Re: *Slightly OT* DNSBL Opinions.

2008-08-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I highly recommend you sub to spam-l and post your question there also. http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l/spam-l.html FWIW, here's my dnsbl config: reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net,

Re: Log Message Headers

2008-08-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* James Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Apologies if this has been asked before. I would like to log the message headers of email passing through postfix so I can review them. What is the recommended way to do this and will it have an effect on performance? our mail server does not

Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Santiago Romero
Hi. I tried to upgrade from a perfectly running postfix system (2.5.1 + SASL1) to 2.5.4, and got an strange error. I compiled 2.5.1 (tar.gz from postfix's website) 3 months ago with: make makefiles CCARGS=-DUSE_SASL_AUTH -lsasl make make install (answered the install questions and installed

Re: Postfix accepts mails from valid user without password

2008-08-20 Thread R Pradeepa
I have configured the smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_sender_login_mismatch,reject_authenticated_sender_login_mismatch,reject_unauthenticated_sender_login_mismatch Still without authentication it is able to accept mailswhat is wrong in my configuration i have provided the result of

Re: Postfix local privilege escalation via hardlinked symlinks

2008-08-20 Thread Matthias Andree
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Wietse Venema wrote: Matthias Andree: If Postfix (or qmail[1], or whatever application) claims to support a particular operating system (Linux, Solaris - rather than POSIX), then it has to make proper assumptions to work in that possibly different environment that

Re: Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Sandy Drobic
Santiago Romero wrote: Hi. I tried to upgrade from a perfectly running postfix system (2.5.1 + SASL1) to 2.5.4, and got an strange error. I compiled 2.5.1 (tar.gz from postfix's website) 3 months ago with: make makefiles CCARGS=-DUSE_SASL_AUTH -lsasl make make install (answered the install

Re: Postfix accepts mails from valid user without password

2008-08-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* mouss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: R Pradeepa wrote: I have configured the smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_sender_login_mismatch,reject_authenticated_sender_login_mismatch,reject_unauthenticated_sender_login_mismatch you only need one. The most restrictive is reject_sender_login_mismatch (it

RE: Postfix (virtual) and Mailman, Invalid user specified.

2008-08-20 Thread Num ber
I'm trying to make that working with lists.soez.be Now i have this : $mydestination = , lists.$mydomain In mailman i have set lists.soez.be instead soez.be I have restart postfix and now i have this error : Aug 20 11:13:20 soez postfix/pipe[3296]: 311ECAE7A0: to=, relay=maildrop,

Re: Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Santiago Romero
CCARGS='-DUSE_SASL_AUTH \ -DUSE_CYRUS_SASL' When Dovecot authentication was introduced the arguments were changed. Now you have to use -DUSE_CYRUS_SASL explicitely in order to compile support for Cyrus sasl in. It does not compile this way: (...) gcc -Wmissing-prototypes -Wformat

Re: Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Santiago Romero
At the moment I am scratching my head. Something is apparently different in the sasl implementation. I assume that you compile both versions in the same environment? Yes. Same machine: truth:~/sources/postfix# ls -l total 6188 drwxr-xr-x 16 postfix postfix 4096 ago 20 10:03

Re: Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Santiago Romero
Santiago Romero wrote: I compile 2.5.1 with: make makefiles CCARGS=-DUSE_SASL_AUTH -lsasl make And SASL works. The same make sentences with 2.5.4 compiles and after the make upgrade it gives the sasl error in the logs. And compiled postfconf says: truth:~/sources/postfix/postfix-2.5.4#

Re: Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Sandy Drobic
Santiago Romero wrote: Santiago Romero wrote: I compile 2.5.1 with: make makefiles CCARGS=-DUSE_SASL_AUTH -lsasl make And SASL works. The same make sentences with 2.5.4 compiles and after the make upgrade it gives the sasl error in the logs. And compiled postfconf says:

After upgrading from 2.4.6 to 2.5.3..

