Re: Modifying software written to a "Standards" document - was Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Nick Holland
Ian McWilliam wrote: ... > Can anybody explain why is it acceptable to modify a "standard" for > "ports" but not not for "base"? I think "Standards" is a bogus argument here. That's not what this is about. Try this way of looking at it: The author of xpdf wants DRM in the source code. That is

Re: Modifying software written to a "Standards" document - was Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Ian McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stephan Andre' wrote: > > > On Friday 25 April 2008 20:49:00 Ian McWilliam wrote: > > > > > > > Ok, Not really wanting to comment on this call me a troll, call me > > > want you want but > > > > > > The following

Re: Modifying software written to a "Standards" document - was Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Saturday, April 26, Ian McWilliam wrote: > > Why has the 100 character limit filenames stored in a tar archive not > been modified away from its documented standard. (We all know it's 100 > character limit is arcane in modern terms. Please use google and find out what gnu tar has done in thi

Re: Modifying software written to a "Standards" document - was Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Ian McWilliam
Stephan Andre' wrote: On Friday 25 April 2008 20:49:00 Ian McWilliam wrote: Ok, Not really wanting to comment on this call me a troll, call me want you want but The following rant in NOT about GPL licensing. I am neither supporting or denying the the said change to xdpf. Thi

Re: Modifying software written to a "Standards" document - was Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Friday, April 25, "Chris Kuethe" wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Ian McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can anybody explain why is it acceptable to modify a "standard" for "ports" > > but not not for "base"? > > I'm going to guess that the core reason is "what helps more users?"

Re: Modifying software written to a "Standards" document - was Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Ian McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anybody explain why is it acceptable to modify a "standard" for "ports" > but not not for "base"? I'm going to guess that the core reason is "what helps more users?": - A pdf spec that's written to sell the illusion

Re: Modifying software written to a "Standards" document - was Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Stephan Andre'
On Friday 25 April 2008 20:49:00 Ian McWilliam wrote: > Ok, Not really wanting to comment on this call me a troll, call me > want you want but > > The following rant in NOT about GPL licensing. > I am neither supporting or denying the the said change to xdpf. > This is a discussion

Modifying software written to a "Standards" document - was Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Ian McWilliam
Ok, Not really wanting to comment on this call me a troll, call me want you want but The following rant in NOT about GPL licensing. I am neither supporting or denying the the said change to xdpf. This is a discussion about modifying "standards".. What is hypocrytical here is th

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Travers Buda
* Martin Schr?der <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-25 23:33:05]: > 2008/4/25 Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You mean this part? > > > > "For those who would argue that important content might get > > irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you that > > Xpdf is open source, a

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 01:26:53AM +0200, Martin Schr?der wrote: | 2008/4/26 Paul de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | > golden. If you disagree (which I fear), could you please state what | > part of section 2 you are actually referring to ? What is the problem | > according to you ? | | a) wants t

NEW: tcltutor

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Cassoff
One less excuse not to learn Tcl! I did find the license to be a bit strange but I think I got the PERMIT_* vars right. Bloody licenses. :/ Stu Comment: learn Tcl interactively Description: This is a package designed to teach the Tcl programming language in a quick and easy manner. The goal

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/26 Paul de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > golden. If you disagree (which I fear), could you please state what > part of section 2 you are actually referring to ? What is the problem > according to you ? a) wants the notion in the modified file, i.e. the patch should also add a note to the

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:43:42AM +0200, Martin Schr?der wrote: | 2008/4/26 Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | > Huh? The wishes are gpl; the patch is available so all gpl requirements | > have been met. Why in the world is this being debated? | > | > If your logic was true all linux distr

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/26 Tobias Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2. > a) Yup, there it is, complete with dates: > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/textproc/xpdf/patches/ The modified file? But I rest my case; 4 lines are not worth the trouble. Best Martin

Re: UPDATE: mcabber-0.9.7

2008-04-25 Thread Peter Valchev
updated, thanks! On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Markus Hennecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This patch will bring the mcabber port to the version 0.9.7 released > today. Included is the resize fix for OpenBSD. > > Tested by Simon Kuhnle and myself on amd64. Please test and commit. > > Kind r

