d6jg wrote:
> I currently use Qobuz (and Spotify for now) but I have tried both Deezer
> and Tidal in the past.
> Deezer & Tidal are both provided via MySB.com and I think there is less
> development in that area whereas Qobuz is a plugin which Michael has
> "adopted" and continues to develop
Redrum wrote:
> no worries. I noticed that your post in this thread wasn't getting a
> response before mine, so can completely understand thinking your posted
> in the wrong place!
> Jim
There's also Adagio, which is excellent for 'classical' music - but I
don't think anyone has developed a
Zoltan wrote:
> BTW sorry for starting two threads
no worries. I noticed that your post in this thread wasn't getting a
response before mine, so can completely understand thinking your posted
in the wrong place!
Jim
Redrum wrote:
> I don't use Deezer, so this is not personal experience, but I believe
> you have to install the app at mysquezebox.com->app gallery->deezer. You
> may (?) have to have an account to install, but you could try the free
> account. Enable the plugin (which you have done), Them make
Thanks Jim (and for the reply on the 'other thread in the
MySqueezebox.com forum'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104738-Deezer-Plugin=1047713=1#post1047713)).
I will look into it.
BTW sorry for starting two threads - I hadn't initially realised the
MySB requirement, but once I
Zoltan wrote:
> I have been thinking of giving Deezer a go as an alternative to
> Spotify.
>
> According to my settings, I have the Deezer plugin installed but I do
> not see any sign of it in the UI. For example, Spotty appears under My
> Apps on the Web UI but I have never seen anything
I have been thinking of giving Deezer a go as an alternative to
Spotify.
According to my settings, I have the Deezer plugin installed but I do
not see any sign of it in the UI. For example, Spotty appears under My
Apps on the Web UI but I have never seen anything related to Deezer.
Is there
Spotify are worse than Amazon when it comes to cancelling. You need to
click cancel on three different pages. After the second one you think
cancellation is complete but no you are taken to another page listing
all the plans with a "Confirm cancellation" at the bottom of the page
which you don't
The Groundsman wrote:
> I used to be with Deezer before moving to Spotify ages ago. I liked it a
> lot and there seemed to be less licencing issues. The issue for me was
> that there were quite severe limitations on playlist size. 2000 v 1
> on Spotify.
>
> I am a bit weird I know but most
Julf wrote:
> I am pretty happy after switching to Deezer (and thanks for everyone
> here who helped me get the LMS integration working!).
I used to be with Deezer before moving to Spotify ages ago. I liked it a
lot and there seemed to be less licencing issues. The issue for me was
that there
I am pretty happy after switching to Deezer (and thanks for everyone
here who helped me get the LMS integration working!).
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many
expectingtofly wrote:
> I just switched from Spotify to Qobuz.
> The amount Spotify pay to artists is what pushed me to move, Public
> Service Broadcast recently published on twitter how much income per
> stream they get from each streaming service. Qobuz pays 6.57 times the
> amount
I just switched from Spotify to Qobuz.
The amount Spotify pay to artists is what pushed me to move, Public
Service Broadcast recently published on twitter how much income per
stream they get from each streaming service. Qobuz pays 6.57 times the
amount Spotify do!!
Redrum wrote:
> Slight detour from the thread topic, I apologize...
>
> No, I basically ignored Zaireeka back then due to logistics. But now
> that you mention it, I do have four radios and could mix two pair of
> disks into just two stereo recordings (disk 1/2 and 3/4), and set up 2
> pairs
slartibartfast wrote:
> Have you tried playing Zaireeka on four different players? That is a
> frustrating exercise in trying to start them all at the same time
> [emoji1787]
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Slight detour from the thread topic, I apologize...
No, I basically ignored
Redrum wrote:
> I have nothing to add the the normalization discussion, gain adjustment
> in general has always frustrated me so I gave up.
>
> What I will add is what a great album, at a real creative sweet spot for
> the lips - Mystic, Soft Bulletin, Yoshimi. Think I'll cue them up
> today!
Jaca, that's interesting.
Now I see that I can indeed add folders to Spotify's Playlists!
In the official Spotify app on my desktop Mac, if I right-click on an
existing Playlist in the sidebar on the left, there's an option to
Create Folder, which I'd completely missed. It's easy from there
whitman wrote:
> I must be missing something obviousI've not been able to create nested
> folders in Playlists in the official Spotify app (or Spotty). How do you
> do that?Probably you need Windows or ios app as on my android I cannot create
new folder.. I can only see existing folders and
slartibartfast wrote:
> I tried "Flaming Lips - At War With the Mystics"
I have nothing to add the the normalization discussion, gain adjustment
in general has always frustrated me so I gave up.
What I will add is what a great album, at a real creative sweet spot for
the lips - Mystic, Soft
Jaca wrote:
> I mean in official Spotify you can create folder in playlists and then
> another folder with this folder..
> This was reflected in spotty with token trick described on spotty
> settings page
> .
> Weirdly I lost folder structure on my LMS..
> Maybe cos I have cancelled premium
slartibartfast wrote:
> Of course we don't know if volume normalisation is available for Tidal
> via LMS. Maybe @mherger can tell us more. It looks as though it isn't on
> by default explaining why The Wall is so quiet.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkApparently Sonos don't have volume
Jaca wrote:
> I have only run 2 different tracks so not in depth but I would probably
> share your conclusions. On one of them TIDAL was quieter but on other it
> was louder.
> My settings with -5 for remote streams .. Signal going from Touch (100%
> volume) thru Focusrite audio interface to
slartibartfast wrote:
> I tried a few more tracks and now it seems albums with a low replaygain
> adjustment (The Wall has an Album Gain of -1.69dB) seem to be noticeably
> quieter on Tidal. I tried "Flaming Lips - At War With the Mystics" which
> has an Album Gain of -11.07dB and Tidal wasn't
Jaca wrote:
> Will try bit laterI tried a few more tracks and now it seems albums with a
> low replaygain
adjustment (The Wall has an Album Gain of -1.69dB) seem to be noticeably
quieter on Tidal. I tried "Flaming Lips - At War With the Mystics" which
has an Album Gain of -11.07dB and Tidal
whitman wrote:
> Curious to know how you got nested folders anywhere in Spy.I mean in
> official Spotify you can create folder in playlists and then
another folder with this folder..
This was reflected in spotty with token trick described on spotty
settings page
.
Weirdly I lost folder
slartibartfast wrote:
> Try playing a local track and compare to the same track on Tidal, I used
> Pink Floyd - The Wall. For me Tidal was much quieter. If it isn't on
> yours that is very strange. I even tried changing the normalisation
> setting in the Tidal phone app, it made no difference.
Jaca wrote:
> Only annoyance was I had to tweak playlists structure as had nested
> folders on Spotify and only 1st level of folder is allowed on Tidal.
> Which BTW isn't even visible on LMS or TV app..
Curious to know how you got nested folders anywhere in Spy.
Jaca wrote:
> Yes it's on - 5Try playing a local track and compare to the same track on
> Tidal, I used
Pink Floyd - The Wall. For me Tidal was much quieter. If it isn't on
yours that is very strange. I even tried changing the normalisation
setting in the Tidal phone app, it made no
Jaca wrote:
> This can't be right.. I believe mine is on - 5 or even - 8 for remote
> streams and Tidal is little louder.. HmmmYes it's on - 5
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d6jg wrote:
> I dont use Tidal but I do use Qobuz and Ive never touched the Default
> Adjustment for Remote Streams setting. Sometimes Qobuz is slightly
> louder but only very slightly and it doesnt make me scrabble for a
> phone/tablet/remote to turn it down.In that case Qobuz probably
slartibartfast wrote:
> I think LMS replaygain doesn't work on Tidal, it uses the "Default
> Adjustment for Remote streams". I think if you disable replaygain Tidal
> will still be quieter. I have mine set to "Album gain" and the first
> thing I did was to compare a local album with the Tidal
Jaca wrote:
> I haven't experienced that but I'm running it all on smart gain.. Had
> all my library scanned and replay gained.. I think perhaps Tidal is
> little bit louder than local music. But not every song so not sure if
> any normalisation is applied at all.. I will check this again when
d6jg wrote:
> In Player Settings you can adjust volume for Remote Streams. In
> Material, do Settings Player, scroll down to Extra Settings then you
> will find it in the expanded Audio section.Yes but then Radio streams are too
> loud. You can't win. I suppose Radio
streams rarely follow
slartibartfast wrote:
> How do you find the volume of Tidal tracks compared to local tracks? I
> am finding them far too quiet. The Tidal phone app has a setting for
> volume normalisation but the LMS app doesn't. It acts as if
> normalisation is always on.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using
slartibartfast wrote:
> How do you find the volume of Tidal tracks compared to local tracks? I
> am finding them far too quiet. The Tidal phone app has a setting for
> volume normalisation but the LMS app doesn't. It acts as if
> normalisation is always on.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using
Jaca wrote:
> I'm on £1 for 3months Tidal trial in UK and really hoping that I can
> stay.. Wanted to quit Spotify for long time. Apart of fact they pay
> artist peanuts (which should be enough good reason to not use them) I
> remember theirs treatment of squeezebox community after dropping
>
mherger wrote:
> > Looks like there is also Hifiberry Tidal Connect - so the
> > implementations are out there.