2008-08-20 Thread Bjørn T Johansen
I get the following in my log...: Aug 20 12:36:44 web postfix/smtpd[2774]: connect from pat.havleik.no[10.1.1.4] Aug 20 12:36:44 web postfix/smtpd[2774]: 88AC71FA25F: client=pat.havleik.no[10.1.1.4] Aug 20 12:36:44 web postfix/cleanup[2789]: 88AC71FA25F: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aug 20

Re: Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Santiago Romero
Are you absolutely sure that you need SASL1 and not SASL2? Please check what versions of sasl.h are installed on your system. It could be that an incompatible version is used during compilation. Yes, I need it. I don't have available SASL2 and when I tried to download and compile sasl2 in

Re: After upgrading from 2.4.6 to 2.5.3..

2008-08-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Bj?rn T Johansen: Aug 20 12:36:44 web postfix/pipe[2802]: 88AC71FA25F: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=dovecot, delay=0.09, delays=0.07/0/0/0.02, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail forwarding loop for [EMAIL PROTECTED]) You are sending mail with Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] into the pipe

Re: restriction class and mysql lookup

2008-08-20 Thread Zhang Huangbin
Thanks mouss. :) Use hash file as replacement now.

Re: How Can I Tell How Postfix Was Installed?

2008-08-20 Thread Blake Carver
Thanks Wietse, On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Wietse Venema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can verify if the installed software matches the RPM package. # rpm -qa 'postfix*' rpm -qa 'postfix*' postfix-2.3.3-2.el5.centos.mysql_pgsql postfix-pflogsumm-2.3.3-2 # rpm --verify name-of-package...

Re: Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Santiago Romero: Santiago Romero wrote: Solved! I noticed that the undefined symbols were correctly defined in libsasl1, so I thought that the problem was the library not being linked in. So: I changed: make makefiles CCARGS=-DUSE_SASL_AUTH -DUSE_CYRUS_SASL -lsasl make That is

[OFF] Postfix and TMDA

2008-08-20 Thread Márcio Luciano Donada
Hi People, I am new in the list and would like to share an idea (I know this is way off) I have a serious problem and has researched in several places and found no answer. The problem is the following, I move an e-mail to test for the user and sends the same e-mail from tmda asking for

Re: Postfix (virtual) and Mailman, Invalid user specified.

2008-08-20 Thread Brian Evans - Postfix List
Num ber wrote: I'm trying to make that working with lists.soez.be Now i have this : $mydestination = , lists.$mydomain In mailman i have set lists.soez.be instead soez.be I have restart postfix and now i have this error : Aug 20 11:13:20 soez postfix/pipe[3296]: 311ECAE7A0: to=,

Re: Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Santiago Romero
make makefiles CCARGS=-DUSE_SASL_AUTH -DUSE_CYRUS_SASL -lsasl make That is not the correct syntax. See the INSTALL file. What's wrong? The -lsasl statement? In the INSTALL file I see you use single quotation marks instead of double. Besides of that, what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.

Re: Upgrading from 2.5.1 to 2.5.4 (sasl error????).

2008-08-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Santiago Romero: make makefiles CCARGS=-DUSE_SASL_AUTH -DUSE_CYRUS_SASL -lsasl make That is not the correct syntax. See the INSTALL file. What's wrong? The -lsasl statement? See the INSTALL file. Also on-line as http://www.postfix.org/INSTALL.html See also the

Re: *Slightly OT* DNSBL Opinions.

2008-08-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Thanks for the pruning tips Ralf. I figured some of those were dead, just hadn't bothered to do any verification recently. Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I highly recommend you sub to spam-l and post your question there also.

Re: *Slightly OT* DNSBL Opinions.

2008-08-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for the pruning tips Ralf. I figured some of those were dead, just hadn't bothered to do any verification recently. There COULD be something in the logs. It can be dangerous to leave those old entries in, since the DNS servers could return 127.0.0.1

RE: How Can I Tell How Postfix Was Installed?

