Hello Henk
On 02.08.2012 17:32, Henk P. Penning wrote:
In the meantime, join the .tr pool, and enjoy the spikes!
On my servers they went constantly down during the last few days,
see [1].
[1] http://www.home4u.ch/ntp/week.html
Worry only about bandwidth ; your server can take
Hello Ask
On 03.08.2012 20:39, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote:
If we can't at some point we'll figure out to block them, but
as long as people are willing to put up their servers to take
the load (abuse?), then let's do that.
I am also supporting your decision to first try to talk to them
to find
Turk Telekom
My 2p's worth...
Unless the amount of traffic starts to disrupt others I agree we shouldn't
block them. Adding more servers to the .tr zone is a good short term fix,
but surely the long term has to be to address the route cause - why are
they sending so much traffic? Badly
Quoting Laurence who wrote on Sat 2012-08-04 at 10:48:
Ideally they could add some servers to the
pool. Someone from TT tried once, but the routers he added fell over
immediately when they were included in the pool.
Routers fell over? Was that a typo for servers or are their customers
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012, Mouse wrote:
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:24:29 +0200
From: Mouse mo...@rodents-montreal.org
To: pool@lists.ntp.org
Subject: Re: [Pool] Taking down my NTP server in Turkey
Sender: pool-bounces+henkp=cs.uu...@lists.ntp.org
They're using the tr country-code zone? Then I have
On Thursday 02 August 2012, Henk P. Penning wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012, Mouse wrote:
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:24:29 +0200
From: Mouse mo...@rodents-montreal.org
To: pool@lists.ntp.org
Subject: Re: [Pool] Taking down my NTP server in Turkey
Sender: pool-bounces+henkp=cs.uu
Sent: Viernes, 03 de Agosto de 2012 08:59 a.m.
To: pool@lists.ntp.org
Subject: Re: [Pool] Taking down my NTP server in Turkey
If it's ok that a server is in England, then I can donate it to the zone for
now.
- Svavar Kjarrval
On 02/08/12 15:32, Henk P. Penning wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012, Mouse
Hi there,
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012, Rob Oats wrote:
Do yourself a favour and save your sympathy for someone or something more
deserving.
Couldn't agree more. Do yourselves a favour and firewall Turkey.
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Ged.
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Op 3-8-2012 15:59, Svavar Kjarrval schreef:
If it's ok that a server is in England, then I can donate it to the zone
for now.
- Svavar Kjarrval
On 02/08/12 15:32, Henk P. Penning wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012, Mouse wrote:
pool@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/pool
Yes, it's okay to
Hi everyone,
Blocking Turk Telekom customers/devices from using the pool is an option and if
at some point supporting them becomes unsustainable we'll figure out how to do
it. As long as we can sustain it, I'd rather we do that.
Obviously getting a contact there who can help would be much
- The job of the NTP Pool is to be the first choice when needing
basic NTP service. It's the whole reason we're doing this.
True. I sometimes lose sight of that.
However - and here I should emphasize that this is a strictly personal
viewpoint - I am interested in helping others on the net
Anssi Johansson kirjoitti:
I'm currently verifying my only pool.ntp.org is used theory by
monitoring when my server is included in the tr zone for each of the
subdomains. Graphs [3,4,5,6,7]. To make the measurements a bit easier,
I've temporarily removed the 2nd IP address of my server from
Hello Anssi
On 30.07.2012 22:21, Anssi Johansson wrote:
I believe the proper way to estimate the average request rate is to
estimate the total volume of requests for .tr and sum up all the
bandwidth figures of all the servers serving .tr, and divide the traffic
among the servers based on the
Hello Ask
On 31.07.2012 03:38, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote:
… and I wouldn't be surprised if many/most of the clients are
using a few DNS resolvers. If the spikes don't get
significantly less with the extra servers added I can try
As in my previous posting, it really seems to be that way, high
Quoting Fabian Wenk who wrote on Wed 2012-08-01 at 11:52:
First, did anybody try to contact Turk Telekom regarding this behavior of
their CPE? Eventually this are managed ADSL / VDSL routers, which they
give to their customers, but are still able to change configurations (or
update
2012/8/1 Fabian Wenk fab...@wenks.ch
Hello Ask
On 31.07.2012 03:38, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote:
… and I wouldn't be surprised if many/most of the clients are
using a few DNS resolvers. If the spikes don't get
significantly less with the extra servers added I can try
As in my previous
First, did anybody try to contact Turk Telekom regarding this
behavior of their CPE? [...]