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:43:42AM +0200, Martin Schr?der wrote: > 2008/4/26 Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Huh? The wishes are gpl; the patch is available so all gpl requirements > > have been met. Why in the world is this being debated? > > > > If your logic was true all linux distr

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Martin Schröder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/26 Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Huh? The wishes are gpl; the patch is available so all gpl requirements > > have been met. Why in the world is this being debated? > > > > If your logic was true

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Martin Schröder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/25 Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > "For those who would argue that important content might get > > irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you that > > Xpdf is open source, and can be m

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/26 Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Huh? The wishes are gpl; the patch is available so all gpl requirements > have been met. Why in the world is this being debated? > > If your logic was true all linux distributions would be breaking the > rules because everyone patches stuff. Ho

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Marco Peereboom
Huh? The wishes are gpl; the patch is available so all gpl requirements have been met. Why in the world is this being debated? If your logic was true all linux distributions would be breaking the rules because everyone patches stuff. How did you even come up with this? On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:16:48PM +, Miod Vallat wrote: > > > "For those who would argue that important content might get > > > irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you that > > > Xpdf is open source, and can be modified by end users (the GPL > > > even allows this)." > >

Re: Automaticallly stop builds if they'll be breaked with installed version

2008-04-25 Thread Vadim Zhukov
26 April 2008 г. 01:46:32 Steven Mestdagh wrote: > > > > > > Patch below adds support of a BUILD_BROKES_WHEN_INSTALLED > > > > > > variable. If this variable is set, port's building process > > > > > > will be prohibited if some version of port is already > > > > > > installed. Glib2 is a good exam

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Miod Vallat
> > "For those who would argue that important content might get > > irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you that > > Xpdf is open source, and can be modified by end users (the GPL > > even allows this)." > > Go ahead, ignore the authors wishes. Show your disrespect. Your logi

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:25:13PM +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: > > "For those who would argue that important content might get > > irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you that > > Xpdf is open source, and can be modified by end users (the GPL > > even allows this)." > > Go a

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:25:13PM +0200, Martin Schr?der wrote: > 2008/4/25 Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > "For those who would argue that important content might get > > irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you that > > Xpdf is open source, and can be modified by end

UPDATE: mcabber-0.9.7

2008-04-25 Thread Markus Hennecke
This patch will bring the mcabber port to the version 0.9.7 released today. Included is the resize fix for OpenBSD. Tested by Simon Kuhnle and myself on amd64. Please test and commit. Kind regards, Markus Index: Makefile === RCS fi

Re: Automaticallly stop builds if they'll be breaked with installed version

2008-04-25 Thread Steven Mestdagh
> > > > > Patch below adds support of a BUILD_BROKES_WHEN_INSTALLED > > > > > variable. If this variable is set, port's building process will > > > > > be prohibited if some version of port is already installed. > > > > > Glib2 is a good example of a port needs such prohibition. > > > > > > > > > >

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
> 2008/4/25 Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You mean this part? > > > > "For those who would argue that important content might get > > irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you that > > Xpdf is open source, and can be modified by end users (the GPL > > even allows this

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/25 Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You mean this part? > > "For those who would argue that important content might get > irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you that > Xpdf is open source, and can be modified by end users (the GPL > even allows this)." While an

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Travers Buda
* Martin Schr?der <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-25 23:23:17]: > 2008/4/25 Travers Buda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > This part? > > Troll. > > Wow. -- Travers Buda

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/25 Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "For those who would argue that important content might get > irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you that > Xpdf is open source, and can be modified by end users (the GPL > even allows this)." Go ahead, ignore the authors wishe

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/25 Travers Buda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This part? Troll.

Re: Automaticallly stop builds if they'll be breaked with installed version

2008-04-25 Thread Vadim Zhukov
25 April 2008 г. 18:39:16 Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2008/04/25 18:35, Vadim Zhukov wrote: > > 25 April 2008 ?. 18:09:28 Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > On 2008/04/25 17:32, Vadim Zhukov wrote: > > > > Patch below adds support of a BUILD_BROKES_WHEN_INSTALLED > > > > variable. If this variable is s

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Peter Valchev
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Floor Terra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There are similar checks to prevent printing for example. You > > only need to put "return 1;" in OkToPrint()[1]. It's trivial > > to change the source and recompile if you

PATCH: packetstorm mirrors

2008-04-25 Thread Jim Razmus
Sync our list with the current official list. Questions? Jim Index: network.conf.template === RCS file: /openbsd/mirror/ports/infrastructure/templates/network.conf.template,v retrieving revision 1.120 diff -u -p -r1.120 network.conf.

