Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-11-01 Thread Покотиленко Костик
For now almost a week without sorbs and wothout spam. Remebered that the metter I was installed sorbs list was many forged freemail spams. That time I've done client/hello/sender match check for a list of free mail services (discussed on this list). And I was also advised to add sorbs, b/c all

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-29 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 07:52 -0400, John Peach wrote: Right, so, how is THAT a false positive, it is a justifiable listing if they became part of the problem. I never said it was a false positive. Just that it's a waste of time trying to get delisted; we gave up with that years ago.

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-29 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 09:40 -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: . This illustrates what you get when blocking all mail from an ISP just because some customer sent some email that hit some spamtrap. We do it here, I've done it for 5 years or so, little problems at all given the

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Покотиленко Костик
Hehe, noticed I've got just 2 replies on my thread from Noel Butler, rest is missing: . Oct 28 11:30:50 darkstar postfix/smtpd[17528]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from camomile.cloud9.net[168.100.1.3]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [168.1 00.1.3] blocked using spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net;

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 12:37 +0300, Покотиленко Костик wrote: Hehe, noticed I've got just 2 replies on my thread from Noel Butler, rest is missing: LOL, hrmm Q, is the postfix lists the only mail coming from camomile.cloud9.net? or do these servers host other stuff as well . Oct

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Покотиленко Костик
Покотиленко Костик put forth on 10/27/2010 7:20 AM: Can somebody comment on this please. В Вто, 26/10/2010 в 18:20 +0300, Покотиленко Костик пишет: I'm now trying to move all RBL and RHSBL checks to policyd-weight. In policyd-weight I set $ADD_X_HEADER = 1 and very high score so it

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Покотиленко Костик
В Чтв, 28/10/2010 в 19:59 +1000, Noel Butler пишет: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 12:37 +0300, Покотиленко Костик wrote: Hehe, noticed I've got just 2 replies on my thread from Noel Butler, rest is missing: LOL, hrmm Q, is the postfix lists the only mail coming from camomile.cloud9.net? or do

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Покотиленко Костик
On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 14:11 +0300, Покотиленко Костик wrote: sorbs.net is very agressive, many ISPs get blocked for several years and are not willing to delist b/c sorbs doesn't offer free delist for them. That is complete FUD, yes, I know what their website says, but knowing the

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Покотиленко Костик
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 22:15 -0400, John Peach wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:17:00 +1000 Noel Butler noel.butler at ausics.net wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 14:11 +0300, Покотиленко Костик wrote: sorbs.net is very agressive, many ISPs get blocked for several years and are not

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 14:13 +0300, Покотиленко Костик wrote: I have an automated script that runs over all of our mail servers log files daily searching for IP's that send to known spamtrap addresses and also on my private server (this domain), addresses that never existed, and can't

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread John Peach
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:28:42 +1000 Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 22:15 -0400, John Peach wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:17:00 +1000 Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 14:11 +0300, Покотиленко Костик wrote:

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 07:52:27 -0400 John Peach post...@johnpeach.com articulated: I never said it was a false positive. Just that it's a waste of time trying to get delisted; we gave up with that years ago. If you mean years agoliterally, then I might suggest that you revisit it. The Times They

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Noel Butler: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 12:37 +0300, ??? ?? wrote: Hehe, noticed I've got just 2 replies on my thread from Noel Butler, rest is missing: LOL, hrmm Q, is the postfix lists the only mail coming from camomile.cloud9.net? or do these servers host other stuff as well

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 02:11:59PM +0300, ??? ?? wrote: I have the following postfix configuration: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = snip reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, In all this thread, no one that I have seen has yet mentioned that DSBL has been defunct since 2008, over

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread mouss
Le 26/10/2010 13:11, Покотиленко Костик a écrit : [snip] sorbs.net is very agressive, many ISPs get blocked for several years and are not willing to delist b/c sorbs doesn't offer free delist for them. - hmmm. if you refer to the delisting fee, this has changed. there's no fee anymore. - if

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Покотиленко Костик put forth on 10/28/2010 5:31 AM: a. mail was send directly from company's public ip which is DSL (shouldn't send direct) b. advertising company's mail server doesn't have revers DNS c. doesn't send proper hello d. advertising company's ip black listed by sorbs Ahh, I

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-27 Thread Покотиленко Костик
Can somebody comment on this please. В Вто, 26/10/2010 в 18:20 +0300, Покотиленко Костик пишет: I'm now trying to move all RBL and RHSBL checks to policyd-weight. In policyd-weight I set $ADD_X_HEADER = 1 and very high score so it never match. Then I plan to parse X-policyd-weight header

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Покотиленко Костик put forth on 10/27/2010 7:20 AM: Can somebody comment on this please. В Вто, 26/10/2010 в 18:20 +0300, Покотиленко Костик пишет: I'm now trying to move all RBL and RHSBL checks to policyd-weight. In policyd-weight I set $ADD_X_HEADER = 1 and very high score so it never

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 14:11 +0300, Покотиленко Костик wrote: sorbs.net is very agressive, many ISPs get blocked for several years and are not willing to delist b/c sorbs doesn't offer free delist for them. That is complete FUD, yes, I know what their website says, but knowing the people

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-27 Thread John Peach
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:17:00 +1000 Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 14:11 +0300, Покотиленко Костик wrote: sorbs.net is very agressive, many ISPs get blocked for several years and are not willing to delist b/c sorbs doesn't offer free delist for them.

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-27 Thread Al Zick
Hi, sorbs.net is very agressive, many ISPs get blocked for several years and are not willing to delist b/c sorbs doesn't offer free delist for them. So there is problem with false-positives. There are not much of them, but all cases needs additional investigation. I removed several

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 22:15 -0400, John Peach wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:17:00 +1000 Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 14:11 +0300, Покотиленко Костик wrote: sorbs.net is very agressive, many ISPs get blocked for several years and are not

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 21:48 -0500, Al Zick wrote: internal mail which is only imap would be require [fileinto]; if header :contains X-Spam-Status [Yes,] { fileinto Junk; stop; } I have found 2 packages: dovecot-sieve libsieve Could you tell me which one you are

Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-26 Thread Покотиленко Костик
Hi, I have the following postfix configuration: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unknown_client_hostname, reject_unknown_hostname, reject_non_fqdn_hostname, reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname, reject_invalid_helo_hostname,

Re: Posfix: deliver to spam folder analog of reject_rbl_client

2010-10-26 Thread Покотиленко Костик
I'm now trying to move all RBL and RHSBL checks to policyd-weight. In policyd-weight I set $ADD_X_HEADER = 1 and very high score so it never match. Then I plan to parse X-policyd-weight header with sieve script on cyrus to move spam to separate imap folder. Header looks like this: