castalla wrote:
> That's a sobering thought!
Sobering but surely not a surprise. No guarantees. The BBC plans seems
to change at short notice.
A new public API supposed to be available in 2015 - seems to have
stalled.
The API that was supposed to die in 2017 seems to be part of the basis
bpa wrote:
> ... but even the BBCiPlayer plugin's lifespan is not guaranteed.
That's a sobering thought!
LMS server: Pi Zero
Amp: Denon PMA-50
Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam,
Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google
Home
halasz wrote:
> I may be wrong but it seems some already are (although perhaps some
> programs just aren't available on listen again). For example listen
> again for "The Life Scientific" on Radio 4 gives this :.
For some unknown reason, the BBC have made some broadcasted programs
only
bpa wrote:
> However there are two worrying points.
> 1. How long will server keep responding to "5" version of "mediaset/pc"
> URLsI may be wrong but it seems some already are (although perhaps some
programs just aren't available on listen again). For example listen
again for "The Life
Just to document, what I discovered when looking to repair Applet after
latest BBC change and the changes I have made in the BBCRadioApplet.lua
file.
BBCRadioApplet plays "Listen Again" programs in FlashAAC via Adobe HDS
streams. BBC only shows HLS and DASH for Listen again in the BBC normal
Attached is a zip file to replace the Applet BBCRadioApplet.lua file.
The update deal with the recent issue (a BBC update) which broke "Listen
Again". The replacement file also fixes the "live" stream by playing
MP3 streams but no station logos or metadata.
To update, downlooad the attached
Definitely the "6" is an issue but testing Applet with Squeezeplay is
showing up another error with the BBC program URL. Not sure if this is
Squeezeplay specici or whether Touch also has the error.
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ChaoticMike wrote:
> Thanks again. It would appear BBC have a fairly cavalier approach to
> APIs, then? I suppose they are coming at it from the "we've got them,
> you want them and we aren't under any SLA or obligation to maintain them
> to an agreed description" point of view. Which I can
Thanks again. It would appear BBC have a fairly cavalier approach to
APIs, then? I suppose they are coming at it from the "we've got them,
you want them and we aren't under any SLA or obligation to maintain them
to an agreed description" point of view. Which I can sort of understand
but
ChaoticMike wrote:
> And we have a winner! Thanks!
>
> Depends what you mean by recently! I had an issue with LA about 2 or 3
> months ago, and you recommended then that I should upgrade to 1.6, which
> I did. I have no knowledge or understanding of the various CODEC
> preferences, and
bpa wrote:
> Did you just migrate from an older version of plugin ?
>
> The program doesn't play in HLS but plays OK in DASH so please change
> the BBCiPlayer setting to
> DASH > HLS > MP3 > FlashAAC
>
>
> I can't maintain the HLS stuff as I don't have any Apple gear and I
> don't know
ChaoticMike wrote:
> Is it worth saying that I usually control things with SqueezeControl
> from an Android phone? But for the purposes of elimination, I'm driving
> everything from the LMS web GUI.25807
Did you just migrate from an older version of plugin ?
The program doesn't play in HLS
bpa wrote:
> What player ?Either Duet players, or a Boom. Neither works.
> Are you pretending to be in UK using a VPN ? No, I'm a totally legal,
> licence-fee paying upstanding member of the public
> Exactly what menu sequence (e.g. Home->Radio->BBC iPlayer->BBC Radio 4
> FM ->15 Minute
ChaoticMike wrote:
> I am running 1.6, and also have the repo registered. I just set the
> 'automatically update plugins' check box and restarted LMS. The web
> interface shows me 'playing' a LA track, but there is silence. Any
> ideas? :-)
> Also, thanks so much for the work you do here.
>
I am running 1.6, and also have the repo registered. I just set the
'automatically update plugins' check box and restarted LMS. The web
interface shows me 'playing' a LA track, but there is silence. Any
ideas? :-)
Also, thanks so much for the work you do here.