2008-08-20 Thread Brian Collins
So a few other details I've grabbed didn't provide yesterday- These numbers don't seem to add up. My big question is how do I get this system upgraded without breaking it? postconf -d | grep mail_version mail_version = 2.4.5 and also rpm -qa | grep postfix

error message for empty subject

2008-08-20 Thread James
I added a header check to reject empty subjects. The error from the server for an empty subject is: Server replied: 550 5.7.1 message content rejected Can I change it to say empty subject rejected?

postfix-policyd-spf

2008-08-20 Thread LuKreme
I installed postfix-policyd-spf (postfix-policyd-spf-1.0.1_2 via portinstall) and added the following to master.cf and main.cf: main.cf Added check_policy_service unix:private/policy (this is immediately after reject_unauth_destination) master.cf Added policy unix - n n

Re: error message for empty subject

2008-08-20 Thread Wietse Venema
James: I added a header check to reject empty subjects. The error from the server for an empty subject is: Server replied: 550 5.7.1 message content rejected Can I change it to say empty subject rejected? Yes. The REJECT action allows you to specify text. Wietse

Re: postfix-policyd-spf

2008-08-20 Thread mouss
LuKreme wrote: I installed postfix-policyd-spf (postfix-policyd-spf-1.0.1_2 via portinstall) and added the following to master.cf and main.cf: main.cf Added check_policy_service unix:private/policy (this is immediately after reject_unauth_destination) master.cf Added policy unix -

Re: postfix-policyd-spf

2008-08-20 Thread Noel Jones
LuKreme wrote: I installed postfix-policyd-spf (postfix-policyd-spf-1.0.1_2 via portinstall) and added the following to master.cf and main.cf: main.cf Added check_policy_service unix:private/policy (this is immediately after reject_unauth_destination) master.cf Added policy unix -

Re: error message for empty subject

2008-08-20 Thread mouss
James wrote: I added a header check to reject empty subjects. normal people do send mail without a subject, and I didn't see much spam without a subject. so I don't think this is an effective anti-spam measure. if you really hate empty subjects, you may want to do the check in

Re: error message for empty subject

2008-08-20 Thread James
On Wed, August 20, 2008 11:41 am, Wietse Venema wrote: James: I added a header check to reject empty subjects. The error from the server for an empty subject is: Server replied: 550 5.7.1 message content rejected Can I change it to say empty subject rejected? Yes. The REJECT action

Why is this hostname failing?

2008-08-20 Thread John Baker
Hi, I user reported mail not getting to him from somebody and I found this in the log: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from bmmail.cwf.org[216.54.2.34]: 504 doorway3: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=SMTP helo=doorway3

Re: Why is this hostname failing?

2008-08-20 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* John Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I user reported mail not getting to him from somebody and I found this in the log: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from bmmail.cwf.org[216.54.2.34]: 504 doorway3: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL

Re: Why is this hostname failing?

2008-08-20 Thread Charles Marcus
On 8/20/2008, John Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: bmmail.cwf.org returns a valid result from a dns check. What am I missing here? This: helo=doorway3 helo hostnames should be FQDN's... -- Best regards, Charles

Re: Why is this hostname failing?

2008-08-20 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, John Baker wrote: Hi, I user reported mail not getting to him from somebody and I found this in the log: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from bmmail.cwf.org[216.54.2.34]: 504 doorway3: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL

Re: Why is this hostname failing?

2008-08-20 Thread Graham Leggett
John Baker wrote: I user reported mail not getting to him from somebody and I found this in the log: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from bmmail.cwf.org[216.54.2.34]: 504 doorway3: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=SMTP

Re: postfix-policyd-spf

2008-08-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 11:30, LuKreme wrote: I installed postfix-policyd-spf (postfix-policyd-spf-1.0.1_2 via portinstall) and added the following to master.cf and main.cf: main.cf Added check_policy_service unix:private/policy (this is immediately after reject_unauth_destination)

Re: After upgrading from 2.4.6 to 2.5.3..

2008-08-20 Thread Bjørn T Johansen
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:08:32 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wietse Venema) wrote: Bj?rn T Johansen: Aug 20 12:36:44 web postfix/pipe[2802]: 88AC71FA25F: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=dovecot, delay=0.09, delays=0.07/0/0/0.02, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail forwarding loop for [EMAIL

Re: After upgrading from 2.4.6 to 2.5.3..

