Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 09:13:19PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: > Viktor Dukhovni: > > Postfix does not yet support Apple's BURL SMTP extension. With > > Apple as the only MUA that supports BURL, it probably does not make > > sense for Postfix to support BURL. > > Last time I asked (late 2013) Ap

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread Wietse Venema
Viktor Dukhovni: > Postfix does not yet support Apple's BURL SMTP extension. With > Apple as the only MUA that supports BURL, it probably does not make > sense for Postfix to support BURL. Last time I asked (late 2013) Apple currently does not support BURL. Wietse

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 02:44:10AM +0200, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: > > The way I had assumed it earlier was the client authenticates via > > 993 (dovecot IMAP in our case), crafts an email to another user > > and this email is delivered instantly via lmtp (in our case, dovecot > > LDA), but now I s

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 31.03.2014 02:35, schrieb Shawn Zaidermann: > The way I had assumed it earlier was the client authenticates via 993 > (dovecot IMAP in our case), crafts an email > to another user and this email is delivered instantly via lmtp (in our case, > dovecot LDA), but now I see that in > reality, th

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread Shawn Zaidermann
I understand. Is there any other configuration > > >>> I would need to do on the server side? > > >> > > >> for the case above - no, mail from one gmail user to another > > >> gamil user is not rou

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread cybermass
bove - no, mail from one gmail user to another > >> gamil user is not routed trough hotmail and that behavior is > >> logical and as expected > > > -- > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 31.03.2014 02:07, schrieb cybermass: > 587 is dedicated for submission but is it any different if I have > configured smtps to be port 8809 and just have the clients use that port > with STARTTLS instead of 587? technically you can use whatever port but why not use standars and make users life

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread cybermass
-- > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://postfix.1071664.n5.nabble.com/Unclear-of-smtp-protocol-in-a-restricted-domain-tp66494p66502.html > To unsubscribe from Unc

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread cybermass
accounts on more than one server > (e.g., gmail and hotmail and your server) then they may very well > try to submit mail via their hotmail account, even if they intend > to send mail to someone on your mail server. > > Wietse > > > ---------- &

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 31.03.2014 01:54, schrieb cybermass: > Interesting, that is something I never even thought of why should a server hosting example.com relay a to him submitted message from a...@example.com to b...@example.com trough a foreign server? what should that foreign server do with that message other

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread cybermass
your mail server. > > Wietse > > > ---------- > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://postfix.1071664.n5.nabble.com/Unclear-of-smtp-protocol-in-a-restricted-domain-tp66494p66500.html >

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread Wietse Venema
cybermass: > Ok the user's emails should not go through any other servers out on the > internet to reach mine. Meaning their emails are sent directly within the > server. so if j...@restricted.com sends to j...@restricted.com, nobody else > should be able to read that email, no ISP, or any system.

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread cybermass
about SMTP or Postfix, > talk about what practical properties you want for the email in question > > -- > Viktor. > > > ------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://postfix.10

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 04:13:00PM -0700, cybermass wrote: > How can I configure it so that the user's email never bounce through any > other hop but go directly through the server? By arranging for mail to the domain in question to be delivered locally: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGUR

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread cybermass
ion need not be the final store > for the mailboxes of that domain, and may deliver the mail to the > final mail-store via LMTP (remote non-SMTP hop) or via SMTP. > > -- > Viktor. > > > -- > If you reply to this email, your mes

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 03:35:13PM -0700, cybermass wrote: > If there is a postfix server that is configured to only accept and send > email to users in the same domain, say for example > j...@restricted.com can only send to another_u...@restricted.com, does this > mean that the client's email nev

Re: Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 31.03.2014 00:35, schrieb cybermass: > Hi. I am a bit unclear about how email works in a closed domain from roaming > clients (SASL auth clients). > > If there is a postfix server that is configured to only accept and send > email to users in the same domain, say for example > j...@restricted.

Unclear of smtp protocol in a restricted domain

2014-03-30 Thread cybermass
postfix server? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://postfix.1071664.n5.nabble.com/Unclear-of-smtp-protocol-in-a-restricted-domain-tp66494.html Sent from the Postfix Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.