Mike
halasz wrote:
> I couldn't manage by searching to find what this change is for - either
> seem to work and the radio seems to act the same either case so perhaps
> I didn't check the correct function.
>
> It is just for my curiosity - I do appreciate you all keeping this
> updated.
I'll
ChaoticMike wrote:
> Hi, my Max2play-powered installation has also stopped working on iPlayer
> Listen Again, with the same symptoms as halasz. All used to be fine, but
> the zip file referenced above
>
Hi, my Max2play-powered installation has also stopped working on iPlayer
Listen Again, with the same symptoms as halasz. All used to be fine, but
the zip file referenced above
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109446-BBCiplayer-play-it-again-list-shows-404=921098=1#post921098
seems
Thanks both, all working fine now.
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bbc_radio_one.xml - BBC Radio 1
bbc_1xtra.xml - BBC 1Xtra
bbc_radio_two.xml - BBC Radio 2
bbc_6music.xml - BBC 6Music
bbc_radio_three.xml - BBC Radio 3
bbc_radio_fourfm.xml - BBC Radio 4 FM
bbc_radio_fourlw.xml - BBC Radio 4 LW
bbc_radio_four_extra.xml - BBC Radio 4 Extra
bbc_radio_five_live.xml
I can advise that the BBC Radio Applet Listen Again is working perfectly
this morning. Thanks to all for their wise advice and help.
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The BBC internet radio services are still in a mess and many valid
requests are being refused. If the Applet was workgin before Christmas
- then I'd wait andnot do anything until BBC sorts out their issues.
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I have solved my listen live problem by retuning to tunein radio
feed...so just leaves the listen again applet.
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NickEJM wrote:
> Since yesterday I am no longer able to listen to BBC stations apart from
> R4 on my UE Squeeze Box Radio. I am not very technical but managed to
> upgrade the BBC Listen Again Applet with the help of BPA. Is there
> another work around? Thanks for any help.
Is there any reason
The BBC are having problems at the moment. If you have lost services
only recently I wouldn't panic until they have sorted themselves out.
7.7.2, 1 x SB3, 1 x Boom, 1 x Touch, 1 x Radio
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Man in a van wrote:
> Is there any reason not to upgrade the UE to Squeezebox radio and then
> do the "DASH" upgrade of your LMS?
IIRC the OP does not use an LMS server just radio (already upgraded to
SB) and mysb.com
Since yesterday I am no longer able to listen to BBC stations apart from
R4 on my UE Squeeze Box Radio. I am not very technical but managed to
upgrade the BBC Listen Again Applet with the help of BPA. Is there
another work around? Thanks for any help.
NickEJM wrote:
> I have solved my listen live problem by retuning to tunein radio
> feed...so just leaves the listen again applet.
IIRC Since last Feb the live feeds on the BBC Applet have been broken so
you use the Logitech BBC app (under My Apps) to play live BBC stream
(MP3 format).
What do
castalla wrote:
Yes. Radio will reboot - then you can ssh in and copy the lua file
across
Hello. First time I've posted on any Touch forum, and unlike most
posters here, I've very little understanding of IT DIY when it comes to
changing things in the SBT. Used to listen mainly to R3 HD
Ah - I now see I have posted before. Forgive the short-term memory loss.
Must be my age!
Forgot to add the obvious, but just to avoid misunderstanding - all the
above done with ssh enabled on the SBT
J
Jonathan*'s
bpa wrote:
The patch is change to the Applet code that runs inside Radio / Touch.
The BBC change their URLs and this patch allows Radio.Touch to find the
Flash URL again. Unfortunately BBC are committed to turning off the
Flash URL at some time in the near future so this patch is buying
castalla wrote:
You're confusing the BBC app (from Logitech) with the BBC Radio applet -
that's installable via Settings - Advanced - Applet Installer.