Several attempts have been made in the past, [...]. None have
resulted in any improvements in the ntp behaviour in those routers.
They're using the tr country-code zone? Then I have to wonder why we
Quoting Rob Janssen who wrote on Wed 2012-08-01 at 20:05:
Mouse wrote:
They're using the tr country-code zone? Then I have to wonder why we
still have a tr zone. As *ahem* unfortunate as it would be for other
Turks, it appears Turk Telekom is uninterested in participating in the
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:05:05PM +0200, Rob Janssen wrote:
Considering the quality of the code in those routers, removing the DNS name
that
they are looking for will probably result in a DOS attack on the DNS
servers.
But given a reasonable SOA minimum, it should be absorbed by Turk
Op 1-8-2012 20:05, Rob Janssen schreef:
Mouse wrote:
They're using the tr country-code zone? Then I have to wonder why we
still have a tr zone. As *ahem* unfortunate as it would be for other
Turks, it appears Turk Telekom is uninterested in participating in the
cooperative, mutually helpful
On 8/1/12 10:07 PM, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
Considering the quality of the code in those routers, removing the DNS name
that
they are looking for will probably result in a DOS attack on the DNS
servers.
But given a reasonable SOA minimum, it should be absorbed by Turk
Telekom's DNS
Hello
On 27.07.2012 15:44, Fabian Wenk wrote:
On 27.07.2012 14:53, Koos van den Hout wrote:
We have a server (ntp.cs.uu.nl) which is included in the .tr zone and rated
at gigabit speed. It's placed in the network in such a way that no stateful
firewall is in the way.
My systems are also
On Monday, July 30, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Anssi Johansson wrote:
However, the average is the important word here as there will be
traffic bursts. The traffic bursts will only become less frequent when
more servers are added, but it won't reduce the peak values. This is
because most traffic from
You can add my server to the .tr zone if you want:
Hostname: *ntp.charliecame.com*
IP: *87.98.254.133 http://www.pool.ntp.org/scores/87.98.254.133*
On 27 July 2012 17:00, Stephan Seitz s.se...@secretresearchfacility.comwrote:
Hi Ask,
don't know if it's of much help, but if there's a need for
On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Charlie Came char...@charliecame.com wrote:
You can add my server to the .tr zone if you want:
Hostname: ntp.charliecame.com
IP: 87.98.254.133
Thanks Charlie, I've added yours and the others that have volunteered over the
last few days.
Hopefully it should
Hello Ask
On 27.07.2012 06:48, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote:
There are a few servers in the tr zone now, though most are
configured to not get too much of the traffic.
If anyone else wants to serve some extra requests, let me know
and I can add your server to the tr zone. :-)
When I look at the
I too have asked Ask to include one of my machines in the tr zone.
--
Wessel
Op 27 jul. 2012 om 14:10 heeft Fabian Wenk fab...@wenks.ch het volgende
geschreven:
Hello Ask
On 27.07.2012 06:48, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote:
There are a few servers in the tr zone now, though most are
configured
Hello Koos
On 27.07.2012 14:53, Koos van den Hout wrote:
We have a server (ntp.cs.uu.nl) which is included in the .tr zone and rated
at gigabit speed. It's placed in the network in such a way that no stateful
firewall is in the way.
My systems are also connected directly to the internet, so
Hello,
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Anssi Johansson timekee...@miuku.net
wrote:
Hi, it's been 2.5 years since I set up a NTP server in Turkey to reduce
the effects of Turk Telekom's routers querying the pool NTP servers. I
think this method has worked quite nicely, with the server
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 at 6:43, Anssi Johansson wrote:
Hi, it's been 2.5 years since I set up a NTP server in Turkey to reduce
the effects of Turk Telekom's routers querying the pool NTP servers. I
think this method has worked quite nicely, with the server serving some
1400-1500
Hi, it's been 2.5 years since I set up a NTP server in Turkey to reduce
the effects of Turk Telekom's routers querying the pool NTP servers. I
think this method has worked quite nicely, with the server serving some
1400-1500 packets/sec on average[1] for the last year. I was hoping that
at
2012/7/24 Anssi Johansson timekee...@miuku.net:
Hi, it's been 2.5 years since I set up a NTP server in Turkey to reduce the
effects of Turk Telekom's routers querying the pool NTP servers. I think
this method has worked quite nicely, with the server serving some 1400-1500
packets/sec on
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