>
> Logitech signed some contract with TIDAL (then still "WiMP") years back.
>
> We can't use any of these "hacked" solutions. They seem to be using a
> binary extracted from some
Looks like there is also Hifiberry Tidal Connect - so the
implementations are out there.
Logitech signed some contract with TIDAL (then still "WiMP") years back.
We can't use any of these "hacked" solutions. They seem to be using a
binary extracted from some hardware product to run it on a
@fatuousplatitudes just pay $4.50 for Soundiiz to move them over. Well
worth the time savings.
So Volumio has Tidal Connect functionality, behind their subscription
service though.
Looks like there is also Hifiberry Tidal Connect - so the
implementations are out there.
-
Jaca wrote:
> No, that looks OK on your printscreen.. My picture quality is poor but
> basically it's just more players..
> Sorry not sure what's wrong.. Maybe sync player with mysqueezebox.com on
> lms settings
SUCCESS!!
Thanks to everyone here - all your solutions were helpful, and then a
fatuousplatitudes wrote:
> Thanks, this is useful, if not a solution as yet:
>
> Yea, this is where something, whatever it is, is amiss.
> I DON'T have that range of options showing in
> mysqueezebox.com37079No, that looks OK on your printscreen.. My picture
> quality is poor but
basically
Jaca wrote:
> Are you sure your player settings have your player enabled under Tidal
> app on mysqueezebox.com? [image:
> https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220131/a1e9b73c24483e7c6a9e8c82e90cafdf.jpg]
Thanks, this is useful, if not a solution as yet:
Yea, this is where something, whatever it
Are you sure your player settings have your player enabled under Tidal
app on mysqueezebox.com? [image:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220131/a1e9b73c24483e7c6a9e8c82e90cafdf.jpg]
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fatuousplatitudes wrote:
> Yea, I saw that it takes time, but 'overnight' is a bit long...
>
> I don't see anything in LMS Settings/Player/menu (yea, there's a Spotty
> Spotify menu item) and checked everything I can see/think of in
> mysqueezebox.com
>
> Looking through Advanced menu (here's
bpa wrote:
> It takes time to sync with mysqueezebox.com.
> Other possible items to check is whether Tidal menu is enabled to be
> displayed on your player - not sure which ones are relevant - there is
> one in LMS Settings/Player/menu and another menu setting on my
> squeezebox.com
Yea, I saw
Shutdown & restart LMS?
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fatuousplatitudes wrote:
> Yes, that's syncing
In the Tidal App on mysqueezebox
Player Settings
do you have the correct Account email address ?
ronnie
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fatuousplatitudes wrote:
> Yes, that's syncing
It takes time to sync with mysqueezebox.com.
Other possible items to check is whether Tidal menu is enabled to be
displayed on your player - not sure which ones are relevant - there is
one in LMS Settings/Player/menu and another menu setting on my
bpa wrote:
> Is syncing with mysqueezebox.com enabled in your LMS
> Settings/mysqueezebox.com
Yes, that's syncing
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fatuousplatitudes wrote:
> WANTING TO SWITCH FROM SPOTIFY TO TIDAL
> I'm running LMS 8.2.1-etc in Windows11 and can't get Tidal to show up in
> My Apps.