I do this on the Radio itself, right?
Settings - Advanced - Applet Installer.
chrisinparis wrote:
I do this on the Radio itself, right?
Settings - Advanced - Applet Installer.
Yes. Radio will reboot - then you can ssh in and copy the lua file
across
Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech Radio
Logitech UE Smart Radio
Raspberry Pi +
I have the iPlayer app for my Radio and tried uninstalling and then
reinstalling the app (via the http://mysqueezebox.com/), but however I
find no BBC at all after ssh'ing my radio:
Code:
# find / -iname bbc
find: /mnt/overlay: Operation not permitted
find:
chrisinparis wrote:
I have the iPlayer app for my Radio and tried uninstalling and then
reinstalling the app (via the http://mysqueezebox.com/), but however I
find no BBC at all after ssh'ing my radio:
Code:
# find / -iname bbc
find: /mnt/overlay: Operation
bpa wrote:
There is a Logitech App for BBC Radio with updated streams. I think you
need to uninstall and then reinstall to get the update.
Most of the time OSX is like Linux so I'd try the scp command detailed
in post 1
bpa,
Thanks, when you say -*For example using scp from current
Man in a van wrote:
Thanks, when you say -*For example using scp from current directory *-
does that mean any specific file location or does he just download and
unzip the file to the Desktop and then open Terminal and type in the
command?
Like all advice, if the user is not familiar with
Man in a van wrote:
Thanks bpa, I have just done this on my Touch and the listen again is
BONA!
It's a pity that the live streams don't work.
Now, I used WinScp to transfer the file but I have a friend with one of
those Apple products, how would I instruct him to perform the
necessary?
Thanks bpa, I have just done this on my Touch and the listen again is
BONA!
It's a pity that the live streams don't work.
Now, I used WinScp to transfer the file but I have a friend with one of
those Apple products, how would I instruct him to perform the necessary?
Would he use Terminal? and
Man in a van wrote:
It's a pity that the live streams don't work.
There is a Logitech App for BBC Radio with updated streams.
Would he use Terminal? and what would the commands be?
Most of the time OSX is like Linux so I'd try the scp command detailed
in post 1
dcassidy wrote:
Quick question, I presume only the latest episode is available for EACH
radio show..
For example: On Radio 2 Bob Harris Ultimate Playlist will play just
grand but it only offers (curretly at the time of writing) Episode 2
eventhough through the BBC Website Episode 1 is
Quick question, I presume only the latest episode is available for EACH
radio show..
For example: On Radio 2 Bob Harris Ultimate Playlist will play just
grand but it only offers (curretly at the time of writing) Episode 2
eventhough through the BBC Website Episode 1 is still available to
listen.
bpa wrote:
The patch is change to the Applet code that runs inside Radio / Touch.
The BBC change their URLs and this patch allows Radio.Touch to find the
Flash URL again. Unfortunately BBC are committed to turning off the
Flash URL at some time in the near future so this patch is buying
Many thanks for clarfying this ..perfect explanation !!!
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bpa wrote:
I've uploaded a new version in post #1.
This seemed to be caused by program with multiple version of different
bitrate. Not common outside the UK.
Out of curiousity - did this problem mainly happen with regional station
such as Scotland, Wales etc. or with R1, R2 etc.
Another quick update - this one just brings back pictures
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gerryt wrote:
I thought this was working ok for me, on touch and radio in UK, until I
realised I'd only tried radio 3 - no other stations do.
Gerry
I've uploaded a new version in post #1.
This seemed to be caused by program with multiple version of different
bitrate. Not common outside
gerryt wrote:
I thought this was working ok for me, on touch and radio in UK, until I
realised I'd only tried radio 3 - no other stations do.
Gerry
and /var/log/messages says:
Mar 13 16:05:14 squeezeplay: INFO applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:619 sending play request to SlimServer
bpa wrote:
Recent changes to BBC Listen Again have broken Triode's BBC Radio
Applet.
