say it is executable, then it is. And they do say it is - so it is. Which I suppose means the problem lies elsewhere. Any

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-09 Thread whitman
Good, yes I'll try an OSX forum and report back. But, of course, in the meantime if anyone OSX-inclined should be reading this and can offer advice ... -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-09 Thread bpa
I think try an OSX specific forum to get an explanation/understanding about why odd behaviour making the script executable. >From AlienBBC experience I think there are only a few OSX users who would reply but they are not online all the time. -- bpa --

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-09 Thread whitman
Understood bpa. Do you think it's worth me starting a new thread to try to attract a helpful OSX user? I might try an OSX forum elsewhere on the net too. -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.p

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-09 Thread bpa
Grey out means SC cannot find the executable that is specified in the custom-convert.conf file (i.e. aacpmplayer.sh). Either the files does not exist in the place SC expects or the file is not executable. Making a shell script executable is not AACplus specific. The shell script is just a variat

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-09 Thread whitman
Just had a glance at my Settings/Advanced/File Types, and AACplus is listed there, but the decoder options are greyed-out. Not sure if that tells us any more about what's not right. Are there really no Mac users on this forum who have installed bpa's AACplus 'plugin' and got it working? -- whi

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-08 Thread whitman
1. Yes, I'm sure. 2. Created an empty file in Terminal with the touch command. This makes yet another plain text file. Tried to make it executable with the chmod a+x command, and it stays as a plain text file. What am I doing wrong? Or is there a peculiar OSX thing I'm not doing right? I'm stumped

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-08 Thread bpa
The trouble with OSX is that there are so few users around who can offer help. I don't have OSX so all I can do is make general suggestions. 1. Are you sure you are trying to rename the file in the unpacked directory and not within the ".tar.gz" file ? 2. a. Create a empty file from scratch and

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-08 Thread whitman
Ownership seems OK. Very odd behaviour. If I make a duplicate ('aacpmplayer.sh copy') it says it's a Unix executable file. If I delete the 'copy' bit, it's back to a plain text file. If I leave a space after sh, it stays executable. But I'm not convinced it is. Perhaps I should take a step or two

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-08 Thread bpa
The ownership of the file may be preventing you from changing the permissions. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=560

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-08 Thread whitman
(Thanks: for some reason that was a Safari wobble. Downloaded fine in Firefox.) I now have the aacpmplayer.sh file, but it's a plain text file. I've tried to make it executable in Terminal with a Unix chmod command but it doesn't respond. Is there a useable one available to download? -- whit

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-08 Thread bpa
It's a standard attachment so it's your browser that's messing it up. Just click on the file and it should offer to download. Check whether your browser has given the wrong name but the file contents are correct - rename the file to get rid of the ".html" and then see if you can untar the file.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-08 Thread whitman
Ah yes. Anyway, I tried downloading the 'plugin' at that link, but all I get is a file called AACplusLinux.tar.gz.html, which is surely not what I want. Doesn't do anything, anyway. Is there another way to get this? -- whitman

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-08 Thread bpa
In the post below I created a "plug-in" to simplify the AACPlus installation. It used to work for OSX but there have been changes to mplayer distribution which may mean the file Bin/aacplayer.sh needs to be tweaked. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=272774&postcount=19 -- bpa -

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-07 Thread whitman
Thanks bpa. My hard drive's top level does indeed lead to /usr/local/bin with an mplayer file inside. But that might be a remnant from the old setup. How do I check convert.conf settings? This is sounding familiar - I think I had to do something to these for my previous 6.5.1 setup to get AAC P

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-07 Thread bpa
Normally mplayer would be save in /usr/local/bin assuming /usr/local/bin is on the path. However where mplayer should be for AACplus decoding depends on your convert.conf settings for AACplus. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http:/

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-07 Thread whitman
I meant AAC Plus, by the way. -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56028 _

[SlimDevices: Plugins] aac streams on SC 7.2: where does mplayer go on a mac?

2008-12-06 Thread whitman
Just updated Slimserver 6.5.1 to Squeezecenter 7.2 on my Mac. I want to play AAC streams, so will still need mplayer. It used to live in [home]/Library/Application Support/SlimDevices/bin. Can I just copy that old bin folder, which I put aside during my clean installation of 7.2, to the new instal