> I have the Tidal plug-in (TIDAL v2.0) and the Tidal App from
> mysqueezebox.com installed and configured for my Tidal HiFi a/c, but
>
bpa wrote:
> You need to enable Tidal in mysqueezebox and enter your credentials
> Then after a bit of a delay 30-60 mins, assuming Tidal plugin has been
> installed (TIDAL v2.0) , menu item will appear under My Apps.
WANTING TO SWITCH FROM SPOTIFY TO TIDAL
I'm running LMS 8.2.1-etc in
tknx wrote:
> Yeah we are mostly on iOS and so that isnt an option. I really want to
> switch off of Spotify, (wanted to for artist pay anyway) but it is
> either find something with similar functionality or switch off of
> Slimserver based devices to Bluesound or Sonos.
>
> Amazon HD I think
Jaca wrote:
> Yeah just been reading that it was shut down in 2019... Weird that Tidal
> still lists it.. Hmm
>
> So just official mysqueezebox.com app/plugin... Are there any chances
> for proper Tidal connect support? I guess if it was possible Michael
> would already done it.
sorry, no
garym wrote:
> I think ickstream has been shut down for several years. But there is a
> TIDAL app (mysqueezebox.com) and plugin.Yeah just been reading that it was
> shut down in 2019... Weird that Tidal
still lists it.. Hmm
So just official mysqueezebox.com app/plugin... Are there any
Jaca wrote:
> Ohh yeah I imagine it could be difficult without anything similar to
> connect. Is workable but not as convenient.
>
> What about ickStream? Does it allow for Tidal connect?
>
> Have not yet researched it but its listed as Tidal official method of
> listening on squeezebox??
I
tknx wrote:
> Yeah we are mostly on iOS and so that isnt an option. I really want to
> switch off of Spotify, (wanted to for artist pay anyway) but it is
> either find something with similar functionality or switch off of
> Slimserver based devices to Bluesound or Sonos.
>
> Amazon HD I think
Jaca wrote:
> No I don't think there is one yet( don't know if ever possible? maybe we
> flood Tidal with API requests )
> But there is android app LMS connect which basically adds option play to
> LMS or queue to LMS when sharing from official android Tidal app.
> Its not same as proper connect
tknx wrote:
> I dont see anything that allows for Tidal Connect? To me the biggest
> advantage of Spotify is that feature. Am I missing a setting?No I don't think
> there is one yet( don't know if ever possible? maybe we
flood Tidal with API requests )
But there is android app LMS connect
I dont see anything that allows for Tidal Connect? To me the biggest
advantage of Spotify is that feature. Am I missing a setting?
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hsmeets wrote:
> For streaming you can set it to
> MP3 320kbps
> CD 16b 44.1Khz
> Hires 24b up to 96Khz
> Hires 24b up to 196Khz
>
> Their cheapest plan gives access to music in all sample rates.
>
> What I see in the classical cataloque is that the majority is 24/96 or
> 24/88 material.
Spacegrass wrote:
> Thanks Garym. myoops.com !
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Spacegrass wrote:
> In case Julf did not already find this, you go on squeezebox.com to get
> the Tidal app. You need a squeezebox.com account, and Tidal is under
> "App Gallery".
>
slight correction. go to *my*squeezebox.com
https://www.mysqueezebox.com/index/Home
*Home:*
In case Julf did not already find this, you go on squeezebox.com to get
the Tidal app. You need a squeezebox.com account, and Tidal is under
"App Gallery".
Re Spotify alternatives, and at the risk of angering the open-source
gods, I note that if you have an Apple device you can stream Apple
bpa wrote:
> It is included in standard LMS distribution. Have you turned off
> mysqueezebox integration ?
Probably yes.
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many
Julf wrote:
> Tidal does not show up in my available plugins. Does it have to be
> installed separately?
No. It was in my inactive plugins section.