Attached below is a replacement file for the Applet which works ok for
me but I'm outside the UK so perhaps UK users can also test and see if
it is a good fix.
..
I thought this was working ok for
Please excuse ignorance-I only dive into this stuff when need be, and
since the Triode app has died for Play Again stuff on BBC-I'm now
obliged to try something. Part of bpa's fix starts with Make sure you
can ssh login into Radio... In plain English, what does that mean,
especially ssh?
Frank Duck wrote:
Please excuse ignorance-I only dive into this stuff when need be, and
since the Triode app has died for Play Again stuff on BBC-I'm now
obliged to try something. Part of bpa's fix starts with Make sure you
can ssh login into Radio... In plain English, what does that mean,
majones wrote:
I may have got the wrong end of the stick, but does this mean that
BBCiPlayer could access HDS streams without needing the PlayHLS plugin
and ffmpeg?
Yes and no.
HDS cannot be played with PlayHLS and ffmpeg so you need a different
player in this case php (command line) and a
bpa wrote:
HDS cannot be played with PlayHLS and ffmpeg so you need a different
player in this case php (command line) and a script AdobeHDS.php
probably packaged as PlayHDS !! Oh Joy.
Full marks for discovering that! :cool:
bpa wrote:
All is not lost I can play BBC HDS live streams.
FYI The HDS live streams (non UK at least) include - I'm sure UK user
can guess the UK equivalent and quality.
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_one.f4m
bpa wrote:
Since BBC are the hunt for a format which cannot be played except by
their players - I expect we'll need a PlayHDS except AFAICT ffmpeg, vlc
and mplayer cannot play it - perfect for BBC but don't worry I expect
Apple won't allow an Adobe format player on their system
All is not
bpa wrote:
All is not lost I can play BBC HDS live streams.
FYI The HDS live streams (non UK at least) include - I'm sure UK user
can guess the UK equivalent and quality.
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_one.f4m
TheLastMan wrote:
Play them on what hardware or OS? Windows, Linux,
Play in the context of LMS. Yes
BBC already uses them on the Flash based web page Radio playing Live
iOS or Android?
Don't care.
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bpa wrote:
TheLastMan wrote:
Play them on what hardware or OS? Windows, Linux, Play in the context of
LMS. Yes
Thanks for clarifying that.
iOS or Android? Don't care.:)
Matt
http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK
SQUEEZEBOXES:[/B] TWO SB DUETS (LIVING ROOM AND KITCHEN) AND A
ncameron wrote:
I have LMS on Windows 8.1 with multiple Squeezeboxes and Booms, but no
Touch. I have no such directory structure as you describe, and I have no
*.lua file anywhere on my had drive. Yet I use Triode's PlugIn and my
Listen Again has also broken. Am I missing something obvious?
ncameron wrote:
Am I missing something obvious?
Quite probably. The BBC iPlayer applet runs on a Touch, or Radio, which
you do not seem to have.
There is a separate thread for the LMS BBC iPlayer plugin. I think
that's what you're after.
Revised version works for listen again from outside UK. Thanks bpa for
your efforts.
- martin
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bpa wrote:
Recent changes to BBC Listen Again have broken Triode's BBC Radio
Applet.
Attached below is a replacement file for the Applet which works ok for
me but I'm outside the UK so perhaps UK users can also test and see if
it is a good fix.
1. Download and unzip the file.
2. Make
bpa wrote:
No a HDS stream (HDS is Adobe's version of chunked HTTP competes against
Apple's HLS).
The issue is RTMP (which is what Flash/AAC uses) is implemented in
BBCiPlayer plugin and Applet to deliver Listen Again. The question I had
was BBC couldn't move to HLS because PC browsers
castalla wrote:
Sorry - you've lost me (again!)
Oh - I see now - Live is getting an HLS stream.