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Travers Buda
* Martin Schr?der <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-25 17:32:26]: > 2008/4/25 Travers Buda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > There is plenty of precedent for this sort of thing. Plus, xpdf > > is GPL 2, so we're not dealing with some sort of Iceweasel or Apache > > type malarkey. It's not an issue. > > Re

Re: NEW: BWidget

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Cassoff
From: Steven Mestdagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Stuart Cassoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: ports@openbsd.org Subject: Re: NEW: BWidget Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:57:32 +0200 this is already in the tree under x11/bwidget So it is ... I simply *must* update my ports tree. Well ... do with it whatever y

Re: UPDATE: cups-pdf-2.4.7

2008-04-25 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 05:46:36PM +0200, Bernd Ahlers wrote: > Hey! > > Attached is an update to cups-pdf-2.4.7. > > I made it install the cups-pdf-dispatch tool which is nice for > sending the PDFs via email. > > Please test and comment. > > Thanks, > Bernd hey, ok with me. i had the s

Re: NEW: BWidget

2008-04-25 Thread Steven Mestdagh
this is already in the tree under x11/bwidget

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Todd T. Fries
Kill the DRM! DIE DIE DIE In theory, around Friday 25 April 2008 10:22:42 Deanna Phillips wrote: > Floor Terra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > There are similar checks to prevent printing for example. You > > only need to put "return 1;" in OkToPrint()[1]. It's trivial > > to change the s

UPDATE: cups-pdf-2.4.7

2008-04-25 Thread Bernd Ahlers
Hey! Attached is an update to cups-pdf-2.4.7. I made it install the cups-pdf-dispatch tool which is nice for sending the PDFs via email. Please test and comment. Thanks, Bernd Makefile | 22 +- distinfo | 10 +

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Deanna Phillips
"Martin Schröder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2008/4/25 Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> anyone, ok? > > http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/cracking.html You mean this part? "For those who would argue that important content might get irretrievably locked away in PDF format, I'll remind you th

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/25 Travers Buda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There is plenty of precedent for this sort of thing. Plus, xpdf > is GPL 2, so we're not dealing with some sort of Iceweasel or Apache > type malarkey. It's not an issue. Read section 2 of the GPL2 please. Best Martin

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/25 Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > anyone, ok? http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/cracking.html Best Martin

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Deanna Phillips
Floor Terra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There are similar checks to prevent printing for example. You > only need to put "return 1;" in OkToPrint()[1]. It's trivial > to change the source and recompile if you need to. That is much nicer. Here's a new diff from brad that uses your method. Work

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Travers Buda
* Martin Schr?der <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-25 10:00:22]: > 2008/4/25 Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thank you very much for your opinion, but it is clear you come > > with an agenda. > > > > The OpenBSD project people do not follow the "bend to Adobe" agenda > > that some xpdf peop

NEW: BWidget

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Cassoff
Comes with docs & examples, no extra charge and no salesman will call. Stu Comment: megawidget set for Tcl/Tk Description: The BWidgets have a professional look&feel as in other well known Toolkits, but the concept is radically different because everything is pure Tcl/Tk. No platform dependen

Re: Automaticallly stop builds if they'll be breaked with installed version

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/04/25 18:35, Vadim Zhukov wrote: > 25 April 2008 ?. 18:09:28 Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2008/04/25 17:32, Vadim Zhukov wrote: > > > Patch below adds support of a BUILD_BROKES_WHEN_INSTALLED variable. > > > If this variable is set, port's building process will be prohibited > > > if some

Re: Automaticallly stop builds if they'll be breaked with installed version

2008-04-25 Thread Vadim Zhukov
25 April 2008 г. 18:09:28 Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2008/04/25 17:32, Vadim Zhukov wrote: > > Patch below adds support of a BUILD_BROKES_WHEN_INSTALLED variable. > > If this variable is set, port's building process will be prohibited > > if some version of port is already installed. Glib2 is a g

