Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
) - The Gmail webmail says: One o more mail address in To: box is not recognized (THIS IS A CLIENT RESPONSE) So, I think the IDN domain name support is not complete nowadays, neither by mail servers nor by mail clients. So it's not convenient the IDN mail implementation in this bad situation. What do

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Brian Evans - Postfix List
(THIS IS A CLIENT RESPONSE) So, I think the IDN domain name support is not complete nowadays, neither by mail servers nor by mail clients. So it's not convenient the IDN mail implementation in this bad situation. What do you think about this matter ??? Really thanks 2010/5/26 Wietse Venema

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
/show_bug.cgi?id=127399 - The Gmail webmail says: One o more mail address in To: box is not recognized (THIS IS A CLIENT RESPONSE) So, I think the IDN domain name support is not complete nowadays, neither by mail servers nor by mail clients. So it's not convenient the IDN mail implementation

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Per Jessen
syntax (THIS IS A SERVER RESPONSE) - The Gmail webmail says: One o more mail address in To: box is not recognized (THIS IS A CLIENT RESPONSE) So, I think the IDN domain name support is not complete nowadays, neither by mail servers nor by mail clients. So it's not convenient the IDN mail

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:01:41PM -0300, Alejandro Cabrera Obed wrote: OK, this is in case of my Thunderbird Debian lenn package, but what about the Gmail syntax error warning ??? In Hotmail is the same, it tells me that the recipient address just must have 1-9, a-z and @ charactersin

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: So, I think the IDN domain name support is not complete nowadays, neither by mail servers nor by mail clients. So it's not convenient the IDN mail implementation in this bad situation. What do you think about this matter ??? I think you're wrong - my thunderbird and my

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Pat
Wietse, thanks...but in Postfix I have to work with the ?o?o.com.ar domain name or with the xn--oo-yjab.gov.ar punycode domain name ??? The MAIL CLIENT must tranform non-ASCII domain names before sending MAIL FROM or RCPT TO commands. ICANN did not really consider the security and

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread LuKreme
On 27-May-2010, at 13:36, Pat wrote: we are not interested in experimental code and do not want to use a version of bind or postfix that cannot be compiled to refuse IDNs. If you refuse properly delegated IDNs then you are broken, pure and simple. This is WHY punycode exists, as it

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-27 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 03:36:19PM -0400, Pat wrote: ICANN did not really consider the security and portability of IDNs before permitting them. The reasons for this are many, and speak poorly to ICANN's management structure. It is important to remember that ICANN's action does not mean that

IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
Dear all, I live in Argentina and now we can use the Ñ letter in our domain names. I have a mail system conformed with Debian Lenny / Postfix 2.5.5-1.1. My question is this: Does Postfix 2.5.5-1.1 support IDN domain names in case I create a @ñoño.com.ar domain ??? Or is it a problem inherent

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 03:11:41PM -0300, Alejandro Cabrera Obed wrote: Dear all, I live in Argentina and now we can use the ?? letter in our domain names. I have a mail system conformed with Debian Lenny / Postfix 2.5.5-1.1. My question is this: Does Postfix 2.5.5-1.1 support IDN domain

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
Thanks Viktor, sorry but I don't understand this: you say Postfix works with ASCII on-the-wire, so if in my Postfix I create a virtual domain called ñandu.gov.ar you tell me that Postfix will automatically encoded it to Punycode and resulting the domain: xn--andu-fqa.gov.ar So I can

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Wietse Venema
Alejandro Cabrera Obed: Dear all, I live in Argentina and now we can use the ? letter in our domain names. I have a mail system conformed with Debian Lenny / Postfix 2.5.5-1.1. My question is this: Does Postfix 2.5.5-1.1 support IDN domain names in case I create a @?o?o.com.ar domain ???

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Alejandro Cabrera Obed
Wietse, thanks...but in Postfix I have to work with the ñoño.com.ar domain name or with the xn--oo-yjab.gov.ar punycode domain name ??? For example, in my mail server I define my virtual domains in /etc/postfix/vmaildomains. How di I have to define it: ñoño.com.ar required or

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 05:53:17PM -0300, Alejandro Cabrera Obed wrote: Wietse, thanks...but in Postfix I have to work with the ??o??o.com.ar domain name or with the xn--oo-yjab.gov.ar punycode domain name ??? The latter. For example, in my mail server I define my virtual domains in

Re: IDN domain name support

2010-05-26 Thread Wietse Venema
Alejandro Cabrera Obed: Wietse, thanks...but in Postfix I have to work with the ?o?o.com.ar domain name or with the xn--oo-yjab.gov.ar punycode domain name ??? Read carefully. The MAIL CLIENT must tranform non-ASCII domain names before sending MAIL FROM or RCPT TO commands. Wietse