No a HDS stream (HDS is Adobe's version of chunked HTTP competes against
Apple's HLS).
The issue is RTMP (which is what Flash/AAC uses) is implemented in
BBCiPlayer plugin and Applet to deliver
majones wrote:
Presumably all programming post-RTMP will have HLS streams (assuming we
can find them) so that we can play them courtesy of your PlayHLS plugin
and ffmpeg. But it's going to get messy if BBCiPlayer defaults to HDS
streams (that we can't play at present) - which is the problem
majones wrote:
I have loads of questions that I could ask, but probably the most
significant is whether we'll need a PlayHDS plugin?
Since BBC are the hunt for a format which cannot be played except by
their players - I expect we'll need a PlayHDS except AFAICT ffmpeg, vlc
and mplayer cannot
bpa wrote:
Since BBC are the hunt for a format which cannot be played except by
their players - I expect we'll need a PlayHDS except AFAICT ffmpeg, vlc
and mplayer cannot play it - perfect for BBC but don't worry I expect
Apple won't allow an Adobe format player on their system Presumably
bpa wrote:
No a HDS stream (HDS is Adobe's version of chunked HTTP competes against
Apple's HLS).
The issue is RTMP (which is what Flash/AAC uses) is implemented in
BBCiPlayer plugin and Applet to deliver Listen Again. The question I had
was BBC couldn't move to HLS because PC browsers
Updated the Lua file in Post #1 to cope with latest BBC change.
It seems to work and can play Listen Again RTMP files - while BBc still
puts them up.
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castalla wrote:
If you got live working as well then you'd enter the Hall of Fame as
voted for by radio owners!
Just checked on Linux PC - what I thought was an RTMP stream playing on
Flash is in fact HDS playing on Flash
bpa wrote:
Just checked on Linux PC - what I thought was an RTMP stream playing on
Flash is in fact HDS playing on Flash
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_6music.f4m
HDS live 6 music is
Code:
castalla wrote:
Nope - nothing. No live and no listen again . play
The fix is only for Listen Again.
Are UK or non UK ?
Is it Radio or Touch ?
The BBC Radio menu setting (just below BBC York) is set to Highest
Bitrate and not WMA or AAC/MP3
Can you turn set logging applet.BBCRadio to
All I get is 'connecting.'
In UK
On a Touch and tried to play first programme from today on BBC4Extra
Mar 9 09:38:00 squeezeplay: DEBUG applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:156 tzoffset: 0
Mar 9 09:38:04 squeezeplay: INFO applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:238 fetching:
bpa wrote:
The fix is only for Listen Again.
Are UK or non UK ?
Is it Radio or Touch ?
The BBC Radio menu setting (just below BBC York) is set to Highest
Bitrate and not WMA or AAC/MP3
Oops - gave a bum steer - must have been too late last night. Listen
again works when I tried it
bpa wrote:
The changes were only to the Listen Again. Live streams are already
available elsewhere so I didn' want to waste time.
I'll do a quick to see if I can get the RTMP live working.
If you got live working as well then you'd enter the Hall of Fame as
voted for by radio owners!
castalla wrote:
Should live work? I guess not, when I engage my brain - given the
changes the BBC have made.
The changes were only to the Listen Again. Live streams are already
available elsewhere so I didn' want to waste time.
I'll do a quick to see if I can get the RTMP live working.
bpa wrote:
Recent changes to BBC Listen Again have broken Triode's BBC Radio
Applet.
Attached below is a replacement file for the Applet which works ok for
me but I'm outside the UK so perhaps UK users can also test and see if
it is a good fix.
1. Download and unzip the file.
2. Make
Recent changes to BBC Listen Again have broken Triode's BBC Radio
Applet.
Attached below is a replacement file for the Applet which works ok for
me but I'm outside the UK so perhaps UK users can also test and see if
it is a good fix.
1. Download and unzip the file.
2. Make sure you can ssh
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