It is included in standard LMS distribution. Have you turned off
mysqueezebox integration ?
bpa wrote:
> You need to enable Tidal in mysqueezebox and enter your credentials
> Then after a bit of a delay 30-60 mins, assuming Tidal plugin has been
> installed (TIDAL v2.0) , menu item will appear under My Apps.
Tidal does not show up in my available plugins. Does it have to be
Of course, now all my 'New Music' albums are Qobuz Favourites
transferred from Spotify! I wonder if/how I might deal with that!
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I've been meaning to move from Spotify for some time now (the cash flow
issue*), and the latest rumpus has nudged me to start the process.
I have decided to give Qobuz a whirl (I already have an account for
buying downloads). I've transferred a few playlists and the albums in my
Spotify
hsmeets wrote:
> For streaming you can set it to
> MP3 320kbps
> CD 16b 44.1Khz
> Hires 24b up to 96Khz
> Hires 24b up to 196Khz
>
> Their cheapest plan gives access to music in all sample rates.
>
> What I see in the classical cataloque is that the majority is 24/96 or
> 24/88 material.
slartibartfast wrote:
> What stream quality do they provide on Qobuz? They offer 3 different
> qualities for download.
> https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/tuhu-gaelle-solal/qj8tvdbva06pc
> I wonder how they generate the hi-res downloads.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
For streaming
Redrum wrote:
> I am new to Tidal, on a trial, a couple random thoughts:
>
> 1) If you use android, the simple android app "lms connect" is wonderful
> for using the Tidal android app for your UI, and sharing your selection
> to the Tidal plugin:
>
hsmeets wrote:
> On Qobuz you can't escape MQA either. They don't mark/advertise albums
> as MQA but the one or the other album can be MQA'ed. They depend on what
> the labels push to them. Recently stumbled upon such recording, the
> booklet included mentioned it. Hybrid SACD Surround
On Qobuz you can't escape MQA either. They don't mark/advertise albums
as MQA but the one or the other album can be MQA'ed. They depend on what
the labels push to them. Recently stumbled upon such recording, the
booklet included mentioned it. Hybrid SACD Surround recording with the
stereo CD
I am new to Tidal, on a trial, a couple random thoughts:
1) If you use android, the simple android app "lms connect" is wonderful
for using the Tidal android app for your UI, and sharing your selection
to the Tidal plugin:
Julf wrote:
> Hmm. Moral dilemma. Tidal still promotes the MQA scam, Quobuz promotes
> "hi-res" with the utterly misleading (and erroneous) staircase pictures
> a la Sony. OK, neither is killing people, but
Don't pay for the MQA service and so not help the business case.
Hmm. Moral dilemma. Tidal still promotes the MQA scam, Quobuz promotes
"hi-res" with the utterly misleading (and erroneous) staircase pictures
a la Sony. OK, neither is killing people, but
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high
bpa wrote:
> You need to enable Tidal in mysqueezebox and enter your credentials
> Then after a bit of a delay 30-60 mins, assuming Tidal plugin has been
> installed (TIDAL v2.0) , menu item will appear under My Apps.
Ah! Thanks!
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be
Julf wrote:
> Tidal is available, but I don't have any plugin.
You need to enable Tidal in mysqueezebox and enter your credentials
Then after a bit of a delay 30-60 mins, assuming Tidal plugin has been
installed (TIDAL v2.0) , menu item will appear under My Apps.
garym wrote:
> I have a TIDAL plugin showing up in my LMS 8.x under plugins. I'm in
> the US. Is TIDAL available in your country?
Tidal is available, but I don't have any plugin.
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the
and it is also installed as an APP under my mysqueezebox.com. Maybe you
have to do that as well?
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> I don't see any plugin for it.
I have a TIDAL plugin showing up in my LMS 8.x under plugins. I'm in
the US. Is TIDAL available in your country?
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garym wrote:
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115849-Comparisons-between-current-(2022)-streaming-service-integrations
Thanks!
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge
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I have become addicted to spotify thanks to the great integration into
LMS that spotty provides, but as so many others, I would like to quit
spotify due to the misinformation they provide a platform for - wish
they had stayed a pure music service.
Are there other streaming services, available
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