2008-08-20 Thread Sandy Drobic
Bjørn T Johansen wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:08:32 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wietse Venema) wrote: Bj?rn T Johansen: Aug 20 12:36:44 web postfix/pipe[2802]: 88AC71FA25F: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=dovecot, delay=0.09, delays=0.07/0/0/0.02, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail forwarding

Re: After upgrading from 2.4.6 to 2.5.3..

2008-08-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Bj?rn T Johansen: On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:08:32 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wietse Venema) wrote: Bj?rn T Johansen: Aug 20 12:36:44 web postfix/pipe[2802]: 88AC71FA25F: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=dovecot, delay=0.09, delays=0.07/0/0/0.02, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail

RE: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh
Hello, Thanks for your response. According to http://www.postfix.org/access.5.html the filter would override my content_filter setting in main.cf, which I am currently using with amavisd-new: FILTER transport:destination After the message is queued, send the entire mes-

Re: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Noel Jones
Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh wrote: Hello, Thanks for your response. According to http://www.postfix.org/access.5.html the filter would override my content_filter setting in main.cf, which I am currently using with amavisd-new: FILTER transport:destination After the message is

RE: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh
Hello, I am sorry, I don't know what you mean by top post all I did was hit reply in hotmail. I tried adding this in my master.cf but it didn't work. I think the problem is that check_recipient_mx_access is expecting an access table type and not a CIDR table type: check_recipient_mx_access

Re: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh wrote: Hello, I am sorry, I don't know what you mean by top post all I did was hit reply in hotmail. I tried adding this in my master.cf but it didn't work. I think the problem is that check_recipient_mx_access is expecting an access table type and not a CIDR table type:

RE: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh
I am sorry, I don't know what you mean by top post all I did was hit reply in hotmail. I tried adding this in my master.cf but it didn't work. I think the problem is that check_recipient_mx_access is expecting an access table type and not a CIDR table type: Top-posting is considered

Re: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Brian Evans - Postfix List
Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh wrote: Hello, I am sorry, I don't know what you mean by top post all I did was hit reply in hotmail. I tried adding this in my master.cf but it didn't work. I think the problem is that check_recipient_mx_access is expecting an access table type and not a CIDR table

Re: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Noel Jones
Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh wrote: Hello, I am sorry, I don't know what you mean by top post all I did was hit reply in hotmail. I tried adding this in my master.cf but it didn't work. I think the problem is that check_recipient_mx_access is expecting an access table type and not a CIDR table type:

Re: After upgrading from 2.4.6 to 2.5.3..

2008-08-20 Thread Bjørn T Johansen
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:16:22 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wietse Venema) wrote: Bj?rn T Johansen: On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:08:32 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wietse Venema) wrote: Bj?rn T Johansen: Aug 20 12:36:44 web postfix/pipe[2802]: 88AC71FA25F: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Noel Jones
Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh wrote: An access formatted table does not care which type as long as it returns values that are expected. Any supported table type is valid for access tables. man 5 cidr_table for details as what is expected on the left hand side. access(5) values are expected on the

RE: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh
- You used a space in the command line. Don't do that. OK, I replaced the space with a comma. The above line must not have any spaces in it. Replace the space between ...mx_access and cidr:... with a , comma, just like in the example you were given before. Now it is not

Re: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Noel Jones
Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh wrote: - You used a space in the command line. Don't do that. OK, I replaced the space with a comma. The above line must not have any spaces in it. Replace the space between ...mx_access and cidr:... with a , comma, just like in the example you were given before.

RE: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh
This only affects mail when it enters postfix (or more specifically, when it leaves the content_filter). Mail already in the queue will not be affected. Mail that bypasses the content_filter will not be affected. Why is to= logged above? There must be a recipient address to look

Re: Transport Based on Destination MX record and not Destination Domain?