Re: Automaticallly stop builds if they'll be breaked with installed version

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/04/25 17:32, Vadim Zhukov wrote: > Patch below adds support of a BUILD_BROKES_WHEN_INSTALLED variable. If > this variable is set, port's building process will be prohibited if some > version of port is already installed. Glib2 is a good example of a port > needs such prohibition. > > No

Re: NEW: devel/tklib

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Cassoff
Small change of installed dir tklib0.4 -> tklib Stu From: "Stuart Cassoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ports@openbsd.org Subject: NEW: devel/tklib Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:31:21 + Tk Standard Library A collection of pure-Tcl utility modules and widgets for Tk that provide a wide variety of

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, [ISO-8859-1] Andrés wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Deanna Phillips > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's some DRM code left in xpdf that prevents me from copying > > text. > > > > This kills it. ok? > > Please, don't add things like this to the ports tree. It'

Re: UPDATE: devel/tcllib

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Cassoff
Small change of installed dir name tcllib1.10 -> tcllib I forgot to mention that Snit is now part of tcllib, so devel/snit can be removed; I don't think anything depends on it and if it does the dependency should probably be easy to change to tcllib. Stu From: "Stuart Cassoff" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Automaticallly stop builds if they'll be breaked with installed version

2008-04-25 Thread Vadim Zhukov
Patch below adds support of a BUILD_BROKES_WHEN_INSTALLED variable. If this variable is set, port's building process will be prohibited if some version of port is already installed. Glib2 is a good example of a port needs such prohibition. No manpage changes yet, I want to get response for the

Re: NEW x11/tkcon

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/04/25 10:47, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2008/04/25 09:34, Stuart Cassoff wrote: > > I had a problem building this port, when I make update-plist I get this > > message: > > Subpackage -: Stripping dirs from x11/tk/8.5 > > that's normal. > I wanted to post that early to avoid half a do

Re: NEW x11/tkcon

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/04/25 09:34, Stuart Cassoff wrote: > I had a problem building this port, when I make update-plist I get this > message: > Subpackage -: Stripping dirs from x11/tk/8.5 that's normal.

NEW x11/tkcon

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Cassoff
I had a problem building this port, when I make update-plist I get this message: Subpackage -: Stripping dirs from x11/tk/8.5 Otherwise it all seems to work. Scratching my head ... Stu Enhanced Tk console. A replacement for the standard console that comes with Tk, tkcon provides many more fea

UPDATE: devel/tcllib

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Cassoff
Update to version 1.10. Simpler/cleaner port. Examples are now installed. Regression tests enabled. Put myself as maintainer (if that's ok). Stu tcllib-1.10-port.tar.gz Description: application/gzip

NEW: devel/tklib

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Cassoff
Tk Standard Library A collection of pure-Tcl utility modules and widgets for Tk that provide a wide variety of functionality. The intent is to collect commonly used functions into a single library, which users can rely on to be available and stable. Included are the following modules, and much m

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Re: Updated Tcl/Tk 8.5.2 ports.

2008-04-25 Thread Stuart Cassoff
Here's a small but very useful update to Tcl/Tk. The only difference is now tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh are patched to make it a little easier to build Tcl/Tk extensions against the installed Tcl/Tk. This should reduce (by about one) the patches needed to port some extensions, especially those

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
> 2008/4/25 Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thank you very much for your opinion, but it is clear you come > > with an agenda. > > > > The OpenBSD project people do not follow the "bend to Adobe" agenda > > that some xpdf people follow. > > While it's always nice to blame Adobe, please

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Brad
On Friday 25 April 2008 04:00:22 Martin Schröder wrote: > 2008/4/25 Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thank you very much for your opinion, but it is clear you come > > with an agenda. > > > > The OpenBSD project people do not follow the "bend to Adobe" agenda > > that some xpdf people fol

Re: DRM in xpdf

2008-04-25 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/25 Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thank you very much for your opinion, but it is clear you come > with an agenda. > > The OpenBSD project people do not follow the "bend to Adobe" agenda > that some xpdf people follow. While it's always nice to blame Adobe, please first discuss th