2008-08-20 Thread Noel Jones
Rodre Ghorashi-Zadeh wrote: This only affects mail when it enters postfix (or more specifically, when it leaves the content_filter). Mail already in the queue will not be affected. Mail that bypasses the content_filter will not be affected. Why is to= logged above? There must be a

address rejected: unverified address: Address verification in progress

2008-08-20 Thread Tait Grove
A handful of my email users are getting an error message from external servers mailing to our servers. This error occurs when you change the letter case in the email address. Example, if you send from Yahoo! to my server using the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] the email will go through, but if you

Small Enhancement for the Policy Server Protocol

2008-08-20 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
I'd like to propose a small enhancement for the Policy Server protocol. I'll code up a first cut of it, if nobody else is willing. Basically, I think it would be very useful if the protcol included a line like: trusted_client=[yes/no] where the value would be set to yes if and only if

Re: address rejected: unverified address: Address verification in progress

2008-08-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Tait Grove: A handful of my email users are getting an error message from external servers mailing to our servers. This error occurs when you change the letter case in the email address. Example, if you send from Yahoo! to my server using the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] the email will go

Re: Small Enhancement for the Policy Server Protocol

2008-08-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Ronald F. Guilmette: I'd like to propose a small enhancement for the Policy Server protocol. I'll code up a first cut of it, if nobody else is willing. Basically, I think it would be very useful if the protcol included a line like: trusted_client=[yes/no] where the value would

Re: Small Enhancement for the Policy Server Protocol

2008-08-20 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wietse Venema) wrote: Ronald F. Guilmette: I'd like to propose a small enhancement for the Policy Server protocol. I'll code up a first cut of it, if nobody else is willing. Basically, I think it would be very useful if the protcol

Re: Small Enhancement for the Policy Server Protocol

2008-08-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Ronald F. Guilmette: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wietse Venema) wrote: Ronald F. Guilmette: I'd like to propose a small enhancement for the Policy Server protocol. I'll code up a first cut of it, if nobody else is willing. Basically, I think it would be

Re: Postfix and Hylafax faxmail

2008-08-20 Thread Michael
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:12:02 Dave wrote: Hi, Do you have any notes on this setup? I'd like to get pointed on the right path. Thanks. Dave. http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#fax For reference here are my files: master.cf fax unix - n n - 1 pipe

Postfix TLS and M$ Outlook Express

2008-08-20 Thread Michael
Has anyone else here found incompatibilities between these two? My TLS implementation works fine sending from KDE Kmail, but I can't use Outlook Express' secure option.

RE: address rejected: unverified address: Address verification in progress

2008-08-20 Thread Tait Grove
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-postfix- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wietse Venema Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:32 PM To: Tait Grove Cc: 'Postfix users' Subject: Re: address rejected: unverified address: Address verification in progress Tait

Re: postfix-policyd-spf

2008-08-20 Thread LuKreme
On 20-Aug-2008, at 09:42, mouss wrote: LuKreme wrote: I installed postfix-policyd-spf (postfix-policyd-spf-1.0.1_2 via portinstall) and added the following to master.cf and main.cf: main.cf Added check_policy_service unix:private/policy (this is immediately after reject_unauth_destination)

Re: address rejected: unverified address: Address verification in progress

2008-08-20 Thread Adam
you get a bounce back message stating ?address rejected: unverified address: Address verification in progress?. What causes this error in these cases? Looks like you have 'sender address verification' enabled. http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html I'm not sure many

Re: Postfix TLS and M$ Outlook Express

2008-08-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 20:01, Michael wrote: Has anyone else here found incompatibilities between these two? My TLS implementation works fine sending from KDE Kmail, but I can't use Outlook Express' secure option. Depending on the version of OE involved (I believe the current version

Re: Spam from hotmail servers - how to kill?

2008-08-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
In this scenario you're better off trying to help others clean up their networks than to try to block or filter based on the content. As you stated, they are the Gorillas of mail and you can't really block them. So, work with them. Believe it or not, these records are published because

Re: Spam from hotmail servers - how to kill?

2008-08-20 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 01:10:32PM +1000, James Robertson wrote: Recently we noticed an increase in junk and discovered that it's coming from Hotmail (and to a lesser extent Yahoo). X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.144 required=5.31 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, ... X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.728